in a weird way, i think it’s comforting knowing that a billion-dollar company goes through the same customer service process as any other youtuber. we may not all be treated equally well, but it’s still cool to know we’re all treated equally like shit. 💀
I don't understand how easy it is to copyright strike and take down videos...??? It's like anybody can do that without even having the right to do it and you lose momentum and a lot of views, and ultimately, a lot of money if someone just decides to that he or she wants to take down your content. Makes absolutely no sense.
@@lajeandom anyone can do it. does not mean they have a right to do it or will have proof that its legit. they have to take every claim as fact till they prove its not or they can get repercussion from those legit claims that get through. youtube is so understaffed and soaking up all the money they dont have people to make sure each claim is legit.
I can't stres how much this guy is like a real life joker this man is. “All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.”
@@Adam.Clark. both are straight up in the wrong. And although there as bad stuff, nothing illegal until after he cracked. Not sure why you are defending the joker though, he has killed millions
yeah there are way too many instances of this happening for all kinds of content. maybe a fat ass lawsuit will be incentive for them to fix the issue, but I doubt it
He broke RU-vid's rules, got warned, kept breaking rules, got banned, and decided to take it out on...a different company and innocent content creators? What a terrible villain arc
@@ReservedSpot never said he was cool. Just saying he was good at what he did or else he wouldn't have affected that many lives. And he probably didn't use VPN because he wanted to be known. You just can't read is all.
What this guy did was objectively bad, but holy shit. Imagine being sued for 7mil. Even being sued for like 500k would fuck a regular person up but there is literally no way for him to get that kind of money. It would legit be better for him to spend like 10 years in jail or better for the world if he spent like 10 years in community service.
Ngl the 7 million is a bit deserved, nazo copyright NINETY-SIX videos, that is quite a lot of lose viewer and even worse yet is dragging Bungie name throught the mud
This is one of those rare times that siding with Bungie, a multi billion dollar company, in the process of suing someone is actually seen as a good thing.
I always find it tough to side with mega corporations, so for this one I think I'll just be an impartial observer. Can't really defend the actions of the wanker who filed 96 fraudulent DMCA notices, but I find it just as hard to cheer for some faceless business to ruin his life.
@@jornavyr2459 yeah well at least being an impartial observer is better than the usual “hate both sides for being faceless mega corps” thing. Y’all remember when epic sued apple when epic was the one who broke the contract and all these brainlits were like “oh epic. Go epic” when both were hyper evil megacorps? That was funny.
I don't think it can be overstated just how much something like this needed to happen. Google has basically achieved Umbrella Co. levels of sketchy, and only another company had the ability (read: money) to take them to court on even ground. Kinda strange that dude decided to play Get Smart, but I'm not gonna be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth.
out of all the million dollar gaming companies in this world, it feels empowering to know that Bungie is the one that relates to the common goober the most.
Hey why did you delete your Discord server that one time? I really enjoyed it. Also Kaya literally says he thinks Furries cause dog rape which is kinda disgusting. My sister is a Furry and she is underaged!
The fact that a million dollar gamer household name like Bungie had to go through customer service like the rest of us is hysterical and maybe what weve needed all along, YT so powerful that not one single company can go at them alone, let alone go at google. I feel like this is still the beginning....or the end of a phase
Shouldn't that be the case, though? Everyone always seems to be complaining about preferential treatment for those that have money and power and then somehow those same people call it a failure when an entity with money and power is treated the same as everyone else.
@@Beatyofeet32 too blind to see their hypocrisy. youtube monetization as a whole is unfair, its just funny they pay so little mind to anyone. nobody can really make them care, so its weird to assume they would. less work = more money.
@@Beatyofeet32 no the case should be that RU-vid improves their customer service and fix their broken system, but Google controls the flow of information on behalf of the existing liberal regime so don’t expect any sort of action to be taken against them
Not even two minutes in, I understood what' s this story was about, and that I already knew everything about it.... Yet. I stayed for the rest of the video, because your spin of it was refreshing, mysterious, and well made, it definitely felt like a take of the situation I never saw before, wd and keep on!
There is another similar thing happening for years now: There is this weird Australian band that put the entire Super Metroid main menu music as the background for one of their songs and put that on the content ID system. So every person that is playing the game and shows more than a few seconds of main menu music risks getting their ad revenue chopped... Oh and not so fun fact about that: The big video that brought light to the issue got taken down via copyright strike from the company that represents the band.....
As awful as this is, it really just shows how terrible RU-vids copyright system is, that it can ruin hundreds of lives and even an entire company over one angry guy. Reminds me of quantum tv, and yet RU-vid still sits there with their hand up their ass doing nothing. Pathetic
Best is they never do anything to solve real problems , guys making death threats, recording themselves with guns and actually harrasing people, they will hit you with the ' this doesn't infringe RU-vid policies " you can upload a dead person and RU-vid will put it on trendin_ is pathetic
I’m so glad bungie actually faces problems, first they attack and take down cheats and people who make cheats, and now this. I respect bungie actually putting their foot down when other companies wouldn’t do shit
They ought to sue RU-vid themselves. All they'd need to do is show that RU-vid is purposefully nebulous and ineffective with their systems in pursuit of greater profits, which in turn caused bungie damages - which a reasonable person could foresee happening in this way given RU-vids operational practices.
suing google is not the way to go when it comes to this situation, however it would be so nice if youtube had a reformation, it really is getting old with the bs but they can keep it going with the broken system because no other platform can (or is willing to) do what youtube does
@@Ayuima69 which will happen by its own when? you need to apply some pressure to this behemoth of a platform and it's owners/rules to finally not ignore the problems and as you said, atleast improving their systems
@@Ayuima69 I just want RU-vid to be a little bit more open on what problems they are solving, or what their process is. At least the rest of us would be a little bit more reassured that something is actually happening. Instead of silence then update.
5:00 Oh my god yes! I had an issue with my Pixel phone and it was pretty obvious there wasn't a human on the other end of the connection, just Google's AI pumping out search results.
Hey penguin, do you mind telling me where you got your fireplace heater that's behind your chair? Love the blue flames and the one I've had for about 10 years finally STB. Thanks!
My favorite part is that the emails he used to create the fake accounts were also found on one of the cheat sites Bungie sued for making cheats. So this guy was one of the cheaters playing Destiny as well.
@@giwdul5511 honestly that bot is nothing and I'd take that all day long compared to the terrible shit the other ones spew all over every fucking video
As if it wasn't bad enough that he would've gotten shunned by the community and his friends, he also now has to pay 8 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS... Imagine explaining that to his wife/girlfriend/parents 😭
Well, a recent lawsuit taught me that what you sue for isn't necessarily what you get. But even if this is reduced to 1 or 2 million, that bully's life is over, and deservedly so. I hope that this suit will go through and Bungie wins, so that in the future stuff like this won't happen anymore. It'd make RU-vid a more friendly place to be, because I'd be hugely surprised if this was the only anger-revenge-butthurt takedown troll.
a minor inconvenience a temporary hiccup, bungie themselves have caused more fear for these content creators careers than some guy filing copyright strikes when youtube falsely does them all the time.. bungie took this guys life away becuase they’re a broke company trying to get money wherever they can.. yes what he did was bad but 7 million fucking dollars are you serious?!!! what assets and resources did they spend to remedy this problem? NONE! they wrote a fucking email to youtube that’s it.
The fact that RU-vid couldn’t help a massive company, aka the main demographic that RU-vid serves, just goes to show they are not only money driven, but genuinely incompetent.
If a company says that they’re “doing it for the advertisers” they’re incompetent, if they’re saying they’re “doing it for the community”, they’re money driven.
Im pretty sure youtube doesn't actually net that much profit if any at all. i think the advertising money goes to server upkeep and creators and little to none go to google. They are using it to work on their neural nets and various AI.
I mean it's because there's no legal obligation for RU-vid to do anything about false copyright strikes. All the DMCA/copyright laws require is for hosting sites to respond to the requests within a given time frame and remove the content. People seriously underestimate just how open ended the copyright laws are. Content hosting sites aren't required to ensure the validity of take down requests. They're only required to act upon the requests so long as the requester provides the most basic of information like this guy did and all RU-vid is required to do is say "Yep, the information they gave matches the information of who represents this company's IP rights." and approve the take down.
I came into this without any knowledge of what the situation was and was ready to be pissed at Bungie. After hearing the story, I did a complete 180 and am glad that someone's putting a fraudster like that in their place, especially if they're going to be threatening peoples' livelihoods!
@@Ellie-gp9dg imagine you work for a company just to write one article a week for a living. You do this without issue, and one week, you get accused for plagiarism with no proof, and your company refuses to pay you after the allegations, so you have no money for that week. You also have no way of proving your Innocence cause nobody in the company listens to insignificant people like that. You think missing a week's pay and doing all that work or nothing doesn't affect your livilihood? Now he did this to 50+ of your coworkers. See the issue?
A similar thing happened very recently. A Sea of Thieves youtuber called Phuzzybond had one of his videos taken down by a fake "Microsoft Corporation" account. He said that this has also happened to other people but he's the only one I know of. Thankfully the issue has been resolved by now and the video is back up.
I saw a vid explaining that youtube allows almost anyone to cppyright strike a video because its preventing people from getting sued for making money on their behalf. Except they arent making it any better by not responding to support requests
I would like to remind people that Bungie allows all its creators to do a lot of things.They literally have a rule where 80% of your video could be just their content and then you can just speak random bullshit for the rest 20 % and they will allow it.Thats how much they love their community and by far they have the most flexible creator friendly rules.ALSO the soundtrack that Nazo got banned for is allowed to be played in the backround of videos and for everything,you just cant upload it as a song.This guy could have just added backround gameplay of him dying in pvp and he would be completly fine
Hell one of the people they mention was wrongly struck, Promethean, would take recordings in game of the ost so you got the 15-30 minute experience of it instead of the compressed 4 minute samples in the official OST. And this was allowed. Look at his version of First Disciple vs the one on the official Destiny RU-vid channel, for example
@@m05513 It was also either him or another channel that would take the painstaking time of finding the music in the channel files, which had multiple instrumental files depending on the situation (reaching a certain part of the map, in battle, out of battle, etc), and *pieced them together* so you could listen to the entire song as it was meant to be heard. All for archival purposes, and they loved the game and its music that much.
@@iasomnium919 yeah the destiny OST community is insane like that. And to think this pathetic excuse of a human tried to pass himself off as one of them. He probably would have gotten to keep his uploads with almost no effort too, considering how much is cut from the official OST, but he couldn't even do the bare minimum. 7.6 million is too kind for him.
Been following this since the original takedown wave. One fun fact you missed, once the RU-vidr's name came out, some people in the community started cross-referencing his account with lists of people involved in a large cheating lawsuit. Turns out, he was likely a cheater in Destiny 2. Overall an absolute POS.
@@brandoncook6190 absolutely, yes, it is wrong, no matter how much of a piece of shit the kid is, do they deserve punishment? Yes absolutely, but abduction is too far
My big Q here: why does it take so much for youtubers to get verified, but any random schmuck instantly impersonate a company and fraudyright claim anything on youtube? I feel there should be a verification process for copyright claims
i feel like they should do ID verification or something, seeing as it's a legal process, especially since disputing a strike already doxes the owner of the affected video
@@dopesickdog and more importantly, the side that should have their info shown to the other should be the striker, not the strikee, until the strikee says "I'm not taking down the video, take me to court"
Because lets say you make an album by yourself and dont have a youtube presence or account of any kind, and then you find out someone else is using your content without permission here. How do you prove that you are the real copyright holder in any satisfactory way and get the offenders removed without being stonewalled by the identification process? Its easy to prove you are who you say you are maybe, but harder to prove digitally that you have the authority for the copyright claim. So it has the potential to be just as frustrating on the opposite end for someone being taken advantage of. So the solution is much more complex and theyve opted to make it easier for the strikers than the strikees
I believe there was a clause via bungie that allowed for RU-vid uploads of music for archive purposes but if you don’t label it correctly and note everything like artist, owners etc you will get a copyright strike
I wonder if he was trying to get others accounts removed and then reinstated so that he could then make a case for getting his own account reinstated. It has to be something like that. To make his own removal seem more illegitimate. Why he thought it would work is baffling though. I feel like a whole lot of people live their lives thinking they're always playing 4D chess when really they're barely capable of tic-tac-toe
this is the same energy as the TV reporters who interview strangers about a killing, when it turned out the person they're interviewing is actually the killer all along lol
If you’re interested in watching a good video on the person this is referring to, look up “The Bizarre Case of Stephen McDaniel” by JCS, I watched it before and it’s a great video (yt deleted my comment with a link to the video)
“Bungie went through customer service and didn’t get the issue solved for days” not only does this story show how broken their copyright system is but it shows how incompetent their support system is at the same time. And it’s been this way for a long time already. As for Nick, he simply played with fire and got burned. He also stabbed a lot of people in the back as well, so he’s pretty much getting back the karma he deserves.
yeah RU-vid really needs to get their shit together and change the support system and copyright system. And the sad thing is they might only change it now since it involves a company.
bro he didn't "play with fire" lol he straight committed self-immolation and did a scumbag piece of shit thing after getting mad about his channel being disabled, even tho he was literally doing something against copyright law in the first place (music stuff), and then hurt a bunch of creators who had nothing to do with the situation? definitely getting what he deserved lol
That support Loop exists at Ebay, Amazon, RU-vid, Comcast,,,etc. All the big guys would have to hire 10,000 support employees to answer the amount of phones calls...so what do they do? Send you into a help-page loop for 30 minutes to scare the weak requests out. Then they might give you 1 chat box or 1 temporary phone number (A link you clicked 2 times already now actually gives you real information)...if you miss your chance, they send you back to the loop for 4 hours until your Cooldown resets. You won't find the phone number/email/chat box again in that loop and the previous one is disabled. That link that actually gave you info now redirects to a useless FAQ. There are loopholes though,,,ebay has a support page that always gives you the phone/email number(animal support page (think emergencies))...Comcast phone system sends Buyers straight to the front of the line (tell them you want to Buy/Add service) but once you get a human, tell them your real problem.
Seriously when are companies gonna learn bots just piss me people off I sometimes don’t do business with companies that have bot automatic messages I have to wait 15 seconds just to wait for it to stop talking.
Just, holy hell. After all this time the little guys are getting their revenge, but this time not on their own but with A massive company. Honestly this is well deserved
11:40 I am one of these other music uploaders affected by this mess. I tought Bungie had started a massive crackdown on OST channels, so i removed all of my Destiny 1 AND Destiny 2 music videos... for nothing. They had millions of views.
TBH just about every single support system has this loop problem. Windows help, youtube, roblox, and cash app. Every single support system I've used has the loop problem.
Companies should be fined, per day, for not providing real human customer service. I'm tired of having to go to social media backlash to get some damn customer service.
I feel there's a balance between bot and human interaction, and youtube just went full bot. Getting a bot response can work for a time but it can only do so much. Asking to speak to a real person, or being able to escalate to a real person, should always be an option, bots still can't tell images apart, let alone deal with many of the fake copyright notices. I remember them introducing 'youtube heroes' where you could moderate channels, and my first thought was 'they're so bad at taking care of their own company, they're asking their userbase to do their job for them.
@@JadeAnnabelArt RU-vid doesn't make money, and has a billion minutes of content uploaded daily, how do you plan on paying people to cover that much content? It's not possible and easy to see that if you had any sort of "critical" thinking skills.
@@BudMasta excuse me, did you just say “RU-vid doesn’t make money”? Are you serious? What do you think ads are for? RU-vid makes tons of money (Also they are owned by Google, so they could always get money from there). They can definitely hire a large team of human moderators. And they don’t have to moderate every single minute of every single video, just videos that receive content reports and copyright strikes. Funny how you’re saying that the other person has no critical thinking skills.
It WOULD have been, if he didn't do it in the most foolish way possible, by practically telling them all exactly how he did it step by step under the guise of "I bet you he did it like this". I mean, there's a difference between being able to know the mind of the perpetrator, and somehow knowing every last minute detail of how they committed the crime to an uncanny degree. "So, he was sitting there at his computer, probably just got finished watching a rerun of Rick and Morty, season 2 episode 4, wearing size nine Nikes, with a red and white stripped polo and some gray dickies... but not the knew kind of dickies, the old kind. You know the kind I'm talking about, the ones that had that little strip of stitching across the knee and the extra pocket on the lower left back pant leg? Then he took a drink from his extra large Coca Cola he had gotten from McDonalds about three hours and 23 minutes ago which was kind of starting to go flat and watered down from the melted ice, as he began to open up his Mozilla Firefox browser to pull up RU-vid, which was still out of date two versions because he didn't like some of the new Firefox UI features they had implemented in the previously released version..."
@@katzabar it feels pretty niche in comparison to how mainstream it initially was or to other more well known game franchises, but i guess 1 mil+ sales on a single expansion can't really be considered niche at that point
Fr. All I saw was Datto, Aztecross, and many other Destiny RU-vidrs talking about this. But I was surprised to see moist cover it too(I suppose it's because he is also a Destiny player). But yeah, this case has had a profound effect on not just the Destiny community, but the youtuber community too.
it's not about destiny. BUNGIE has been a big name before destiny. Most people know bungie from Halo more than destiny. It's not really that surprising that one of the largest popular developers is being covered by popular youtubers lol
i agree with the support loop. i tried to reset a password for a google acc and it said "we didnt have enough info try again" when i choose to use an old password same thing like wtf
Would be great if anyone who has ever been unfairly copy right struck could join in on this lawsuit and make it a big class action against RU-vid. They might not win, but it might incentivize RU-vid to update and improve the copyright system and strike process
This honestly feels like one of the those movies were some guy leaves a trail of destruction thinking he's doing the right thing or its all for the greater good, only the realize come the end that he's entirely lost his way and the damage he's caused is irreversible. Many of music videos that got hit were of music that was never given an official public release from Bungie and the creators who uploaded them were doing it as a means of sharing such music with the Destiny community. But now their gone and we don't even know if they'll come back at all.
First off, I think Bungie should still sue RU-vid for allowing this shit to happen and not having anything in place to verify that Nick was CsC or whatever company. A single person should not be able to emulate an entire company and cause this kind of shit storm but RU-vid is going to act like suing this dude (which they aren't even doing) is enough and nothing needs to be changed, when clearly a SINGLE PERSON can shut down a plethora of content. Yes, an example is made but people with nothing to lose don't give a solitary fuck, they'll do this shit anyways if they just wanna fuck over a company for a week and then the content creators get fucked in the process. This goes beyond just using a little ditty that's blocked like a titty, this shit is unacceptable and as a company better measures need to be taken, they have the coin and they can expand support so someone should bring this shit to their attention cause they're still not seeing it.
It's so funny to me that RU-vid is literally a part of Google, by far one of the biggest companies in the world, every single browser like Brave and Opera GX use the google search engine, and they can't even manage to get a support team. Even Doordash has better support than RU-vid. It's actually mind blowing that they can think its okay, after all this time. Its been at least a decade this has been an issue. And they couldn't give less of a shit than they currently do. I absolutely despise every company who's "support" is just a link to commonly asked questions, because if my question was commonly asked, I wouldn't be using their support lmao. For me support is a last option compared to simply searching an issue up.
But even if Bungie were to sue RU-vid I don’t think it would even accomplish much, since Bungie loses, I mean as big as Bungie is, there is no way they are getting past the fat stack of lawyers that RU-vid owns not to mention they Google is RU-vid’s parent company, they’ll just run Bungie’s money out to dry at least I think.
You know, this person is absolutely crazy. However, their actions causing Bungie to have issues with RU-vid might actually result in a positive change in the system, hopefully.
Not really otherwise they'd be suing RU-vid for the 7.6 million $ Personally i want to see big tech duke it out with eachother if we're not getting antitrust breakups / class actions
@@Zuignap "Our support systems we have in place suck? Our copyright system is heavily biased and flawed? Can't reach our department heads easily?" * Breaks dislike button *
This is why I keep my creative ideas to myself and I destroy all the ones I'm not working on. The only thing that survives are the 40k models; they cost too much to just throw away.
Fun Fact: Submitting a complaint via regular channels is 3-30 days depending on the business/industry. Submitting a complaint via social media by directly calling out the business nets you a turnaround time of 48-72 hours.
That's extremely fucked, but I see why. If you go through the backends of a business, nobody else sees the complaint you're submitting, and thus they don't have to care. When you show it to the whole world to see, they have to fix that shit immediately or else they stand to lose business.
Social media managers are blamed if shit goes sideways on Twitter, trends, and its not dealt with promptly. Lawsuit pops up? Well that's money involved, CEO/shareholders panick and the lawyers get a call to go full find-a-b*tch. RU-vid's bot support has no one to blame other than the CEO for making their "support" work that way, abd they sure as heck won't officially take that blame, so there's just silence.
This is like leaving a loaded gun in a playground and getting mad when a child picks it up and shoots someone. I'd argue that the majority of fault is on RU-vid's end for absolutely refusing to fix what has been a known problem for years.
This isn't a case of a child though, it's if a grown adult did that, both parties are to blame, but the adult is more to blame as they pulled the trigger
@@infernostormy2985 they are both equally to blame, if RU-vid fixed the system and didnt neglect creators, it wouldn’t have happened. If the individual didn’t exploit the system, it wouldn’t have happened.
I went in circles with Amazon account support trying to get my password changed until I finally got sick of it and closed my account. It isn't just RU-vid.
Dude the fact his username was Nazo, that hurts cause i used to watch the animator ChakraX I think his name was. Phenomenal creator, amazing evolution of skills, and beautiful production value.
@@tserra529 Bungie has always been very community focused, obviously this hurts the trust they have with the community a lot, so they took action. there arent many other studios that would do the same as bungie did, beeing open to the issue and suing the shit out of bad actors
They're not protecting the creators, they're protecting their reputation, content creators are bungie's leverage, as content creators spread the word of bungie's product basically for free, business as usual.
RU-vid as a company has been a joke for some years now. The copyright system is broken, even fake companies claim many videos even from the people who actually own the content, the coding on the site is always so buggy, and even high end companies and youtubers have a hard time getting in touch with anyone. The only reason I am still here is to watch people like you, Charlie. Screw the company I am here for the creators who actually make an effort.
He played the game of 'fluck around and find out' against Bungie and lost. He went in saying "never tell me the odds!" and got destroyed before he reached the finish line. This is by far the most hilarious thing I have seen in a long while and I couldn't be happier.
Important additional note to this story. Lord Nazo was a part of a subset of the Destiny community that uploads music to RU-vid. Most of Destiny's music isn't published by Bungie, so there is a dedicated community of people who will take tracks from the game and edit them into listenable versions that get posted to RU-vid. Lord Nazo was communicating with other members of the same community while he was on his striking spree, absolutely wild scenario. He also would have been totally fine if he hadn't been posting some of the *only* music that Bungie actually published officially. Funny tidbit is that he might have gotten away with it if he hadn't swung too big. Bungie didn't really start taking action until they realized that one their biggest, most brand safe creators ( Aztecross) got hit by a strike that made absolutely no sense.
Byf was one of the first ones hit iirc, and he immediately brought it up to Bungie, who than started to investigate. I don't think that Aztecross was the sole reason, I don't think there was a sole reason other than that Nazo started to do this in the first place. Bungie has always placed a huge focus on their community, and puts in a huge amount of work to protect the community. They are constantly doing charity drives, community interactions, community spotlights, creator spotlights, and have open communication with the community. They even have public employee spotlights to celebrate their staff, and according to glassdoor, this isn't just base level PR. Bungie seems to honestly really care about their people. So someone impersonating them and ruining their community focused image was going to get slapped, even if they avoided some of the biggest names.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
I’d see why they’d drop kick his banking account, those RU-vidrs were scared stiff of losing their channel, this is a prime presentation of a company who doesn’t joke around.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
The diffirence betwene a hero and a villian is frequently thought about. When something bad happends to a person. They can either be a hero and keep it from happening to anyone else. Or, doing it to everyone else because "If it happened to me, why didnt it happen to anyone else". Thid guy id the phydical manifistation of a villian. Someone who thinks he is doing justice when in reality, he just makes things worse
I feel like bungie should sue RU-vid instead of this dude. RU-vid literally took down multiple videos all because youtube wouldn't take the time to make sure that the copyright claims were real and coming from a genuine company and not some dude pretending to be one
The guy still impersonated a copyright claim company and striked videos and creators who were completely innocent, why shouldn't he be sued? He also played the victim card while stabbing his fellow destiny creators in the back and blamed it all on Bungie, it's fucking vile.
a bit late to the party but hearing a billion dollar company has the same problems as small and large youtube creators for copywrite is both comforting and infuriating. comforting in the fact its not just us its happening to but also infuriating that it is still going on and probably will be for a good while.
honestly I wish bungie could have the funds to sue RU-vid to encourage more of a response to its creator and help, especially during this quantum tv saga that is still unresolved and its crazy how Susan will bow down to big corps when threatened and yet does nothing to help the ones that actually pay their lively hood. its a food chain system that creators like Charlie are treated like bottom of the barrel ants.
Lemme tell ya something. RU-vid is a huge loss for google. It doesn't even break even. This is why there will never be an alternative. The only reason google keeps the lights on is because this is the biggest pool of information for algorythms to learn from in the world. They don't really care about the creators.
@@imyourmaster77 can you link me to some of that information... Im making a video and doing content on just this topic. If you would be able to share me with whatever you have/know it would be a huge help... If you want ill share my socials to connect... 🙏
@@imyourmaster77 Where did you get info about youtube being loss for google? Logically it could explain why there is no competition in video hosting but i would be interested in real data\arguments.
I'm glad Nick is getting what he deserves. I also heard about that story and I can't blame Bungie. They only wanted to take down RU-vid content creators who basically Copy and Paste their sound track and everything because the sound tracks are copy righted which is illegal and then that bozo going on a rampage.
Yeah i get that it shouldn't be allow to simply copy-paste sound track that are copyrighted but what annoying me is when you want to play a game that has copyright music in it you CAN NOT play the game with music on if you plans on uploading it to youtube because you'll get hit by the Content ID bull crap. Imo, it make absolutely no sense that your videos can be hit by "Content ID" while playing the very game the musics have been injected in. Right now i can't play any music or vfx sound track in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit ReMastered because of this dumb reason.
@@The_Worst_Warlock That doesn’t mean their mixing of the tracks are complete or the best available version. Its a problem for example with FF7 Remake’s official soundtrack because it is lacking a lot of tracks and complete versions or extended versions but the copyright owners (SquareEnix) constantly nuke every video of it on the platform via bots/content id/manually, so no extended version, no remixes, no covers, no different mixing of audio, nothing. You either buy the incomplete product or play and capture the game without audio if you want the missing tracks and mix it yourself.
What scares me the most, is not that he was a fraud, but the fact, that they could track him easly, but they had to FORCE Google to do it. Imagine a smaller content creator getting scammed and demand someone's identity to get back what he lost, and noone would bet an eye on it. It's like: you can see all the fish, but just the anglers are allowed to pull them from the lake. God help us if we do something, and then someone tracks us.
Been long but it's not a huge deal, afaik the guy used personal info when he set up the accounts used to impersonate Bungie, when you go ahead and fight to court the person issuing the takedowns YT will provide you as it must the legal info of the other party, this isn't normally done as your average joe cannot afford to take matters into court this guy just happened to decide to piss off a company with both money and lawyers to follow through the proper process.
As the other guy said, you usually have to go through police, prove there is a crime, then they get a court order to force a company to give up information. Otherwise the company is breaking the law if there is an information protection clause in the user agreements. And if that wasn't the case, that's when you would pray to God, because literally anyone could easily find whoever they wanted.
RU-vid report system has to fucking change. If someone strikes you in order to get that strike removed, you have to provide all of your personal information and the person who strikes you can see it but the person who initiated the strike has to provide zero information.
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help
@@brandoncook6190 Yea. But you’re allowed to be annoyed and frustrated. Maybe have someone talk to his parents? Abduction usually = r*pe so….that’s not something to wish for. But a good ol slap in the head never hurts.
As someone rather on the smaller side of RU-vid who does upload Destiny content, it was a scary few days of watching Destiny content creators get striked and possibly losing their channels. Anyone's livelihood could've just been gone, and those were the big boys. But when Bungie themselves got hit as well, that's when the story got absolutely wild because just... how? However, then seeing Bungie's massive support for its community is so loving, while RU-vid's joke of system is so sad.
@@codafett bungie treat their community better than 90% other company. Not like bungie is the best but one of good one. They still listen to community.
The 2nd dumbest thing ab this is any hate the community managers got for this. Like Bungie literally encourages streamers and content creators to stream any day 1 raid and Bungie even made a promo for it. Assuming Bungie would issue content claims for gameplay is ridiculous. The only copyright they enforce is stuff their channels posts and soundtracks since there’s already a way to get those
I remember all the articles during the takedowns. Most of them just put the blame on Bungie. It was just after the announcement of the Sony acquisition too…
Check out wargaming lmao before you doubt anything. Bought a community world of warships tournament agreeing not to change anything. Presumably adding carriers and submarines at some point to it, where the tournament existed to exclude those classes. Now they are banning many of the most popular streamers in the tournament from casting it because they have said bad stuff about the company.
9:50 I like how you give RU-vid credit for making an example of someone for making fraudulent copyright claims, despite the fact that one of the things RU-vid is *most* infamous for is NOT doing anything about the massive amounts of fraudulent copyright claims that happen on the platform. _"Oh, well, we got this one asshole, so we're the good guys now, right?"_ Absolutely the fuck not. Slapping one individual doing this on a relatively small scale is not that impressive; do it to the corporations that issue thousands of BS copyright claims and make people's lives miserable and then you can get credit for trying to do something about the problem.
I watched this all go down and it was insane to see. Bungie is a pretty great company and let's a lot of fan creations happen. You can have 80% their content and 20% yours and they'll allow it. I remember first seeing it and I was so confused because Bungie encourages fan creations, they do videos of the week/artists of the week. They have contests for the best dressed guardians and do a lot of stuff for charity. Also giving creators spotlights, I've seen a lot of creators I didn't know about because of that. It definitely tanked their reputation badly but I'm sure they earned it back and more because of this.
Yea, Bungie is actually awesome. They had their time when D2 content Was quite thin after parting with Activision, but they got a lot better since Beyond Light and especially Witch Queen was a blast. Can't wait to see what they have in store for us now that they are owned by Sony
I like bungie but i cant stand how we have to pay for everything in games like D2. If i buy a game once i expect the future content to be free because i bought the game. I payed for witch queen but i have to pay for beyond light and all other dlc's, its too much. Not to mention the future expansions
I find it funny that the company sues to try and gain money back, but there will be no piece of any pie had for the smaller youtubers who got caught up in it.
Had a big channel once. got taken down by false claims. and when you wanna sort that you speak to bots and nothing happends. it sucks cause it was kinda like a passion/hobby and poof gone.
