🐐 CLOSER TO GOAT?! 🐐 Stephen A. & Shannon ANIMATED over Mahomes-Brady & LeBron-MJ | First Take 

😂😂man

But I ain’t DO baby

You prolly 12 years old

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Ayo !!

Bruh I was about to say that

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@@azariahworku1231 I had to reread the title 😂

It's all ridiculous - LeBron blew any and all chance at getting to MJ's level by summer 2011. it''s been a media con-job ever since.

@@shaft9000 my brother I do not care about the MJ and Bron debate.

Cause it's rigged

This is how the NBA became what it was Magic Larry to Michael to Shaq to Kobe to LeBron to Chef

@@jesuscarrillo2498not rigged at all

I just wanna see how Jim harbargh is gon try to stop him next season is gon be a good one

​@jesuscarrillo2498 So if it's rigged, how much money are did you win?? If it is a sure thing, you definitely took out a $10k loan and out it all on the Chiefs WEEKS ago, right??

Bad break up coming

I'm glad you called them Shaq and Kobe instead of, say, Kariya and Selanne. It seriously irked me when some people had the audacity to compare Shedeur Sanders, a scrambling system QB, to Tom Brady just because Brady offered him a little bit of advice.

No Stephen.A is a jealous SNAKE🐍 HATING on Shannon’s PODCAST Numbers🤫

I agree😂😂😂

Yea Stephen cant share the spotlight like Shaq

That’s why I stopped watching. Same topics, different day

@@OGMillyMillz_ yeah i just saw this on my feed for the first time in awhile but it seems like its the same topic since 2021 with mahomes, after every game he plays lol

It’s sports media in a nutshell lol I will say though I think First Things First is brilliant in making things feel new, granted Nick Wright can be a bit of a know it all & he knows it lol but he’s good at his job!

@@marckusduverger9776 lmfao agreed if nick wright wasnt the biggest dickhead when it comes to the chiefs and lebron, he'd be the best out of all the media heads.

​@@larryking2698can say the same about skip when it comes to tom Brady and MJ.

Because he was, Brady’s was a Game Manger his first few Championships

Because Peyton is better, Brady fs is greater but not a better qb

​@@SteloPacinobrady won 3 rings in his first 4 seasons without a hof on offense and the most overrated hc in nfl history, same coach that was 5-11 the year before and 0-2 to start the season with that same "great" defense and 100 mil qb in Bledsoe, and tom beat him in the afc championship and superbowl in his 40s

Having a ring doesn’t make you better. That’s in any sport. There’s so many examples I don’t even get into it. With that being said, I don’t think Manning was better than Brady.

@@willcolbert1406this was maybe true 6 years ago. Brady separated himself

They know what they're doing and they know their audience. They aren't dumb.

Shannon is TV gold.

Proving the point of my other comment, you photocopied another comment and replaced the word CRAZY with INSANE. I loathe and despise you deplorable elementary school dropouts

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SAS gonna stab Unc in the back… just watch he did it to Kellerman

My girl told me that last night .

I cried😂😂😂😂

He ain’t lyin!

@@RH126B he is lying. the problem with the refs is their inconsistent calls. the players aren't soft

I worry yal dudes minds nowadays

this was def a bet they had to see who could say it on camera first

Y’all be so fruity

@@derrickmason7457man fr

Only the media thinks Lebron and MJ is a goat debate. They have been shoving it down our throats for years. No one outside of the media thinks LeBron is the goat

yep because mahomes isnt in the same stratosphere yet

Which proves who is closer

Yea but Mahomes is only 28. If he’s able to play until he’s 40 something like Brady and keeps playing at this level it’s not out of the question that he can catch him. But he has a lot more to do for sure.

@@JD-ge9eb If it’s based off rn Lebron is closer but Pat has the better chance to pass Brady obviously because Lebron career is almost over. He’s not gonna win 2 more rings as the main option at his age.

​@JD-ge9eb The issue is Kelce, Chris Jones, and Andy Reid aren't 28. If Mahomes wants to catch Brady and he certainly is on pace, then I think he will have to win without one if not all of them at some point and win just as much.

Who cares what Brady has? You guys are so threatened by somebody being close to Brady LoL 😆

It's over, Mahomes is the goat all you haters are worried and keep trying to cling on but your grip is slipping 😂😂😂

And then you came to find the RU-vid clip and commented 😂

Shannon is delusional, or he works for Klutch. Maybe both. Watching him and Gilbert Arenas is Lebron TV

Their debates are funny. I'm glad he left undisputed cuz Shannon and skip debates were stupid. Skip had no respect for Shannon.

Yeah, Unc was out of pocket for saying that, and not attaching Pippin to Jordan's hip as the main part of his "goat" status.

Lebron pass MJ back in 2016

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@@dadillonfulfacts, Jordan never beat a team that’s good as the 2016 warriors or the 2013 spurs

Jordan been passed for 8 years already

Even more scary is they're gonna be getting weapons in free agency

Travis ain't nothing average

Mahomes really did do this & he let us know too, crazy that he’s still getting better. Kelce’s a beast too! Dude is unstoppable

The pocket presence too! Mahomes doesn’t even panic

@@DonniDixemTravis aint no WR

mahomes could be on a different plane of existence

Ali and Russell are the components that jumpstarted the Big Bang that jump started our big bang

More like MJ is Olympus Mon

Lebum is not on any mountain. Reality,he's not top 10. He's media created. LeBron doesn't know what greatness is.

​@@LuisGallegos-fh1vq 🤓

I loathe and despise you deplorable elementary school dropouts. Unoriginal ba$tard$ and booty hole obsessed soy boys

Even Nick Wright isn't that committed...😂

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Trash era 😂 don’t forget about those 6 expansion teams they added in 89’ 💩

More teams lead to more competition. Some of the greats like Kevin Garnett played for one of those expansion teams. Crappy eras like the current NBA, add meaningless in season tournament and a play in tournaments to generate revenue, because viewership and ticket sales are down due to an unwatchable product and bad play.

@@internationalpeanut1488you dumd as f*ck with that L take 😂

​@@internationalpeanut1488typical nonsense media espn narrative points

​@@CurtisT1019 depends on the quality of the team

he passed peyton last year tbh. His playoff record is way better than mannings ever was

Nah mahomes is 2nd ngl

@@globaldy8264 Montana 4-0 in super bowls. 11 tds 0 ints. He is still #2 for now.

If manning had reid, kelce and that defense he'd be more successful. Dont get me started on having hill for his first few years.

I absolutely HATE Chiefs fan but this is 100% right. Mahomes is a baddddd man

No, he just sat up there and didn't let Shannon talk while he just kept saying words.

​@@user-vu1iv1mm3m let them live in their own little bubble. You can't change someone else's nostalgia but the proof is in your face soo...

@@Kobiyashi77 Lol after LeBron retires see how fast the GOAT talk fades. Less championships and less MVPs than MJ but he's somehow better.

@@unc54 Lol you do realize when he retires they're gonna go back and look at younger bron vs older bron? people forget easily and they think old man bron is STILL at its peak. 09 bron 12 bron and 18 bron is on another level. But good luck fading that LOL.

What about bron vs kobe?

Exactly

What about Bradshaw? 4 beats 3.

hes def better than joe. even when joe was playing, there were guys more talented than him where as mahomes is the most talented and is consistently winning to. Also mahomes is doing this without hall of fame defenses and maybe the grestest player ever (jerry rice). i think brady is the only one with an argument because his accomplishments are just extraordinary.

@@muddywaters2818 bradshaws not top 10

@@larryking2698Joe won his first Super Bowl before Rice was ever in the league. Joe made Rice. Go fug yourself.

@@larryking2698 4 SB’s as a starting QB… umm if he’s not top 10, then Mahomes, Brady, and Montana aren’t either.

Brady and Montana for now are more accomplished but noether had done as much in their first 6 yrs as mahomes has and mahomes is way more physically gifted than they are

@@user-we2ng5cq8h You're equating talent to mobility. Brady makes every throw Mahomes makes, but does it standing tall in the pocket. Also Brady had 3 superbowls in his first 4 years as a starter. Thats literally more than Mahomes did in his. Mahomes is also playing in an entirely different league rules wise. so comparing first 6 years stats is disengenous at best. Mahomes last season went for 27tds 14ints. Brady from 2007 to retirement never had a season with a sub 2:1 TD:Int ratio. Mahomes last season is literally worse than any Brady season from 2007 to retirement.

No one acts like that, what are you talking about? Jordan accomplished FAR more in 15 years than Lebron has in 21…Jordan is 6-0 in the Finals, Lebron is 4-6…anyone with any good sense or logic can see Lebron isn’t even close to Jordan…Top 5 maybe but better than Jordan or Kareem not even close

@jhad777 You're literally doing it now dingus. Jordan also has 3 straight first round exists with 2 of them being sweeps. He shot below league average from 3 for his career, and was never the best defensive player on his championship teams. His finals competition was also subpar. Nobody ignores his 6-0 but Bill is 11-1 and people like you forget that. Jordan averaged 3 more points a game because he took 3 more shots a game and never had to be relied upon for rebounds and assists and had competent coaching with ownership. Other than rings (weak argument) what makes Jordan the goat?

@@suivatra123 3 Straight but he made the playoffs with nobody’s those years…Lebron missed the playoffs completely first 2 years, and you are wrong again, League average in the 90’s was 33% Jordan shot league average for his entire Bulls career, you don’t have to lie bro

He's 39 but I get your point

Brady Already Stomped Mahomes in SB and Beat Him in AFCCG...Trajectory to Surpass Brady Does Not Exist....That Debate Been Over

Accolades when mj played in a much weaker era. There were no scoring guards untill Ai came into the nba. Mj played a bunch of guys who couldn’t dribble or shoot. Scoring titles are the title u get when u shoot the most shot attempts in the nba each year. Only way mj won those cause he lead the nba in shot attempts. Bron became the leading scorer passing mj in points in 1200 less shots attempts and became the #1 scorer without leading the nba in shots…..while being #4 in assist. Bron generated the most points by far

@@jackwoods9604 Tampa bay defense did not Brady.

@@moneymoney3235 You Mean The Era When NBA Played Defense?

lol Lebron played 1.5 times longer than MJ and still doesn’t have as many rings

When 3-1 people say it’s Jordan over Lebron that is absolute

Jordan, Kobe, Shaq and Pippen played 70 years in the NBA... they played less than half of those years with Coach Phil Jackson... 33/70... but in those 33 years they won a combined 21 championships... how much they win without phil? Shaq won one... other three didnt... coaching is the main factor. Stephen A knows that

Hmm… last time I checked… Kobe nor MJ had to team hop to create superstar teams… They built them shiii’s…. they didn’t run from the competition

@@williamsc2429 then you know nothing about basketball 😂😂😂

@@williamsc2429y’all make it seem like just because players team up that mean they don’t have to compete. how many super teams we’ve seen fail in the league?

LJ is top 15

Kobe got swept by dat same team wen he just won 2 championships in a row 😂 don’t forget about dat part

Jordan miss the playoffs with wizards And was losing in the first before pippen

@@juwanharris5425bron missed the playoffs with the cavs and lakers

⁠@@internationalpeanut1488Kobe not Mj so who cares

Lebron is mediocre with AD + a deep team. Also miss playoffs.@@juwanharris5425

Yeah Lebron been playing longer so he’s accomplished more but Pat is on a faster pace to possibly pass the GOAT in the same breath Lebron and MJ never played each other so Brady has wins against Pat.

Kobe Bryant is more closer to MJ. You don’t know nothing about basketball kid 😂 😂

@@skylee4924LeBron does everything better than Kobe except free throws 😂😂 and if you wanna say rings than why isn’t bill Russell the goat😂

Nah

@@datsapaddlinBrady played hella years too….mahomes doing it way faster and Brady lost to Eli manning twice

What about MJ's first round exits? And then there is his last 2 years with the Wizards that MJ believers love to erase along with it. Not to mention the fact that 6 finals losses isn't even a knock to someones career, MJ couldn't get to the finals without his HOF teammates and coach; Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Phil Jackson. MJ would be nowhere without them while Lebron has won on 3 different teams in a more difficult era.

@@user-vu1iv1mm3m what did his HOF teammates and coach do when he left for 2 years? and what happened when he came back?

@@giarc3908they made it past the first round 😂 sum he couldn’t do without them lol

@@user-vu1iv1mm3m Yawn...

Pippen made all-nba and defensive first team, they had a winning record, went on 2 separate 10 game winning streaks without MJ, and made it past the first round... MJ was just a cog to Phil Jackson's bulls. Phil Jackson going and getting another 3-peat in LA is just more evidence of this.@@giarc3908

They Will Just Bring up Eli Beating Brady Twice as if That NEGATES Brady Beating Mahomes Twice...Anything to Discredit Brady and Prop up Mahomes

​@@jackwoods9604it won't lol. Eli got in the way of Tom having 9 of them lol. And if it weren't for the Mannings, Tom Brady would probably be a 12 time champion right now. Peyton and Eli were basically the only ones that got in his way. Pat don't got to face nothing like that now that. Especially now that Tom... his kryptonite is retired.

@@imhi2950 9 Rings Would Not Matter Either...Sports Media is a Soap Opera That Will Call a QB The GOAT Over Brady With "0" Rings...They Already Tried Debating Lamar Over Brady

Deflate gate spygate

I personally don’t put too much stock into the head to head results of Mahomes v Brady. You have Brady with 20 years of league experience still playing MVP caliber football during his SB run vs KC. Mahomes was only in his 3rd full year as a starter. Then you have Mahomes still maturing at the time when they faced off and who admitted himself when he was drafted he didn’t know how to read defenses when he came into the league. Very hard to put too much stock into a matchup with players in very different stages of their careers. The scary thing is QBs tend to hit their prime in their early 30s. And Mahomes is only 28.