Why Women Talking Should NOT Have Won the Oscar

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Sarah Polley's "Women Talking" is the front runner for the Oscar of Best Adapted Screenplay and, even though its plot and characters are of great intelligence, it should not win. The reason concerns a crass mistake of adaptation, a clear example of misreading that made the movie's dialogue make no sense.
The second favorite is "All Quiet on the Western Front" (Edward Berger & Lesley Paterson and Ian Stokell). Should this adaptation of the classic Erich Maria Remarque novel win?
And what about "Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery" (Rian Johnson)? And Kazuo Ishiguro's adaptation of Akira Kurosawa's "Ikiru", "Living", starring Bill Nighy? Or maybe the Oscar should go to - bear with me - "Top Gun: Maverick" (Ehren Kruger and Eric Warren Singer and Christopher McQuarrie, story by Peter Craig and Justin Marks)?
00:00 Women Talking
04:27 All Quiet on the Western Front
07:09 Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery
08:21 Top Gun: Maverick
10:43 Living
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@flanderleisen Год назад

I can't believe there's such an obvious reason the movie's dialogue sounded wrong and nobody noticed it until now! Well done!

@Ben-pd2bx 9 месяцев назад

I think it's very silly to presume that the director of the film "didn't notice" that her characters spoke a certain way, or that the choice that they do so was unintentional. The movie is literally called "Women Talking". As the video points out, that title is intentionally ironic.

@Selrisitai 9 месяцев назад

@@Ben-pd2bx What's ironic?

@Ben-pd2bx 9 месяцев назад

@@Selrisitai It is ironic that the dialogue centric story "Women Talking" is comprised of a transcript written by a man who paraphrases on their behalf.

@WarCriminalPhlox 6 месяцев назад

@@Ben-pd2bxin the book yes, but in the movie you're a spectator watching the words coming out from the women's mouths directly with no filter showing they are indeed speaking as we are seeing them bc that's how movies work, so there's no irony, it's just a blatant mistake

@deplorabledave1048 6 месяцев назад

The planned sequel "Women NOT Talking" was canceled due to lack of interest in FANTASY and "Bizarre Alternate Universe" type films.

@lorenzodicapo6305 10 месяцев назад

Bill Nighy is one of those actors who deserves a special kind of award for raising the quality of every film he's in

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Oh, we can make a gallery out of that: Bill Nighy, Al Pacino, Rutger Hauer, Willem Dafoe, Daniel Day Lewis, Tilda Swinton, Saoirse Ronan, Steve Buscemi, Sigourney Weaver, Catherine Keener, Julianne Moore, Cate Blanchett, Christopher Walken, Scarlett Johansson, Terence Stamp, Ed Harris, ... each of them have played in sub-par movies but elevated them with their performance at least to some defree. There might be more, probably a lot of women that are so versatile I forgot to remember their names (they also tend to get very different makeup for different roles, whereas many male actors just got their signature look). The starkest contrast between trash movie and stellar performance I have ever seen was Rutger Hauer, though.

@Desmond-Dark 3 месяца назад

@@elevenseven-yq4vu Kathy Bates, Keith David, Chiwetel Ejiofor, and Jeffrey Wright are some awesome ones as well.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 3 месяца назад

@@Desmond-Dark Keith David for sure. The other three I have not seen often enough to make up my mind either way.

@nathanielfishburn9676 11 месяцев назад

Robert McKee's dialogue book touches on this! He refers to it as "attributed dialogue": dialogue that's described but not quoted

@Kira1Lawliet Год назад

The biggest problem I had with Women Talking (well, actually I had a number of problems with it, but in terms of the dialogue one big thing) is that these women, who supposedly grew up in an ultra-conservative religious isolationist colony where they've been brainwashed since birth to think of themselves as lowly servant-maidens to their menfolk, somehow have the requisite developed sense of self and self-respect to not only take issue with the idea of forgiving their attackers (from what I've seen, women who grow up in communities like this will more likely internalize the idea that the attack was somehow their fault and won't seek retribution for it at all), but also to contemplate militant action against the men in their community. This entire aspect of the movie was ridiculous. And yes, I know the movie is SOMEWHAT based on a true story, but I don't feel this movie accurately represents what these women felt or thought. Real women in these circumstances living from birth in this environment would never be this bold or defiant or contemplate any sort of rebellious action. It just doesn't ring true. Not to mention the Andrew character was an insufferable male-feminist self-depreciating archetype and the random trans character was completely thrown in for no good reason. A lot of problems with this screenplay, a LOT of problems, I haven't even touched on all of them. It winning the Oscar was nothing more than a typical Oscars case of virtue signaling.

@HugoSoup57 Год назад

Or maybe it won the Oscar because it had a good screenplay, not because of virtue signaling. How anyone can call this movie’s screenplay bad is simply beyond me. Also, Ben Whishaw’s performance as Andrew was a highlight and this was actually a somewhat accurate representation of women living in an religious isolated community.

@Kira1Lawliet Год назад

@@HugoSoup57 I just told you how I can take issue with the screenplay-it's focused more on depicting these women as active agents because that's how WE as a modern audience want to see them, but that's not likely how they really thought or spoke. There are plenty of ultra-conservative and repressive (but I repeat myself) religious communities in America today, and women/girls who grow up in them are constantly taught not to question, not to argue, and certainly not to fight back. The idea that these women, who were not only raised in such a community but WAY away from any modern developed society in the hills of Bolivia, that they would have the fortitude of character and strength of will to just suddenly all get together and conspire to overthrow the patriarchy is just hollywood fantasy to me. If it DID actually happen that way, I will revise my opinion, but I would need to see hard proof, because if there's anything hollywood likes to do it's to embellish historical fact. I don't think there's ever been a single biopic or historically "true" movie ever made that stuck 100% to what actually was documented as having happened. Now I don't begrudge that in the name of creative license to a certain extent, but when you start just projecting your own sense of how a group of people should behave in a situation because it fits the sentiments you were raised on, then you're engaging in dishonesty. And as for the Andrew character, yeah, I stand by the statement that he is a pathetic caricature of what some people idealize as a male feminist-a meek and timid young man who is quiet and unnecessarily deferential to the opinions of women simply because he, as a non-woman, doesn't possess the "right" to speak on matters pertaining to them. It's a childish and reactionary idea of how feminism should work between men and women, and the film portrays Andrew as the only good male role model in a village of savage man-brutes. The way the movie infantilizes men is not profound or ethically defensible in any way. The screenplay makes these condescending leaps to ascribing the brutish ignorance and rapacious simple-mindedness of the men in this community to all men outside of their society at large-it makes an explicit statement on this fact, and you are simply wrong if you deny that that's what the movie says. And yes, the trans character was added in seemingly to do nothing in the story, and I don't even know how they would exist because I don't know how they would even have access to surgical procedures necessary to fully transition (and even if the transition were only superficial, I refuse to believe that any type of trans person would be allowed to remain in a community that xenophobic and religiously indoctrinated-I call bs all the way on that).

@BiggieTrismegistus 11 месяцев назад

@@HugoSoup57The issue I have is that the dialogue is so obviously taken directly from a *written* form of discussion. It's like they're all reading from a philosophical treatise when it's their turn to talk. No one speaks like that, no matter how well educated.

@therealinformalmusic 11 месяцев назад

I thank you for, inter alia, using “self-depreciating” aptly and justly instead of the usual but nearly always incorrect “self-deprecating”.

@stuart6478 11 месяцев назад

ha ha ha this wall of text is juicy

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Living has Bill Nighy in it, you recommending it, and the beautiful cinematography of the footage you cut into that review - enough to make me wanna watch it.

@jmoountfort5204 11 месяцев назад

This dialogue sounds like it was written by a "favorite daughter." One of those young women upon whom so much social capital is expended that she becomes too big to fail.

@Desmond-Dark 3 месяца назад

Greta Thunberg

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Concerning "All Quiet...", the thing I enjoyed most about it was the clever framing by the uniform cycle. The narrative that followed was well executed from a cinematic point of view, although the ending was not historically accurate in the way the final battle scenes played out; it worked well in getting the mood across, and maybe the movie makers wanted some "showdown" moment and "catharsis" for the sake of what modern audiences are used to. I found Paul's death scene overly melodramatic, almost bordering on the grotesquely comical, because it was so clichéd, and I am thinking Remarque would have had a lump or a bit of vomit in his throat when watching this Richard Wagnerian depiction of stage-like faux heroism. It seemed to me like the movie makers did neither believe in / rely on the strength of their movie so far nor on the empathy and intelligence of their audience, so they felt they had to compensate by falling back on some well-proven emotional con-artistry with a longstanding tradition. Oof! The depiction of the general also went over the top, painting him as a monodimensional Prussian devil right out of a propaganda book meant for children, and they showed this in a manner and tone that broke the otherwise serious approach of the film in a somewhat ridiculous manner. It reminded me of the type of sledgehammer didactics and plump satire used in sub-par German comedies, that keeps an audience from reflecting on their own (gray) morality by painting things in moral black-and-white with a lack of nuance, offering easy target scapegoats instead. What I found lacking in the movie, not absolutely, but in terms of proportion (there was one strong but short scene on it in the entire film), was the reflection on how that war experience would change the surviving young men and their relationships to the people behind the front lines, who had literally no idea what artillery-heavy trench warfare was like. The book did a much better job in that respect. The first 2/3 of the film are still very strong, especially in the way they depict life and death in the trenches, the production value is enormous in that. The acting is also very effective.

@marieparker3822 10 месяцев назад

It's just not how people talk.

@marcel4002 11 месяцев назад

Good channel, and thanks for the new word "Trash stache." I plan on using it immediately...

@graphosxp 11 месяцев назад

I rather have several similar characters in one film then the crazy mix of cliche "oddballs" that made up the cast of Prometheus (2012)!

@BatAmerica 3 месяца назад

Great video. I respectfully disagree with Top Gun Maverick. While it may seem strange, it is typical to see soldiers mourning friends due to their connection and, in this case, how they died. Survivor's guilt is already painful, so when you pair that with frequent interaction with Goose's wife and son, it makes those scars more apparent. Additionally, the scene where he nearly cries comes after hearing Rooster playing Goose's song; hence the flashbacks, it makes sense why he wouldn't be over the pain.

@robotone2812 10 месяцев назад

Which of those shown is favorite screenplay? Love Actually.

@N_Loco_Parenthesis 8 месяцев назад

fabulous insight.

@DavidSMurga 10 месяцев назад

I love you - also - I prefered the original title for this video

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

When writing/reading was not as common as today, communication was slower. It meant people had time to speak slower, time to weigh their words, and time to train their thinking and memory and speaking simultaneously. I am pretty sure that a _literarily_ "uneducated" (analphabetic) person might still have _spoken_ a better grammar back then; and that, in a time when you could not impress people through the printing press or over the internet by writing in a complex or convoluted manner that made them feel stupid for needing time to decipher what the hell you meant, an illiterate person might have had way better skills at holding a good speech than nowadays average journalist with a college degree. Because in an oral culture, being able to talk well was an essential skill not only to gain status by but also to convince or at least manipulate people into doing what you needed them to do, and good rhetoric was more of a survival skill than nowadays where you can just buy stuff and services and machines to do your work on every corner or through the net, and where there is police to go to when you are being threatened. You had to be able to talk yourself out of a situation or into a better position. Oratory skills were being honed, because they had to.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

The main bulk of your arguments and the bassline of your critique still hold value, don't get me wrong!

@MagnumBullets47 6 месяцев назад

You're pretty much forcing to justify these iliterate "hillbilly" women talking like Shakespearean characters with anachronic thinking.

@wyssmaster 3 месяца назад

That may be true in the worlds of academia, politics, law etc, but likely not in rural farming communities, especially ones that are virtually isolated from the rest of the world. The need to speak in a complex manner on various subjects is unnecessary when the bulk of your life is farmwork and housework, especially when you aren't engaging in outside markets. It's possible that their diction and syntax could have its roots in sermons they've heard etc, but I highly doubt they would be engaging in feminist critiques of their situation and culture when literally no educated person in that culture would have been educated in feminism and certainly wouldn't have educated the women in feminism; it's rather difficult to maintain control over people when you teach them about how their treatment is actually harmful subjugation against which they should rally.

@irenemax3574 10 месяцев назад

Auto-caption says, “this is a turkey drummer of ideas…” 😅

@angledcoathanger 8 месяцев назад

Really loved Living, even though it jumped the shark a bit at the end with all the reverb on the singing. It made a genuinely convincing case for humbly trying to do your small part in improving something instead of trying for the most hedonistic pleasure possible. Made me genuinely not want to be a fuckwit, for a few months anyway.

@bluesrocker91 Год назад

Top Gun: Maverick doesn't stand a chance... It was a box office smash that was almost universally loved by audiences. The Hollywood establishment doesn't like that sort of thing.

@ianlarsen 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, they hate the films that keep their industry afloat. That's why Tom Cruise can barely get arrested in that town.

@scrivener68 11 месяцев назад

I would posit that the characters speak the way they do because they've been raised on Jacobean Biblical rhetoric.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Sounds reasonable.

@lcdubs7847 9 месяцев назад

The only one I've seen is Top Gun, but I would love to see Living.

@YodasPapa 9 месяцев назад

I think I've read that the mennonite women the book is based on actually do speak kinda like that. unfortunately I can't find the source for this but I do remember thinking about it after I read the book and that's when I found out. I don't think we should assume that illiterate people can't speak in full, complex sentences.

@GorgieClarissa 3 месяца назад

You don't have to be literate to speak literate. They are also Mennonite Amish. Do you know what Mennonite Amish do? Listen and talk about the Bible. They may not be school educated, but they have ears and can listen to the preacher preaching from the Bible. This is a very small isolated community. So no, it doesn't surprise me... they are talk alike!

@immarart 6 месяцев назад

I don’t agree with your opinion about maverick not being over the death of goose being used as emotional manipulation. You never get over the loss of someone close to you. Especially if you blame yourself for it. It’s a real emotion that lasts a lifetime. Everything else is spot on.

@SS-ec2tu 5 месяцев назад

One of my Navy pilot buddies watched Maverick at least 10 times.

@456zounds 2 месяца назад

WTH does this have to do with the film under discussion--"Women Talking?"

@gametime2473 4 месяца назад

This movie causes me physical pain.

@SS-ec2tu 5 месяцев назад

I watched Living based on your recommendation and it should have won.

@LittlePhizDorrit 9 месяцев назад

The diction problem is RAMPANT in films these days. Since writers see all the characters as some kind of avatar of their own ideals, they all talk like people in Southern California in the 21st century. Pick your film genre, location, time, etc. They ALL talk like people who just graduated from UCLA.

@dino_matt 5 месяцев назад

Every movie featured here has a completely different style of dialogue though... Which movies are you referencing?

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

It’s so presumptuous and egotistical to assume that these women are inarticulate and dumb because they are illiterate.

@arzabael 8 месяцев назад

Good lord you are hilarious man

@dennismason3740 6 месяцев назад

If you replace the women with men you can call it Declaration of Independence, Part 2.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

I have watched "Knives Out!" and enjoyed it for what it's worth; but going by everything that I have heard written and said about it, I guess I won't be missing much of novel value when I give "Glass Onion" a pass. The tenor of reviews is that it is more or less a going through the numbers repeat of its predecessor's successful formula. Once is enough for me.

@sethguy179 10 месяцев назад

I disagree about All Quiet on the Western Front. The book was vastly superior. It lost nothing by omitting the perspective of the generals and politicians, because it was a story by and about “a generation of men who…were destroyed by the war.” The film buys in too heavily to the “Lions led by donkeys” trope that became popular in the 1960s. And the climactic battle in the new film gives lie to the title, as in the book Paul is killed on a day that the Army reports stated that nothing of significance happened, contrasting the vast impersonal forces directing the war with the personal tragedy of one soldier’s death with devastating understatement. And I think the original version handles it perfectly, establishing Paul’s lepidopteristic interests earlier in the film and then having this innocent civilian hobby lead to his demise. Set up, pay off.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Yes, well reasoned, and spot-on. The film from the thirties is so good that there was no need for a remake, I would have preferred that one being brought back into the cinemas.

@guruuu6609 Год назад

Its like Zack Snyder's Sucker Punch but without the action.

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Please don't mention Snyder when talking about cinema art unless it is absolutely necessary to mention him as an example for how to devalue source material or how to fail at telling a story with the unique strengths of the medium.

@HugoSoup57 5 месяцев назад

Don’t compare this fantastic film to Sucker Punch or any other Zack Snyder film for that matter

@guruuu6609 Год назад

I haven't seen this film yet Now I am going to watch it then watch the full video

@nickcharles1284 6 месяцев назад

Actually there articulation makes sense. People do not have to be literate to be well spoken. If your only form of expression is verbal, you get good at it. They are using common words, but using them well because this is how they speak to each other all the time. It is very plausible. In contrasts: try having a conversation with a modern college graduate. An English grad. They knowing more words does not make them articulate. We think of the women's conversation as fancy because we are out of touch with the forms of actual dialogue; we do not practice them. I found nothing particularly off about the dialogue snippet presented here. Maybe it gets egregious later, but not here.

@ChrisJensen-se9rj 5 месяцев назад

I cannot say i agree with your analysis of " All Quiet on the Western Front". The previous incarnation with Ian Holm and Ernest Borgnine did a much better job of bringing Remarque's book to the screen by simply following the book rather than " embellishment", with last minute assaults that weren't in the book, the sideline story of Corporal Himmelstoss ignored totally, even Katcinski's death handled much more true to the book. It seems the "new" producers felt that the book wasn't worth a damn, and very loosely " adapted" only certain sections. Why call it "All Quiet on the Western Front" and then ignore most of the novel it was supposed to be based on. Underwelming, disappointing and as you pointed out, with the exception of "Kat", characterisation noticeably ABSENT. 2 out of 10

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

You’re totally incorrect on the 2022 version of All Quiet on the Western Front, it’s an excellent and harrowing war film. All you really did was complain about how it only very loosely adapted the book. Your comment is pretentious and devoid of meaningful criticism.

@ChrisJensen-se9rj 14 дней назад

@@HugoSoup57 Why call it "All Quiet on the Western Front" then, if it's not going to follow Remarque's book either in plot structure, characterisation or in the spirit of which the book was written? A last moment big attack just before the armistice? Was that in the book? Nope. "Kat" caught stealing and killed by a civilian? "Kat" was wounded by shrapnel when he and Baumer were carrying rations to the front. Baumer gives Kat a "lift" to the dressing station, talking to him the whole way, but he is hit by shrapnel again and dies before Baumer even realises he's gone, setting up the iconic moment in the book with the orderly telling Baumer " you could have saved yourself the effort". Was that in the film? Nope Where was the death of Kantorek? Baumer goes to see his mother on leave and lies his ass off telling her that he died " without suffering". Was that in the film? Nope. Corporal Himmelstoss ? Central character representation of Prussian entrenched militarism favoured over common sense? Was that in the film? Nope. Baumer going home on leave and not only seeing how bad it is at home but having to deal with armchair experts at the pub still talking about " the breakthrough"? Was that in the film? Nope. Tadjean surprising Himmelstoss on his arrival at the front and taking revenge for all the time Himmelstoss spent punishing them with humiliation or "the muddy field". Was that in the film? Nope. All these central events in Remarque's book that got center stage in the Borgnine version, including Baumer getting stuck in a nomansland shell hole and having to watch a French soldier that he seriously wounds die as well, and taking his ID, promising himself to tell his widow what happened to her husband, which he never does.. All these events, central to Remarque's book, and not even mentioned. The 2022 film might as well have had a different title altogether.

@ChrisJensen-se9rj 14 дней назад

@@HugoSoup57compelling cinema it might have been. "All Quiet On The Western Front" it WASN'T. End of story

@ChrisJensen-se9rj 14 дней назад

@@HugoSoup57"excellent and harrowing war film" it may have been. But "All Quiet On The Western Front" it WASN'T

@stevecarter8810 10 месяцев назад

Ahh but the dialog is not there to support the character work, it's there to make the movie sound smart, and flatter the critic

@HugoSoup57 5 месяцев назад

Except that isn’t the case for Women Talking or many other Oscar nominated movies. You’re clueless and ignorant pal.

@curiousworld7912 11 месяцев назад

If someone grows up in a culture that speaks such as these women do; wouldn't they, even if illiterate, speak the same? As for the book, 'Women Talking', deviating from the film, or vise versa; that's hardly a new thing, and in this case, I think is perfectly believable. I'm not saying it was a masterpiece, but I think you give less credit than it deserves. I agree on your criticism of 'All Quiet...'. The original film, and even the TV miniseries, were actually better. This film did lack a lot of 'character', other than Paul's. Many others felt somewhat interchangeable. I've not seen 'Glass Onion', or 'Maverick', but 'Living' is a fabulous film, and should by rights, win an Oscar, as should Bill Nighy.

@LongRest 10 месяцев назад

I didn't saw the movie but I thought they had simple life style and weren't a part of high society. I mean, I doubt they husbands spoke like that so neither should they. And in the fragment about "I tear his limbs and desecrate his dead body", I think in the original it looked like an intentional joke. Imagine a scene where furious farmer lady says "If someone touches my daughter with even a finger I fucking rip his hands and shit on his corpse". And very concerned teacher in the corner thinks "How do i even put it on paper? Maybe "desecrate "?"

@stevecarter8810 10 месяцев назад

Two issues: 1 should they talk like that at all? I don't mind, you could argue that it sounds educated to us but that was the vocab of that time and place. 2 should they all sound the same with no character distinction? No, spend more time with dialog coaches and in character work to give the characters divergent voices. +1 diversity: women in a movie with opinions -1 diversity: women are cookie cutter prints of one woman

@sensitivedogs Год назад

I did not like the script, it is awkward in the manner they speak and has a boring similar tone.

@BiggieTrismegistus 11 месяцев назад

I haven't seen the movie but from the clips here it looks like it would be really annoying to watch. What they're saying is so obviously a *written* form of argumentation I can't believe they made it into dialogue. It's like they're all reading from a philosophical treatise.

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

@@BiggieTrismegistus Judging a historical / biographical movie for taking creative liberties and not having entirely “realistic” dialogue is just asinine and presumptuous in my view. Unless y’all can say for CERTAIN that this movie is so inaccurate, you can’t say diddly-squat and this argument has no leg to stand on

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

@@sensitivedogs It’s a great script, it might seem awkward and boring to YOU because you can’t appreciate actually sophisticated and nuanced dialogue.

@raulqa 11 месяцев назад

White Noise should have won, but it wasn't even nominated.

@agnessofiacastrocarvalho774 10 месяцев назад

White noise is trash

@HugoSoup57 5 месяцев назад

White Noise didn’t have an Oscar worthy screenplay tho

@MeretrixTricks 6 месяцев назад

All this confusion and misunderstanding of dialogues in this film is caused by people neglecting theatres more and more. They simply cannot comprehend that overacting, stylization, and controlled pretentiousness of dialogue can be a conscious artistic choice. Seriously, it's like going to Shakespeare's play and being outraged that no one talked that in the past.

@ahobimo732 11 месяцев назад

"Women Talking" illustrates a common failing of woke media, which is a complete and total failure to accurately represent historical context. This is a criticism that has nothing to do with ideology. It is not about what one might consider right or wrong. It is about TRUTH. I value it, and am offended when it is mistreated.

@Tamacat388 11 месяцев назад

lmao

@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад

Good point per se, but the common failure of Hollywood to go for some historical accuracy when you can just go with pathos and an "inspiring" moral is faaaaaar older than "wokism". It is just typical Hollywood being best at its worst tradition. 😂

@HugoSoup57 5 месяцев назад

Women Talking is a fantastic movie, and y’all criticizing it as a failure are wrong

@liltick102 9 месяцев назад

I’ve seen 25 dozen film’s and show’s with this same dialogue. Everything today has to have a condescending moral lecture in it.

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

Oh god forbid a movie actually have some thought provoking or nuanced message, subtext or allegorical meaning. I’m guessing you wanted something that’s mindless juvenile poorly written garbage like Fast and the Furious and Transformers movies. Gtfoh fraud

@456zounds 2 месяца назад

I found myself enjoying this picture...for, say, the first twenty minutes...but after about a hundred women (probably the entire female community) voted about staying, staying and fighting with the men, or leaving, we see only about ten in this barn holding a meeting. Where did the remainder go? Then, where are the men, over these several days? Wouldn't these women have to continue with the days' usual chores and activities? I suppose this is supposed to be essentially the "filming of a play," but this challenges credibility....and I found I'd about "had it," after maybe forty minutes.

@SS-ec2tu 7 месяцев назад

Top Gun Maverick is one of the best films in history. A retired pilot friend of mine, who flew F18s has watched it 7 times. I disagree with your view of the love interest subplot, as it illustrates how many combat veterans focus on what it takes to keep alive, relegating other parts of life to secondary importance.

@456zounds 2 месяца назад

TOTALLY irrelevant comment here.

@keithk2879 5 месяцев назад

Them speaking so well and delivering the lines the same made me turn this off. Like they were doing a table read. Absolutely shite.

@denroy3 9 месяцев назад

You are wrong about All Quiet, especially the ending. It's not better, it's wrong. Sometimes your opinions are egregiously wrong.

@ejtattersall156 10 месяцев назад

It was an original script idea: Man Bad, Woman Good from Sarah Polly, angry oppressed by Canadian white woman

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

It was adapted from a book of the same name you nitwit and adapted well.

@sirg-had8821 10 месяцев назад

Broads Whining

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

Oh you must think you’re so clever being a sexist troll

@sirg-had8821 13 дней назад

@HugoSoup57 The ending was terrible. I mean... they escaped the compound. 1 out of 10 stars. Buy the dvd at Goodwill and use it as a drink coaster.

@sirg-had8821 13 дней назад

@@HugoSoup57 They didn't wash a single dish the entire movie.

@askarsfan2011 10 месяцев назад

I don't understand your criticism of the dialogue in Women Talking. The women are speaking plain English. That's what English actually sounds like when it's not influenced by popular novels, movies, TV, or internet. These women live in a community that basically has the culture and language from the 19th century. Words like "rectify" and "desecrate" may not be in common use today -- most people only see them on SAT tests -- but these words used to be part of normal English speech, and people raised in these "retro" communities still use them in everyday communications. These women may not know how to read and write, but they have been listening to and learning proper English diction, oration, and rhetoric since birth, which is more than I can say for any modern college graduate. The author of the Novel "Women Talking" was born and raised in a Mennonite community and based her characters on the women she grew up with, so she knows what they sound like. Also why is it wrong for members of a close-knit, isolated community to have similar speech patterns? This is a meeting of a handful of women who grew up together and are related to each other, not a session of the United Nations. Frankly, your criticism is elitist, sexist, and ignorant. Do your research before you make these videos.

@ryokodeivisu 9 месяцев назад

You could just end at "I don't understand"

@GaudiaCertaminisGaming 10 месяцев назад

I don’t like All Quiet. It’s overblown. The 1930s version is a lot better.

@HugoSoup57 5 месяцев назад

The 1930 All Quiet on the Western Front is better, but the 2022 remake is great too. It wasn’t overblown, it was excellent and deeply moving.

@456zounds 2 месяца назад

NOT relevant to the movie in question.

@thespiritofhegel3487 10 месяцев назад

Looks like a load of crap to me,

@yukongold6602 5 месяцев назад

Why would anyone watch sexist crap

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

It’s based on a book written from a woman from Mennonite county you fraud

@AbrasiousProductions Год назад

let me guess, feminist propaganda?

@fastbowler Год назад

Actually, not at all! It's actually bad because of the principles of screenplay and adaptation

@candide1065 11 месяцев назад

Yes, feminist propaganda might be one of the 9494300 reasons this is bad.

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

⁠⁠@@fastbowlerActually, Women Talking is a great movie with a great script. It’s not bad from a screenplay or adaptation standpoint, you’re just ignorant if you really believe that.

@HugoSoup57 14 дней назад

@@candide1065But it’s based on a book of the same name from a real woman from Mennonite county. It’s not propaganda dummy.

@fastbowler 13 дней назад

@@HugoSoup57 It's based on Moviewise's premise. The ideas discussed in the script are valuable, but is it actually "women talking" when it's a male person documenting their views? Could there be a workaround for that for this adaptation? PS. Thanks for the ad hominem rejoinder!