The shaman village lore is something I'm still trying to figure out, I don't think it's as straightforward as many are taking it, there is something especially odd about the timeline of events. The EC connections of Marika didn't just disappear either but have to be re-evaluated ofc. That being said, the DLC actually brought really good evidence to things I was gonna talk about in part 3 of the theory, things that were purely speculation before that. So I am eating good.
You nailed it. The hornsent edified the crucible and horns. They also persecuted the numen/shaman. Marika was a shaman who achieved godhood and proceeded to massacre all hornsent, so they put a curse on the golden order which manifests as Omen.
I always assumed that killing the omen off was either a greater will thing or; or related to Marika wanting more control, but I never assumed that Marika would have been motivated by revenge for the shamans. It paints the whole conflict with even more shades of grey, and does a lot to “humanize” Marika becoming a god for a reason. It also really made Jar making a lot worse and gross too; the Hornsent had some interesting practices.
I like how every big reveal in both the main game and DLC serves to illustrate how Marika was even more of a turbo-bitch fuck-up than you initially thought.
I just wonder why RU-vidrs keep saying merika shattered the Elden ring and that caused the shattering war. The beginning of the game specifically says the demigods went mad with the shards of the Elden ring causing the shattering so doesn’t that mean it was destroyed afterwards?
And now we have the Hornsent. People around before the Golden Order? Check. No signs of being cursed? Check. Persecuted by the Golden Order? Double Check.
more often than not, I disagree in the practice of atribution, like the costume that S procedee of Z or N is equal to M that commonly is done with characters and cultures by the fandom, as well I am exceptic to give agency to the greater will, even if the game already does it, since taste to me like a scapegoat or pseudipanacea. WITH THAT SAID I LOVE YOUR THEORY (EVEN IF I DISAGREE IN SOME LESSER POINTS), I never consider the posibility that the uhl culture was the original ascenders of the nox, even if I consider them to be descenders of old liurnians (well, one thing don't abnegate the other)
Great video. The more I play the DLC, the more it's obvious that the Omen and the natural world order (the Crucible/Crucible era) have a larger part to play in the story of SotE.
Screw you Maliketh, screw you Radagon and Marika, screw you Morgott for betraying them, and screw the Greater Will along with its crapsack Erdtree, right?
Interesting theory. I've played a little of the DLC and so far it seems to match what you're saying. The omen-like entities seem much less defiled and cursed than the omens underneath Leyndell.
Because they are mistreated and filthy, the Hornsent warriors are absolute units and possess an ancient elegance. And the Curseblades wear those long drapes because they are ascetics.
I get that they are an oppressed group but like objectively having those horns is a detriment. I mean mohg is missing an eye because he has a horn growing into it. He will eventually die if it grows more. I don’t like that the only options are cutting the horns off or just not dealing with it at all
In relation to this curse that the omens have and the spirits summoned from it, what relation do the revenants, and wraith callers have to the curse with their wraith calling bells? The way the revenants summon in are also with that yellowy energy associated with the spirits. Both are found in filthy environments or in old swamped ruins, but they do not contain the spirits within themselves like the omen do/can. Also, omen with more and more horns seem to be directly related to being able to call forth more power of this curse. One example is the omen boss fight shows this, with the one shorn of horns uses a blood axe, and the one with many horn growths uses the curse. Sidenote on the revenants and wraith callers, what is their association with holiness versus healing? The royal revenant boss has innate holy resistance, but they also seem to operate on D&D principles of healing magic versus undead. Seems to be a very unusual set of distinct characteristics.
"Heresy is not native to the world; it is but a contrivance. All things can be conjoined." Considering Omens and Albinaurics alike can both have their eyes shine with gold to drop extra runes I don't think any of them are as cursed and reviled by life as some in the Lands Between think they are. I mean, we know Sites of Grace are in the Land of Shadow as well and they're likely connected to the Erdtree given the mounds of earth under the sprites indicating a connection to its root system.
This is a great theory and I'm confident it's at least a step in the right direction. But what I'm mire convinced of is that being "omen" or touched by the crucible was once very common, possibly even the norm, but the Golden Order has been systematically eliminating anyone with ties to the crucible and as such omen traits have diminished over time.
