There should be better arranged marches for the wurlitzer 165 than the ones I've heard so far, especially the ones arranged by mikey mills, & other arrangers. I'm surprised that the wurlitzer 150's marches sound better than the 165's, more like an actual marching band.
*Carousel Update:* The rounding board of the two red lipped African American boys with a rooster was forced to be removed, due to it's offense and racism and is now displayed in a "Take It Down" exhibit. Since 2018, while the carousel was being repaired, that panel has been replaced by one of a black panther.
@@hellogoodbye637 It apparently was only very recent that it broke. Idk when it will get fixed. Me and my friends are trying to get them to fix it (One of my friends who is a restorer would be able to do it but it is a matter of persuading whoever it is that makes decisions nowadays). The problem is Jasper passed away and there are few that they trust to work on these machines and few are still willing to do the work.
This organ apparently was converted into a church organ for St. Mary's Catholic Church, Amsterdam, NY during the depression (however nobody at the church could confirm this) and was after that converted back to the fairground organ by the factory. Today the church has a regular pipe organ. My guess is they set it up the fairground organ in 1929 and found it was too loud for the church procession because this is meant for a large fairground where music has to be heard over crowds and not a place of worship like the Catholic Church. This is by far one of the weirdest things anyone has done with a fairground organ.
This organ still runs I talked to somebody down there that was running the carousel they said that they could turn on the organ you got to convince them to turn it on
I am guessing this organ, if a Gebruder Bruder, was originally a model 106 (59-keyless) OR 103 (67-keyless); less likely anything else. I am guessing this based upon the case size and the number of violins on the front and their relative position in the case. There is a chance it was a 104 (80 keyless) although I would think the organ would have a larger sized case if so, otherwise the pipes would be CRAMMED in there. If a Wilhelm Bruder Sohne organ, I am guessing it could have been a model 81 (62-keyless) or 82 (70-keyless) organ; very unlikely a model 83 (82-keyless) since those also had a huge case. Both Gebruder Bruder and Wilhelm Bruder Sohne had the capability of making curved-front wooden violin pipes. However in the verified extant organs of those makers I know about, only Gebruder Bruder put them on display in the front of the organ; for some reason, Wilhelm Bruder Sohne seemed to hide their curved-front violins (if any) inside the case, and instead put flat-front violins on display. The display violins are painted white (with white enamel) in nearly all German organs I have seen. There is a good chance a prior rebuilder stripped the white paint off these and finished them in natural wood. Until I see the organ in person and do a thorough inspection, we won’t know what it originally was.
Ruth also put curved-front violins on display on the front of their organs. If a Ruth, it could be a model 34 or 35, less likely a 36. Only one model 34 (of the 8 built) was sold to the USA in the old days, and Fred Dahlinger claims it was destroyed, although I don’t have any history nor photos of it. No model 35s were originally sold new to American buyers from the Ruth factory as per their factory records, although at least two have been imported over here in the collector era (the earliest one built, from 1902, was owned by Bob Brown for a time but is now in an English collection; another early 35 with extended cabinet style front is in a prominent Southern California collection, having originally been used in East Germany or Eastern Europe). Since Ruth originally built 56 or 57 model 35 organs, and I don’t know where they all went, it’s entirely possible that one was sold over here second- or third-hand and was used here as early as the 1940s/50s. But this organ has been called a “Bruder” since the 1950s and so I presume they were correct and that’s what it was. It is very unlikely it was an Alfred Bruder originally (they tended to use Ruth scales for their own production, and none of their organs are known to have been sold new to the USA); and very unlikely it was an Ignaz Bruder Sohne (who only made cylinder organs, never book organs, and went out of business in 1918; they also apparently made very few medium and large size organs).
I heard this exact organ play this exact tune at the B.A.B. Carousel in Coney Island New York (however it was piped in because the Bruder "Elite Orchestra Apollo" wasn't playing).
Interesting they went the length to give the Carousel professional voice announcements similar to those on rapid transit! The Bruder however makes it hard to hear!
From Wurdeman 414. The song before that was Hail To The National Flag Lady. Then After I Love A Parade is The Stein Song. Also the lyrics are found from The Music Man Online
While we speak, I'm on the hunt to identify this elusive Wurlitzer arrangement as well as 6505-09 "Spirit Of America" faker tune, 6521-02, and 6532-05.
The arrangements for Wurlitzer organs are usually plodding and turgid affairs. I can`t help but wonder what bounce and sparkle a Dutch noteur would do with his arrangements.
Two more facades from the same Tijuana carving shop are also in use for 2 more Wurlitzer 165 replica organs. The first being for John Malone's Verbeeck (a "cousin machine" to the Seabreeze organ) and the second for one that was built from scratch by Bruce Newman now with a private owner as well in California.
I remember the beautiful Carousel and the Organ at Lincoln Park in the 50's I grew up listening to organ music on a show that wintered across the rd from the Lincoln Park Carousal . I loved the sound of that organ probably because it was inside the pavilion loved going over there .
It still exists, it is now in Glenn S. Thomas's home in New Jersey. As a little boy he enjoyed the music from this and the nearby Griffith Park organ, another 165(but with a Wurlitzer 157 facade). The Griffith Park Wurlitzer 165 is in American Treasure Tour in Oaks, Pennsylvania, with 2 OTHER of just 11 Wurlitzer 165's existing in the world.
I have the complete tune of "The Laughing Polka" made from the Gebruder Bruder "Elite Orchestra Apollo" organ from the time the carousel was on Surf Ave. Go to ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s89qQAU5pok.html
I’m surpised this bruder 165 actually sounds good for a change. Most don’t. Was this a larger model? Like a 103 or Elite Orchestrelle-Apollo? Sounds like a Wurlitzer 165 but richer to me.
@@carrouselsandtheirwurlitze7909 Right, we can't always be certain what exactly caused which carousel's fire. That was just something I heard from the 1990 VHS "The Art, History and Fun of the Carousel". Can't always be certain about every dead carousel's death though.
