Why You Hate iPadOS 15 - Explained!

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I'd just posted my WWDC 2021 iOS 15 for iPhone keynote reaction video when you all started commenting - raging in the comments! - about iPadOS 15. So, I scrapped the video I was working on about that and, instead of talking about my thoughts, I decided I should listen to you and answer your questions and concerns.
I asked you why you were angry or disappointed about iPadOS 15 - what specifically you were angry/disappointed about - and you let me know!
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@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

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@markoconnell804 3 года назад

As a professional in the investment and estate planning field I need the second screen filled to illustrate docs, video, or keynote presentation. Keynote does support full screen. The bigger the screen the easier for people in the back of the room to see. If I am away from the office and need these functions and more then I also need to use my iPhone camera to host a zoom meeting in 4K for best professional look. I also need the size of the iPad to navigate through the meeting app. Using the iPad camera if I am looking at the screen makes it look like I am not looking at the attendees. Subject matter changes so constantly trying to memorize each presentation becomes a job all on its own. So seeing the presentation they see is needed, seeing them is needed and using the best mobile camera is needed. While the direction tHey are going is correct I need it to be recorded and kept for a industry required period of time. I want the freedom to move between these tools, iMac, air Mac, iPad, and iPhone. Right now it is not yet there. My best camera is my iPhone but iPad will not let me choose to use it, even if I hardwire connect it.

@petersuvara 3 года назад

There’s a lot of frustration about this WWDC. Apple Developers have pulled out their pitchforks up against the disaster of concurrency programming with Swift. Apple really did mislead developers and overhyped their features. This years WWDC completely missed the mark on many levels.

@AdmiralBison 3 года назад

This problem isn’t going to go away. It will only get worse Imagine what happens when M2 and M3 iPads release in 2023, 24 etc...? The iPad Pro, especially the M1 is obviously targeted towards heavy and pro iPad Pro users, beyond the demograph that just browse and do some light computing that don’t spend so much money on highest end iPad Pros, they get the regular line and are happy with it. We all know heavy iPad Pro users have been very specific on the MacOS features they want over the years or even call for MacOS for the M1 iPad Pros. Many don’t care if it was for logistical, streaminlining or marketing reasons Apple put the M1 in an iPad “stole the M1 for the iPad”, the point is. iOS is not cutting it doing MacOS’s job for the high end M1 iPad Pros. It’s getting ridiculous paying so much laptop specs and prices and having an iPhoneOS providing an inadequate experience pretending to be a desktop OS. Apple can either make a hardline between M1 iPad Pros and everything below to satisfy two demographs iPads with iOS and M iPads with MacOS or continue catering to iOS and lose iPad Pro users who spend far more money. There is no reason to upgrade to M series iPad Pros beyond the 2020 iPad Pro

@markoconnell804 3 года назад

I do not see how a program limited to 5 gigs will ever tax the processor.

@ginjafox9509 3 года назад

Rene, I get this is meant to make me see Apple’s point of view, but it still feels like you’re apologizing and making excuses for Apple. I personally know 3 ppl planning on getting the iPad Pro based on what they announced at WWDC, and I know 2 that bought it as soon as it was available. All were disappointed, and the 2 who bought it, now can’t return it (Apple knew ABSOLUTELY what they were doing there.) I would have returned mine, had not been in the very FORTUNATE and UNIQUE situation of having a Dad who works at Cupertino, who heard my disappointment and surprised me with a base model Mac mini so I can take full advantage of the iPad Pro as it stands. I’ve accepted the iPad Pro as it is, and maybe one day my dream, since before the first iPad was even announced and we called it iSlate, of an iPad that can fully replace a laptop comes true. But it doesn’t change the fact that iPadOS 15 feels like it’s playing catch up in many regards to the iPhone, or the fact that many ppl who would otherwise return their newly bought iPads, now cannot.

@joniquealexander1135 3 года назад

“Tech youtubers represent an extreme minority of the market.” I could just kiss you for saying this.

@howieb2001 3 года назад

Yes this is very refreshing. I am becoming increasingly fed up with big shot tech RU-vidrs whining because not every device is made to their exact requirements. Also you can't blame Apple for not including features which are the product of the imagination of the numerous so-called leakers who seem to comprise most tech news these days.

@clh5863 3 года назад

I agree with you 💯!!! It so so nauseating hearing them complain video after video.

@dinkyshopYT 3 года назад

Agreed. Rene is the only tech writer analyst that gets that it’s not about the 5-8% of advanced users. Makes total sense that the iPad is its own thing, not the desktop replacement power users want. I mean, Apple is here to make money, and the money is in the 90% of the users that don’t need Xcode and final cut pro on an iPad. If you want that, get a Mac or laptop. (I mean, if it was early to execute, wouldn’t Apple or a competitor have done that by now?) And Rene’s point abt these power apps coming to a web interface makes more sense long term because then those apps will be iPad accessible, and improves workflow and your productivity between desktop and iPad when you aren’t at yr desk/office.

@76williamsbh 3 года назад

@Team inT I agree with what you are saying. The irony with the other people in this reply thread is that it's comprised people complaining about tech RU-vid... On tech RU-vid. I honestly don't think we're asking too much. There is no reason iPadOS cannot scale like MacOS does from the person buying the lowest spec Mac Mini and checking email to the top of the line Mac Pro encoding Pixar movies. Just give us the apps we need and improve the core parts of the OS such as Files, multi tasking, etc. Don't just catch up to iOS from a year ago. Even if Apple gives it features specific to Pro device users. @Dinky Shop says Apple needs to follow the money and cater to the 90% but what happened when Apple let the Mac fall by the wayside? The people that made the Mac what it is raised hell and now the Mac is in such a better place than it was just 6 years ago. Guess what? Everyone reaps the benefits, even non-tech RU-vid. Further more, if y'all want to play candy crush on your $300 iPad, feel free. Meanwhile the rest of us want to get some work done on our $1000+ iPads because Apple named them "Pro."

@robromford 3 года назад

I am a humble teacher. I use the iPad professionally together with my iMac and iPhone. In terms of preparing and delivering classes online, the individual differences in functionality are beautifully complementary. It's great to have this technology, which just seems to get better and better for my needs......and at a reasonable cost when you consider the whole package.

@fauxchung3189 3 года назад

An ipad pro and its pencil must be a God sent for your profession.

@samuelmanny6231 3 года назад

Esp spotlight is so much better now in ios and ipad os 15...even live text even offline for some of it's function that google lens can't esp private...even offline siri...even search photos in spotlight using texts on the photo...and more. Multitasking is also right instead of cluttered tasks.

@DanielOrtegoUSA 3 года назад

How dare you present a logical assessment!

@joeyortiz484 3 года назад

Crapple sucks

@gc3193 3 года назад

Hi! Tech enthusiast here. Me and my wife feel this is accurate, we love our iPads because they are both simple and powerful. She still uses the iPad pro 2016. We were once part of the hype of the iPhone 12 mini, and none of us ended up buying it… I agree, tech RU-vid does not represent the average user, and sometimes not even enthusiasts.

@listohan 3 года назад

I was expecting this episode to bring out the braying masses and it is encouraging to see the opposite. Tech RU-vidrs seem intent on taking the same line as each other in their videos. When did they explain the pressing need to bring MacOS to iPads? But that did not stop them from predicting it or even suggesting that is what the market wants. Be glad Apple stays on a mission to bring the best OS to each of its devices.

@gc3193 3 года назад

@@ArbitraryFilmings well sir, you might not be an average user, hope on future updates you get to use more of your iPad Pro’s power. 👍🏽

@lalithaprasanna2341 2 года назад

I do agree but some more knowledgeable tech RU-vidrs actually see what the market wants and not just what just what enthusiasts or pro creators want (for example putting Mac OS on the iPad sounds like a very god idea to the enthusiasts or the pros but then most families buy their kids iPads for schoo and not phones so families will have a very tough time using it , but some creators did say iPadOS should grow as its own thing and not just slap macOS on the iPad )

@dougford2504 3 года назад

I'm only 2 minutes in and I love this version of Rene. It is real. No gimmicks. No overhype. It is great. Keep doing videos like this, Rene.

@homeroavila2955 3 года назад

Wow. Just wow. Well said. No longer regretting my new iPad purchase.

@marcpuricelli 3 года назад

Good take. I use an iPad Pro and want it to be my only device, but the iPad is also the device that my mum & dad use and they want it to remain as simple as possible and familiar.

@fallsdp 3 года назад

And it can be. Do your parents have iPad Pros? I believe the pro should be able to run virtual machines…. This way, the pro can do it all. The other iPads would not have the hypervisor program. The hypervisor should allow machine emulation and allow pass through from the thunderbolt 4 port. A virtual machine running MacOS would allow programming for the iOS devices. This one thing, if done right, would literally make almost everyone happy.

@marcpuricelli 3 года назад

@@mg00 That Apple isn't a charity is no secret. At the end of the day if we keep buying from them they're doing something right. I don't think they want to differentiate software for users. They want users with basic iPads to have access to as much of iPadOS than those with more expensive Pro devices. But they want the more advanced features to be there for those who want it, increasing the tablet's unbelievable flexibility. And tbh, I personally don't want a different OS on my iPad Pro. I think that iPads are great precisely because they are simple, yet powerful. I think that the sense of fun and wonderment on iPad comes from those moment when you can create complex things from simple tools. For example, running Photoshop or even Excel on a desktop can do everything you could possibly want. Yet, why don't we enjoy using such programs on Windows or Mac? Because the complexity makes it boring and feel like work. I think they did a pretty good job adding capabilities to the OS while staying true to that vision of a simpler, more fun version of computing. Now we just need external monitor support!

@marcpuricelli 3 года назад

@@mg00 Why can't you have fun while working? Or at least enjoy using the device? And Apple is not good at software compared to who? Google?

@andrewjohnson2465 3 года назад

One of the best tech channels on YT.

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

Thanks so much! Any fav vids so far?

@Fernie52984 3 года назад

@@ReneRitchie and that’s the truth!

@ConorORegan 3 года назад

I love the intro to this video! I feel like M1 set everyone up for disappointment including myself because we thought pro apps were coming but in reality it’s just to simplify production lines instead of making what is essentially the same CPU and calling it A14X. After using the beta on my iPad though I can confidently say I’m happy with the changes and I’m not disappointed anymore

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

Yeah, the expectational debt was huge and strangely un-managed going into the keynote. Does it change how you feel about iPadOS 16 or still sky high?

@ConorORegan 3 года назад

@@ReneRitchie I’m confident that iPadOS will remain its own separate thing and while I’ll never be able to truly get rid of my laptop in favour of an iPad as my primary computer becomes I work with networks and programming in college, I’m happy to see the iPad only get a few good features every year in favour of stability and allowing the iPad to breathe in its own category

@roguewavecreative 3 года назад

@@ConorORegan I agree and people that always nerd out need to be aware that MOST users can use an ipad as a primary computer. These changes as a graphic designer will help me and I like the idea of using an app and then moving it to a project. Seems good for workflow.

@Sacto1654 3 года назад

The A14X design _was_ effectively the M1 design except for the lack of certain processing functions to support x86 compatibility. As such, it was just cheaper to put in the M1 into the iPad Pro.

@teachingwithipad 3 года назад

yea but you don’t need m1 ipad. A 2018 pro will do fine with the limits they put on apps.

@VisualGameDev 3 года назад

After this year WWDC I just want Apple to release iPad Mini with new design and lets say A14, that would be the device I will buy. iPad Pro with M1 is just overkill with current state of the iPadOS.

@rebeccaw9656 3 года назад

Yes, same!

@MarcosElMalo2 2 года назад

I think visually impaired folks (and I’m specifically thinking of old people like me, whose vision gets worse as their bodies age) would appreciate an iPad Mini with a decent camera.

@joseyong 3 года назад

iPads pro are taking more like iPhone SE approach. I still holding my iPad Pro 2018 so most likely will wait a couple of generations before getting a iPad Pro M1

@EverettVinzant 3 года назад

Same for me…

@AkakiPeikrishvili 3 года назад

Same here. I'll buy the next iPad Pro if they have better battery like M1 MacBook. Battery life has relatively been same for 2018-2021 Pro. 2 days battery would be awesome.

@dangn5017 3 года назад

Thank you so much for breaking all these down, they make sense. I now have a different and better view about all these things that I had had resentment toward.

@Beefers26 3 года назад

Such a useful, informative video Rene, so a big thanks for that. You are the first and only person who has finally explained to me why the new iPad Pros have such high GB memories in a way that I understand! Impressive. I am upgrading from my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 to the new 11-inch M1 iPad Pro for the very reasons you outlined and hope I can get used to the new smaller screen size! I think it'll be worth it when I enjoy the better portability and weight of the 11 inch.

@JohnEnergy2012 3 года назад

Still on 2011 MacBook, finally feel SOME upgrade fever.

@RN-yo4qm 3 года назад

Thank you for doing this video. I'm excited for all the new updates.

@MySwatchOrama 3 года назад

I couldn’t applaud you any louder. Amazing grounded video.

@vRoMe0 3 года назад

As always, great video Rene !!

@Juhsentuh 3 года назад

Awesome perspective on the iPad Rene! I now have a better understanding of what is happening with the iPad. 👍🏽

@riggssec250 3 года назад

Thank you for posting this. I think this is the point many youtubers are missing and you are the first one I have seen call out this issue.

@francoisberkinjr5088 3 года назад

As usual René, you made a very solid point! I'm in total agreement with everything you just said. The tech community tends to expect much more than the average consumer which for the most part only needs the basics. As a tech enthusiast myself, I will admit that I always want to have the latest gadgets and the latest technology in my devices even if it's not something I will use in the real world but I guess it's just the big kid in all of us tech heads! 😄

@jamesnyers1721 3 года назад

Still i think the iPad Pro is not ‘pro’ enough now, or they made the base ipad too powerful. Anyway I want logic and final cut and Photoshop on iPad. If I can’t have sophisticated programs like that then there’s no need for an iPad Pro. The base iPad is plenty powerful, and does the same.

@shotbru 3 года назад

And they shouldn’t be marketing a “pro” device to consumers then. It’s false advertising.

@ghostraider4312 3 года назад

Let’s be honest here. iPadOS is not designed for iPad Pro. We need an iPadProOS

@76williamsbh 3 года назад

This sums it up right here. I love that Apple continues to support older devices but Apple cannot continue to justify the cost and power of the iPad Pro and maybe the newest iPad Air when it’s running the same OS that an iPad Air 2 from 7 years ago is running. Some kind of a line has be drawn.

@LeIandFoot 3 года назад

We need iPadProOS 15

@LaurenGlenn 3 года назад

@@76williamsbh So, if they put MacOS on the iPad Pro?

@76williamsbh 3 года назад

@@LaurenGlenn I don’t necessarily want that. I’d love something in between. MacOS would need a massive overhaul to be touch friendly but I think iPad Air and Pro deserve something between iOS/iPadOS and MacOS in their current forms.

@LB-yg2br 3 года назад

@@LaurenGlenn They need to just put MacOS on the Ipad Pro and update the pen to be a proper mouse replacement. Then put the Ipad OS on the regular iPad, which is going to get the M1 chip anyways let me real. There you go, you got a MacBook, the iPad pro hybrid, and the iPad. Blow Microsoft out of the water.

@carlpeduzzi3780 3 года назад

I have been following your videos for a few years and I have always thought you have done a great job. Yet, when I watched this, wow! This was a great video taking a realistic look at the iPad and it’s purpose in the Apple universe. Thank you.

@ag4eng 3 года назад

Thanks Rene for soothing us with this video. It’s going to be okay, right.

@bradleythornock8627 3 года назад

I 1000% do not want macOS on the iPad. I use an iPad as a laptop replacement and do pro level work on it. I got an iPad for this for two reasons. First I like to draw on the iPad and second, I like the focused workload of iPadOS. I don’t want 20 windows open at once because I like to mono-task

@Aggress92 3 года назад

I don't see anyone asking for apple to ship macOS on the iPad. I want them to put macOS as an optional add-on so I can use my iPad how I want. That's fine that you 1000% don't want to use your iPad like that, but why would you want them to not allow me to when you can simply choose not to engage in that feature?

@dalekstrauss 3 года назад

So don't open 20 windows - but why impose your work model on those of us who want more from a $1700 "Pro" device?

@bradleythornock8627 3 года назад

@@Aggress92 I was responded to the second section of the video, which was a question about why put the M1 on the iPad if Apple is not going to put macOS on it.

@bradleythornock8627 3 года назад

@@dalekstrauss To me this is like the old parable of the snake, you knew what it was when you picked it up. I deliberately picked up the iPad as it is knowing what it was, you seem to have picked up an iPad assuming it was a Mac in disguise. If you want a Mac like workflow, buy a Mac. I intentionally bought an iPad for an iPad like workflow. While the 20 open windows was hyperbolic on my part, I think my thought still stands. Far from me trying to impose “my” needs onto you, since my preference is how the iPad was designed to operate; you are trying to impose your needs onto an already existing architecture. Again, if you didn’t want an iPad like experience, why did you shell out $1700 for an iPad? This is like buying a Hummer and then expecting to handle like a Porsche, because they are both V10s.

@christophercrawford2736 3 года назад

@@dalekstrauss I think 3 or 4 apps on screen at once is plenty.

@djsnowpdx 3 года назад

I’m on the 2017 Pro and I’m HYPED to upgrade!

@djsnowpdx 3 года назад

As Rene says, upgrading from 2017 if not 2015. Also, note that the CPU and GPU performance of the A10X on my 2017 Pro is perfectly respectable today. As Rene says, it’s about whether the chip is still powerful several years down the line! I’m happy to have bought into such a great platform back then, and this device is going to my dad to enjoy for many more years! However I am a power user and I’m missing the Neural Engine terribly. The list of features my iPad lacks is getting longer and longer, and the M1 iPad Pro is going to catch me right back up again! As Rene says, new chipsets allow for new feature sets!

@keithdorsey2666 3 года назад

This video is the sole reason why I've followed you!!!! Thank you for doing what you do at the level you do it !! The Best !!

@gadget5129 2 года назад

Dude, this was just fantastically well done. Thanks again for the great work.

@LiveStreamingPros 3 года назад

Love love LOVE that you made this about us.. the viewers... and I love that you were just honest about it all!

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

Thank you and *thanks* to you!

@pgiulan 3 года назад

Form over function. I actually love all the additions.

@CescoCDN 3 года назад

Brilliant. The in-depth explanation is testament to your meticulous approach to teasing out the facts.

@callumlangstroth4830 3 года назад

Thank you for making this video, I'm finally making the upgrade from the 2017 iPad Pro to the M1 and I've been watching and reading a lot of reviews and opinion pieces on it. For me, it is a substantial upgrade that will change my day to day workflow. It is also clear that a lot of the under the hood power is to give longevity to the device so that it can remain viable for the next 3-5 years like the 2017 models.

@tringuyen7519 3 года назад

Thank you, Rene, for explaining the memory on the iPad. It was illuminating!

@cactustweeter2890 3 года назад

I do not want macOS on iPad. I want iPadOS to add those features from macOS that will make it more powerful and be able to run more powerful apps.

@chromaticvisuelle 3 года назад

Same! But won't happen.

@robertkessler6641 3 года назад

Always so well broken down. Always good information. Always honest. Thanks, Renee

@terrenspencer4439 3 года назад

Thank you for the perspective check!

@elmedin26 3 года назад

I’m really pissed with the external display support. Also many of my clients are pissed, they’re not Apple fans, they just want to have a fast device to get the work done. It would be enough if they could mirror the iPad and adjust the resolution (without this black bars). So many of my clients (I’m in branding strategies / design) would replace all of their windows pc with iPad. Connecting the iPad to a display would help them so much. The iPad is a power machine and Apple ignoring needs for proper external display support is so annoying. I don’t think it’s just 10%, so many of my clients are loving the iPad, because it’s so similar to the iPhone and they know hot to work with them. My clients are working with Excel, eMails, Safari, Keynote, PowerPoint, Web-Applications and so on.

@dinomantri1706 3 года назад

I agree with you but i imagine it is coming. but even then managing displays and resolution on MacOS is still kind of crappy. either that or I’ve been doing it wrong… for 20yrs.

@SimonLYW 3 года назад

@@dinomantri1706 SwitchResX

@elmedin26 3 года назад

@@dinomantri1706 I don’t know how you’re using external monitors, but for me and my needs (design) it’s ok. I have a set-up with a maxed out MBP 16” and two LG 27” Ultrafine and it works. But it’s my first set up with a MBP and two external displays. Before that I used an iMac with a Thunderbolt Display and it was also great. It would be enough if they would provide some basic functionality at the beginning. An iPad is primarily a mobile device, but to be able to work on a desktop is also important. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@Rob165x 3 года назад

I noticed Netflix goes full screen on TV when you launch it on the iPad, but then it stops playing the video on the iPad screen, kinda changing the functionality, almost as if it’s being Airplayed. So apps can do optional implementation, but it shouldn’t come down to the individual app, should be an OS feature. Especially if you can’t use the iPad without removing the video from the TV, and yet the audio continues in the background (buggy) but it goes back to mirror view.

@SimonLYW 3 года назад

@@Rob165x I'm pretty sure that features's been around as long as AirPlay, 10 years or so. It's a shame that it's still the state of iPad external display support.

@daringeric 3 года назад

Thank you for this. I was waiting for your take on this and I appreciate your thoughtful approach. I’ve been using the iPad as a pro for 2 years, but I’m a different kind of pro, I sell for a living, therefore email and access to web apps is important, but the iPad lets me do work during the day and media consumption at night. Being able to grab it off the keyboard and sit on the couch is part of why I love the iPad.

@patrickcallahan2885 3 года назад

Ditto

@matt2m 3 года назад

Same here man car sales rather the pro for a few reasons

@guycortesi 3 года назад

Great video. Really thought you explained many iPad OS issues and concerns very well.

@ArjunJosephMovies 3 года назад

Such a great video explaining Apples logic. Thanks Rene!

@AnUnseenRuler 3 года назад

“People who just want to get their work done...” Thank you. Exactly why I use Apple products in the first place.

@fallsdp 3 года назад

Except I can’t…… No one in the industrial world uses Mac or iPad to do work…. iPad is used for teleconferencing, ticketing, PDF viewing, emails, and browsing. Yet, general programming, PLC programming, security systems, badge ID systems, Bidirectional OBDII code scanners, and most other nuts and bolts stuff is done on Linux and windows. I cant even do complex IT work on iPad because apple tells app developers that they cant have an app on the store that exposes MAC addresses. (A MAC address has nothing to do with Macintoshes) A MAC address is something contained in all Ethernet devices. So my Ubiquiti app and my Fing app can’t show me the MAC addresses of devices on my network. Yet I can use safari on iOS and go to my ubiquiti system webpage and see it all. So Apple’s stupid limitations do nothing. If apple simply gives me a hypervisor app and lets me run VMs….with pass through via the port….that would solve everything for me.

@micanalnotienenombre 3 года назад

@@fallsdp completely agree with you. It's a bit stressful how for the vast majority of Apple users, the only PRO workflows are those involved content creation. We IT staff get thrown in the trash. Not only that, I've argued countless times in Twitter how an iPad capable of running MATLAB would be great.

@Charlie-dp5wr 2 года назад

Really strong argument, but I think the only hole is this: calling it an iPad Pro and saying "its a device for everyone" is a paradox. Anyways, another amazing and intelligent video from you Rene

@kishaunhale5796 3 года назад

Thank you for this video Renee.

@hynekd 3 года назад

Fantastic! We would live in a better world if other RU-vid reviewers listened to Rene before they created their own videos. Great job Rene.

@Isengardtom 3 года назад

Great video - typing this on my M1 iPad Pro that I love. Looking forward to iPadOS 15

@ElevationEveryWeekend 3 года назад

Great vid, Tech RU-vid/Twitter needed this kind of rebuke. I run my RU-vid channel through my iPad using Lumafusion. It’s great and I have no desire for Final Cut. My 2017 iPad Pro was just recently showing its age, I got the M1 12.9” and it’s an awesome machine, and I expect 3-4 (or more) productive years out of it!

@manishthapliyal6372 3 года назад

There's something that the cook wants you to know. Best in the world is Ipad for you

@techietam 3 года назад

What's your workflow like, from getting the video files into your iPad to adding music to your videos? I haven't tried it myself yet on my 2018 iPad Pro, but I imagined it would be clunky.

@tommyjacolbe-jrgensen7480 3 года назад

Can I ask which configuration you got? I use an iPad Pro 2017 too and LumaFusion, and want to upgrade, but can decide..

@ElevationEveryWeekend 3 года назад

@@techietam workflow is really smooth. I move my videos into the photos app, which Lumafusion accesses in app, so super easy to preview, drag and drop into timeline. For music I use Storyblocks, which is also inside Lumafusion. It’s a potent piece of software for $25 lifetime cost!

@ElevationEveryWeekend 3 года назад

@@tommyjacolbe-jrgensen7480 I had 256g on my 2017 and that was always plenty, so I stayed with 256g on the M1. With the Thunderbolt port it will be super easy to use a Samsung T5 SSD for extra storage, or iCloud, or airdrop files I want to save to my Mac to store there.

@Ilkello99 3 года назад

loved your explanations! so objective!

@nevhoffman 3 года назад

Absolutely agree Rene! Quality video.

@toddhumphrey7961 3 года назад

Great video! Once again, Rene shows he has the biggest, most insightful brain on tech RU-vid.

@max-olson 3 года назад

Here here!

@zoestertoaster27 3 года назад

I was kinda disappointed with the keynote, but this video definitely made me feel more grounded about what was presented. thanks man, you make my favorite apple content for sure.

@LunchBSandwich 3 года назад

About a day ago, I was wondering what you had to say about this issue. Now after viewing your video, I am greatly pleased at your response. I’m glad you took the time to explain this whole M1 iPad Pro debacle and not nerd rage or declare that you’re returning/selling your iPad Pro. Looks like I’ll continue to subscribe to your channel for the for the foreseeable future. Max Tech on the other hand……. 🤔🤔🤔

@paulvanobberghen 3 года назад

I’m looking this on an iPad Pro 12.9 1st gen, and it is perfectly fine for me. I never feel really limited in any ways.

@doriangray2347 3 года назад

I just want scalable memory management for the 16 GB and apps to use as much as they would like. Maybe some allowance for scientific academic sorts of computing and coding.

@sloppynyuszi 3 года назад

That’s all I want too. This will help a lot for many art apps I use. I didn’t think Toon Boom will release Harmony or Storyboard pro for it 🤣 just want to make bigger projects on Procreate and Callipeg.

@jedidiahsteele7847 3 года назад

Thanks for doing This Format…It was Honest, Open, and Truth…Thanks!! It really helped me Understand Apple’s direction!

@jeffhale1189 3 года назад

👀 I enjoyed this very much. Thanks for your thoughts. Blessings on your day 🍎

@timmy334 3 года назад

The way you explained the M1 being in the iPad really changed my mind. I'll be getting one for graduate school this Fall after all.

@samuelmanny6231 3 года назад

Watch all Samuel Suresh videos and...Thomas Frank's video on his iPad setup is a productivity game changer

@sgtzilla58 3 года назад

Makes total sense. The M1 iPad Pro will be future proof for years to come.

@AdmiralBison 3 года назад

What would be the point in getting M2, M3 and M4 iPad Pro in years to come? As of right now, there is little no incentive for iPad *PRO* users to upgrade beyond 2018 and 2020 iPad Pros. There are TWO demographs of iPad users, - the ones who just get regular iPad lines for browsing and light computer, and pro users that Apple isn't addressing who spend far more money for iPad Pros who are not being provided with a "pro" OS to go with the iPad Pro.

@mosijahi3096 3 года назад

@@AdmiralBison what is it that you really want from the iPad , that it doesn’t do know .

@LiveLifeWithLove 3 года назад

You don't buy hardware for future haha .. it is not Bitcoin

@LiveLifeWithLove 3 года назад

@@mosijahi3096 it doesn't fit in my pocket

@AdmiralBison 3 года назад

@@mosijahi3096 Have you not been listening or seeing what many iPad "PRO" users of the iPad "PRO" line have been requesting? They/we are very specific MacOS features - Better File management system there are MANY things lacking in File apps that we want from MacOS - NTFS, FTP server, progress bar, etc.. - true multi tasking LIKE MacOS, NOT some janky split screen - Multiple user accounts and profiles, - elevated permission - can install own .ipa - PRO Apps - Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Xcode (Swift is not cutting it) - Full Safari and Mail as they support beyond just pluggins - Virtualization and emulation support or allowance - Full proper external display support across the board, NOT just on some select apps - Apps to utilize more than just 5GB of ram. Apple restricts this on even the 16GB M1 iPad Pro etc.... Basically more MacOS, for iPad Pros. the M1 iPad Pro with laptop specs and prices is an M1 Macbook in tablet form and user who spend so much to specifically get these and NOT the regular iPads are not getting the OS to fully use those specs.

@ThePNWRiderWA 3 года назад

I just want final cut , logic , Ps ( not the scaled down version ) to run on my iPad. Lumafusion is a great app. However I want to work in the apps I am family with on my iPad. The pencil and using my fingers is so helpful ; Apple refuses to support a touch screen on the Mac so I hoped my key apps would come to a 8-16 gig iPad. For myself , it has blurred the line. Get the m1 pro iPad or the MacBook Air.?

@BlindedBraille 3 года назад

It's never going to happen. If you want desktop apps, buy a Mac. If you want iPad apps, buy an iPad. If you want both, then buy both.

@ThePNWRiderWA 3 года назад

@@BlindedBraille that’s what I decided to do. Upgraded to the m1 mini and the 2020 pro.

@udp1073 3 года назад

In my personal opinion this is, bar none, the smartest and best thought out video about Apple and tech i have ever seen. Thanks.

@KarimMaassen 3 года назад

I like these kind of analysis. Insightful and honest.

@mosijahi3096 3 года назад

I’m glad Rene is trying to clear this up. Just stay on the Mac, I had two Macs don’t miss them at all. Great Job Rene , Great Job 👏🏿. Now the thing is , how many are going to except your point of view , keep up the great work Bruh 👍🏿.

@user-gn1cl9ix7p 3 года назад

You need to proofread.

@fallsdp 3 года назад

I don’t accept his point of view because he is wrong. iPad and iPad Air for normal users. iPad Pro for power users….you know, the 10%……

@johnforde7735 3 года назад

@@fallsdp If iPad Pro users were power users, why did they buy an iPad instead of an M1 computer??? I guess they weren't power users after all. Just Wannabees

@mosijahi3096 3 года назад

@@user-gn1cl9ix7p did you understand my point? If so what’s your point ?

@neilducoff8186 3 года назад

Thank you for saying what needed to be said about the M1 IPad Pro. It’s crazy how the reviews went from, “best and most powerful iPad Pro ever,” prior to the WWDC keynote, to “Apple ruined the iPad Pro.” Loved all my iPads since iPad 2. Upgraded to the 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 to the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 and couldn’t be more delighted.

@grainmachine 3 года назад

Absolutely. I hate to say it but there really are a good number of not very smart people talking a whole lot of BS on many, if not most, of these Appleverse RU-vid channels. RR proves once again to be one of the very few people in this space worth listening to.

@fallsdp 3 года назад

Neil, Apple did NOT….ruin….the iPad Pro. They created a Ferrari and then limit it to roads with a 25mph speed limit. For the top iPad Pro money….$2400……..the thing should be able to run VMs. This should be a full fledged computing platform. Do it by using Virtual Machines. I should be able to spin up an instance of Windows or Linux. I have no use for MacOS…..except to program for iOS. I started with the top of the line iPad original 64gb storage machine. I had the first iPad Pro, the 2018, and the 2020. I will not get the 2020 unless there is some compelling reason. Right now, there is none. Nothing taxes this 2020 1TB cellular iPad Pro…..much less yours.

@briannhinton 3 года назад

The reviews I read and watched were mostly: It’s a great iPad, but it’s still limited by iPadOS.

@Bloooo95 3 года назад

Most reviewers said the hardware was great but that the software was limiting. And it is. If you think the Files app is a decent file manager, you’re insane.

@JJohnson313 3 года назад

Really well said. I just purchased one this week. I’m upgrading from the 2015 generation 1 iPad Pro. This thing is a beast.

@waynelatham2433 3 года назад

Thank you for the best of your ability it was one of your best, with I hope the best yet to come 👏

@lomarvgc1580 3 года назад

What Apple could do is make Swift play ground, iMovie and Garage ban more powerful and optimized for the iPad and the Mac can keep Xcode, final cut and logic 🤷🏾‍♂️

@BlackHistoryBuffTV 3 года назад

This all day. I could care less about iPad running Mac OS I just want logic and fcpx. I’d even take an upgraded version of garage band and iMovie. The thought of having to buy another Mac to get those two apps is sickening, my only solis is that I didn’t buy an M1 iPad.

@philphillips7744 3 года назад

iPados is 15 is just what ipados 14 should have been maybe even a 14.1.

@philphillips7744 3 года назад

@Tom Herbert like what ?

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

How so? Almost all the headline features are iOS 15 or unique to iPadOS 15? Live Text, Quick Notes, etc.

@JCU84 3 года назад

I wish my tech tubers thought logically like you. Good stuff 👍🏽

@erikrosli 3 года назад

Very good explanation Rene 👍🏼

@Ben-eu8dz 3 года назад

This is a really great video Rene. The tech bubble needs to take some of these points on board so badly. Even as a developer, if I hear one more time that a device isn't for professionals unless we can write code on it I'm going to lose my mind, some people really need to pull their heads out of their asses.

@fallsdp 3 года назад

How about YOU pull your head out your ass and realize the price for the top of the line iPad Pro increased by 25% from last year. $2400.00! For that kind of money, it had better be able to damned well do just about all I want in a ultra portable form factor. Yes, I want to program on it. I want to run virtual machines on it. Just what do you use one for? Do you even have an iPad Pro? Do you plan on getting one? The dang machine has more power than the servers that ran companies not so long ago. In 1998, the Home Shopping Network was running the shipping operations of its largest fulfillment center on a DEC server running a Pentium Pro, less than a gig of memory, and three 200gb scsi drives in a raid 5. It was running NT4 server and SQL Server of that era. The 2020 iPad Pro in my hands now is way more powerful. So how about you, Ben, pulling your head out of Steve Jobs’ dead ass. This platform has sooo much potential and Apple has never realized it. I had the 1st iPad….even then, it was hobbled by artificial constraints.

@ronsmith4330 3 года назад

VRY WELL explained. Thank you.

@starshipupdates5217 3 года назад

Is iPadOS stable enough to use daily on an iPad Pro. I’m thinking of downloading the developer beta but im not sure if its a good idea

@tomliebau694 2 года назад

Great video! Should have way more views!

@benscherer7256 3 года назад

I can confirm jumping from the original ipad pro, the new one is an amazing upgrade

@suyashchavanofficial 3 года назад

Oh! First time noticed his background closely. It looks much like one in Godzilla Vs Kong, doesn't it? 🦖🦍❣️

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

Who's background? Mine is based on the Dark Knight poster colors :)

@suyashchavanofficial 3 года назад

@@ReneRitchie Yeah. But the Orange and blue looks like that of Godzilla Vs Kong released in 2021, since it is fresh in our minds! Check out the poster of GVK once on Google you will get what I mean.

@gordonshlai 3 года назад

@@suyashchavanofficial i think the orange and blue scheme became popular after Mad Max: Fury road

@suyashchavanofficial 3 года назад

@@gordonshlai Orange Scheme become popular after Mad Max but Orange and blue were best presented in The Dark Knight

@stewartlogie 3 года назад

Extremely well put.

@michaelfurness8050 3 года назад

I upgraded from the iPad Air 2 with its big borders and home button. Love this new iPad Pro and that it does for me

@nigelbassett3791 3 года назад

I need that Tim Apple shirt in my life

@ReneRitchie 3 года назад

It's from Jonathan Morrison!

@tajdvl-advocate6113 3 года назад

Why?

@cynthiamcdonald3096 3 года назад

Thank you for the first sane discussion and the facts to support this iPadOS 15 review, both good and bad.

@akbarzaheer 3 года назад

I have iPad Pro 10.5 inch 2017 model. Still feels great. Use it with Logitech Combo Trackpad keyboard. Don’t think the performance power is any less. Can you predict how long further will it get iPadOS updates?

@KTWatcher 3 года назад

Thanks for this. Some of the reviewers made me worry, but I’m happy with my iPad Pro M1 purchase. Keep putting out the good content and great work!

@Evan_Rodgers 3 года назад

I love iPadOS 15 and it made me want to buy a 12.9 iPad Pro M1 even more!!!

@MS-1994 3 года назад

In 90% of cases, the iPad Pro is a product in search of a market... I simply can't use my iPad Pro as a go-to device because iPad OS is so hobbled. I end up taking notes with it and occasionally using the pen for some creative apps.

@ginkgobiloba8286 3 года назад

Yes unfortunately, thats it. you cant use it for more than surfing, „gaming“ and note taking

@soulkeys86 3 года назад

This was such a good video 🙌 made a lot of sense! 🙂

@aberdeenbelfry316 3 года назад

Came to this channel because of another RU-vidr and I’m now subscribing because of this video! Nice job sir!!!

@jeanmichelaulas1205 3 года назад

Maybe apple should’ve just called the M1 in the iPad Pro the A14X even if it’s an actual M1 just not to have anyone confused But to be fair for the whole consumer market who just saw that the M1 chip is insane it makes more sense so both work I guess

@jeanmichelaulas1205 3 года назад

@Aidan Scott ?

@jeanmichelaulas1205 3 года назад

@Aidan Scott oh I’m really sorry to hear that. I hope you’re doing better mate. Wish the best for you in the future. Take care

@katrinabryce 3 года назад

The thing is, we know that Final Cut Pro, Xcode, etc can run on the M1, and run really well, so why can't we get them on the iPad? The complaint is that the iPad Pro hardware is capable of doing so many things, but the software is holding it back. A RU-vidr I follow who has a nail-art channel, and definitely not tech-oriented, does her editing on iMovie on an older iPad Pro mainly because her older MacBook Air is not up to the task, and I'm sure she would like to have the additional editing capabilities that Final Cut could offer.

@edgartheface 3 года назад

Between iMovie and Final Cut is a huge gap where LumaFusion fits in perfectly. A lot of RU-vidr use LumaFusion for their needs.

@arun3151997 3 года назад

I really think they had planned for logic and Xcode to come to the iPad but something happened and they couldn’t do that

@dairedarcy1130 3 года назад

Excellent take on this

@infomatinfomat3903 3 года назад

Great speech - Thank you

@andyH_England 3 года назад

Yes, every Apple event should pause after every feature and Apple should explain why they did that as in this new era of complaining about everything, every possible take on what someone sees or says, Apple needs to try and make sure no one is upset by something they never said they will do but because YT influencers claimed it was happening, they should address it and apologise and offer therapy from the Apple Store? Or maybe people should accept what Apple does and what Samsung does and choose what is best for them? If those on YT do not understand they are a niche techie community and that Apple has to succeed at the core level of consumers then they are rather self-centred and will forever be disappointed? And what are all these comments about "pro" and M1, these are all marketing and we are all grown-ups and to get upset when a pro labelled device is not pro-enough is ridiculous? Though no one whined about the Galaxy Book Pro not being "pro" so maybe it is just something Apple gets trolled for?

@subaltern6823 3 года назад

Nobody buys a galaxy book with the expectation to be pro. Apple on the other hand placed Mac specific IP for emulating X86 programs in their iPad. WWDC was literal cognitive dissonance- emerging from their mixed marketing.

@iseptimus 3 года назад

Buying the M1 iPad Pro is the first time I’ve felt ripped off by Apple, and I own AirPods Max! The software, even iPadOS 15 limits the hardware so badly. Apps can’t even take advantage of the hardware as they have to be backwards compatible. That 5GB mem limitation hasn’t gone away.

@lordwilksy 3 года назад

Amazing .. definitely the most thoughtful concise channel! So, after all your info my choice comes down to either getting the Air or Pro m1 book… they seem very similar.

@ThePilottribune 3 года назад

I like you even more after watching this. I think so many youtubers forget that the VAST majority of tablet users are not PRO users and that people just want their tablets to be fast and do the simple things they need them to do. Well done sir! If I wasn't already a suscriber, this would have gotten me to subscribe.

@BillyPhilipRwoth 3 года назад

Tech RU-vid wants the iPad Pro to become a Mac...and yet there are Macs already!😂

@pinkdiscomosh2766 3 года назад

So good. I’ve mentioned on other videos that are talking about this that I’ve given up the unreasonable expectation that Apple will make the iPad into a Mac like device. In fact, I don’t think I would really want that. I would rather the Mac get more iPad like features like better cameras and Cellular options. It seems like Apple is somewhat going that direction with the Mac without the Mac losing what makes it special. And you’re totally right about the iPad being perfect for the rest of the market. My mom switch from a MacBook Air to an iPad Air and all of her previous computer problems went away like that. It was just easier for her to use a device that was like her iPhone rather than a device that was unlike her iPhone.

@ginkgobiloba8286 3 года назад

But i pad is still not useful for real productive stuff like office stuff e.g its impossible to use it as a student as the only device. You always need a real computer and i think thats the problem

@pinkdiscomosh2766 3 года назад

@@ginkgobiloba8286 it depends on your work flow. I know artists, photographers and podcasters who only use an iPad for their professional work. If your needs are outside the iPads capability, buy a Mac my friend.

@bruxi78230 3 года назад

You make an excellent point about the Mac should be more iPad like. Fortunately the move to Apple silicon will allow Apple to more easily bring over the features that make sense to improve Macs. Whenever I watch a video that says things like "Can the iPad replace a laptop", I know immediately that the person who made the video doesn't really understand product design. Even though they have some items in common, they are designed to be different experiences.

@pinkdiscomosh2766 3 года назад

@@bruxi78230 exactly. As someone who owns both an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro, I understand what makes these devices distinct. They are more companions to me than they are competitors and I believe that’s the point.

@phonepup06 3 года назад

I think a lot of people forgot that the developer Mac mini had an A12z. So naturally the upgraded chip of it would be essentially an iPad level chip. I also think some of the anger is from wanting instant gratification from what the new iPad can do. When apple has their plans set years in advance.

@johnaart 3 года назад

I dnt think they forgot... I doubt most people even know about the developer kit.. So the confusion is understandable

@DylanParisMusic 3 года назад

Appreciate your insight on this one Rene! Thanks for talking on Twitter and for breaking some of this down. I'm definitely disappointed with the lack of pro apps and the ram limit, but you make really good points about how niche some of those features are from apples perspective... even if I hate it haha

@scott0001 2 года назад

You explained it so well

@Trice0187 3 года назад

That Steve Jobs speech was a good point for it's time when touchscreens in general were new & foreign. But now, since there are 4 versions of iPads...the regular, the air and the mini can be those "easy to use" tablets. The problem with the "pro" moniker is people view it as a machine capable of all our needs from casual to extreme. but really the iPad pro is just a spec'd out ipad air with an os that severely bottlenecks it. The Macbook air can not handle extreme workflows so thats why they sell spec'd out Pro's with an os that allows it to be used to it's full potential. But the iPad Pro does not have an os or apps that allow it to be worthy of it's name. So it's time they gave the people what they want and stop telling us what they think the iPad Pro should be...

@davidgory1757 3 года назад

Then buy something else! Samsung calling?

@Trice0187 3 года назад

@@davidgory1757 great comment...🙄

@sharonb.9128 3 года назад

Great video. I appreciate your thoughtfulness around this issue. I was disappointed with most of my favorite reviewers. Too many fed into the rabid, “ I hate Apple for everything” crowd to validate their anger over not getting what they wanted. iJustine was a rare cool, nonjudgmental head.

@grainmachine 3 года назад

Absolutely ! Thanks so much for this. After the last little round of variations on. “ How dare Apple ruin everything by not doing what I fantasized about and then told everybody that Apple were mos def going to do ??? !!!! “ that was posted, and commented, most everywhere else out there, it really is _extremely_ reassuring to find that there is still intelligent life on RU-vid.