There is. I played in previous videos, and it's in the primer I wrote, in the description of the video.

@@shawneldridge3006 Not really. I have seen that new lists look quite different than in the olden days, but I at most play 1 league of Amulet every other month or so, and it’s in Legacy 😅

Thanks for watching!

Thank you! Long live Premodern!

Love to hear you're enjoying it! It's far and away my favorite card in Premodern <3

Hi! I think Chant is a fine card, but it works best in a combo deck. When you look at it in the abstract Chant is sometimes card disadvantage, and I don't think most control players want to deal with that. Abeyance is a bit more interesting, and I could see making room for that card. Still, the issue with control deck's sideboards is always that you have so many things to cover against, and you only have some slots, so you have to choose what you want to beat.

@@tylerantony7399 I am not so confident to call it “tier 1”, but I think it’s legitimately very, very good and it can still be improved. I hope I can get it all the way to the top!

Hickory Woodlot (I think that's the name of the G one) used to see play in Aluren lists, but those were attempting to combo more quickly, which is not something this deck is trying to do. This approach to Aluren with Survival is meant to accrue value over time, and eventually combo (if it needs to). Woodlot doesn't work in the context of a deck like that.

@@fpawluszmtg yeah this was it. OK make sense, survival in every Deck, huh? But Probably rightly so...great content Mate.

@@bobbychess5652 Thank you! It’s no secret that Survival is one of the steongest cards in the format, and if you are playing any creature based strategy heavy in Green then you should definitely be asking yourself “should I play Survival here?”. In the case of Aluren the answer is a resounding YES.

Me inspiraste a que le de una probadita a la version BUG!

lol I guess technically it's AlurenB 😆

The Pools do a lot of work, but they don't do it by themselves, so playing more than 2 is sketchy. You need lands that actually produce the colored mana by themselves.

How can anybody ever root against Ill Gotten Gains? Deck also plays Intuition and Cunning Wish! I'm only human...

Si, esa lista que jugué esa vuelta ya es vieja, y perder contra Vortex y Humility game 1 era parte de lo que había decidido. La lista que estoy jugando ahora juega Monk Realist de main, asi podés ganarle al Vortex.

Thanks Arty! Hope you dig it!

Thank you! It's far and away my favorite deck, and every time I play it I am reminded why <3

I guess reading the card does indeed explain the card! Thanks for pointing that out, haha!

@fpawluszmtg we've all been there. Thank you for making this content! It's amazingly entertaining and you're great at commenting while you play, which is nowhere as easy of a skill to have as people think it is.

@@brianontiveros-kersch2412 Thank you very much for the kind words!

I do what I can!

As I said in another video where you made the same comment: mana bases for enemy color pairings were supposed to be bad back in the day, it was part of the flavor of MtG. They are "enemies" after all. Mana not being free (as it is in current Magic) is in my opinion one of the features of Premodern, and forces us to try to work around it and get creative in deckbuilding.

It's honestly pretty wild these cards were ever printed

New frame vindicates cost 0.01, old frame cost upwards of 1 dollar at the time. I spend it on cards that I personally like and feel like are worth it to me, but I play way too many decks and make too little $ to have every deck old framed 😅

@@fpawluszmtg That makes sense, if it's cost prohibitive it's understandable. Cheers

Cause those cards still deal damage, Totem is not impactful enough. I'd rather have other cards in my deck instead.

@@fpawluszmtg makes sense. But with totem in play the opponent cant easily blank Oath

@@RegisJim I'd probably be siding out Oath against them anyway, since it's very tough to have it do anything if your opp doesn't cooperate.

The way it's worded means there are 2 separate triggers. What you do is you put all the "exile your land triggers" on the stack and hold priority so they do NOT resolve. Then you blow up/bounce your Tide. Now the "leaves the battlefield" trigger of Tide goes on the stack, and we let it resolve. Now we are only left with all the "exile your land triggers" on the stack, and we allow them to resolve, exiling the lands forever.

Mmmm you could try it, but honestly Muscle Sliver does A LOT of hard carrying for this deck. You could build a version of this deck with 5 colors and a bunch of rainbow lands (and no Gush), and I think that's worth exploring (I played it once in an episode of a series I had called Dueling Grounds, you can still find it on this channel).

The whole point is to play cards from sets up until 2004, I think not including fetch lands makes a ton of sense.

@@fpawluszmtg for me it doesnt. Format already has its own banlist, not linked to anything but particular card frame, and it skips several early sets, including Fallen Empires of all. So it can be arbitrarily changed, if that change improves gameplay and/or growth.

​@@RegisJim Fallen Empires was released before 1995, the year Premodern begins, that's why it isn't included. Premodern is meant to start where Old School 93-94 ends. Honestly, if you don't like the format feel free to not play it... It's my favorite format, and I really enjoy it as is, so I don't think it needs to change, but if it is not what you're looking for there are no shortage of other formats for you to try.

@@fpawluszmtg well... idk where you came to your conclusion. I'm just surprised that neither old school Swedes nor Premodern uses FE, that edition must have seriously hurt someone. This is not about me liking or disliking the format, it's about a finished cycle of fetchlands that would fix mana issues of many existing decks and maybe open few more archetypes. But every time I even dare to express this idea, I got the same reactions "play different format" "premodern is about compromises" even outright stupidities like "your generation wants everything" or "but those are enemy colours, muh lore". Or aesthetics... while allowing reprints. It'd be similar to how Extended used duals post-rotation even though the rest of stuff went away. Idk why I even care. I guess crappy manabases are format's identity.

@@RegisJim You can look at it however you prefer, but yeah, the format is like it is because the person who invented it envisioned for it to be that way, not much more to it than that. Whether you agree with that vision or not is of course your own choice. I personally think it's good, and makes the format more interesting and challenging when trying to build new decks in those color combinations.

@@AlbinoTurtles haha I know, right? We’re very close to ppl clamoring for a Parallax Tide ban again xD

@@fpawluszmtg 😂 🍻

It's understandable, though... Restricting your opponents on the mana angle is something that was a key part of Magic since its inception, and that, with time, it has moved away from. Land Tax's existence blanked this angle of attack singlehandedly, so now all of these resource denial strategies get to exist.

This deck is what led to parfait.

@@fpawluszmtg Ok. Agreed. Maybe :) I miss Land Tax though ... By the way, have you ever tried Oath Of Lieges ? I like it in this meta. Even brewed a UW stasis with 3-4 Oath of Lieges; really fun deck, combo very well with Daze and Thwart !

@@AlbinoTurtles Probably. But I personnaly still prefer the old meta with landtax than these combos with tide + i own 4 land tax, and they are getting quite dusty :p

@@Thierry_GobsandGods oh yeah, I have 4 Korean that are very sad. I am the loudest opposition to that ban.

That is true, it's a very hard card to play around!

There are probably multiple folks with better lists, tbh 😅 I just threw this together and it's entirely theorycrafted, with no games played before the start of this event, haha

Good games Rain! Yeah, I didn't really consider game 3, you had to do what you had to do considering how low on time you were. Getting a feel of when to scoop it up to have time for the next game is definitely a skill, to be honest. It was a really good match overall, and sweet deck!

@@fpawluszmtg a great match against a great guy!

Yeah, I know that multiple people have done this in the past, but it had gone out of favor. I believe that it's time for this approach to come back if we want to make Control work. I would 100% NOT play Cunning Wish, cause that card is not playable in a control context imo.

It was a fun one!

Haha, as I said: the videos come out whenever I make them :P

Gracias Hugo! Mirá, el mazo definitivamente funciona sin Moxes, pero es bastante peor. No jugaría Exploration, igual. Simplemente jugaría 2 o 3 tierras más que me den mana Rojo y Verde (probablemente Mossfire Valley) y sumaría algo como un Earthquake, para tener una carta más que me ayude a recuperarme si me caigo un poco atrás por sacar los Mox.

Muchísimas gracias por responder, valoro realmente lo que me dices. Ya veré qué hacer porque sin moxes parece que no será lo mismo😅 Gracias!!​@@fpawluszmtg

@@Hugocm87 Y si, no es lo mismo, pero el mazo es suficientemente poderoso que pasaría de ser tier 0 a ser tier 2, vas a ganar bastante igual.

@@fpawluszmtg Genial, le daré una vuelta porque el arquetipo me gusta mucho. Gracias por atender así de bien los comentarios. Yo tuve un pequeño canal (Greenlotusmtg) y sé del tiempo que puede rquerir, por lo que lo valoro más si cabe. Gracias amigo!

@@Hugocm87 Por supuesto! Un abrazo grande!

Hay que seguir innovando, papá!

4 mana seems like a lot for Sligh, so against counterspell decks I'm really skeptical... Against stuff like Enchantress or Exalted Angel decks I could see it being serviceable.

I think you can definitely win with just Factory if your opponent has no lands in play, which was the strategy I went for. Maybe you could leave in a single Decree, but idk...

@@fpawluszmtg not easy, if you cycle decree your Cop:Red Will be useless and u could die. Atm i haven't found a good finisher vs Red, talking about mtgo, real life magic is different and you could 1-0 or 1-1 a match that you can't win online

@@micheleb.00 I feel like Tide is really the only finisher you need, especially since it prevents your opp from ever being able to work around CoP: Red. But I have played exactly 1 match against the deck, so I could be wrong...

@@fpawluszmtg yeah i think this could be a good answer to think about

Against counterspell decks it seems really mediocre. I feel like if my opponent had had Flaring Pain I'd have been in a significantly worse spot. 4 mana is just soooooo much for the red deck...

@@fpawluszmtg foil flaring pain is an expensive card.

@@seanswerdan7639 Say no more, that's a good reason to run Anarchy instead.

Standstill just backfires too often for my liking... Replenish is cool, but I feel like if I were to go down that route I'd lean heavier into it, like the 3 Replenish/3 Wave/3 Tide list I played some months ago.

Literally the two best formats Magic has to offer.

Thank you!

They always are, Goblins is such a tricky deck!

Playing any non-Magnivore creatures in the Oath deck is a no-no from me. We could play Mox Diamond, but the point of this deck was to make a budge friendly/more casual version of RG Oath.

@@fpawluszmtg ah yes of course

Some cards really call you to brew with them, and both Magnivore and Wildfire are such cards

I know, that match was something!

Wishes are such cool cards... but they all promise so much yet deliver so little

Not really. That card is just too cute and doesn't actually do anything against most decks. Even against Replenish they can Attunement/Frantic Search and Replenish in the same turn, so it just doesn't work. The whole concept of a Wish package is just wishful thinking (pun intended).