That, ladies and gentle, is why he is the strongest man who ever lived. His longevity in the sport is freakish. To be at the top or near the top since the late 90's is something the world has never seen and probably won't see again.
Ultima893 Fair enough, but Mariusz was fast and strong, rather than having the static strength of Savickas. Mariusz would be dominated by the guys of today, so therefore can't be the strongest of all time.
Ultima893 Don't get me wrong, I love Mariusz and followed him through all of his wins. Although he has the most WSM titles, he is not a better strongman than Zydrunas. Check out the most recent times that they went head to head in 2009 and 2004 WSM. Big Z has won WSM 4 times; the Arnold 7 times, Fortissimus x2; Strong Man Champion league x2, the IFSA world championships x2, the log lift championships x4 and probably some other things that I have forgotten. Lets then throw in the multitude of world records Big Z holds. Mariusz was fast, agile and an amazing champion-the Dominator's run from the late 90's to mid-2000's was phenomenal but Zydrunas has moved the sport on. Also, do not forget that he was competing against Mariusz in the 90's yet Mariusz retired in 2009 whilst Zydrunas is still winning titles in 2014. To be competing at elite level for nearly 20 years is something the world may never see again. Paul Anderson was a mutant in his time but was, in essence a weight lifter and power lifter. The things he did in his day were incredible, but the strength world has moved on significantly since the 1950's. Louis Cyr was around in the 1800's and again, in his time was no doubt a freak of nature but to say that he is stronger than Big Z is a little unrealistic. He is said to have picked up heavy rocks and supported platforms with over dozen people on it amongst other feats of strength but it would be unfair to compare him to a modern elite strong man.
You make a fair argument Mark, but bear in mind that Mariusz Pudzianowski retired WAY too early, at age 31. Most strongmen won't reach their peak until around age 35.. I believe if Mariusz Pudzianowski continued with Strongman he'd only get stronger and stronger for each year in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 so by 2014 I believe he would significantly improve his deadlift ( ~ 20-30kg ), squat ( ~ 20-30kg) and bench press (~15-20kg) with those numbers he could easily surpass Big Z and I believe he would win AT LEAST 1 or 2 more times in this period giving him 6 or 7 WSM titles and Big Z only 2 or 3. Pudzianowski also has a plethora of WSM records as well. I respect Big Z, but prefer Mariusz Pudzianowski any day of the week, Pudz would always beat out Big Z back in the day, shame he got a calf injury that hindered his 6th World's strongest man title back in '09
Ultima893 Fair enough, we will agree to disagree. As I said in my previous comment, I loved Mariusz in his competitive days and always rooted for him but when I look at the two athletes objectively I have to back Big Z. I think even if Mariusz added 20 kg to the major lifts, he still would not beat Zydrunas. Remember, Mariusz has got a recorded max deadlift of 415kg whereas Big Z has pulled 440 kg. Big Z has squatted around 430 kg compared to Mariusz's 380 kg. Strongman does not really involve the bench, but rather shoulders and again Mariusz can't come anywhere near Big Z on the log, axle or giant dumbbell. It was a shame that Mariusz retired at such a young age but in addition the calf tear, he also had a serious biceps injury that he had to undergo surgery for. I think, in his heart the Dominator knew that he could not train and compete as well as he once did. Good debate.
The man is not human. This right up there with the 280kg bench press for 4 reps that I witnessed a Samoan rugby player do. What makes this even more impressive is the incredible distance the bar has to travel for a man of big Z's height.
vauntastic Well, there are plenty of lifters who can do much more than that, e.g. Eddie Hall doing 340 Kg for 8 reps earlier this year. All depends on bodyweight.
That certainly was 430kg deadlift - i did go into that gym ~3years ago and saw him 2rep 430. Plates are 25kg ones - hammer strenght. last plates on the side are 20kg - tad bit thinner.
I have to say one thing...... The wr of deadlift is 460 kg, and magnusson did it barely with lot of efforts and struggling..... If savikas can do 2 reps with 430 kgs, it means it could beat magnusson....... I think something doesn't fit here.....
swimbeyonder Well, firstly, the record is 461 kg, done at Leeds in Aug 14 (I was lucky enough to be there) and secondly, he does one rep here at 430. I think Savickas max in competition is 442kg. He is a great deadlifter, but not the best, that's Magnusson
i love how the entire gym shakes when he puts it down, everyone else there has nowhere near the strength that zydrunas does, they should all stop working out their inferior muscles for a second and watch zydrunas lift up about triple the weight of a giant man. thats no ordinary man folks, he is the strongest man in the entire world
@SteingrimTMNF 430kg comes from: 20kg bar, 7x 25kg 1x 20kg 1x 10g (per side). You can see the outer plate is a few mm thinner than other plates. Thats hammer strength plates, they make 25 and 20kg plates same height but the latter one is a bit thinner in width. You can see that in the video if you know what to look for.
Imagine this dude walks up to you in the gym and he tells you he needs your plates. It would be a good time for an intra-workout meal or maybe a bit of cardio around the block. Of course, I am sure he would bring back the plates eventually. Savickas is the sort of dude to clean up after himself, after all. If he would not put the plates back, someone else would have to spend looong minutes unloading the bar. That in itself is a workout.
For any one with a negative comment on this guy, i would like to see them lift 430 kilos. Yes I am aware that it is not the record but it is a fair effort considering it is probably more than twice his body weight
This is a very difficult 430 kilo lift because the plates are quite small 25kg plates extremly close to the floor, even closer than Olympic plates which makes this an extremly impressive lift even though it is only 430kg.
Kaz was number one in his day, awesome raw power, but all sports progress and he would be dominated by today's guys
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The gym is in Lithuania, right? Lithuanian people are so fr#@king strong, that they don't even pay attention ;D haha There's a superhuman just across the room, deadlifting the world, and people pass by like "oh well, just another strong dude. Move on.". ;D hhaha
I agree with you here. Benni has the overall world record deadlift with the IPF with gear. The record without gear belongs to Konstantine Konstantinovs unless it's been broken within the past 2 months or so which is possible.
Apparently 7 of those "45's" are 25kg plates, and the 2 end ones are a bit thinner and 20kg plates (not the little ones) for a total of 430kg or 947lbs
@DreadnoughtMetal2006 Yeah, that's the Hummer deadlift, which as you may know is not the same as this kind of deadlift. The Hummer deadlift has the bar higher to start with, and as the bar bends so much, the full weight doesn't kick in until near lockout - which is why the record is so much higher
He IS using straps, you can clearly see him wrapping them on the bar at 0:14.......and they are 25 kg plates, this is 430kg not 370kg, Savickas can rep 370kg, he did 360 kg for 8 reps at WSM 2012.
Saving his energy for the later events probably, and he'd just broken his log press record, 2 records on the trot is maybe too much even for the Big Z!
Konstantin pulling 430kg with no straps. I don't know that I would say Zydrunas can lift more than Konstantin. Plus he's got glasses on...that automatically gives Konstantin the nod... ;) Both so damn strong.
strongman deadlifts are done with straps and hitching is allowed,both are things which KK doesnt do or use.and also he has lifted 500kg from the rack and held onto it for 8 seconds,no straps.
If you look at the end plates, they're thinner than the rest, they're 20's - which makes the total 10kg less than if they were 25's, hence 430 rather than 440kg
Nah man, if they were all only 20kg plates, he would be deadlifting eight plates on each side with a additional 15kg plate on each side which is 370kg.
@fatgordon you have to know,that this deadlift is done on a regular gym/IPF standard bar.Benny and bolton used WPC/WPO bar which bends more and is longer than the IPF bar.
@cmapple No, I'm not mixed up thanks, I know the difference. Benni Magnusson has the WR at 460 kg, no staps and no suit, he only had a belt. And yes, strongman deadlift allows straps, and the WR is 440 kg by Savickas at WSM 2011.
@fatgordon well there is a whole sort of bars being sold at gym shops,but competition bars are only IPF and WPC/WPO standard.The olympic bar doesnt play roll in the deadlift,because its not used at the competitions for deadlift.And yeah any bar bends because of the weight,but because WPC/WPO bars are longer they bend more at the same weight than the IPF bar.Thats where the difference comes in the deadlift.
I know how strongman is a bit more multiplanar and practical in how strength is applied,not to say that squatting,pressing,and deadlifting movements aren't recruitment patterns we use on a daily basis,and as exercise physiology and methods like Westside weren't really common in the States back then,I'd agree with your second statement also.The fact still remains that Zydrunas is pulling and pressing significantly more than Kaz ever could,and benching isn't typically a strongman event.
His official best powerlifitng competition deadlift is 400kg (880lb) done in 2004. In 2005 he said his best was 407.5kg (898lb) without straps. Don't know where it is today but he ceased to compete in powerliftin (and therefore non-straps deadlifts)
yeah was making weight for a fight. I had to make 135 pounds. atm Im 69kg closer to 155 pounds now. im 5:9, I wasnt gloating that im super strong either. im just saying I lift without assistance . im im pretty proud of that. I do know that's not super heavy. but my form is great, my grip strength is great etc. so im hapy
That assumes these are 20kg plates, I say they are 25's apart from the last large ones on each side which are clearly thinner and are 20's. I say this is a max out
Yeah, he did, but that was a hummer deadlift, which is not the same as this kind of deadlifting. In the hummer deadlift, the bar sits higher up and the full weight doesn't kick in until nearer the top of the lift, until all four tyres are off the ground
5 years ago, eddie hall did 500 kg, prepped 2 years for that, made a huge show, did absolutely everything for one lift and barely did 500 kg while pooping himself. meanwhile 12 years ago big Z just ccasually works out with 430 kg deadlifts...just 1x 20 kg plate and 1 x 10 kg plate on each side away from 500 kg
yeah you're right. The thing is back then Kazmaeir was by far the best overhead presser. His 375lb log lift was the world record. He had almost no competition (only one close was Jamie Reeves) He was never pushed further by the other competitiors (except for WSM89 in which he was already injured and beat up). And did you watch his technique? He had none!He did just use pure strength, absolutely zero leg drive.The cleaning looked much harder for him, the pressing was absolute strict.
They didn't have training for specific strongman lifts then. He also had the all-time world record powerlifting total at one time. His feats of strength were insane. He didn't even know the strongman events tell he showed up to compete. The only strongman to be banned for being to dominate. Kaz was the best in all areas of strength.
O sorry then it was more of a misunderstanding, because I meant more like "no top strongman was ever able to" (english is not my native language, sorry). Of course it's possible in the future. For example if a top bench press specialist would turn into top strongman. 661lb raw bench is just incredible for a guy who trains bench as just one of 3 powerlifts and many strongman lifts. Since the rise of bench shirts such is mighty under-appreciated.
@maxthehulk Yeah, but that was not a standard deadlift, that was from a bar much higher, where the full weight doesn't hot you until you are almost locked out. Watch it and you'll see the weight doesn't fully leave the ground until he's almost locked out. You can't compare that kind of deadlift with this. The world record for this kind of deadlift is 460kg
"The weights are not regular weights simple as that" - no, 430 kg is 430 kg. What differs between strongman and powerlifting is the use of straps, hitching and the bar sometimes being higher than a regular bar. It is for those reason that Strongman and powerlifting have separate world records. But the 'weights' do not differ!
I agree, his grip is massive, but not as good as other strongmen...Terry Hollands lifts this weight without straps, I know others do too...and of course all the powerlifters who train without straps. My hands are small so I struggle to hold on to anything over 180kg (pb without straps)
@TheCodiceabarre Don't think so - 16 x 25 kg plates = 400kg plus bar at 20kg and 2 x 5kg plates. I can't believe that some people still think Savickas's max is 340kg!! He just lifted 442.5kg at the worlds strongest man this year. He has lifted more than 400kg many, many times. You are so wrong.
