World of Warships - The Fun Police 

It's still working, I can confirm.

@@italomorais9424 Yup, works like a charm. 1,5 year and counting. No CV loss so far.

Glad I employed that Strategy when the glorious and ""''good'"" CV rework came live. Although. I played 3 matches since. What's weird tho is that Wows uninstalled itself afterwards. Eh

I'm coming up on a year of not playing... Mainly due to carrier fun police.. 🤔

Even as a battleship player, carriers are too OP. I only play a little bit every few months, and it's usually in operations because random battles are unplayable due to carrier spam.

Flambass did a salty Kaga video. After wiping out the enemy team he sent a complaint to wargaming demanding kaga gets a buff. He had a 10 plan torpedo squad at the end

@@hubristicmystic lol I saw some of that and he did by no means "wipe out the enemy team" kekw, he's nothing but the average decent CV player, wiping the enemy team is 200k in kaga.

@@hubristicmystic I really hope he plays Saipan against t10.

@@blackraen thx. having fun reading the comments.

Its like a survival horror game but you are fighting them off with a BB gun

Nah, it's what they gave to those of us who were fighting them to keep WOWP. WOWP got no support, no clan battles and nothing of interest for so long as they tried to kill it. Why do you think fighters are crap, its to fuck all us wowp players one more time.

@@jediknight1294 Too true. I wanted WoWP to live so badly, but they really went out of their way to screw us over. Literally abandoned the game from day one. Should have taken it as a sign of things to come, but now we pay the price. WG will never fix their games. It's not their way.

Posted this comment on a different Jingles CV oriented video, thought it worth further distribution. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mWNgIfhfdOY.html Hear WG's mealy-mouthed "explanation" regarding OP carriers and why. Money talks.

I liked that game. The way ground AA interacted with the air battle was very cool

While that IS a funny comment, controlling planes in warships isn't really much of a "plane game" when you can't even control your altitude at all. It's insanely over-simplified, and makes the rest of the game seem like an advanced simulation by comparison.

only cv players defend cv. if you play any other class there is no excuse ....

if any decent WoWs players defend CV... they're just masochist for so much stress fighting against CV while a sadist while playing as the CV.

Did you watch the video? The Mogador portion disproves the idea that CV's are all-powerful.

It's called Stockholm-Syndrome I believe...

They will stay in the game no matter what and WG isn´t going to change them a whole lot anymore so what will the repeated bitching do at this point?

Speaking as an Australian, and wishing him no ill, Steve Irwin made me cringe... a lot.

He's a reaaaally Grumpy BB, he's turning his turrets towards me, look at the Siiiiiize of those Barrels

@@iffracem I kinda liked him.

@@iffracem you just lost your citizenship.

And I'm over here cleaning up the coffee I just shot out of my nose.... That just made my day. Thank you for one hell of a good laugh!

That kind of dodge works 100% of time ... unlike the others, which mostly fail ...

That was the "dodged a bullet" variety

That's an effective way to dodge!

If you play just play low tier. But then I wish WoWS did better in their matching algorithm. I've seen teams in Blitz that are extremely uneven in terms win percentage and league ranking

@@mpetersen6 "Play low tier" Tier 3 and 4 are the most screwed by CVs, these ships have very little to literally no AA, most if not all their matches are double CVs, depending on the time of day its quite common 5vs5 with 2 CVs per side, they basically dominate.

To be honest, in real life some of those WWII AA cruisers were absolutely devastating against enemy planes. I just wish they managed to carry over that ability to the game, but who am I to argue with WG's Ass-Fuckery.

"Devastating AA" and Other Fun Jokes You Can Tell Yourself

The question is: Devastating to who?

Aye, that it is.

@@aco319sig3 wait until wg releases modern aircraft carriers with F35 fighters armed with anti ship missiles.

time stamp?

@@Gordon519 only the entire video

That explains those weird porn noises...

WTF LMFAOOO

A cultured legend

Well the FDR is broken, the loitering ability is just unfair. But as an Oland aficionado (I put my 19 point captain on her), I have to say: you can't really complain about CVs if you sail to the middle cap in a double CV game. The AA did its job (40+ planes shot down in a few minutes), but the first strike will always make it through.

@@landochabod7 Exactly. Charging straight in was stupid. He also gave full broadside to the rocket planes. Another rookie mistake.

@@tomjamespilcher6472 That can happen with lots of islands around. But in general, if there's a CV at least wait to figure out how good he/she is before trying to cap the middle in a smokeless DD. Let alone if there are 2 of them... As I said, I love the Oland (probably the easiest ship to get AA Expert in), but this is like going broadside in a German BB because "muh turtleback".

It IS an AA DD. It's just that AA in general does absolutely nothing to a CV player who can count past 3 (which is roughly 30-50% of them).

@@landochabod7 the method to counter FDR is to give the enemy team 2 aircraft carriers to the enemy team. Or 1 land based airfield with 300 aircraft ready.

exactly, uninstalled and smiled while I did.

haven't been playing since february 2019... and yeah, watching jingles is the only joy i get out of that game. lol

@@Xingmey I played from the first day of beta till the carrier BS, that was the last straw, just like WOT the wheeled vehicles and the OP fantasy tanks ended that game also.

I had a battle as a midway against a halland two or three days ago; i had 9 torp planes flying around, i spotted a halland and i was within AA range, so i instantly recalled my torp planes, hoping to save at least half of them. my camera jumped back to my cv and i saw all 9 torp planes die to flack shot at them as they flew up to a safe distance. Since then, i dont play an awful lot of world of warships and i agree with what youve said

Ditto. WoWs did the loathsome grind Xmas thing. Uninstalled and just watch Jingles now. Don't miss the game at all.

yea, had a match were one CV killed a DD, and a Des Moines at the same time.....

You do realize that didn't change right

@@mmyatt9560 the planes are unlimited now

@@stevengorton36 no they are not

@@mmyatt9560 The games are not long enough to actually deplete carriers entirely and as far as I am aware, given enough time you can regen back up to full plane count. It's just broken, I've had a Mannfred Von Richthofen lose dozens of planes in every attack, getting only one strike off per squadron, and with a combined 86 plane kills, he was STILL sending full squadrons at us. And the chipdamage kept creeping up, considering he was causing between 6 and 11K damage per strike. So please, tell me how I can deplane a carrier now, shooting them down seems not to be what does it alone.

continue to use those rose tinted glasses why dont you

The old RTS CV gameplay was way worse we just had fewer of them.

@@Nightmare_52 hes got a point at least DFAA did something with the RTS CVs and AA skills ment something and shooting down planes ment something

No, the old RTS was actually very good. It did need some minor balance tweaks, but the actual game play was NOT anywhere as bad as the current one. Rocket planes alone are game breaking now. That doesn't get to the idea of unlimited planes, and roughly 4x the speed. Plus all the automatic damage repairing and immunity of the CVs. Plus the ludicrous hacks easily available to half decent players. The old RTS version was MUCH more fun for everyone. It took skill to be highly effective, and there were effective counters to pretty much all CV play. Not to mention that CVs could actually fight each other. The rework is an utter disaster. RTS was far, far more fun and more a much better game

That fucking thing had a whole different bag of issues.

Subs are coming.

yeah. they should remove ability to spotting just like arty in WOT, or reduce spotting range by half

Artillery is cancer? Hold my beer?

I miss old arty :c

Well you see...arty can be one shot by just about anyone and has a long reload...CV? Not so much.

Just try being in a match with 3 CV's, ah....... good times. Thankfully WG removed that.

You say that, when there is SEVERAL instances of this happening in videos that Jingles has made

It’s a CV swarm on Asia server. The biggest surprise is not having a cv. But two cvs is very common

You're absolutely right. It should be 3v3 CVs in tier5, in a 7v7 match. Happened to me in a Nicholas. Wasn't a fun game for anyone.

Come to the blitz version then you don’t even fight one a lot more

Wouldn't that be a TOGboat?

Inb4 it gets devstruck by HE bombs

The tog has no aa and arty is already there main natural predator so aircraft carriers would be able to easily kill them

@@godemperortrump6932 Although it's far harder to directly hit a TOG with bombs, torpedoes, rockets or shells, the explosions they leave for most of these mentioned are usually more than enough to kill a TOG

@@xymonvillapando9129 eehhhhh I play war thunder a tog would be an easy target

^

Rocket? More like jet engines

Can also tell you that was a perfect storm of RNG with one of the only CVs that could actually do that. The FDR has a metric ass ton of bombs per strike and has super slow tough planes normally at best 1 or maybe at most 2 bombs would hit if any. Those bombs would be akin to getting slapped by a T10 BBs HE shells.

Actually it was a perfect demonstration of what NOT to do in a DD. He was stopped in the cap. (CV now knew he was there) when he decided to evade he drove straight away giving the bombers his full length to hit.

Yeah but who goes straight into a cap in a DD in a tier 10 game????? Convenient that not many people mention that or the fact he gave the bombers the full length of the ship to aim at.

@@Kompoism Also you can hear the bomb release. Do a hard over and braking maneuver at that moment and most of the bombs will miss. The going straight in is a rookie mistake that many players blame on OP CVs and not uneducated DD players..

Next you are going to say showing broadside is the perfect demonstration of the current state of OP AP shells......

Yeah because WT planes aren't made from concrete

@@business3173 uuuhhhh, have you flown the JU 87? Flys like a brick lol

Yeah, WT is just as bad, in Ground and Air they are much worse IMHO. Air in "ground forces" is way OP and the SPAA provided, while decent at times, is more often than not used for anti tank ops,(where they are often more efficient than actual tanks at tank killing). If you open up against air targets the stream of tracers just tells every enemy on the map where you are and you're dead. Co-operation with other SPAA is near impossible, as just like WoWS, every player is out for themselves and will only activate the brain when some research or grinding profit is available for them. With the little ship battles I've played in WT ( I just don't like it) the AI provided AA on the ships is the polar opposite of WoWS, almost impenetrable. Both publishers are entirely focused on the wallet, and use the same tactics to get people to open it. The majority of teh player base must be obliging, or they wouldn't be profitable. Sure, they need premiums and in game money to pay the devs, but both publishers are guilty of focusing much much more on revenue and ignoring the player base. But heh, it's a market economy, the bean counters and shareholders rule.

@@iffracem I'm talking about the durability, the reason they don't die very fast in WT is lack of good AA vehicles and the difficulty of shooting something down if it isn't flying in straight lines. Most planes in WT will shatter from just a few 40mm bofors hits, whereas in WoWs it takes three million.

@@iffracem It depends on what tier you're talking about. Lower tiers' CAS is much more likely to get several kills since SPAA takes a large amount of skill to effectively use down there, at top tier SPAA is extremely effective and you'll often get shot down before even spotting enemy tanks if you aren't smart or careful. Also most of the time in WT ships, if a plane wants to get torps on you, they'll do it 70% of the time. AI gunners are very good a shooting down aircraft only in certain circumstances. Most of what kills aircraft in WT naval is AA from other ships than their target ship, coming in from several different angles.

Well, I think any CV players with brain would also acknowledge that current CV is so cancerous for the game.

Two days ago I burnt down a cv with my Duke of York doing 10k damage and setting three fires (he was 15k hp)

yes so many hate comments by cv players the comment section is starting to burst with all that hate.

@@squirrely_wrath whatabout....

@@squirrely_wrath it is entirely possible that both of those things are bad for the game, but that one is entirely worse.

they don't even have to do that just spot them and the team will kill them. Unless well....ya know, they have a fetish for getting torpedoed.

i remember I used to have my carrier upfront as an AA barge while my squadrons were all scouts on different parts of the map. I always liked playing an anti-carrier style where my fighters would intercept. It kept my planes alive and once the AA started getting low I could freely crossdrop and bomb whoever i wanted.

me two. i was a cv main before the rework, used to run full strike loadouts. carrier gameplay after the rework just became boring so i sold my carriers for the free exp.

So basically destroyers are useless, in a naval game

Same here, I was a CV user before the rework, which was why I bought the Enterprise, Because I had found carriers actually fun, but after the rework I deleted the game because it took a lot of the fun away from the game.

Herpa Dukka Dukka probably would have worked as well.

Then i also want an option for DD's russian ships and any ship i dont like

@@davidbiemond2478 No, because surface vs surface ship mode is OK.

@@Testacabeza thats what you think, but i dont like torps. My point is that you cant comply to millions of players at the same time.

The big issue is good players trying to counter their stupid shit and making their spreadsheets look nice when they succeed. What they should do is play as a CV and at the start of the game ask in chat which players on the enemy team think CVs are balanced and fun to play against and then proceed to bully the shit out of them. Rinse and repeat until the only one who cares to answer "Yes" is the enemy CV. Don't try to fix WGs problem for them. Of they aren't fixing it then the only way to get them to react is by abusing those problems to ruin the game for everyone else until WG is forced to fix them.

"I want a game mode without [tank/ship/mechanic" is a bad deal. If you add a mode without this thing, it's a legitimate request to take away that thing in a different mode. And the other thing in yet another mode. And the kitchen sink because you don't like the copper fittings. It splits the player base every way, will increase matchmaking times, and basically invalidates design decisions. Sure, the devs are willfully awful, and take liberal definitions of 'design decisions', but they want to make sure you 'enjoy' the fruits of their 'labor' and buy a new premium.

I remember smack talking cvs trying to get on their nerves just to chase me in my atlanta now you just gotta hope they ignore you

@john smith God, I remember when my Atlanta was a good ship. I miss those days. :-(

Cleavageland?

Aye

You have to hand it to the Brits, they do have some absolutely stellar idioms.

@@ursamajor7468 we learned it from our famous bard Shakespeare, very overrated, just took a load of famous quotes and put them in plays!

In Australia it's more often "Mad as a cut snake". A personal favourite is "All over the place like a mad women's shit"

Sorta similar to the old "more fun than a barrel of monkeys" kinda thing I desperately want to use as often as possible.

With 'Randolph' as a first name you'd have to. ;-)

2 years late for this, but: they do. Pre-update and post-update had/have a limited amount of planes.

Just like real life!

Until WoWS adds depth charge fighters. Then it becomes 12 v12 carriers.

@@ElementZephyr we can always have no cv mode in game. WG can add that

@@1mol831 They will never add that, because then no one will play the game modes with carriers except carriers, and we'd finally get realistic carrier combat...

@@1mol831 Would be nice, came back to the game after an 8 months absence as I was annoyed mostly at the fun police and in my first game with a carrier my Bismark was hit by dive bombers, lost 12K health and set 3 fires and I still didn't have anything to enemy to even aim my guns at by that point. Carrier then focused 100% of their attention on me even when I ran to find a cruiser for AA support, got killed and that bloody carrier did about 60,000 damage, it was a very quick blip back into WoWs am back to playing games I can actually enjoy again for now though a no CV game mode would entirely solve this problem.

Because that's what current CV players are, toxic useless kids cherry picking something CV is supposedly lacking while ignoring all the massive issues they produce for all the ship classes in the game

He said "kids would be playing them". That was your first clue.

@@Pan_Damjanek i would say both sides have toxic cherry pickers in them there's always something that someone will complain about i agree that cv's can be incredibly fustrating to fight against more so whens is a cv player that knows what they are doing but the same can be said for stealth torpedo dd's.

Hey, they more than enough money from Premiums, why would they care? Players are gonna have an even worse time when Subs come out, and I don't doubt that aircraft are going to be able to spot subs since none of the fights in WOWS happen in deep enough water to hide them, so even subs will suffer the wrath of CV's.

They don't seem to understand the fundamentals of business. Keep your players happy. It's a bad business model that prioritises the enjoyment for 2 to 4 players over the that of the 20 or 22 other players.

@@rickfortier8664 Wrong. They can make a heap of money (and are) by getting new players to buy premium accounts, premium ships and in game money. They play a few games, possibly even top tier, and then most likely get pissed off and leave. Doesn't matter as the money used to buy the premiums etc stays with the company, the revenue is safe. Using that model (same one Gaijin uses) they don't have to do the difficult dev work of ensuring the core gamer mechanics are sound, they just need to keep providing more bling and shiny new models to entice new players to keep the revenue coming.

In fairness they were bitching about RTS carriers for forever , just like they were bitching about Artie and tank destroyers in wot. I quit wot when they stripped out half of the open maps, removed the cover and added a bunch of city maps making anything other than a heavy tank unplayable 3/4ths of the time.

@@mrspeigle1 Yeah I hated RTS carriers, both playing and fighting against them. At least after the rework I find them fun to play. Not that that makes them balanced by any means.

wait they're BANNING people for doing early game CV hunting????

@tristan raffan Yuro was also slammed pretty hard for his CVbegone vid. His strat was spot and snipe with a Graf z and to Musashis.

Seeing a CV in a high teir game is not guaranty that your going to get kicked into next week. It might be a complete noob with more money than skills. But they usually buy BBs because they like things that go boom. But then so did the DDs in this Mingles

Yup, and I might say, pretty much whatever the class and ship they play.

@@mpetersen6 but even said complete noob with a bought FDR is more than capable to ruin the day for mutliple seasoned players.... CV play isn't hard, you know? especially if you are driving around your shiny overpowered premium tub....

@@mpetersen6 That's why I mentioned the clan tag of the FDR in the video. Yoboy is a competitive clan which kinda leads me to expect that guy knows how to handle FDR.

Same. I kept getting torpd in my bs and dds so I just uninstalled

Well u can always come to wows legends

@@lordredlead2336 that's sadly about to get carriers too

And watch how those precious cv players get hard counters by the subs. I know I will get a sub just mess with CVs

Ah yes the "nerf everything that is not russian" conspiracy

@@codename1176 My guy, you could also do the 899 Squad. A tier 8 premium CV and 2 BBs, preferably Musashis. Your Squad CV spots the enemy CV, both BBs get the satisfaction of ramming 18.1 Inches up the CV's holes. This tactic also work with Tier Xs. Get a Tier X CV and 2 BBs, Shikishimas preferred.

@@danishrahim8669 1 it only works VS potatoes 2 it isnt nearly as effective on armored carriers since you rely on the overmatch to actually damage them and 3 the reason why 8/9/9 works is because its paring one of the dumbest tier 9 BBs X2 with a CV, AKA the whole comp is built on raw power in which case you could apply that to anything broken or OP and get similar results by being able to roll the enemy team before the CV does. there is a long time of flight on those shells if a CV is half paying attention to his map he wont get hit.

They have to cater to the lowest common DUH-nominator

Annoying is what it was

I thought it was Akizuki chattering the first time.

Mad as a box of frogs apparently likes the somewhat cat-like noises of weeaboo captains.

In 2021 it will be time for the final -dodge- deinstall, I guess.

@@memyshelfandeye318 Absolutely. (°T)....I am already packing my things.WOWS is in for the "No-Remorse-No-Regrets-Ex-treatment"!

In other news: Ship turns to make the best target possible for bombers to hit, somehow catches all the bombs!

Shhh... quiet down. Just work in the mines. You don't wanna want to hear a shotgun cocking.

@@xtrariceplease what???

@@anticlaassic you must be new here.

I think it's a trap... He got the part about tier IX French DD right... Who are you and what have you down with the actual Jingles?

Click clack.

Or. Now hear me out. CV Rework 2: Electric Bogaloo

@@gavinhoffman3450 You must be quite the masochist. Also. Do you really trust WG to make a balanced are reasonable rework? When they say that this atrocious crime against humanity was a succes for them.

@john smith Russians cant do any sort of games. I mean look at WoT.

It would make more of a statement if they didn't play CV as well as changing the names. If you play CB's then you will run into them playing the FDR. Guess winning with the most broken CV is more important.

@@llljustcallhimdave some of them tried for a long time, they failed

the scariest thing i can think of is a ginger CV player

As a soulless cv player I resemble thar remark :-)

As a ginger I'm deeply offended and consider buying a CV now.

Hey, as a ginger, I resent being called a CV player!!!

Pretty sure it's a fact that CV players are Teemo mains in League of Legends and spam Techies in Dota 2.

That right there is fucking retarded. 215?! How much bullplop can you take. Game has become a fucking joke.

@Stavros Stamelos Huh? In real life the Essex class carried about 90 planes, and the poster said it was a double CV game. 215 sounds pretty reasonable, by that standard. And I'm sure many were fighters. After all, real life DDs would usually carry 1 torpedo reload at most, but no one complains... Imho they should scale back the alpha strike of some CVs. Taking some damage and fires is fine, more of a nuisance really, but double/triple citadels by German and IJN CVs are a bit too much, especially since in real life it took an ungodly amount of ordnance to sink Musashi and Yamato, for instance.

@Stavros Stamelos Sure, but it's reasonable for an arcade game. Would the Jean Bart really fire full salvoes every 23 seconds (or 12, occasionally), had she been completed? No, but we suspend our disbelief.

@@landochabod7 I think it would be much better to either give them a hard cap on their aircraft, since the Kaga only carried 72 ready aircraft, and the GZ only had 42 or Reduce the replenishment rate on aircraft drastically

@@zetagundam12 But why? They do about the same damage as a BB of the same tier, so that's not really the problem.

Jingles buchered his name like it was nothing :D. Nothing new here.

@@mihaildimitrov1149 So next time he'll be referred to as "Dave"...

@@cogidubnus1953 don't get me wrong. I love what the old sailor does!

Absolutely correct comment from Nick. Jingles should read this 😁

oh, i thought your name was Nico Bellic

Or if they're alt accounts of Wargaming employees.

Well yeah and i can explain why - Jingles examples proves there's issues with CVs but not the class as a whole, FDR shouldn't exists as its HP planes are to much and that double CV games shouldn't exists, most CV players agree with this however the Oland against just one CV would have been a completely different story. Cv should have their fires extended and fighter consumables shouldnt be able to spot as it promotes lazy gameplay on CV sides. - Submarines...why not? why not add more variety into the game? were submarines not in ww2? i would like to play them in WOW, maybe it will be the submarines that will be the main counter to CVs? - Peurto Rico, we all know that was a disaster but Odin and anchorage dockyards have been relatively easy - WG are pretty good with the education side and pay their respects to those in WW1,2, do a lot more than other gaming companies - Soviet ships - like the fact that majority of the ships are paper ships? there's certain Russian ships that are questionable so Russian biases...possibly - xmas containers pretty clear evidence that there is some riggory going on there, as everyone is getting the same ships with around one ach random one. there's pros and cons to everything.

It's a lack of the ability to conceptualize the problem. It's also an us vs them sentiment where many players blame CV players instead of blaming WG and comizerating with CV players.

Also WG has offered refunds for the xmas containers if you are not happy so........?

@@kieran3507 See the difference between you and those people is that youre willing to acknowledge that some things need work, and that there are downsides. The general argument in favour of CVs tends to be a combination of gitgud and "I do fine with it, what do you mean people hate playing against it" PR was just "haha what do you think, WG is a charity?" I think a more serious complaint about CVs is that AA on most ships is not a counter to planes. Like, you can be in a DM with dfaa and a MVR is still going to chunk you for a quarter of your health. The problem is that theres no dodging 200kt flying cruisers. I admit that this does overlook the Ikea DDs though since they are definitely an anomaly in terms of AA power. In summary, people hate playing against CV because theres not much you can do against them. On the topic of subs, gotta push back on you there, the main problem subs have is that they dont do anything but punish aggressive play. As of the latest iteration they are most effective against BBs pushing into objectives without a screen of DDs and cruisers. Not to mention they can meme cruisers and DDs with the MK.48s theyre running. Its basically the CV problem, where in order to kill a sub, he needs to either screw up and get nuked, or you need to sail over it in a DD while dodging enemy fire, and the homing torps

@ Benna Bobby SHH don't let wargaming hear that! If they do they'll put carriers in there in about 2 days!

I'm sorry to say this, but CVs come to Legends early next year. They even released a tiny teaser on the official Discord.

@@Niceday187 oh for fucks sake

@@isdrevenge8764 my thoughts exactly

Maybe a separate mode for Subs? e.g a battle that pits surface vessels on one side against subs on the other. Surface vessels have no hope in defending against CV's, dodging other surface vessels AND avoiding subs, let alone hunting them.

?! No?!

Ew you're one of those people

@@asiftalpur3758 everytime i get a bling! sunk ribbon a demon like me gets his wings. lol. jingles video's and others are quite helpful. tactics have been developed to counter or enhance deployments. Anyway yes...I'm a toxic Cv player but there worst ones out there.

@@Primeslayer1 I don't really care what you do mate as long as you're having fun, I'm not even a war gaming customer, I stopped playing their trash in 2016 and switched to war thunder. I just come back time to time to see what a dumpster fire this game and wot has turned into. I like people like you, because you're nailing in the coffin.

@@asiftalpur3758 War thunder good... haven' t played it in ages..

Picture of GK with 5 fires and a flood hanging on a wall in the background.

They have a50% win rate, the stats prove it.