I was reading a Gamesfag forum thread and I see a comment that said: "Oracle Link doesn't even know what the Triforce is, which would make no sense if he was the same Link from ALttP since he literally had the whole thing in his hands at the end"... Is that true? Because if is, that would be a strong argument for Encyclopedia.
Seriously, the Zelda franchise, up until BotW, went with the classic combination of using items to solve puzzles and help NPCs by doing quests. It's as if you took one of Sierra's old King's Quest games, add a non-linear world to explore and action combat, and bam! you have a Zelda clone.
I think the Temple of the Ocean King would be less hated if there were more checkpoints rather than just the halfway, but rewarded you for running through all the floors up to that point. I also think the Tower of Spirits dropped the ball on what they were trying to be as I see it as six dungeons in one spot rather than a large dungeon with six parts
As much as I would love this, this list basically just sounds like Oot or TP. Aounuma said that going forward they’re gonna keep going for that open style, so more cooking, more memories, more breakable weapons, and more openness. I wish we’d go back to a more classic style of Zelda, but it isn’t gonna happen 🥲
I don't think ANY of the races being in this game cause an issue for Downfall placement. The Zora are in Oracles and easily could've migrated, the Gerudo would've left after the first imprisoning war and therefore could return anytime. The Deku tree would just be further into the forest. And Deku Scrubs might be tied to the tree anyway, as in like Koroks or Kokiri. This is putting aside that I believe TOTK is set in the far future of the Downfall timeline anyway.
I personally dislike that they've made Echoes of Wisdom out of Link's Awakening HD artstyle. It feels like they're minimizing the game by not giving it another proper artstyle that isn't meant to imitate the look of the Gameboy Zelda games. Heck, Oracle games exist and could be remade with this artstyle. This game would have been perfect with an adaptation of A Link Between Worlds artstyle because it's the perfect middle ground of small & cute and visual & expressive. And since they based so much of the game off ALttP they might as well use it.
If the opening has the Ganon vs Link battle be playable, maybe it was actually a proper Boss Fight? And Ganon just teleported to the center of the stage for the cutscene? Or if it's all just a cutscene and they added that extra touch to be in line with how it would usually go if it were a playable Boss Fight.
Zelda leaves the dungeon without the hood and either it's given to her by Impa upon escaping the cell, or she goes into the rift early in the game to find it.
It almost seems like this is going to be an alternate timeline of A Link To The Past where after Link defeats Ganon he instead gets captured in the dark realm and then Zelda has to save him. That’s why there’s so much similarities to A Link To The Past. That’s my take on some of this crap.
Minish cap isn't my favorite but the disrespect there is crazzyyy. Yes it might be easy but that's not why people like that game it is charming as all hell and has some extremely creative gameplay
Regarding what sword Link is using. I thought it looked kind of like the goddess sword from Skyward Sword. Same color and similar hilt shape. Another detail not brought up is that during gameplay footage, on the left screen there are 4 arrows which represent the D-pad on the bottom left end of the controller. The tri rod is mapped to the right or east arrow. Which makes me wonder, if Zelda will get more items. Maybe she might get a rapier or light arrows or something new and those will be accessed by the dpad over time, I mean its typical for Nintendo to hold back info when it comes to games during the announcement trailer.
I'm very happy to see a realm that Is true to Zelda.. Castle, death Mountain and forests..theres also a Fairy simalar to navi and Classic looking soldiers..finally..BUT i would prefer Zelda to fight with sword and shield plus Echos when needed..but looks like its Just echos for now. As for Linear narrative i would prefer Freedom like in breath of the wild but main quest at choice.
Hmmm... I know The Minish Cap has a bakery or something similar where you can buy food... in my mind, they might have bread, sandwiches, and slices of pie? I would assume that's where you can find a croissant
um, i mean, the oracle games had pretty much all of the things your mentioning at the end, both zora tribes, gereudo in the form of kote and koume, deku scrubs, even their own versions of the great deku tree. but at the very least most of the downfall timeline is littered with river zora blasting us since the original game.
I'm really confident that its a sequel to Links Awakening, not just the same artstyle but the exact same design outright, plus the Link to the Past similar world design.
You called it Essay!! This is gonna be awesome. I'm a old school 2D Zelda guy from way back, and I'm glad they've went this route and game us a new 2D game. I was worried about puzzles. You how are they gonna move past the old, light the torches, bomb the wall, kill all the enemies approach. Well, it appears they thought of that as well. Nintendo is WAY too good at what they do. See ya Essay. Good job predicting the future.
I mean it's not really a "2D Zelda game" it'd be more accurate to call it a "top down Zelda game", also considering we have deku's, gerudo and both types of Zora I hope we'll get gorons too
I think sense before Ganon "dies" he is looking up maybe he is laughing? my theory is after getting beat up by Link he striked his trident into the ground then teleported away.
I think they are. I don't think Nintendo really cares about the timeline in any release. it's just something they made for fun. And they reserved the right to rewrite it as they please based on discoveries from new legends
You do actually see the Zora tribe in the downfall timeline. Regular Zora are in oracle of ages and river Zora or Zola are in most downfall games as an enemy. This kind of looks to me like it will take place in the downfall timeline, however we see that the timeline is not actually important to Nintendo and is more like fan service, so it could very well take place elsewhere.
I made sure to specify we hadn't seen them in Hyrule specifically but they did exist in other lands. Who knows how much emphasis they will actually put on the timeline, if at all.
Here are my predictions: the Ganon at the start was an echo; the king of Hyrule was replaced by an echo while Link was adventuring; the rift world will most likely be called the Echo World, the Copy World or something to that affect; Zelda will have to make echos of Link to help fight the final boss (may or may not be Ganon); Tri is either the emodiment of the Triforce of Wisdom or is somehow connected to it.
It's funny... when I was a kid, coming off OoT and MM... I couldnt stand the art design of WW. Didn't buy a Gamecube cuz of it, and became a Playstation convert. Now, with the LA art style... and subsequently this game... I am so down for more games like this.
The only thing that I liked about Link’s Awakening was the story. I didn’t care for the art style, the dungeons gave me a headache, and the overworld was annoying to navigate around. However, the abilities in Echos of Wisdom actually look really interesting and it seems like they have incorporated some Tears of the Kingdom aspects like building and re creating certain items to help you navigate the overworld. I can’t wait!
8:25 On the contrary, I believe art design is one of the best indicators of where a game should be on the timeline! For example, all the games on the Adult Timeline share the same artstyle. And most games on the Fallen Timeline also share the same artstyle. Games with a similar look are usually related. The only exception to this rule is the Vaati games, which most people agree are placed really randomly on the timeline. I'm sure you would agree that those games would fit better alongside one another (Minish Cap, and Both Four Swords Games). Otherwise, congratulations on predicting the next game would be a 2D game! I also never noticed that Zelda was "breaking into" Gerudo town. But it makes total sense given that she is sneaking over the wall.
Thanks! Great point, most cases do point to the art style playing a role in the timeline or being related to the games it shares a style with. It could be an indication but we should all be careful not to automatically assume it will be.
@@GameEssays I think there are only 2 explanations. It's either a sequel to the Oracle games (linked games ending) or a sequel to zelda 1 on the nes taking place before link's adventure. Cannot be alttp sequel, doesnt fit lorewise, and cannot be a sequel to links awakening since it was a dream.
@@GhashlordIt absolutely could be after LA. LA was a dream but the events were real. It could be set after Link returns from that adventure. I doubt its after Zelda 1 or Zelda 2. IMO its set a distance apart but consecutively in Hyrule from one of the games using the LTTP world map. So its either before LTTP, after LA, after the Oracles (these games aren't set in Hyrule), or after LBW/TFH.
@@JaidynReiman cant be before alttp since this starts with link fighting Ganon. They can retcon the oracle games that ganon found his way to hyrule or something which is why link is fighting him. As far as i know koholint and all the events on links awakening arent real. It cannot be after links adventure since the zelda on that game is a different zelda. For me is after zelda 1 or the oracle games.
I'm looking forward to "Echoes of Wisdom". I like that they're making a game where Zelda is the protagonist and has a power which fits her character. I'm a bit concerned that the ability to summon any object will lead to heavy menu usage, which hurt my enjoyment of TotK. But I think pausing to pick an item will be more acceptable in a puzzle game, which this seems to be. The "Links Awakening" remake also had some performance problems on the overworld, so hopefully Nintendo will figure out how to keep item summoning from making that problem worse.
The menu scrolling is my biggest concern too. I hope they figure out a way to make it a smooth experience. I'm guessing there will be a pretty strict limit on echoes to keep performance from suffering.
Nintendo is one of the only companies that can do the role reversal and NOT piss people off by getting high on their own egotistical agenda, -I know they don’t have an agenda, that’s an American gaming thing, This game looks amazing and I have full faith this game is going to be amazing
Nintendo has been hesitant for a long time to pull this. Its obvious they wanted to do it right. Aonuma in an interview said "if we made Zelda the protagonist, what would Link do?" I like how this game gets around that by having Link fight Ganon at the beginning and gets captured after the fact.
@@GameEssays oh for sure on both points, -forgive my pessimistic brain on these things but I’ve just been disappointed too many times to not bring it up, -I will add that given the style and the experimentation of the echo mechanic, this game is gonna be quite an experience, -praise be Nintendo,
is it a role reversal though? Does Zelda have the triforce of courage, gets the Master Sword, conquers 5-8 dungeons collecting the macguffins from those dungeons to defeat ganon? Or are we playing Zelda in her role? Not every game has Zelda imprisoned or unconscious or playing the role of leader. Some games, like Ocarina of Time, have Zelda on her own adventure that we don't see, but we gets bits and pieces of. In Ocarina of Time she did such things as free Ruto from the ice, defend Link and maybe Kakariko village from Bongo Bongo when it escaped the well. acquired the light arrows somehow, imprisoned ganondorf with the aid of the sages. These are the things that come to mind, i'm sure there might be others, and much more that we don't know. I believe Nintendo can make "The Legend of Zelda: The Adventures of Zelda" without it being "The Legend of Zelda: It Turns Out Link Unnecessary." This game doesn't need to be a role reversal. Just an adventure from the perspective of the other hero in our trio of main characters.
