This is such a stellar review - so much more than just another “I’m going to play a screen recording of me bumbling around the different apps” that are so prevalent right now. Love the thoughts, insights and rapid fire editing - easily 30 minutes of information in a nice tidy 10!
Spot on. Apple at the moment, gained the lead for AR & Meta for mixed VR/AR with price. Whoever can produce the AVP in a basic glasses form factor at the price of a phone _wins_ 🤓
Fantastic video! Especially the part where you point out that the splatter in Fruit Ninja went onto your walls, your couch and even your cat that had only just arrived. Thank you for being so observant and making such intelligent points overall.
Thanks for watching! That’s why it’s never a good idea to rush a review in the first day - there’s too much that will be missed! I’m still exploring and discovering even more
I think everyone knows that the AVP is better than the Quest 3. The contention is whether it's $3000 better. For just being a slightly better experience and working/looking a bit better, it feels like answer is a resounding "No" for a vast majority of the people.
Apple has planted a flag on Mars saying “This is what a great XR experience is like, price not an object”. It’ll make all other manufacturers compete harder. Competition for the crown is very good for all of us!
@@crypticallegoryI really hope the message isn't charge as much as you have to. It's only good for us when it forces prices down and/or innovation up. Charging a premium for incremental improvement is not something I would support.
The one aspect no one is talking about is the social aspect. It's lonely in the vision prep. There is no community in there. No hub where users can interact with each and just share in VR experiences. I'm so for a good headset, but at this stage it's still lacking some basic features that I feel, for $4000, should not be looked over
No. Even if facebook brings out a device with same specs. A lot of video editing or photo edting and music editing programs allready excist for Apple devices! Facebook doesn't have adobe support (most professionals use it for their real job) facebook hasn't got decent programs for professional work..Facebook can't use the google play store apps. All apps available on Apple store are available for the vision. So facebook needs to invest or buy out yet again developers who can make it possible and compete with adobe. Never gonna work. Facebook wasted so much on horizon worlds they forgot what adults want. But i guess kids are the main audience for quest.
I'm surprised they didn't attempt a much more expensive device that does the same things. A new Quest Pro with 4k per eye and the new snapdragon chips could possibly do the same things. I also think they missed the mark with eye tracking. Even before the Apple Vision Pro came out, I thought that would be awesome if they set that up for the interface. Not sure why they didn't.
@@megadeuce-b7c as i said NO!! EVEN a facebook vr device 5 times better as vision pro wich can run professional software but none excist is doomed for succes. The quest pro was only a pro device connected to a Windows pc where the professional programs are available.
@@megadeuce-b7cif you don't have professional software it's no use to come with quest tripple x pro. Facebook don't own or work together professional software developers. Facebook and Adobe?
As an Apple freak, but nonetheless a computer guy working on many platforms, I don’t see why they would not be able to compete, and give people more affordable and with similar functionalities, but as usual the devil is in the details And there will be always some customers ready to pays more for a more polished product For sure, you need a lot of money to compete in this segment, the R&D is very expensive on these field And what about Samsung ? I see them starting the photocopiers :)
I can barely stop wearing my VP. I take it to work and I’m still amazed at how I’m watching basketball and on safari but nobody can see what I can see, but I can still see them and get work done. I cannot stop!!!
@@DiscoVRTetiana The future looks bright! lol. Remember, the VP will only get better from here. We also know that Apple will go all in, this is not a one and done device. This will become a real thing in people’s lives
@@Zaraien You could take that stance about nearly anything. Why get excited about a brand new Mercedes Benz when a beaten down Hyundai has been riding on the road for years? By your logic
So do you think Quest 3 should have passthrough enabled by default and guardian turned off by default? Loke, thatd be easy, but people move around immersed a LOT more in quest 3 than AVP. The only immersed experiences are movies. I think people sit and watch movies in AVP, or just display them as status/lifestyle symbols. No moving around.
Excellent video! Thanks for creating this and sharing with everyone. I’m especially impressed with how the bar has been raised with this headset: the way it scans your room in the background (no fussy room setup needed), and how it literally adapts the sound of your voice depending on the virtual environment you’re in (that blew my mind… I’ve never experienced that from any other headset). This is the way!
I must say that I really enjoyed this review. I’m a huge Apple fan and have had many Apple products since the mid 90’s but I’m just a tech fan in general. I never much considered VR for more than occasional gaming as I had only tried the PlayStation VR a few times but since Apple released the Vision Pro it has really peeked my interest so I went a head and purchased a Quest 3 recently to dip my toe in VR gaming and I’ve really enjoyed the experience and I hope that these companies can all push one another to lower costs and perfect this awesome tech.
To me: Everything that Quest 3 does not do, it can be justified by the PRICE, in contrast, ALL that Apple Vision Pro does not do or do it wrong, it can't be justified by "Oh it's just the first gen" because of the PRiCE. And only to mention a Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro in the same video, doesn't makes any sense to me, because are totally different products, totally different cosummer targets, and MOST OF ALL, absurd huge different PRICES. It´s like to compare Quest 3 against VARJO XR4 top of the line at $9900. Totally different targets, totally different markets.
Ok, yes, I am already on Team Apple…. And I was blown away by the AVP….. your comment at the beginning always seems to sum up how Apple typically wins…. Not by the sum of its parts, but of the “whole” of how it all works together and makes you FEEL. I THINK Quest 3 is pretty amazing piece of tech….. but I’m not a gamer, so I wasn’t drawn to it…. I am so happy for the competition between eta and Apple and others, to keep pushing the boundaries! Look forward to more of your videos! Thanks!
Great video. You are doing it better and better 💪 About vision pro... Besides FOV, I would say they could wait a little more till WiFi 7 release. It would be great burst for the future when you can really connect it by WiFi to your PC with steam for example and use it with the best quality like it is with Display port. WiFi 6 is not gonna be enough for such a resolution. I know that there is an eye tracking, but it is not always can be used in any scenarios
As soon as Apple releases their improved version for less & Meta releases their new headsets, AVP's will be relegated to the display shelf on the wall.
Hey make a vid you could let your fans know that you can get good discounts on VERY lightly used apple vision pros on ebay these days. Saw one go recently for 2600 with a bunch of (apple priced) accessories.
I wouldn’t expect this. I own a Meta Quest Pro. This headset is a desaster. Integrated eye tracking is worthless. Even the UI did not use it. Meta has not enough money to compete with Apple.
Well thought out and effectively presented view point. I agree with most of what you said, and I appreciate the way you expressed it. 👍🏾 thanks for sharing your journey 👊🏾
@@DiscoVRTetiana One of the things missing on the AVP is definitely the haptics. That truly is the piece that gives your brain the final connection and feelings as if you really touched something. Even in Synth Riders its a great game on AVP but that little bit of haptics makes it better and more immersive on the Quest 3
This part: “You feel like this is not just an entertainment device but your *personal* device, that serves *you*” This is the most profound comment I have heard someone say yet about this device. I’ve been doing VR for almost 3 years now, following all of the hardware, inns and outs, etc., and like many people anticipating this launch to see what it would be. So as your first comment pinned at the top of notes, your review is far more nuanced Than others. There’s lots of comparisons about speed and clarity and storage, etc. battery life and so on. But who is it for? What does it do - and I mean in terms of transformation of a persons daily life or actions or workflow. And everyone who has review this has noted that the headset is not for them, they can already get what they get out of it in things like meta-quest 3, etc. But they’re missing this point that you make in this quote, above. That Apple has developed a device that feels like it belongs to YOU. As you put it, it *serves* you. Not one other headset out there could even come close to trying to make that claim. The absurdities of a pi-Max. The political conundrums of pico. The weird laissez faire of the valve index. And so on. Apple knew this. They exploited this. And, like most of their marketing psychology, they married the product to a lifestyle. They are, whether we like it or not, great at pushing inescapable messaging of “we know you can’t afford this but look what it could do to your life (i.e. Phone, maybe even more so AppleWatch?)IF you DID have this. Just the press on this this past week has been utterly amazing in its own right. Phew. So I think you nailed it. Apple has discovered an intimate, wearable device, one that feels like you run it not it runs you. Creepy.
What an amazing input, thanks for giving this video (and this product overall) such deep thought. Indeed, I agree that Apple did something very different with Vision Pro from what we’ve seen in the market. I’m excited to see the future generations of this product. Again, thanks for such extensive input!
What??? All these reviews are brilliant from their different perspectives. Each review brought its own set of nuanced opinions & experiences for us, the viewers. None were "better" than the others, just different. Mkbhd has by far done the best technical review because that's his forte. This review lacked a host of critical technical points but did a wonderful user experience breakdown.
There are fans that are blowing inside the lenses so there’s no fit or condensation. I haven’t used it for fitness to gauge how it deals with sweat yet but the fans are pretty strong, haven’t noticed any issues with fog but my eyes do get dried out a bit when they’re blowing hard
As someone who is very invested in the Apple ecosystem I still have a hard time seeing the use case for this product. I have the iPhone, watch, MacBook, iMac, and Apple TV and I’m not even tempted to buy this device. I’ll stick with the quest 3 for gaming and occasional AR tv browsing. Unless it can replace my quest 3 for gaming, my tv for entertainment, and my desktop for productivity I don’t see the value yet. But hopefully it pushes other companies like meta to improve and expand
“ unless it can replace my quest three for gaming*, my TV for entertainment, and my desktop for productivity, I don’t see the value”. Um… that’s exactly what it does. Exactly what it does. In fact it allows you to do all three. At the same time. Pretty much anywhere. (* this week being fairly easily modded for use in PCVR gaming, tho currently still only on macs running macOS. But geeze that’s Promising, and not bad for just being launched. So that, for me, arguably, it dispenses the whole “Well, Apple has no games” argument that’s so quickly deployed. )
You’re right it can do all 3 just not as well as my quest 3, tv, and desktop pc. It has to be good enough to make me pick that over my other devices which I don’t see it doing anytime soon. Mac has notoriously never been meant for serious gaming so I don’t see them ever making it easy to play pcvr games on it but who knows maybe they will prove me wrong
Huh... So a device that is almost 8 times the price of the current market leader is more advanced? Where is my shocked face... It's around here somewhere... dang it, I just had it...
You should post this on a site where the RU-vidr tries to say that the quest is the same thing. Disco actually took the time to show what the actual real world experience difference is. It's a great way to approach a review.
Agree. If it was up to facebook vr owners. The quest2 should be the best device for the next 10 years bahahaha. Seems quest owners don't want vr to grow. But just like to watch review video's which say their device is still the best(without even try it themself, influencers slaves). We can say kids quest comments are killing vr developement. Don't be scared kids Apple isn't taking gorilla tag away from you. I hate people who feel a brand attack like a personal attack. Did you invent the device or just bought it. Don't know eho arr worse Apple fanboys or facebook fanboys. Atleast Apple isn't in it for collecting data. Facebook needs your personal data to survive.
Besides that, I dont get the Fuzz. It's like they never have seen a VR floating window before. I use vrdesktop for years and people think Apple invented VR now
@@Zaraien Maybe you should try it. They didn't invent it but they made the best device to get into it, hands down. I typically do t like Apple users that think everything thing they make is the best, when in general thats absolutely not the case. However, in this instance, this is the best. If it launched with the ability to play VR games or wirelessly connect to a gaming PC,.I would sell all of my other headsets because I would NEVER use them again. The good news is that everyone else will now have to step their game up.
@@Zaraien ok but you use pcvr. You need a pc and headset. This is all on one. So real standalone instead of android vr standalone. All vr veterans know this for years. The quest needs a pc to be the same but with worse vr hardware. This is just best available vr headset till today. If steam vr could run on it it will be the end of facebook.
Love the video and agree with everything said. I still think, as most VR companies have figured out, they'll need to find a way to get something into the general public's hands. The price point is definitely not entry level for most people.
@@DiscoVRTetiana I needed to know eye fatigue, and between you and OASIS Mike on the FReality podcast I had conclusion I could use this to replace many of the things I do on my iPad Pro.
For those in the Apple ecosystem it’s (most of) the ecosystem augmented into your physical space, for those outside the ecosystem, nothing really, it’d just be a peak at what devices will look like a few years from now, now that Apple has propositioned where the market should go.
I’ve asked this in several different places, but is this the new version of the “Home Computer Wars” that existed between PC/Microsoft and Mac(Apple) 30ish years ago? Now it’s the “Consumer Headset Wars” between Meta/XR and Apple/Spatial Computing, and once again, with equally different philosophical technological and consumer use ideas. By the way, if that even only somewhat true-ish, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. As much snakiness as has been cast at Apple for the semantics that is Spatial Computing vs XR (by me too BTW), there is legitimately an argument for being able to figure out different kinds of solutions for problems when you began from a fundamentally different philosophical perspective. If Meta and XR approach things “this way” and build towards **that** (regardless of what “that” is) and Apple builds with a Spacial Computing philosophy, trying to accomplish their *“that”*… I see us the consumer who ultimately wins, and both philosophies in the end make everything better.
Yes but that’s a limit on Mac windows, you can still add multiple windows from Vision Pro itself. If there’s a limit to then, I haven’t been able to reach it yet 🙀
Tatiana. You are buy far the best reviewer out there . Miles ahead of the others. The information the way the video's are done the presentation is just amazing. You keep surprising me with how spot on you always deliver the info. Also you hair here is very cute. Apple could have used you as there model for the headset. Thank you for always bringing your A game
@DiscoVRTetiana Ow it really shows. And I know what work has gone in to this amd you work so so fast. Many people may not understand what has to be done to make such a video. Not only filming yourself and have a text but integrating footage and alot more and in that sort time you did it in is mindblowing
did a demo and if quest 3 did not exist, would have gotten vision pro, not worth the price increase. can't do much other than movies, photos and some cheap games.
Really? All I take from this is that it has good eye and handtracking because it is designed to use it solely in this way. But you can only use it to watch at screens floating around you. Which can be beneficial for certain productivity tasks. But then again, it will only last for two hours before the battery drains, so you still have to work with more traditional screens. Maybe there will be apps in the future which will make good use of the technology, but now the difference with just a monitor isn't that great in my opinion.
@@_Arthur- yeah I really like the idea of having it plugged in all the time and using it as an infinite monitor workstation. However I’m not paying that for it. I completely agree it’s not worth the price right now.
@alexfoxleigh9443 this is a nice example how it really would be ahead of its time, instead of just a windows display: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y9FpgxNeWJk.htmlsi=eP_K0DpYMzmzoPwv
Great video. I know this is not a gaming headset, Apple never wanted it to be associated with gaming but I’m confused about whether reviewers think the Vision Pro is a productivity device. Some say absolutely NOT, while others like Branden Bodendorfe released a video that shows it absolutely IS. We can all agree it is a fantastic media consumption device and it’s not a gaming headset so why so many different opinions on whether it’s a capable productivity computer? Edit: thank you as a prominent XR user, for placing the Vision Pro in context. Many reviews did not make comparisons or explain the current state of XR technology. Leaving viewers unsure about where the Vision Pro is relative to the rest of the industry. We know Apple started working on this headset over a DECADE ago. Even though many manufacturers are FIRST to feature something, we’ve seen how simple rumors or Apple filing patents started other manufacturers creating that feature. It’s a chicken or egg thing.
Until Apple Vision Pro gets google chrome and google password manager the majority will get frustrated using only safari. I have an iPhone and Mac safari is not as good as chrome. Plus a lot of people are forgetting the fact that the strap is very basic for long sessions. I think bobo vr need to make a nice halo strap for the AVP! Not that they should have to considering the avp price tag 😅
My fear is that Apple will do what they do with their phones and computers, which is close the ecosystem and nothing outside of Apple will be compatible. I know it's not a gaming device, but I fear if they allowed it to be or made a proper gaming device, there wouldn't be cross play with other devices. You'd have to buy the apple product. I wish they would realize that just divides people.
Knowing that it's the very worst Vision Pro that Apple will have ever made (being the first one), I'm super excited for the future! Thank you so much for the excellent review!
wow Tatiana, that was one of the best vision pro reviews I've watched! now I understand what you meant on the MRTV podcast this looks like my wallet is going to get massacred, oh wait i'm not in the Mac OS ecosystem thank goodness. But hopefully Samsung and Google will come close in the near future on their collaboration on their upcoming headset .
The best review I've seen so far. Probably the possibility of reproducing the movements so faithfully and naturally is due to the management made by M2 and R1. Quest 3 and Pico4 in my opinion are unable to achieve such fidelity due to the unique management given by one processor. Personally, Apple's decision to use an external battery is now clear to me (it could have been done/managed in another way). I own a Quest 3 and I have to say it's amazing but APV seems to be at a higher level but not insurmountable and perhaps achievable with new products of Meta.
The big caveat is that unlike Apple with its ecosystem to prop it up, meta will not have that universality, it will be reliant on integrations of other people’s systems (Google, Microsoft) which means even if they get the polish right, it may still feel inadequate comparatively.
I think people don't understand just how advance Apple's tracking. The very fact they are able to track your hands, and then cut them into any scene, means the are doing more than just skeletal kinematics, which is what more VR devices are doing. People have talking about how Apple is less advanced, because it doesn't have a guardian, but the reality is the guardian is training wheels for what Apple is doing. Apple knows where your environment is, and when you started to get too close to it, and your vision is occluded by a scene, it warns you. This means Apple is constantly doing object detection both for you and your environment. Like Apple has seriously powerful AI on display here, and the reason people don't think about it is that's so good that it doesn't get in the way.
Good points! And that’s the thing, it HAS the guardian, it just doesn’t show you when it’s sets it up, but it scans your entire environment. And it does give you warnings. It’s amazing
@@DiscoVRTetiana ikr, I was watching Too Fun Maverick in my living room, I picked the virtual screen up with my two fingers, walked upstairs to my bedroom, made the screen larger then turned a dial and was in a another world. No guardian warnings, the headset just told me when I was close to the wall, no resetting my position, no taking the headset off......The experience makes everything else look like a Fischer Price to. I actually envy anyone that's just getting into this , having not suffered through the years of emerging VR devices. It's so crazy.
@@DiscoVRTetiana What I mean is that it doesn't have a guardian in the sense it doesn't have this program where you define what is and isn't open space. Thus I'm calling the user defined guardian, training wheels. The headset itself is aware of what's out there, and is monitoring the situation without you having to define it.
The next Supervision Pro for $20000 will have a gold plated instruction manual and a $10 game voucher included with unlimited access to 5 game library and a 30 day warranty
@@crypticallegory I doubt that Apple will actually make another VR I just hope that their next phone will have something more than a larger battery and a new chip
I do not understand comparison to quest 3. This thing cost 3 times price with 2 hour battery. I mean $3500 an you can't install better battery apple. The platform should be on another level. I do believe there will be some subscriptions down line for this headset. I am sure meta could do same but who in there right mind with bills and family would throw money away on this. Most people bills month not $3500. The price needs to be $1500 or under for average consumer to really consider it an that's even a stretch.
This is going to be the start of taking people away from reality. Losing complete touch of reality and that's not a good thing for humanity. Especially when it comes to families and relationships. It will change everything about us.
In my case, it could actually bring my family together. All my family live in Ukraine, I haven’t seen my dad and my brother in over 2 years. I would give so much for the to have the tech that would allow us to feel like we’re in the same room together. I highly recommend you watch my video of 3d digital personas with AVP I posted yesterday 🙌
Why didnt you talk about the experience of playing fruit ninja? Its the primiere launch game why did you seem so dismissive? Do you have a synth riders avp review out?
Its so irresponsible showing people driving while wearing a Apple Vision Pro using hand tracking and not having their hands on the steering wheel. Even though its a self driving car, it could malfunction and you could lose power to your headset. Does Apple support and encourage this practice?
...no? The footage was shown as a b-roll to demo the "dystopian future scenario" which by definition means it is not encouraged. The actual video has no reference to self driving cars whatsoever... Did you watch my video on mute or have you watched only the first 10 secs before leaving a comment?
Better than buying things separately and ordering them from different countries or website up to $4,000 plus taxes and multiple shipping cost just to drill a holes and be tangled on cable along with desktop pc
But you still need the iPhone which cost money. If you want to truly be productive you need to connect to your MacBook which cost money. It has its own cable built right in to get tangled up. Don't get me wrong. It's is a fantastic piece of hardware. But it's just not for the mass market. It's for people with a shit ton of extra disposable income or tech reviewers who can justify the purchase as a business decision. I'll settle for the quest 3 and work with the somewhat clunky UX for 15% of the price until the Apple Vision Regular hits the market in 18 months. I'll still be able to do just about everything pro users can do, plus I can play actual VR games without an additional MacBook or PC. But for those who can justify the cost, enjoy. It's great tech.
I tried it and I wasn't a huge fan. The screen and tracking was amazing. It's cool that you don't have to create boundaries and meshes, the spatial video looked great but I can't imagine spending $3500. On it. It was kinda boring to me. Anyone can fix problems by throwing a ton of cash at it but I would like to see the issues we have fixed for everyday people. Not just millionaires.
I disagree, I can easily afford it but I wouldn't because 1st it's an Apple product and 2nd because it's an Apple product! .it might have a pair of incredible oled screens but but so what? It hasn't got controllers so no haptic feedback, a big no no. Hope the fee for the review was worried....
Quite few others have already said it, but you, Tetiana, are one of the best reviewers in VR media. Your ability to take a review beyond simply "how well it works (or doesn't)", and into the realm of what "how well it works" can mean for us on both the small and large scale, is both a breath of fresh air and a welcome call to *think* about what all this can mean to us as individuals and as "community". Awesome review/discussion, not just on Apple's Vision Pro, but on Apple's long-time focus on changing how we do life--hopefully for the better. Though I have never owned, nor plan to own any Apple products (at this point at least, and despite how cool the AVP sounds), I nevertheless am quite excited by what their entry into the alphabet soup that is currently Virtuality can and will mean--and some of that, at least, is because of how VR-oriented RU-vidrs like you and Thrillseeker look beyond "how it works". Thank you!
That's such a high praise, thank you. This review took a lot of work - structuring, breaking it down and ultimately synthesizing it in a way that makes sense, and I really appreciate you comment. I'm glad you watched the video even though you are not planning on owning an Apple product (do you own a Quest btw?) because indeed, this device will go way beyond just niche Apple owners. It might transform the entire XR industry as we know it! Especially considering it's only a 1st get device. Again, thank you for supporting :)
@@DiscoVRTetiana, yes, I own a Quest 3 (excellent headset!)... and a Pico 4... and the PSVR2. And I still have my old Oculus Go, because there are a couple of "shovelware" games on it that I really enjoy that didn't transfer over to the Quest 1. My credit card is now merely sniffling sadly over the PSVR2, instead of full-out sobbing, but I'm still glad I got it. At the moment, my headsets are doing little more than serving as a very expensive "toy" collection: I'm the sole caretaker of 3 of my 4 closest relatives, so daily-use--and sometimes weekly-use--has been impossible. Last year was beastly for them on the health front, but thankfully, this year has been a little less "exciting", so I'm hoping to get back into VR more regularly again. That's one of the main reasons I enjoy VR creators like you, Thrillseeker, The Mysticle (who likes doing the occasional bit of headset hacking, which I find very interesting), and Steve of VRFlightGuy, who soooo enjoys his flight sims, and offers excellent "how-to's": it gives me a chance to enjoy VR vicariously when I just don't have time to slip on a headset, thanks to Real Life. I appreciate seeing everyone's enthusiasm, and it's good to get a sense of the what the future may hold, thanks to "VR" for good or... problematic. (Also love Sebastian's enthusiasm, and all his guests on his "Next Dimension" Podcasts). I'll be keeping and eye on Apple's progress, and who knows? The day may come when my credit card and/or bank account won't threaten to commit suicide if I try to buy whatever model might be available! 😂 Like you--and as I've argued in more than one comments section--I may not be any version of an Apple "fangirl", but I've been around and seen enough of Apple to know that, if the AVP is even somewhat successful, they will make "VR" do things most of us can now only vaguely imagine.
Too much positive cuz its still a heavy device and thats the killer for all headsets.Its not intuitive for 3900 dollar having flat windows or symbols in vr.Its the same that we already have but worde.The only thing thats better ist the habdracking and the eyetracking and the display.so..its more like a device we alreay have.Its just better hardware that Apple user wanna pay but for sure most people dont cuz its still a pressing thing on yor face.Honestly its a poor start from Apple after all these years.Integration in other Apple Products maybe ok but advertising made it thats what it is now and its just mediocre.i am sure i would rather sit in my bed and type with faxebook while my wife sleeps next to me than wearing ut in my bed while talking to siri.
At least it beats other competition in specs/techs at released and probably will last 3 years at least. No extra stuff you needed to buy nor drilling holes requirement what the price they showed is everything you need.
For a video titled 'review', not terribly good. Focused on everything positive but glossed over and dismissed everything negative. Came across as quite biased and unhelpful.
