My mom saw this when it came out and the Scotty playing amazing grace on the bagpipes affected her so much that she would cry any time she heard it, regardless of whether it was connected to Star Trek or not. It had such an impact in her that she had a recording of that song played in the bagpipes for her fathers funeral.
I never would've thought I'd cry watching a Star Trek movie, but they managed to make me actually sob when Spock died. "I have been and always shall be, your friend."
@@Datan0de I'm not gonna lie, had a little tear watching it in this clip. STILL. Just bought the 1st 10 Star Trek movies to show my grandson. Only Old Yeller has made him cry so far.
That score is awesome. I love the part where Khan first appears to the Enterprise and attacks. The buildup and the full range of the orchestra during this part is absolutely brilliant.
Well, minty, James Horner who did the score for Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan is no longer with us because he was killed in a plane crash back in 2015.
raven lord I read about that in Leonard Nimoy’s book: “I Am Spock.” Not to be confused with its predecessor... 🖖😏 All kidding aside, Spock was always my favorite character. I was devastated when we lost Leonard in 2015. Even though Star Trek’s original Pilot episode, The Cage, was produced nine or ten years before I was born (1964-65?), I grew up with all three seasons and eventually kept following the Franchise up until The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine. On a side note, I never understood the rivalry between Star Trek and Star Wars fans. I love them both equally!
@@Tony-dh7mz citation needed, mate. All of my sources say that you are totally and completely wrong. The director himself says it was real: www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/09/10/ricardo-montalbans-chest-real-or-fake-star-trek-wrath-of-khan/603958001/
No kidding. That was definitely scarring to my childhood self. As a kid, I was always afraid that a giant slug was going to burrow in to my brain through my ear while I was asleep. 😅😂
It's a sad commentary that after 37 years no one has made a better Trek. Same with Blade Runner as a cyberpunk film. The early 1980s was truly the Golden Age!
Very true. They've either returned to phases of the over-seriousness of 'The Motion Picture', or the later ones with are just rather soulless CGI 'adventures'. 'The Voyage Home' (for actually just taking a breath and having a laugh for a change) and the TNG-era 'First Contact' have come close, but sadly most of the other movies IMO, whilst I don't HATE them, were hardly outstanding.
Undiscovered Country and First Contact place for 2nd and 3rd and are incredible additions to the Star Trek world. Nothing beat wrath of course or ever will.
Prefer the TNG era, though i do admit i prefer Voyager over DS9, and i actually liked Enterprise, particularly T'pol, that alien can abduct me anytime, especially if it's to watch her have a strip-debate vs 7of9, or in her prime Crusher...mmmm gates mcfadden, classy kind of sexy
Jim Cameron Doesn’t even come close. Atrocious music, as opposed to one of the best soundtracks ever in the original, a totally redundant appearance of Deckard, emotionally lacking plot. Only cinematography was on par.
One of my favorite films of all time. I was 7 when it was released, and I saw it in theaters. I miss Leonard Nimoy, but I have the honor to share the same birthday with him, but obviously many years later. Live long and prosper Leonard.
Not only did they change the timing of Spock's death because of the leak, they added a fake-out death at the beginning during the Kobayashi Maru scene to throw people off so they would be surprised at the end when it happened for real. Also, while there is a rivalry between Trek and Wars fans, Gene Roddenberry and George Lucas actually respected each other quite a bit.
James Horner's soundtrack is pretty badass to listen even though he recycled some of the score from Wolfen, Battle Beyond the Stars, Humanoids from the deep, and used Khan's music for Aliens.
Finally Minty. The greatest Star Trek that ever was and ever will be! I watched this in a drive in theater when it came out. It was a drive in that you could get chilly dogs and french fries.
There was so much that could go wrong with his escape plan. If Kirk was wrong he would have doomed everyone to be buried alive. Kirk always had a hidden undercurrent of doubt that he hid with bluster. His take on what it means to be a leader and captain is complicated.
Spock dying at the end of the film was a better choice unlike Transformers the 1986 film where Optimus Prime dies at the beginning of the movie. Leonard Nimoy also voiced Galvatron.
Supposedly the script was changed, Prime was supposed to die at the end of the movie, though I have no proof to this, but I have heard it over and over
The beginning of a wonderful arc trilogy. Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Voyage Home, Undiscovered Country and First Contact are the All-time best Star Trek Movies. The less said about the crappy Kelvin timeline (or REBOOTS), the better.
Hey, what about Star Trek V? That was basically a featurelength TOS episode. With pretty much the same budget. And a great story about family, friendship, the pain inside of us that.. dispite hurting us so much... is an important part of our character... and of course.. faith and how far you'd be willing to go for it. And with that premise i think that makes a good flick. Paramount should have given Shatner a bigger budget for it. Seriously.
The soundtrack for this movie is absolutely great. I have the cd and listen to it often. The death of Spock was a great and powerful scene, but then felt like a gimmick after they brought him back. I've always thought that Spock's death was leaked intentionally to drive up interest in the film and get people to the theater.
It was intentional. The leak was from Gene Roddenberry himself, according to Shatners' book, '" M0VIE MEM0RIES"'. Gene also leaked about the ENTERPRISE destruction in TR£K III
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This was a sci-fi treat when I was a kid. And despite Nemoy wanting to kill off Spock, his arc still led to the Voyage Home, which is one of my favorite Star Trek movies ever.
some possible alternate titles. funny to think what they might imply by changing one word... Star Trek II: The Conniption of Khan The Annoyance of Khan The Frustration of Khan The Unrest of Khan The Temper Tantrum of Khan The Apoplexy of Khan The Pout of Khan The Sulk of Khan The Mope of Khan
It was Roddenberry who deep-sixed the idea of having Saavik be the Vulcan plotter in the Undiscovered Country. Instead, the studio went with Kim Cattrall's Lt. Valarus. Had Saavik been a ring leader it would have made the sense of betrayal felt by Kirk and especially Spock, seem so much more profound than in the actual movie.
I remember seeing Star Trek the Motion Picture at the theater in 1979 at the age of four. Now at 43, the original is still boring, but Wrath of Khan was next level, and has always been my favorite of the whole series.
11:45. Your react to the 'figures' made me lol. In Fasa's defense, they were more known for their metal starship models, that you'd assemble and paint. I had about 15 or 20 of them. The cool thing was some nice detailing and the prices varied because they were all in scale to one another. So when Star Trek III came along and the Excelsior came out, it was twice as big as the Enterprise.
Star Trek The Motion Picture could've been edited down to just 45 minutes. Because it was originally written to be a pilot episode for a new Star Trek T.V. show to be called Star Trek: Phase Two.
The Motion Picture is pretty much perfect as it is. If you enjoy it depends mostly on your expectations. If you want serious, adult SF, then this is for you. If you want stupid boom boom kids SF, you'll of course prefer Wrath of Khan (or the incredibly great Starship Troopers)
Motion Picture was okay, but I kind of prefer the 83 TV version that made it more like a TV pilot. They sold this version on VHS in the late 80's. I actually found that version more fun to watch because as a young kid, I did better with detail and having Spock, Uhura, and McCoy express how big V'Ger was. I also liked the Kirk scenes outside the ship, although they never really shot the memory wall scenes completely before it was scrapped. And the longer scenes at the end as they travel through V'Ger was deeper in that version. The Director's Edition salvaged a lot of the TV version, but didn't go totally overboard with scenes like a Ensign/Yomen taking over the weapons console for Decker after Chekov gets hurt, and Chekov returning and telling her he'll take over. I do miss the computer voice that was removed from the Special Edition. "Emergency Alert. Negative control at helm."
So the TV Version was an "Extended" Version, where they cut back in everything they found on the cutting room floor to be somewhat "exclusive", like they did for the 3-hrs TV versions of Dune and Superman ? I missed the original version of Motion Picture in the cinemas, so I'm primarily familiar with the DVD Director's cut.
It made me laugh out loud when I saw it first - then I started to wonder if the rumors were really going to be true at all. So, not only was it funny, it was effective!
The first time, I totally let it go as a one-time slip up. The second time, I let it go again. Now the third time. It’s called the “U.S.S. Enterprise” NOT the “U.S. Enterprise” (two “S”s, as in “United Star Ship” not “United States.”)
I have this soundtrack on vinyl and it's probably 1 of my favorite albums of all time not just for movies but literally to listen Of all time. Thank you Mr. Horner.
"Admiral Kirrrk. You have 60 seconds to turn over all data and material regarding Project Genesis or I will destroy your ship." "Please, the bridge is smashed, the computer's inoperative. I'm going to need at least a minute." "Do not insult my intelligence, Kirrrrrk; sixty seconds and no longer!"
I recall seeing TWOK and the theater showing it advertised a "special presentation" that made the run-time about 3 hours. Turned out that they showed the TOS episode "Space Seed" on the wide screen before TWOK, giving the audience the background on Khan and Kirk's history.
The "leak" is also why they wrote the simulation scene in the beginning of the film so that the audience would see him die and then realize that it wasn't real.
Star Trek 2 saved the franchise, and stands out ,as one of the best out of all the films in the franchise, part 4 was good also and the kept the franchise alvie.😎👍
I agree, many Trekkies and science fiction fans in general felt that Wrath Of Khan was a better story and more like the Star Trek tv series than The Motion Picture was. It is surprising to me that more merchandise was not released in 1982 to promote the movie. Thankfully, Diamond Select Toys finally made Wrath Of Khan action figures and even a Phaser replica to make up for this oversight.
Love both franchises, but Star Trek will always have my heart. Plus, every time I watch Star Wars, I hear a theatrical, echoey voice in my head saying, "WIZARDS IN SPACE!!!!!"
Minty you actually heard my request YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!! This is one of my favorite movies of all time from the script to the score for the movie by far the best Star Trek movie of all time and that's including those new movies with Chris Pine. Been watching Star Trek since the original tv show and never thought i would ever shed a tear at a Star Trek scene....thanks Minty coming all the way from Chicago 😁😊👍👍
I recently got one of my best friends into Star Trek and I just showed her this movie for the first time!! She was devastated about Spock (our fave!), but luckily we watched the next two movies just a few days later. I can't imagine what it would have been like having to wait 2 years to see him come back! I hope you'll cover more Star Trek movies in future videos!
Mostly the time of production I would say. It was long in pre-production, principle photography and post-production. And the longer it takes, the longer the meter is running.
1:03 Amazing Beam-in! I loved this movie. The story, continuity, drama, and music were amazing. 11:59 I think another reason why no real toys, is in that era few kids were StarTrek fans and the industry didn't recognize adults as toy lovers. So interesting that the leak improved the movie!
A bit of perspective from someone who was there, as this film was a pretty big moment from my childhood. First, that Star Trek watch was pretty expensive for back then, and I don't think a lot of kids at that time would have expected such a thing unless their parents were rich. The other thing about merchandising: I really didn't expect toys from star Trek; it seemed Star Trek, to my mind even then, was the grown-up version of Star Wars and therefore would have no toys associated with it. Excellent video, as usual.
