WinkBed Plus Mattress REVIEW by GoodBed.com 

Very glad it was helpful for you -- thanks so much for letting us know!!

PS After 4 months of lockdown, I've gained the "COVID 19" (at least), and am just shy of 250 at 5'11", and also need to sleep on a wedge which places more weight than usual at my hips. The stronger center coils of the Plus seemed to me to be the right way to deal with this.

Hi Greg -- thank you so much for the kind feedback! GoodBed was founded when Mike and his wife were getting the run-around when shopping for their first mattress. He realized there just wasn't a good source for unbiased reviews that had depth and solid testing. PS: I think we've all gained the "COVID 19" at this point....

@@goodbed Haha, the Covid 19 and then some. :)

Thanks so much!

Hi Mike -- Thanks so much for your comment. That is a critical question indeed. Sadly, many mattress store salespeople are simply not properly trained, or not properly motivated to ask you questions that truly need to be asked in order to help you choose the right mattress for you. Very you glad you found us so we can help get you pointed in the right direction. To this end, I'd highly recommend the GoodBed Quiz as the best starting point -- it provides a very efficient rundown of all the key questions, and then will point you to options that best meet your unique requirements. If you haven't taken it yet, you can find it here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/ I hope that's helpful.

@@goodbed Yes. Thank you.

Thank you! So glad you found it useful. We really appreciate the comment and the support.

Hi Edie -- Thanks for your comment. I'm very glad our review helped you confirm your decision on the WinkBed Plus -- we wish you many happy years of good sleep!

Did you find this mattress overly firm? I had to return the regular Winkbed firm, because I could feel the coils. I'd like to try this one. Thanks!

dovey 62 she said that she wished it was firmer.

dovey 62 - did you have the luxury firm or their third model just named firm? I have heard of other customers sating they felt the micro-coils and I am trying to figure out on what model they felt them - I am guessing the mid range medium feel called Luxury Firm. Thanks.

What was the memory foam bed you picked over the plus?

Eileen Acker I choose the Plus model because it doesn’t have microcoils. It has a layer of latex instead. It was great!

Thank you Leanne! We really appreciate the comment and the compliment, and especially the recommendation to friends/family! Wishing you many more nights of great sleep on your new mattress.

Hi Kim -- Thanks for your suggestion. We do prioritize our reviews based on input from our readers and the Big Fig has been on our radar so there's a chance we will be reviewing it in the not so distant future. In the meantime, here a few other mattresses we've reviewed that are specifically marketed towards larger folks: * Helix Nightfall: www.goodbed.com/reviews/helix-nightfall-mattress-review/ * King Koil World Extended Life: www.goodbed.com/reviews/king-koil-world-extended-life-mattress-preview/ Hope that helps!

Hi Howard. THANK YOU for your kind comment. Believe me -- these reviews could easily be an hour long if we really go off the deep end, and we sometimes struggle to keep them as short as 30 minutes -- but in our view, it really takes that long to cover all the aspects that will be important to shoppers. People doing 2-minute videos just don't get that. Enjoy your WinkBed!

@GoodBed the length was perfect. This detailed (no BS) info is highly needed!

Excellent! Glad you like it and we hope our video was helpful. Thanks for leaving a comment.

Our pleasure, I'm very glad it was helpful for you -- thanks for letting us know!

@godsnino I know it’s only been 4 months, but how do you feel about your plus? And, have you rotated it as recommended?

Our pleasure Michael -- very glad to hear it was helpful for you!

Hi MCS -- thank you for the comment and compliment! We are so happy you found our review helpful -- we think mattress shopping is highly personal, and our no-BS reviews are meant to help readers get a real idea if a given bed will meet their needs. Thanks again!

@@goodbed You are so welcome. I am a long time video editor, so trust me, I know good work when I see it. I also work at Adobe on Premiere and After Effects. If you are working on those programs and ever need support, let me know. I'll definitely click any affiliate links you have in the description if possible. Cheers.

Thanks again for the support -- and I've passed your comments along to our long-time video editor. He'll be thrilled that a colleagued appreciated his work.

Thank you and thanks for the comment!

Hi. Have you taken our Goodbed quiz? We'll ask you some questions about your needs and sleep preferences, then can give you a "match score' for the beds in our database so you can see how well they align with your personal needs. Start the quiz here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/quiz/ You might also appreciate our written review of the WinkBed Plus, which includes a detailed ratings breakdown: www.goodbed.com/reviews/winkbed-plus-mattress-review/ Hope that's helpful!

Thank you so much for your kind words, Joyce.

Understand where you're coming from. Most all sites have financing. For like say 12, 18, 24 and some even for a full 60 months without interest as long as you pay in full by that date. Thus, making the monthly payment affordable to you. You only live once, so I say live. Hope you take my advice and get what you deserve. It's exactly what I plan to do. I love this Wink Bed! Happy sleeping!

I understand completely. I am disabled and unable to even drive the hour to the mattress store to try out mattresses. i might get a Winkbed Plus. I am just worried about the 30 night thing. How do you sleep for a month on a bed that hurts?

They have a lease to own and financing option.

Hi and thanks for the comment/question. We typically test mattresses on top of our queen-size adjustable base. However, the test mattress we received from WinkBeds was king size, so we were unable to evaluate adjustable base compatibility first-hand. The company does say that the WinkBed and WinkBed Plus can both be used on an adjustable base, however. Given its overall weight, height and construction, we would expect some minor conformance issues, such as the foot lifting up a bit at first, or the center popping up when you get off the bed. Both would be expected to improve over time. We might also expect a little bunching of the top quilt when the mattress is in a fully articulated (bent) position. But overall, we expect this mattress would be just fine on an adjustable base. Hope that's helpful!

Our pleasure -- thanks for letting us know it was helpful for you!

GoodBed Was trying to decide between Wink and Purple #4. Watching this video and also your review of Purple #4 was a great help and I ordered the WinkBed today. Ordered the firm model and just hoping I made the right choice (firm vs. Plus). Thanks agin for your really in depth reviews.

@@snowpony001 You're welcome! I hope you're very happy with your choice -- sleep well!

Hi Luxe. ALL of the WinkBed models now have the zoned support. That means you could choose the Luxury Firm (medium) WinkBed and still get the zoned support that's part of the firmer and plus. For your light body weight, it's possible you may find the Plus or the Firmer too firm for your shoulder area. You can now try WinkBed in a few stores -- and for you, that might be the best way to tell which version is going to work for you. You might check and see if you live close to one of those stores (in Chicago, NYC, Austin, Minneapolis/St. Paul or Washington DC). Details are on the Winkbed site: www.winkbeds.com/pages/faq Hope that's helpful!

Hi Nicole. Thanks for the question. While we did not test the WinkBed mattress on an adjustable base, the company does say on its website that the bed can be used with an adjustable base. Given its overall weight, height and construction, we would expect some minor conformance issues, such as the foot lifting up a bit at first, or the center popping up when you get off the bed. Both would be expected to improve over time. We might also expect a little bunching of the top quilt when the mattress is in a fully articulated (bent) position. But overall, we expect this mattress would be just fine on an adjustable base. Hope that helps!

Hi there -- Thanks for your comment. I'm curious if your experience on the WinkBed Firmer has changed at all since your initial reaction. Your description of "sleeping on cement" sounds pretty extreme, but we do hear about lots of cases where the mattress just needed a few weeks to soften up, and/or the people needed a little time to adjust to the new mattress. If your experience hasn't changed, had you not considered replacing it with either the Luxury Firm or the Softer version of the same mattress?

@@goodbed , Thank you for your reply! Our firmer WinkBed has softened a little but there is still too much pushback. We just received our Layla Hybrid mattress today and will give it a try. If we love it, we will process our return with WinkBed. If the Layla memory foam isn’t what we like, we will exchange our WinkBed firmer for either softer or luxury firm. We do wonder if the WinkBeds firmness changed significantly when they went from the micro coils to replacing it with more foam. Before purchasing, we had watched videos that were nearly all for the earlier WinkBed with the micro coils. My best guess is that WinkBed made the change in the past year? We just made it to our 30 days with the firmer WinkBed. Please feel free to offer any suggestions. Thank you, again!

​@@rebeccabrown5014 I'm glad to hear that your experience with the WinkBed Firmer is improving. You're correct that the change from micro-coils to foam was relatively recent. If you'd like to see a review of the latest version (in the Luxury Firm softness level), you can find that here: www.goodbed.com/reviews/winkbed-mattress-review/ I hope that's helpful

What do you think of the mattress after sleeping on it?

@@russelltabor8728 LOVE it! I'm a fat guy side sleeper and it's fantastic.

Thanks for the reply. Looking at a few options and it seems like a decent choice.

@@EMTinVA still fantastic?

@@chrisd4454 Hi Chris. I really like the bed. I'm not at all happy with the way the platform foundation held up. That started going south on me pretty quickly. I did decide to upgrade to a Cal King, so if you're in the LA area let me know and I'll make you a great deal on that queen. =)

@goodbed, one more question, why would be better option winkbed plus vs saatva ?

Hi and thanks for the question! We have reviewed both the WinkBed and the WinkBed Plus, and found them to be more similar than different. I'm not sure why the Plus keeps coming up higher since I don't know all the factors indicated on your quiz, but you might have a look at our written ratings for both of them. For stomach sleeping, both are well suited to people of your size/weight. WinkBed: www.goodbed.com/reviews/winkbed-mattress-review/ WinkBed Plus: www.goodbed.com/reviews/winkbed-plus-mattress-review/ Now that you've take the quiz, you can navigate to any mattress page and see your "match score" for any of the beds in our database, so while the WinkBed Plus keeps rising to the top for you, it could be that the other hybrid mattresses you mention are only a few points different (probably not enough to make a material difference), so certainly check those out if you are looking for a more natural bed. We have reviews for Avocado, which we thought was great for stomach sleeping, but not so much for side sleeping: www.goodbed.com/reviews/avocado-green-mattress-review/ Birch -- good for stomach and side sleeping in your weight range: www.goodbed.com/reviews/birch-mattress-review/ and Brentwood Cedar -- great for stomach sleeping but only so-so for side sleeping: www.goodbed.com/reviews/brentwood-home-cedar-mattress-review/ Given that you and your wife are combo sleepers, the Birch looks like the better choice among those three natural mattresses you mention you're interested in. Hope that helps!

GoodBed thank you so much for your response! I looked at more beds and birch and avocado , Awara 10/10 Match. Although I did read that avocado is firmer (just like you said). Awara - I have some reservations. I spoke to them on the phone and they said mattresses are made in USA , however, some reviews state that there’s made in china label, and company claimed that “accidentally” they put old label 🤷‍♂️. Any opinion on winkbed ecocloud? Thank you!

We haven't reviewed the EcoCloud yet. Awara is made by the same company that makes Nectar and Dreamcloud. and they're all made overseas.

Hi there -- Thanks for your question. If you are both side sleepers, that rings some alarm bells in terms of the Allswell. As you can see in our back support and pressure relief section in our Allswell video, we did not find that it was the best match for side sleepers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mg-BOSefmMQ.html Your best bet is to take our GoodBed Match Quiz -- this situation is exactly why we developed it. Answer questions about your sleep habits, preferences, and other needs, and our algorithm will give you a list of mattresses (online and store models) that are most likely to meet your needs. Then along with the list of top models, you'll also be able to see how your needs stack up against the models you mention above. Start the quiz here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/ Hope that's helpful!

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Hi. Have you taken our quiz yet? We developed it for exactly this situation -- answer a few questions about your body type, sleeping positions, and preferences and we can match you against all the beds in our database. You'll then have a short list of models that are most likely to meet your personal needs! Start the quiz here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/quiz/

@@goodbed Wish I had taken this quiz before buying the Winkbed luxury firm. It recommended I go with the softer version and after almost two rough months on the luxury firm, I agree.

Hi Tavo. We can't make a blanket recommendation based on just those couple of details about you. Your best bet is to take our GoodBed Quiz, which will ask you some questions and make recommendations based on ALL your needs. www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/quiz/ That said, we have reviewed a few mattresses designed for plus-size people in addition to the WinkBed Plus. See our review and video for the Helix Plus, which we found to be well suited for both back and side sleepers: www.goodbed.com/reviews/helix-nightfall-mattress-review/ We also have a new video coming soon on the Saatva HD that should be posted next week, and we think you might want to have a look at that review. Hope that's helpful!

Hi -- thanks for the question. We did review an earlier version of the Idle mattress, but they changed the construction almost immediately after we tested it, and we have not yet evaluated the new version. We do know that the body impression warranty -- that's the minimum depth of permanent impression before you can make a warranty claim-- for the Idle is 1". For the Winkbed Plus, it's 1.5". Body impressions are a particular concern for heavier individuals, since body weight + time is what causes mattresses to lose their shape over the years; heavier weight can accelerate that gradual process. Have you taken our GoodBed quiz yet? This is exactly why we developed it. Answer a few questions about your sleeping preferences, budget, and needs and our algorithm will show you which mattresses rank most highly according to your answers. The quiz might turn up some models you have not previously considered that meet your needs. Start the quiz here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/ Hope that helps!

I had that same debate with myself! I went for the Wink because there were simply not enough reviews of the new Idle (now with 6" rather than 8" coils, for example). Also the Idle added up to about $250 more than the Wink.

Hi and thanks for the comment. WinkBed sells an adjustable base, a box foundation and a frame for the WinkBed. In our video, we are using the Lineal adjustable frame, which we use for all of our videos to keep uniformity. You don't specifically need a box foundation for the WinkBed, but you do need SOME kind of solid foundation, even it its just the floor. WinkBeds has an FAQ with foundation recommendations: www.winkbeds.com/pages/faq Hope that helps!

GoodBed oh this helps tremendously, thank you so much! And a link as well, you are too kind 😊.

Hi Aisha. Thanks for the question. We use the Lineal adjustable base from Saatva in most or our reviews. You can check it out here: www.goodbed.com/o/p/268195/

Hi and thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, the notion that "more firm" is always better for back pain is a myth. It's about finding a mattress that gives you good spinal alignment -- allowing your hips and shoulders to sink in enough so that your spine stays in a neutral (straight) position. And for side sleepers like yourself, pressure relief is also important. If you see our review page for the WinkBed Plus, we didn't find it to be the very best in terms of pressure relief. www.goodbed.com/reviews/winkbed-plus-mattress-review/ So your question is what to do now. Since you already have the split configuration, I'd suggest taking our Mattress Match quiz, where you can specify your personal needs and we can suggest some models that are more likely to meet your side sleeping and pressure relief requirements. You can start the quiz here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/quiz/ Your experience certainly shows how highly personal mattress shopping is -- that a bed that works great for one person might not for another. Very sorry to hear the Plus isn't working for you, but we're sure you'll find another bed more suited to your needs that you can just drop right in. Hope that helps!

We've had this bed for 2 years and it now gives me the worst sleep I've ever had - terrible back pain from this thing. Went travelling and back pain went away. Am now sleeping on our couch and very hesitant about having to go mattress shopping all over again. I bought this mattress because of the good review from NYT.

​@@bridiemacdonald9436you're sleeping on the couch what is your significant other think about that

Hi Sae. Thank you for the comment. I am assuming that by "sagging" you mean body impressions. That's what most people actually mean when they say "sagging". (In contrast, if a bed is sinking in the middle, that's sagging and it's usually caused by having the wrong foundation). All foams have the potential to retain body impressions, and in our reviews, we look specifically at the type and density of foams to ascertain how long they will last. We talk about that in the "Materials" section and in the "Value" section of all of our videos. We also take a look at the warranty. All warranties include a guarantee against body impressions. For innerspring beds, it's usually 1.5" and for all foam mattresses, 3/4" is the standard. If you are primarily concerned about body impressions, you can look for a mattress with a lower body impression warranty. The WinkBed here is 1.5" but a lot of hybrid/innerspring mattresses have a 1" warranty. The best we've seen recently is the King Koil World Extended Life hybrid mattress, which has a guarantee of just 1/2". You can find our coverage of that bed here: www.goodbed.com/reviews/king-koil-world-extended-life-mattress-preview/ Hope that's helpful!

@@goodbed i just watched your review on the king koil... Thank you!

Hi Colette. Thanks for the question. The WinkBed Plus is perfectly able to be used on an adjustable base. Given its overall weight, height and construction, we would expect some minor conformance issues, such as the foot lifting up a bit at first, or the center popping up when you get off the bed. Both would be expected to improve over time. We might also expect a little bunching of the top quilt when the mattress is in a fully articulated (bent) position. But overall, we expect this mattress would be just fine on an adjustable base! Hope that's helpful.

Hi Jan -- Thanks for your question. We didn't actually have an opportunity to test this particular mattress for adjustable base compatibility. However, according to the company, it is indeed adjustable base compatible. And from many tests we've done of similarly constructed mattresses, we would expect it to perform fairly well on an adjustable base. The only likely issue I would expect would be some possible bunching of the quilt layers when you have both the head and foot fully elevated. However, this is a relatively small consideration that shouldn't materially affect the comfort even in that situation. I hope that's helpful.

Hi Lee -- Thanks for your question. I'm so glad you are paying attention!! 😊 I'm afraid you are right -- we didn't test the WinkBed mattress on our queen size adjustable frame, which is because we were sent a king size test model, so it simply would not fit. That said, even though we were unable to test it on this particular attribute ourselves, WinkBeds confirms that it most definitely can be used on an adjustable base. I hope that's helpful.

@@goodbed GREAT NEWS FOR ME! Thanks dude. I love your unbiased reviews! You do a really good job on all your reviews. Cudos to you! Happy sleeping!

@@tennesseehoneybunny Thanks so much for your nice comment. Very glad to hear that our reviews have been helpful for you!

@@goodbed You're very welcome. It makes my heart happy to know that you're diligent in your work! Want you to know, your conscientiousness shines through too! You ARE the best bed reviewer out there hands down. Believe you me, I ought to know because I've watched a whole lot of them. Matter of fact, you've been my #1 go to guy for honest bed reviews. Great guy with great bed reviews. Now, I've decided on WinkBed. Seems the company is moving on up since 2014. Yes, seems to me like they're doing pretty good from a financial stand point of view. So much so, that they've been able to purchase some mattress pressing machines! God has blessed them. Now, they can be much more competitive and cost efficient offering beds from a box. You'd agree. Draw back is that currently, they don't have Amazon Pay in checkout. Only Google Pay. So, I called to suggest they add a Amazon Pay button to the cart. Just think of how many more sales they could get with that feature function? Wow! Reason I say this is because Amazon offers it's card holders (18 month no interest) on high dollar sales such as this. Many more people would buy these if they had that type of financial payment option. Hey, it'd be nice if you'd suggest that to them too. They may listen to you more than me. Lol. Please do it for "We the People" and, for WinkBed's prosperity! More sales=more employees=more profits! They can get ahead of the curve with the "Amazon Pay" option. Good businesses help provide the people that are buying their products great financial options to boost sales. You and I both know most everyone uses Amazon Pay. And everyone loves 18 month no interest if paid in full. One more thing. Do you happen to know what the coil gauge specs are in the "firm" version of the Wink? There's a $200 pay difference between Firm and Plus. I like firm. I weigh 230LB. If the firm happened to be too firm then I'd have to buy a latex topper off Amazon. Should I not hassle and just get the Plus? Either way, I know this mattress will last me the rest of my life! I'm 58. Your thoughts?

Hi there -- Thanks again for your very kind words! It's always extremely gratifying to hear that the difference in the integrity and depth of our reviews comes across to our viewers. Factors like honesty, objectivity and expertise are unfortunately not easily detectable by computerized search algorithms, so we really hope that when our readers or viewers find us, they can immediately see the difference for themselves. Re: Amazon Pay, that's a great suggestion. We can certainly share feedback like that with companies in any conversations we have them. Re: the coil gauge, as described at 2:36 in the video, the WinkBed Plus uses 13 gauge in the center third and 15 gauge in the head and foot, whereas the regular WinkBeds use 15 gauge in the center third and 17 gauge in the head and foot (all 3 of the regular WinkBeds use the same coil unit). This difference in gauge is definitely non-trivial, so given your stated weight and preference for "firm," I would certainly recommend the Plus over the "Firm" version of regular WinkBed. In addition to the stronger coils, there are some differences in the other components that should benefit you over time as well. I hope that's helpful.

Hi Chris. When latex is made, it's poured into a mold, and as a result of that process, the entire sheet of latex has what's called "pin core holes" which pierce through the entire piece of finished latex. These are basically little air channels, so air can in fact pass easily through the latex. There are some pictures on our Latex Guide of how it's made, and what those pin core holes look like: www.goodbed.com/latex-mattresses/ Hope that helps!

Hi there -- Thanks for your question, and sorry we missed this earlier. If you're asking how this works for a couple who have different requirements, I hope you saw that we addressed this in the video. Our view was that the combination of very firm support layers with softer and more pressure relieving comfort layers enabled this mattress to serve a wider range of sleepers than some other mattresses designed for heavy people. I hope that's helpful.

Yes ! One idea is to slide an old sheet under the bed, kind of in the middle, so the sheet sticks out on both sides. Then two people can move it easily by using the sheet as a hand-hold. Hope that helps!

are you trying to turn by yourself or with help....I find rotating mine with no handles by myself is not that easy but doable with alot little pushing movements and walking & side to side ....good luck

Hi Charles. Unfortunately, no -- it can't be applied after the fact, I'm afraid.

@@goodbed Well thank you. I just received my WinkBed Plus and so far it's not what I was expecting. The particular one I got seems to have some manufacturing defects. Incomplete Tufts, lots of looks strings on the side of the bed, loose strings on and around the Tufts. The springs seem to protrude outside of the corners quite a lot. I've slept on the matress one night and so far don't like it. I don't know if my shoulders are going to do too well on this matress. I'm pretty heavy with very wide shoulders and the support doesn't seem to be there. I will let my body adjust and see what happens.

Hi Louie -- Thanks for your question. Typically we would say that it all depends on your sleep style and preferences, and that your best bet is to take the GoodBed Quiz (www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/), in which you can answer a few questions in order to get scored against thousands of mattresses and have it tell you how well your needs match up against them. But at your size, I do think you'd fundamentally be best served by a mattress that is made specifically for larger people, such as the WinkBed Plus. Hope that helps!

PLUS

Hi Jim. Thanks for the comment. I certainly feel the frustration. What you're talking about are "body impressions" and it's hands-down the most common complaint about mattresses across the board. We have noted some beds that address this issue with industry-leading warranties against body impressions. The average for hybrid mattresses like the WinkBed is 1.5" but some do much better than that. The King Koil World Extended Life mattress warrants against body impressions of just 1/2" -- meaning that any impression greater than 1/2" would trigger a warranty claim. That's the best we've seen for a hybrid mattress: www.goodbed.com/reviews/king-koil-world-extended-life-mattress-preview/ Tuft and Needle and Tempur-Pedic are both foam mattresses. Both warrant body impressions of 3/4" or greater -- also much better than average warranties. Generally, we find that mattresses that have a lot of quilting, or pillow tops, have a tendency towards body impressions over time because their softer materials compress faster. One idea, if you want a long lasting mattress but also want something super soft, is to buy something like the King Koil, then add an inexpensive and soft mattress topper. That way, you just replace the topper when it wears out rather than having to replace a whole mattress. Hope that's helpful!

@@goodbed Thank you, that is helpful. I find it is always easier to `fix' a too firm bed by adding a topper to it; we've done that in the past.

@@goodbed The King Koil is an AIR MATTRESS???? I don't think that will last long, it looks like something you'd put in your camper. lol

Oh no-- that's not the King Koil mattress we're talking about -- the King Koil World Extended Life we review is a hybrid mattress (spring plus comfort foam). Check it out here: www.goodbed.com/reviews/king-koil-world-extended-life-mattress-preview/

@@jimkroyer5280 Hey Jim, i was worried about this also since im in the same boat as you with body impression issues. what sold me on the wink bed is the lifetime warranty. just ordered it so ill let you know.

Hi Eileen. Thanks for the question. That information came straight from the manufacturer regarding the mattress we tested at the time. It's always possible they may have made some quiet changes, but at the time of our review, those were the correct wire gauges as provided to us. Hope that's helpful.

@@goodbed - Hi. Actually GoodBed is misunderstanding where the 17 gauge coils are (they are actually the actual micro coils- those gauges are 17 count and in all the hybrid models up in the comfort layer area); the 15 coil gauges are in the base of all the hybrids and the base of the Plus Winkbed as well. The other incorrect information in this video is when you mention that the Plus has a lumbar area with 13 gauge coils - that's not true and wasn't recently changed. The hybrids and the Plus have 14.5 gauge coils in the lumbar area and then 15 gauge coils in the shoulder(head) and leg(feet) areas.

​@Eileen Acker Hi there -- Thanks for your follow-up comment. I assume you are getting this information directly from someone at WinkBed, so I really appreciate you bringing these potential discrepancies to our attention. As we noted above, companies do sometimes make changes to their products without notifying us. We will check in with the WinkBed higher-ups to get a definitive answer on whether this aspect of the mattress has indeed changed since our review. That said, with regards to your allegation that this was a "misunderstanding" on our part, I do want to assure you that this was most definitely was not the case. As I would hope is clear in watching or reading our reviews, we take accuracy *very* seriously, so everything in our reviews is carefully researched and clarified in great detail. To put an even finer point on that, when getting the product details from a product manager, it is the norm that the product manager themselves will not be able to readily answer all of our questions, and also quite common for our questions to reveal inaccuracies of which they were not aware. Lastly, when compiling all of this information, we make sure to strip out any flowery marketing claims in order to get down to strictly objective facts that are likely not reported by other "review" websites. As such, I can certainly confirm that everything stated in our review was 100% consistent with information provided to us by the company. For the avoidance of any doubt, here's a diagram of the WinkBed Plus that describes the 3-zoned coil unit -- d.pr/i/JXEoRl -- and here's an excerpt from a conversation with a WinkBed representative that confirms the details about the coil gauges in each zone -- d.pr/i/uvdn5o. Thanks again, and I hope that's helpful.

GoodBed - the texas zoned coil unit means that for the Plus bed base coils every third coil is wrapped together for a more firm support system, however - the gauge of the coils in the plus model and all the hybrid models ate all 15 gauge coils except for the lumbar area in the luxury firm and the Plus - which is 14.5 gauge. The 17 gauge( since you know mattresses) would be way to light to be in a base - so that “range” that Joseph refers to in your link is the gauge of the micro coils in all of the top layers of the hybrids. There is no confirmation from anyone at Winkbeds that they put 17 gauge coils in the head and feet areas of the base coils for the hybrids. The link you sent is all over the place. I have a link myself where the Winkbeds rep was answering specific questions with specific simple answers - no ranges and strange back and forth. Sorry, but I was just trying to pass on what I know from talking to Winkbeds directly. I still feel very strongly that you are either being misinformed or are still somehow misunderstanding the facts about where the 17 gauge coils are and that the Plus mattress has the same base coil gauges and count that the Luxury Firm has -except that the Plus uses the Texas Zoned method to band some of the coils together in the base - for durability and support. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I did do two online chats and one phone call with three different reps all within this last week - and they all verified the info. I wrote down. Maybe the rep Joseph was not understanding your questions?

​@@eileenacker1964 Thanks for your comment. I confess I'm puzzled and bemused by how confident you are -- especially about what was true at the time we did this review! Do you by chance work for WinkBeds? If so, I wish you would just state that. If not, I will try not to be offended that you seem to think you've obtained a better understanding of this subject during a few hours of research than a person who has spent over 10 years obtaining information on this subject... 🙂 In any case, once again I do sincerely appreciate your efforts to bring this to our attention and will make sure we reach out to the company to dig into this further. The only possibilities are that: 1) it has changed since our review, 2) we received faulty information from the company at the time of our review, or 3) you have received faulty information recently. There are no other possibilities here that I see. As for your comment about the information we received being "all over the place," I suppose I will leave that for others reading this to judge. Here is the exact information they provided on this topic, taken word for word from the chat I posted above: * WinkBed: The coils are 8 inches tall, the gauges will vary from 13-15 -- 13 in the lumbar area, ranging to 15 for the areas that don't need as much support...The gauges in our less firm beds range from 15-17. * GoodBed: Just to make sure I have this straight, the regular WinkBeds use 15 gauge in the center third and 17 in the head and foot, while the Plus uses 13 and 15. * WinkBed: Precisely! In the case of the WinkBed Plus, we confirmed these construction details in other ways as well, including in our first-hand testing of the WinkBed Plus model shown in this video. TBH I'm not sure what more there is to say on this topic. In any case, thanks again for your comment, and for bringing this to our attention.

Hi there -- Thanks for your question. This will depend a bit on both her comfort preference and her body shape (ie, how curvy she is), but we noted in the video that we found there to be enough surface softness to satisfy the pressure relief and spinal alignment needs of a lot of lighter sleepers, which was not necessarily an expected finding for a mattress made expressly for heavier sleepers. I hope that's helpful.

@goodbed thank you. I layed on the Saatva HD and thought it felt good and may be comfortable for my wife too, but its a bit pricey. Im not necessarily at the weight where i need a mattress specifically for heavy weight people, but i just cant seem to find a mattress that would be good for my wife and myself with our weight differences. Im going to try the winkbed plus and hope it fits both of our needs. The Saatva Solaire may work as it uses air pressure for both sides of the mattress, but it is also pricey

@@linux_admin2501 Yeah, that's a tricky balance, and in your case I think this is a better option than most. The additional strength of the coil units should be a benefit for you, and hopefully your wife gets the comfort and pressure relief that she needs from it as well.

Thanks for the comment -- and we also hope you are very happy with your purchase.

@AJC I know it’s only been 3 months, but how do you feel about your plus? And, have you rotated it as recommended?

@@bbkg1979 the bed has me debating whether to keep it or not it still, I'm going to make a decision some time this week. The winkbed plus is a very hard mattress it has softened up a little but not by much, I don't have any lower back aches but now have some shoulder and chest pain it's mild but annoying, I am I side sleeper and I know that has a lot to do it maybe a back sleeper would have better luck. Yes I have rotated the mattress.

@@ajc5903 thanks for the response.. I’m more of a back sleeper so That makes sense., I wonder what Wink would suggest? Don’t know if you’ve tried a topper already, I know that helps sometimes. Either way I hope it works out.

@@ajc5903 Did you end up keeping your Plus? We have had the Plus for one week and it’s way to firm for us. Think of trying the Luxury Firm or even the Winkbeds soft.

Hi Morris -- Thanks for your question. This mattress has a great edge but is not what we'd call an "extra firm," so you might find it has more softness on top than what you'd prefer. Here are some options that are firmer, but also have excellent edge support: * Avocado -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/avocado-green/ * Saatva Firm -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/saatva-custom-slim-extra-firm/ * Beautyrest Black L-Class Extra Firm -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/beautyrest-black-l-class-extra-firm/ * Tempur ProAdapt Firm -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/tempur-pro-adapt-firm/ * Beautyrest Harmony Lux Carbon Extra Firm -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-collection/beautyrest-harmony-lux-carbon/ * Stearns & Foster -- www.goodbed.com/mattresses/stearns-foster/ -- check out the Rockwell Firm TIght Top and Ultra Firm Tight Top, as well as the Cassatt Ultra Firm Tight Top * Aviya Firm -- www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/aviya-firm/ I hope that's helpful.

About to return this mattress before it even arrives just based off that fact

Hi Pete -- Thanks for your question. We recorded this video in April 2019, at which time the price for this model was indeed $1,499 in a queen size. That said, as you know, all retailers do change their prices from time to time, so I certainly would not worry that there's any deception happening here. FYI, we keep the current prices and best available discounts completely up to date on GoodBed.com, so you can see those here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-model/winkbed-plus/ I hope that's helpful.

Thanks for the comment. Our tester, Mike, weighs about 200 pounds -- keep in mind that the amount of "sink" is not the same as the support of a mattress. The sink/cushioning depth does play a role in spinal alignment, but is also a preference issue that some people like and others don't. Underneath those cushioning layers on the very top, a mattress can and should still be supportive, as this one is. As you mention, some people find that soft/plush mattresses with a lot of cushioning just do not work for them. But it's definitely possible to find a soft mattress that still provides proper spinal alignment. Hope that's helpful!

@@goodbed no, a soft mattress is horrible for back support and back pain! You need a firm strong mattress with strong springs

@@gummybear41283 Again, that may be 100% true for you, but it is most certainly not a universal truth. Thanks again for your comment.

@@goodbed Exactly

@@gummybear41283 This is one of tne strongest ones out there man

This is upsetting to hear. Thank you for the comment.

Because of what?

We really don't have insight into whether that change was a cost-saving measure or based on customer feedback...

Plus never had micro coils

​​​@@goodbedI thought the plus never had micro coils? It's foam, latex, foam, pocketed coils, and then foam. I think he's talking the firmer model? As far as the guy laughing, I'm sure he's an expert lol. Maybe he should share what he owns

@@el34glo59 That sounds right to me. As far as I recall, the Plus always used a latex layer.