11 CRAZYMAKING BEHAVIORS OF A COVERT NARCISSIST: Why These Relationships Are So Frustrating! 

Damn 😭

Straight from the mouth of babes.

My kids have said that too. 💔

Yep. At "home" with a narcissist everything makes you sick. To the point that, if you are free after many years of the abuse, you receive joy from the smallest things in life; stuff no normal person is ever grateful for.

Agnieszka Libera Yup. That's where I'm at, and it's exactly why I'm done, and I'm leaving. And now that he knows I'm serious and really ending it, he is beginning to get angry & vindictive towards me. Our grown youngest daughter still lives with us, is a senior in college, just trying to graduate, so she can move out. He is ramping up his anger toward me now, and she is miserable having to live with us. It makes me feel just awful for her. But he is the instigator in everything, no matter how much grey rock I employ. I can't wait to leave. I'm stuck here until an apartment opens and my application is accepted; because it has now been a month and a half separated in the same house, he is beginning to become pushy about it, because he's angry that I'm ending it. He is spinning around in all directions, no matter what I do. And knows good and well, I have NOWHERE TO GO yet. Nowhere. I have a job, but only just started. Won't have my first paycheck for another week-- and that only partial, one day, because I started on last day of pay period. The full check won't be until August. He is getting pushy because he knows I have no options. But yes, I feel so much happier and better, when I'm away from him. I can't WAIT til I get out; the sooner the better!!

Yes!! Absolutely true!

100% . If you bring up any rational point , or try to convey an issue between you two, it must be derailed and scrambled.

Or when you get too close to uncovering something they have done that's harmful to a relationship

I experienced that he shifted the conversation topic so very often and quickly when it got uncomfortable for him to handle what we were discussing. A nother strange thing I reacted on was that when textmessaging (which we did a lot) I almost never could have guessed what he were going to responded to me in the conversation... It used to puzzle me that I always got a respons/answer that I didn't expect. What I thought should be an obvious respons/answer in the conversation did almost never happen.

Oh my god. Thank you for this.

Correct!

This is an excellent description!!

That's true I experienced it myself

Exactly

oh, this hit hard

Anything to shift responsibility 😔

Yes, my ex did that. It got to the point that I wouldn't even challange him on anything anymore. It wasn't worth it. And the stuff he would throw back at me was so lame, it was like comparing apples to oranges..it was crazy.. making. I used to just think, he sucked so bad at arguing and it was so toxic, it couldn't last. NOTHING ever got resolved.

Shawna Deyo my new favorite? “Let’s just move ahead from here.” Uh huh. (Until you wanna talk about something I did yesterday).

Yeah, my ex used the one bad day I had as an excuse for every mean thing she did for the next 18 months.

@@debsabatino311 This hits home too, my ex would do crazy insensitive things and when called out on it, would bring up things like I hadn't gotten her flowers in a month instead of an apology.

My last relationship deflected off her recent and Current (!) behavior by continually bringing up something i shared from 3 years ago, which was 2.5 years before i even met her!

LIterally describing an event from 2 years prior claiming you did "this" or "that". When you correct them and replay the real event and that you actually did they opposite they respond with "well that was so long ago I can't remember every detail". Wait, what?!

True

Sneaky sadists.. YES the sabotage is maddening

Yes....yes

I'm sorry, but you...

@@chrissearcher3563 *names unrelated thing that happened 2 years ago*

Yuuup. My Narc father did something very inconsiderate and toxic to me (and this was actually the incident that made me realize he was a Narcissist and didn't give a shit about me only the attention I got him) and when I said I didn't want to interact with him until he apologized and he did.... technically but it was an "I'm sorry but-" and then went into this long fillabuster of guilt tripping me for being a bad daughter "I'm sorry but my life is so hard." "You're never there for me" blablabla. He didn't care about what he did to me, how he hurt me. He only cared that his actions inadvertently took away the supply I was providing for him up until that point. Especially since our whole family took my side and not his. He had to desperately scramble to save face and somehow make me out to be the bad guy.

The 3 step apology. 1)I'm sorry I hurt you 2) I don't think what I did was that bad tho 3) I did nothing wrong why do you alway have to pick holes in me.

"It's my fault. I am just trying to help you. Yes I told them that extremely personal thing you repeatedly asked me not to, but it was because I want to help you and now so do they" Me: "Um, help with what? I told you those personal things in confidence of which you now have broken. Had I known you would have done this, I would have never told you about it. My trust is broken with you because of this." I mean, I could do this for DAYS, but these are the verrry mild sentences as examples. They don't appear bad at first, but then they keep going until they find someone who will concur with their beliefs. How do they sleep at night? Mystery to me still...

Exactly. Not all of them are overt. They pretend to be your friend while sabotaging you. The "nice guys" are probably some of the worst because of their grandiosity. Its sickening

Can relate. My family member acts like everybody’s best friend in public/a big family guy. But at home, doesn’t interact with us at all.

@@jensbasement3862 mine 48 years old, BEAUTIFUL LADY, , bich owned me then threw me out

Exactly how I've seen them...wolf's in sheep clothing

Ohh yea, being ghosted or even one word texts. Sickos

yes!!!! then u end up apologizing because u just want to everything good again

Rachael Santiago omg I did and he ignored my apology

Maybe they genuinely want you to leave them alone.

@@SimulationWinks No. It’s purely a game. Narcissists don’t genuinely do anything. It’s all tactics and games. (A normal person on the other hand doing that would genuinely want to be left alone.)

Kaitlyn Sorum me too

did we date the same person? incredible likeness to my ex as well

This gave me goosebumps.

Robert Gray I just wanted to start clapping!!!! Holy SHHHHHH! This is truth.

Oh my god, the EXACT same happened to me. It’s incredible how textbook their behavior is!

Amen!

I wish I could like this 3 times. They "love" you to get something out of it. In my case housing.

Right??!!! Then follow up with stuff like, "You never pay attention to what I'm saying, so why should I even try?" or, "All you care about is my actions, but you never care/pay attention to my motives" (then proceeds to throw out excuses as to why I should pay attention to what they meant instead), or nitpick some tangent that diverts from the main topic at hand (like how they're not using "excuses", but giving "reasons", and advocating their perceived, significant differences between the two).

@@dreyddog19 I hear you, When they say I LUV YOU its really I LUV what YOU DO 4 me Its ALL about them

@@Vykeera I hear you, They are blame shifting, gaslighting, being deflective and non accountable all while frustrating and exasperating you in the process. It's a no win situation trying to rationalize with an irrational person

CUZZ Bass So true!! Mine just couldn’t help himself and would lie about such trivial things even when there wasn’t any apparent gain to be had from it. They just can’t help themselves!

CUZZ Bass true true true

they lie even when they're supposed to be telling the truth to you about another lie that they said before... (but then you're the paranoid) a few times I knew the truth about stuff (with written proof) and she kept lying... I feel sorry for her, after all she's mentally I'll, but I decided to move away long ago.

Thank you for taking your time to make that video I have learned so much about covert narcissist

Lie for them is just like breathing... easy and natural, with no worry

It is so empowering when you realize what's happening. It can be a long road out, but that moment is very powerful! ❤🙏

Once you know what.youre dealing with, they become to predictable that it is hilarious. They are very boring people

Wandering Free RIGHT!!😆😆😆

I cought my bf lying about being at his moms house for the weekend , I had the worst feeling so I followed my motherly intuition and drove by and he wasn’t there .. so I confronted him and upon that he swore on everything that I was crazy and delusional and that he was in fact there and called me controlling and projected , he accused me of the worst things imaginable like how I slept with someone in our bed and stole from him and so on and so on even calling me a prostitut , I couldn’t help but to get upset he did a good job taking the spotlight off of himself and tearing me apart for catching him lying . Idk if he cheated but why else would he lie and never admit to a damn thing if he wasn’t . He sees himself as a perfect non sinner and everyone else in the world is trash to him . He ego will get damaged so easily if he is confronted about anything he gets angry and says things like I’m done I’m tired of you slandering my name and stupid stuff like that but when I packed my stuff and had to come back to get the rest he just acts like nothing happened he won’t even talk to me and if I had a better support system and somewhere to go like a family member house I would be gone . So I guess I’m just waiting for him to talk to me about this and give a single f about saving our relationship and I know it’s a waste of time . I feel like I am crazy .

He’s just a typical narcissist. You need to dump crap. You will thank yourself in the very near future. Let the universe/higher power take over. Focus on your happiness and mental health. Most of us here know exactly what your talking about. Be strong and move forward!

Exactly and then mine tells me that, “I am the one who likes to argue.” There is no winning with the narcissist. They are experts at negating responsibility

@Mary Carroll I left mine after 33 years and it was the hardest thing I have ever experienced and I have PTSD from childhood and now his viscous words over all those years. Don’t pet his ego, they have enough of that on their own. Work on you. I promise you, it WILL NOT change. I am free now and I am so content with enjoying what I like now. For years, I spent most of my life appeasing him to avoid conflict because conflict is a dead end street. They do not fight fair but are rather cruel and completely unable to have a civil discussion. They take zero responsibility and believe it is you. Go no contact if you can.

@Mary Carroll waste of time

@Mary Carroll i meant trying to save a marriage with a covert narcisist,...even texting him IS a waste of time

I had a different issue. My ex was an avoidant type and I believe a covert narcissist. She wouldn't have any conversations about the important issues in our relationship that needed discussing. So I kept bringing them up because I knew they needed to be addressed and resolved for a healthy relationship. She viewed herself as better than me and used withholding validation, withholding information, stonewalling, breadcrumbing, deflection, never apologizing for anything even when she broke our agreement, etc. So she was on the complete other end of the spectrum about conflict, and that was equally irresponsible. Both turning everything into a confrontation, and running from all confrontation are bad. Healthy conflict is the necessary middle ground.

The very definition of crazymaking behavior! 🙏❤

And then you feel stupid for falling for it...

It’s exhausting.

Omg THIS. "I don't want to talk about this now" Even if there is a need to make a decision.

You described that perfectly.

Both my exes (narcs) didn't either. A guy friend's ex (who has a yt tarot reading channel and preaches love and is a cover narc) would blame him for everything even her crap. Raked him over the coals. Down with narcs! They belong in an insane asylum and away from the general population.

They do not apologize...Or if it ever DOES happen, it's a last ditch effort to suck you back in.

They feel apologizing is below them.

@@jensbasement3862 You said it! They'll dance around the Earth before even tackling the concept of "apologizing"

Tou will die waiting on that apology it takes alot from them to say sorry.. specially for what they say

No I literally thought the narcissist in my life was autistic cause I couldn’t believe they were so rude ( and I thought they were a nice person that was unaware of how rude they were to my all the time) to me but those gut feelings confused me.

@@lillysmith424 exactly

It can definitely be scary. I found it got easier for me after I spent time focused on self-healing and learning about the signs. I avoided new relationships while I was working on these things because I wanted to stay on track ❤🙏

My horrendous relationship is over but now I have no idea how to talk to people. I'm so alone. 20 years, he really did a number on me.

I feel the same way. And I agree completely with what this beautiful soul who's name i don't know..said above. Take all the time you need to heal, introspect and educat yourselves. Don't rush your healing. I personally won't date again until I am healed because my vibration will attract someone who is also healing or isn't ready and I don't want that. I want to avoid trauma bonding at every level. My vibe will change as I educate myself and heal all the bs he put me through. Which luckily wasn't too much, cause I always stood up for myself. And I didnt allow him to isolate me. Though he tried.. And im sorry to say, but f these people. Dont let their fear, envy, insecurities get the best of you. Just give yourself time. And you will spot them..I didnt even realize how loved bombed I was ... because i took my relationship very slow ... but as soon as he moved me from the driver seat...i felt like he moved in with me. And was the only person blowing up my phone. It's just not normal. ... and always rushing intimacy. And he would tell himself a different story about how fast he got me in bed LOl which wasn't true. He was just trying to change my sense of reality when I know exactly who the f i am! F asshole. LOL I am less than 30 days No contact...but the more days that pass...the more I see all the red flags.

Hi I agree I don't trust any more to scare haven't dated in3 years it wrong that they change people it not fair

@@CommonEgo yes that's right you have to do that first it was that we have to heal from something that was their doing but when we have healed we will find a happy loving realionship with honesty love and care what they will never have because we are real could almost feel sorry for them but I don't lol who's lonely now

I get those,comments everyday ! It's emotionally draining ,i needed to know what and why I was feeling crazy and it almost cost me everything I loved,i am back with the ex and she and I are expecting another child.its hard to communicate with her because she seemes not to care.

This is everyday about everything!!!

same...though mine emailed me while I was out of town to tell me he had moved out, and that it was my fault because I was not able to love him in the way he could feel loved.

Nope, don't ask them to have a serious conversation. They deflect it towards something else. I cornered my narc to have a conversation about our relationship status, and she shifted her attention towards how the hair on my head needed trimmed. She avoided the topic completely.

@@clintonnagy1662 there is no repairing any relationship with these people…..I left shortly after I posted my comment here and it’s been 3 years now and I’m still trying to work through everything and build my self esteem back up…..at least I can do it in peace now….best thing I ever did….ironically his name is Clinton too 😳

Same same that's why I care less what people think cause they are always pointing the finger at me because they would never believe the person who is your perpetrator could actually be the way you describe them they start to think your delusional and crazy for saying It and it's truly more traumatizing to the victim it's almost suffocating and you feel you have no one but yourself it sucks and I can totally relate

Some of the ones u tell your pain to, are also narcissist or they are flying monkeys...my dad just started going numb on me when eye vent to him about things that my mom was doing I started seeing he was not at all interested and could fucking care less...as a child he would say oh yes I know what u mean, I know how u feel, things will get better...OR he redirects the conversation by giving examples of fake empathy in an effort to downplay my experiences. My dad had me fooled for 40 years my entire life and my mother who is a raging control freak and narc and his wife is worst he watched me be abused for years by his wife...he tried to say stuff every now and then...but nothing ever changed and he was always working, playing sports, working out and hanging with his friends...

Thanks, Susan, and thank you for watching 🙏❤

Yep the veil is lifting. Their pathetic behavior does not align with morality and values, honesty and transparency. Be true to yourself and never settle

lsanborn03 I was with a covert narc 6 years , I consider my self a smart girl , but I didn’t see it all this 6 years , he was so good pretending , so subtle his moves . How I discovered ? I just had recomended on RU-vid a video about narcisism , when i show it i get just in shok , was 100% The same behavior of my boyfriend . Silent testament , feeling jealous cause he was looking so subtle other girls exactly to see my reaction , he never admited nothing never . He was to kind to sexual in the beginning, he just was always making me presents, he was so sweet ,so shy , so empathy , he always was , I didn’t like how he look that much but He seems so honest and kind and altruistic , he was always telling me how a hard life he had and childhood, telling me in the first time about her ex girlfriends, always I felt like I was in a competition with all the girls . He made me feel so insecure always, he isolated me . He start soon to silent tratament , when I was with him I start to feel so Lonely, i felt like he doesn’t love me anymore , I cried so much nights , I get a little sick for the anxiety , then I become being vegan , Always crying and holding him to doesn’t look other girls cause was hurting me , he never admired , he said that I’m crazy , is in my imagination . He never said sorry or admired something just if I I had exactly the proof and his face even then sometimes , was crazy . When I was criticized him he just change his face in one really creepy way so scary honestly , I never can had a conversation with him, was like speaking with a sofa . He start being really boring, but he always will had that moment some second making his fake sweet voice and that .He stop complimenting me ,he never told me anymore that I’m beautiful anymore or that I have a nice body . He just loved lo make me jealous and I’m not the kind of girl who don’t ask for explication or doesn’t say it , he loves make me jealous but very very sneaky . Then I star making money , he always had my money , I really never trusted anybody more than him . Red flags a lot , but I was really really young . He always was feeling bad , sick , hurting something , always he looked sad , or just so quiet. Then my mom get sick of cancer , then she dies . and he travel to the country when she was . I was just 17 , he was 26 then he told me and he come back to the other country with a weird and shitty excuse but good one in the same time . I just just feeling so sad , the Saddest moment of my life . He used me a lot for my money in the last 2 years of the fake relationship, and , of course for his ego , making me always jealous making me feeling Like he get bored of me , a lot of time without sex coming I felt so bad and I start to stay just in the bed , getting a lot of anxiety , smoking a lot of weed cause life without was so boring . But I really loved him and I really toughen that he loves me to , he was cooking for me , Washing for me all the stuff of the house , giving me food . My self esteem was a good one cause I always felt that I was a beautiful girl , but I felt so bad cause making me in a weirdo situations cause girls also can feel with a guy look you in some way even if is a subtle one . And I felt shamed . Always was a competition with all the girl so I hated go out with him cause was. Torture . But I tough was really in my imagination in some way . Weird feeling . After some years he started to spend hours in the mirror , he get bold then he get some kind of wig and omg he start spending hours in the mirror . When I discovered , I made a plan to escape , I call a friend he come with a men and big car to take my stuff . I’m living with that girl right now , 4 days since i left that fucking fake narc. I stayed 3 days with contact zero but today I called him cause I want the money i invest in the house , he doesnt wanna give to me . He îs The worst person i met in my life . I told him , I know now everything I told him he is sick he is narcissist , he said that my veganismo get me crazy . Then I told him now I know he was trying make me feel insecure , how he is . I told him that he is ugly and I didn’t like him in the beginning. Told Loved just his fake personality and I really made him feel ugly how he wanna make me feel :) the last conversation I had with him , the point is I want a lot revenge now I hate him so much I’m sorry but I hate him I want make him suffer how he made me feel but then I remember that the suffer every second almost . What I Can say about covert narc , that they’re the best about faking , he always the victim , and he is really very very very sneaky .Mine was smart just in the evil stuff . Manipulating me. Honestly they’re weirdest mental issues in this life . They’re very weird and they’re behavior are always in all the same . That’s so weird . I do think they’re something devil in them ... I feel like a escape for the devil I swear, since i know he was a narcissist and I was still living with him 3 days I couldn’t sleep , I was so afraid I was looking him how now I now all his moves , I fake love so much that’s 3 days and I leave him . Now I feel like I’m living , I was stuck at home even 8 mont without seeing the sun . I’m honestly in shock , I’m seeing the videos about narcissist, and that really made me wanna study psychology , I find it the most sadist stuff in this world but very interesting, I also think that mine was also a pedophile . (I Look 6 years more younger that i am , like 15 ,16) and i show something too but I don’t wanna write it here . Now I think I can see a narcissist in 2 seconds . Im not suffering So much , maybe a bit of The syndrome Stockholm, and a bit codependent and a little scared but I’m so happy 😁 so this story have a happy ending for me , I get it like a lesson, I’m very empathy girl , the problems of the people get always my problem to I try to control myself . They’re just pure shit and insecure . Girl dont miss them , hate them and contact zero . I will not speak never anymore with him in my life :) he told everywone that I get crazy for being vegan 😅 LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL , I feel amazing.

Weed lady..stay strong.the Bible calls these people reprobates. See what book if Timothy has to say. Study Christian apologetics. Strong evidence for the case for Christ can be proven historically,testimonially,archeologically, prophetically, numerically. Thank God you didn.t have a child with this creep. This is a spiritual issue. Simply evil. They are demonically infested or outright possessed. Pray to God to reveal himself to you,protect you.be blessed and sorry for the tremendous loss if your mother. Look up livingwird, Ravi Zacharias and cold case Christianity.

According to the narcissist your not allowed to feel !

I'm sorry you're going through this right now. It gets better, and there will be ups and downs, but if you're dealing with abuse, you're doing what's best for you (and that's super important) 🙏❤

goya. T stay strong, i know its hard, but you will be so glad you did. Every day away from this person is a day closer to real freedom for you.

goya. T You CAN do it!!!! No contact equals peace and healing

@@4GodsPeople yeah, its the traumabond :(

goya. T Yes took me several months in no contact to finally start to feel free from the trauma bond..... and a lot of Prayer👍🏻🙏🏻 but you got this!!

@@natashastewart8203 Yeah, they say you're telling lies when they're the ones who actually do this.

@@natashastewart8203 My "sister" has always been popular, but firstly, her flying monkeys are afraid of her and secondly, she even said once, annoyed by a weird friend that had been bullied in school as a child, that he should give it a break and that "we've all been bullied." Yeah, right! She hadn't and I was bullied by kids and adults because of her and other narcs. My covert narc "aunt" told me everyone in her village love her. Yeah, they love her... gone! 😂

​@agnieszkalibera5809 I've experienced that. I was accused of lying for stuff that was unimportant. I was gonna go to the store and decided NOT to go because I was tired. I was accused of lying and she wouldn't let it go. Insane. That's one of many insane arguments.

My EX narc had germ issues. She wouldn't eat the edges of chips she touched. Then got mad at me for eating her scraps.

OMG that's crazy 🤯 I met someone recently who said it and that he didn't even really like meat. Shortly after those conversations, he sent me a pic of a mountain of chicken bones from the wings he just ate with the caption, "Killed it!" And so many other things that indicated he lived quite the opposite of what his words said... It's not always a sign of narcissism (tho you'll always see it with narcissists), but when someone's actions and words are out of alignment, it's a MAJOR red flag. That person is trying to create a quick and inauthentic connection with you. They want you to let your guard down faster than you would if they were honest. But at least we can say we have lived and learned ❤

As if people can't change their minds without being narcissist 😂

Same here! They all believed her even when she had no evidence supporting her statements. Those poor saps are now slaves to the filthy parasite.

my son is going thru that right now ......and he doesn't even realize it. Even I am a point of contention. She is taking everything from him, goes thru his phone, doesn't let him do anything with out her. has to run everything by her. Its just sick, I cant believe it

That can definitely happen. There's an example just like that in my covert emotional abuse video ❤

Wow. That sounds awfully familiar.

My husband told me that I’m the reason people in my family have mental illnesses....bi-polar runs in our family and my son had just been diagnosed...this was a year ago and I’m still not over it 😞

@@dee-deelove9310 please don't let that enter your heart. My ex husband told me that I make people around me want to kill themselves. I wanted to become a counselor, and that comment kept me from it all the years I was married. But I realized that he was toxic, and started college after my divorce and became the counselor I dreamed of being. Behavioral abnormalities can very much be genetic, my daughter inherited bipolar from my ex-husband. But I recognized her bipolar early on and we've been working with the chemical imbalances since an early age and she's aware of her ups and downs and a fantastic young lady. It just sounds to me like your husband needs to learn a little bit of tact and empathy. Good luck darling.

I experienced that but her response is " well, I'm NOT saying anything that isn't TRUE. You can't handle the truth". But I don't dare tell my friends about her and her son's behavior. I'll never live it down. Hypocritical and pointless.

Sooner or later their story is that they did do that favor and they had to go way out of their way to do it and you’re unappreciated of them.

You’ll learn more and more how evil it all is. I tell my ex(no contact if we didn’t have a child) not to project her truths onto me. It’s her that she hates, not me!

I know what you mean about no one would believe it. I am divorcing my husband of 17 years. In the eyes of his co-workers and 'friends' he is amazing. At home, it was an entirely different story full of gaslighting and circular arguing.

HANG IN THERE AND WELCOME HOME MY FRIEND!

Same here, love. Everything about us helps the mask. I'm sorry. No one, but me and my son know and it sucks to go through this abuse without being able to tell anyone and even if you could, you couldn't explain it. It is more alone than alone. But in reality we are not being here we are. I see you. ❤

The word really describes arguing with a narcissist SO WELL 🙏❤

An excellent, well-written post. Thank you!

I'm sorry you're in that mess. I felt the same way as you. I felt trapped and no way out. When I would try to talk to her, I got interrupted constantly. She would deflect my interest back onto her. So annoying. I was losing my mind. Finally, we had an one last argument and I walked, and haven't contacted her. She is a mess but blames me for her problems. A spoiled she-devil that crawled out from the pit and latched onto me. Her son is worse then she is. He creates alot of drama and chaos. I couldn't do it anymore. It's so toxic. It stings to want what I thought was love but it's HELL. No thanks. I chose the path back to the Lord.

Might I SHARE A SPIRITUAL TRUTH? IMO BUT MAINLY MY EXP. THESE PERSONS ARE JUST POSSESSED. SOMETHING MENTAL HEALTH PRACTITIONERS CAN'T FATHOM. tc THE WATER IS DEEP AND cold!

Same bro. Psychopath. She’d go silent and just stare at me in my eyes… for like MINUTES in silence if I didn’t say anything…. In the middle of a “fight” or conversation or me asking he a questions about something I later learned she just did NOT want to get about. That’s why she sat there like a crazy person, she didn’t even want to give me a lie or an OPPORTUNITY to know she wasn’t telling the truth. She just did t answer 😭😂 fuckin sicko it’s insane. I literally remember telling here “this is not normal human behavior, you know that right??” 💀Like if people were here… they’d agree

@@sperez3275 “this isn’t normal behavior”. I used those exact words too

dEMENTED AND CERTIFIED GRADE AAAAA BULLSHITTERS & MIMICS.

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Oh, mine would be in the line up....

Gold comments 😂.

That's what I get all the time

Achala Devi,You are beautiful 🌷🌹,Hope you are not with a narcissist!

Hi sorry to hear what you sent through your a bigger stronger person than he will ever hold your head up you will find true love

Thank u so much

Thanks🤩

ishtarian... btw...ishtarian - funny If that's what I think 🤔it meant to mean. Yupppp and you described perfectly. Had a now DeFriended Covert was same w her talking endlessly about herself... Not ALLOWING me to say sht. Disgusting. They think we are so insignificant and they're so superior. In actuality they're pathetic clowns mired in fear, inferiority, rejection and shame and hating us for being happy going. Wish you well.

SO PAINFULLY THE SOLEMN TRUTH! START FROM SCRATCH AND MAKE THIS LIFE ALL THAT YOU DESIRED IT TO BE WITH YOU AND TO YOU MY YOUNG MAN!

@ishtarian I’ve been fighting to stay in my daughter’s life for all her 7 years. Today was another miserable day with accusations and circular arguing but I’ve learned that she will only keep my daughter from me as long as it’s convenient for her(which isn’t long). She has many friends and family that she uses to enable my removal so I’ve been thinking about diving into enemy territory and ask them directly for their help. Just let them know that my daughter never needs a sitter. If they are doing it to spend time together and that’s what my little girl wants then that’s ok, I’ve never denied any of them access to her. But many times it’s not easy for them to take her but they won’t say no to me ex. I’m guessing because all the lies made up about me. I rent a house 50 miles from my business and a home I own just so I can stay close to my little girl and she wants to take her daughter’s father out of her life. I can’t understand why her friends don’t see her narcissistic ways! They leave their work to do things for my ex because she’s at work!! I guess they think her nursing career is more important than whatever their own job is!

Found a book called "when loving you is hurting me". That opened my eyes.

Kayalucia Lauwerys,You got a lovely smile 😊

This is exactly how I feel right now :/ I find it very hard to trust women after what I've been through. At this point I feel like relationships just aren't meant for me. While there's solace in admitting that to myself, it still hurts alot

@@omarsyed7345 I think we will overcome this! It just needs time to heal and a person who doesn't get impatient with us but gives us time to open up 😉

I felt like that until I empowered myself. I told myself that I am more aware now and if I see those traits in a potential partner, I will just say 'bye'... calm and decided, no need for emotional drama. The thing is you are not relying on the other to make you safe, you are relying on yourself to make you safe by giving yourself guilt free, no-justifying choice :)

Thank you so much for that very kind comment. It means a lot to me! 🙏❤

Great, im proud of you. Im 11 years in, broke up & threw him out 2 years ago, but an still dealing with him.

Is that a thing? Because when I have to spend more than two minutes with my ex, or she is being “kind” or “nice” to me, it used to leave me spiraling for days, like there is something wrong with me and I screwed it all up. She’s always cool, calm, and collected. I didn’t know how to shut it off. 😳

I married a covert myself,.. I'm just sick inside of wasted years,.. Took me this long for my eyes to open & learn about this ridiculous behavior.

A narc woman I used to know would say the exact same thing "How dare you?" Soooo annoying and ridiculous.

I've grappled with the same! But there are reasons we stay (trauma bond is a big one, and sometimes there's even more to it). Ultimately, I think we have to forgive ourselves and know that everything happens when it's meant to. For example, if I hadn't been through all the craziness, there's a lot that would have remained unhealed within me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you're exactly where you're meant to be right now. ❤🙏

Oh, and crazy. I feel crazy some days. Narcissist has become such a buzz word, people have started using it for all kinds of minor things that are nothing to do with genuine narcissism. It never even occurred to me that it might be the term that applied, but he had labelled me the narcissist within a week of me leaving. 8 months on he's blocked me on everything because I started dating again, and is telling all kinds of lies, and I feel conflicted and kinda broken, but.... in a weird way, I'm grateful for his public lies. I was sent screenshots of what he was saying on Facebook, and they're such definite lies, things i can prove to myself - and anyone else, not that anyone asks - he is absolutely deliberately lying to destroy me (like the opening line that I blocked him, that's not something you can get wrong by accident) because let me tell you, that man looked me dead in the eye and told me the cigarette I just watched him drop didn't exist, and if I couldn't SEE it right there on the ground, still lit, I would have believed him. I need that proof to remind ME that I'm not crazy