I'm a flight sim enthusiast with a passion for flight sim tech. I cover flight sims like Microsoft Flight Simulator and X-Plane with a flurry of DCS and the likes of Warthunder thrown in.
Great video, how did you get the two throttle mounts that are small with no large mount with mouse space? All of the other videos I see they have one smaller mount and one bigger mount for an optional mouse pad config? I prefer it the way you have it, just curious how you were able to get a different mount.
I have to correct one point of your video, there are non-adjustable dampers installed. At 2:10 in your video its the black circular device mounted with two screws above the cam the other one is mounted under the half-moon plastic cover at the ball of the stick iteself. These are removable and an adjustable version is coming in future. They are shown on Page 6,7 & 35 of the User Manual PDF. I only just found out myself but wanted to share the info, as they don't seem to do very much, although I haven't removed them to see the difference. I also hate the pendulm effect of having the heavy Hog stick on there, I think clutches would have made this base so much better.
@@g-locmedia I heard Nobifier mention them then I went to the manual and hey presto. I bought mine based off your video it's just needing a wee bit of work on TMs part and this base roll be too notch. I really like the calibration method tbh
I agree on the mounting holes. Yeah, most may have them, but on the bottom. Much like the vkb gladiator sticks, the mounting holes are right there on top. I like that it has adjustable width, maybe they could go a bit narrower for really small frames, but that's a good shoulder width. Not having a permanently attached cable is a big plus IMHO. You can use your own length, or get the right cable instead of having to use adapters, it's the only way to go. I don't have an x-box, I'm not much of a console person and don't do my gaming on the couch. However, I don't really like the idea of having to plug it into another controller as a pass-through, but get why it's necessary on a console.
Force feedback CLS-60 flitesim is more affordable but still about a $1000. Brunner CLS-E MK II about $2000. Rudder pedals & MK II Yoke bundle is about $3600.... If only the price for bundle was 1000, then i buy. For now, i will use a cheaper yoke around 300. Turtle Beach Velocity One Flight and pedals 500. Until force feedback in a bundle around $800... i pass. It's great if its your hobby, not for casual players
This looks like they took the old Saitek/Logitech design and added a few extra features, but the rudder action and smoothness in that design is rubbish (I know, I had them before moving onto the massively better Virpil ACE pedals) and looks the same here. Turtle Beach should have done more research before going that route on the most important aspect. If they had done it differently, even to the cost of cutting features, say the adjustable width and got the price down a touch they could have had a winner for the entry level rudder pedals range. As it is I’d never recommend this for PC users. For consoles, well, I don’t know, there’s not a lot of choice, but then again, console flight simmers shouldn’t be surprised by that.
i got these and after a week started to squek and feel like they were rubbing on the rails so i swapped them out and bout the winwing pedals and for a similar price winwing pedals blew them out the water i think if they didnt start to make noise and feel different after light us i would have been happy with them tho but when win wing offers a way better experince at only 50$ more i cant see why anyone should purchase these and even if they dropped price they would have to compete with vkbs offering
Yeah not much choice in teh mide level budget. The vkbt is more expansive when you factor in teh shipping (and someties import fees) and doesn't have toe brakes. At least Virpil and now winwing has some options but they are a bit more expansive nevertheless.
I enjoy your vid. I fully agree that you should be harsh on reviewing all these hardware when the competition and availability of similar products may be better options.
I enjoy your vid. I fully agree that you should be harsh on reviewing all these hardware when the competition and availability of similar products may be better options.
300$ 😂 I always wanted them to make a cheap throttle for their flight stick but now I’m glad that I switched to different manufacturers which provide more value. Sucks that there isn’t more choice for console simmer.
VKB are nice a little over $200 albeit doesn't have toe brakes but is completely metal construction. Don't understand the high priced plastic. I feel these are for console simmers. Great review.
Great review, I've had these for a year or so now on PC, I've noticed that the width setting influences the noise and friction for some reason. They would squeek at a certain position and changing the width one notch, it went away. Overall I'd say they feel good, maybe I've gotten used to to the grainyness you mentioned, and I haven't tried the other options before.
Thanks for sharing. Great for people to see some input from someone that's had them long term. Do they still work just as good as the day you got them?
I have one. I use it if I'm filming a mission or I need a backup if my VR needs charged. Used to use it exclusively before I got my VR. Man needs a backup if he has to get airborne
How are you goin' buddy, all the best from a fellow scot, though one still ensconced in Glasgow (without good sense like yours to move to the sun, ya lucky fellow). I've been loving your channel since I found it a few months back. Today I scratched the itch you gave me and ordered my Brunner CLSEs. You cost me a small fortune but you're responsible for the excited anticipation I'm revelling in right now. All the best Garry. ps. I bought one of your Ts as a thank-you.
Thank you so much mate. Yea, it's winter time over here right now and it's a cool 23c outside. You'll love the FFB yoke. Makes the sim come alive. Just give yourself a few weeks to learn the software and dial it in.
Wish companies would make left hand stick and right throttle combos more often. Until then I'm sticking to my pair of VKB gladiators. Which to me is the best I can get.
The Quality is MUCH Better than I expected…and it took only 6 calendar days to arrive at my house from China! AMAZING! I recommend purchasing directly from their website!
Thank you for a really honest review. Insta subscribed to your channel! Is it possible (easy) to get the grip from Warthog on the base? Regards from Denmark :)
For almost $500 to substitute a mouse over seven dials? I just don't have a need for that. What would be fun is a similar product without the cost of the screen, to be used in VR. I've held off on a G1000 unit for the same reason. I don't need the cost of a screen when it's just the buttons I'm after, so I'm plenty content to hold on to my money, and my mouse.
Using these big screens llooks great but how do you manage in aircraft with touch screen controllers e.g. G3000 and G3X Touch ? I use pop out manager to emulate the touch screens and this works quite well. But I suppose you need to use mouse activation of the on-screen Touch controllers?? I find that reduces the immersion (cf touch screens)
I've been a fan of Turtle Beach for several years because they are at a price point and quality I like. What's better is the increase in quality. This third Flight Peripheral. Is. A. Another. Large. Increase of. Quality of Life.
Just finished watching. I might replace my X-52 Pro with this one day. It got a bit sticky due to pure age and I just dont want to remove the rubber coating...too time consuming.
@@g-locmedia Probably. What I see a HOTAS with better software, a screen that I can actually use, more switches and a flatter base (I dont screw my HOTAS to any mounts). So to a more casual player, this seems really nice. For once youtube recommended me a good video xd Im very tempted now.
I really can’t justify spending anywhere near that much for any controller that will break far too soon for its price. If they had a lifetime warranty I’d be more open to it. I went through 3 X-52s when the warranty went out that was the end of that, never again. I’ll have to admit I wasn’t expecting a turtle beach product to even look half decent.
It's difficult when your running triple 4k. Even a few frames scraped up is worth it and losing clarity on those bottom monitors for me I'm happy with that.
TurtleBeach is definitely at work with their flight sim products. But, I'm not able to justify a HOTAS setup that's the same price as their yoke setup. Knock $100USD off and maybe it's considerable. The X52 and X56 are still far superior, especially with one being less price than this.
Too hard? Lol no, sometimes slightly challenging if you choose to make it so? Sure. For easy and simple planes like f16 and f18 doing basic things like aircraft startup take a minute or two, do it few times and you remember it. Air to air refueling and carrier landings take a few hours or practise in a good weather, no challenge there after a few weeks. All air to ground weapons are very simple, few button presses and they rarely miss. Doing all that in a thunderstorm at night starts to bring the challenge, but rarely find that online. PvP is just as hard as every other pvp game, everyone with more free time will beat you and you beat everyone who has less time to practise.
How is the ffb with100% setting is it too strong for most airplanes ? Is it needed to have 110N pitch force or 40-60N of ffb is good enough to fly a big airplane like 737 or 747 ? Thanks
@@g-locmedia +1 on this. Please provide the dimensions for the instrument panel frame you built. I have looked high and low. That would be invaluable to all those looking to build a more realistic instrument panel with this new FSB product or other solutions like Air Manager / 23" Monitor.
I will say that yes, this is truly a quality product and very nice if you are, like myself, a steam gauge pilot. Support is great as well. My issue was with XPlane 12; working with support and the installation with boost mode was not there and thus we could not get it to work. I did try it with MSFS 2020 and it was flawless. Unfortunately, all my instrument training is with XPlane and that's what I use. I'm now waiting for FSB to release new updates for XPlane and then I will definitely revisit this.
