12 Drivers that could STOP Mick Schumacher returning to F1 in 2024

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Mick Schumacher is out for next year, but he wants back in. Unfinished business, a point to prove. Well, he's not the only one. I wanted to look at the 12 drivers who Mick will have to out-impress in order to get back onto the Formula 1 grid for 2024.
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@aha1106 Год назад

Tommo is like that kid at school who tells all the younger kids that Santa doesn't exist

@morrisonben Год назад

Imagine this comment is how someone finds out

@henrycollins2478 Год назад

@@morrisonben tragic irony

@markzubeger Год назад

What's Santa?

@henrycollins2478 Год назад

@@markzubeger what’s school

@just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you Год назад

@@markzubeger I'll do one better, why is Santa?

@GeneralMiller92FIN Год назад

Mika Häkkinen is the biggest threat for Mick's return.

@SirGingerOfKnight Год назад

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN!!!

@belodie Год назад

He retired earlier this year unfortunately.

@crystalracing4794 Год назад

How can we forget about him?

@novai6554 Год назад

Mario Andretti is more likely

@just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you Год назад

And hey David Coulthard and Martin Brundle too.

@pioter3374 Год назад

Thank you, Tommo. Now that you jinxed it, Mick will get the seat this weekend through Sargeant not getting enough SL points. All Mick fans are grateful for your help.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

The Tommo jinx is world famous

@hirankalindu322 Год назад

Tommo jinx isn't as powerful as Josh's jinx though, but let's hope Mick will get a seat

@Yappit Год назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid I need an American on the grid, please don't break my heart Tommo.

@MXNLYKE8 Год назад

@@Yappiti don’t know why but i don’t like logan sargeant

@adamlammert6786 Год назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid DON'T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON ME, RICKY BOBBY!!!

@zackcoleman4039 Год назад

Damn Tommo really read Mick's statement and made it his personal mission to put that fire out

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

I felt inspired 😅

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

This video will age horribly if Sargeant doesn't get enough SL points and Mick nicks his Williams seat. Also GG Iwasa for pole. Mystery F1 RU-vidr: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mK2I1w8YrSk.html

@sorosub4562 Год назад

Ain’t no way

@justinburley8659 Год назад

That’s just not happening. So many things have to go against Logan

@arthurpadovan9894 Год назад

I am counting on Enzo to help on that

@tiernankeane5643 Год назад

You’re forgetting that Minton is the REAL threat 😳

@Glegh Год назад

Magic alonso is no more, MAGIC MINTON!

@milol.akkaraprud8681 Год назад

That's what good Minton can do, now imagine a badminton...oh wait...

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

To Ham-ilton

@vojtaane Год назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid Ham-minton

@hallamhal Год назад

"Let Mick back in please" "I told you already last time, you guys don't ask that again to me, Okay?"

@selder_7 Год назад

It breaks my heart to imagine Mick telling Michael he’s out of F1.

@megawave79 Год назад

@@sahilprasla7130 how? He’s basically vegetable after his unfortunate accident . He would not have found out before.

@ThistleForge Год назад

@@megawave79 no he speaks etc hes just not the same. he even watches formula one but is not the same person but not a vegetable as you put it

@Dolek135 Год назад

@@ThistleForge how would you know? There's been no updates in almost a decade so you can imagine his state

@ThistleForge Год назад

@@Dolek135 The former FIA President even revealed he had watched an F1 race together with the F1 legend at his home. Schumacher’s wife Corinna has also issued few updates on her husband's condition, but had admitted the star was “different”. She said: “I miss Michael every day. But it's not just me who misses him. It's the children, the family, his father, everyone around him. I mean, everybody misses Michael, but Michael is here. "Different, but he's here and that gives us strength, I find. We try to carry on a family as Michael liked it and still does. And we are getting on with our lives. 'Private is private', as he always said. It is very important to me that he can continue to enjoy his private life as much as possible.”

@CammyTheSportsEntertainer Год назад

Great work as always Tommo. Keep it up. I've always believed there should be more than 10 teams. Maybe another team. Maybe 2 or 3 more. Of course, they'll need to be competitive as the last thing you want is backmarkers miles off like HRT were. Current teams might not like it, but just do good enough to be in the top 10 and they've nothing to be worried about. I personally think a minimum grid should be 24 cars.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

12 would be 🔥

@madpanda307 Год назад

I would love to see Honda and Andretti joining for Andretti: Herta and Sergeant and Honda: Tsunoda and Iwasa

@danielgyila3662 Год назад

Zaaaane, the boy from Barbados, I hope to see him in F1 one day, amazing driver

@mathiasenger7665 Год назад

6:47 It is also worth mentioning how insanely unlucky Hauger has been this season. Sprint in Saudi, the wheel that fell off etc. Hopefully he will perform well next F2 season. (Side note, I am Norwegian so I am extremely biased when it comes to Hauger and his potential :) )

@hectornajar5835 Год назад

Been watching him since f3 he's next for f1, his talent is amazing

@grayaj23 Год назад

I really like Hauger, and he had a bad streak of luck this year. Including the penalty he got for doing what the stewards told him to do. But I think he's just a bit too green Exciting to watch, though. I'll be gunning for him to do well in 2023.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

Yeah that's fair, he's had his share. I think a lack of quali consistency has somewhat held him back too.

@Lauda84 Год назад

Same, I am Norwegian and the news in Norway make it look like he is the F1 World Champ when he wins one race 😂

@DavidPeveto Год назад

I love Mick but a team like Haas needs a driver who is consistent and not constantly crashing so they can stop paying for repair bills and actually improve their car. Hope Mick gets back on the grid, but if Audi doesn't do it, I think his shot is done.

@NA-bf7jc Год назад

They should have thought about possible crashes before the two year contract.Mick was used for his sponsor money,just like mazepin was

@USANA158 Год назад

@@NA-bf7jc He performed still

@NA-bf7jc Год назад

@@USANA158 for sure he showed that he deserves a seat. I feel like haas used the sponsor money to build a car that has more potential than fighting for P19 and P20, as soon as they got that, they dropped mick and did not support his development

@USANA158 Год назад

@@NA-bf7jc That really brings a new meaning to this. Haas suck. I hope Porsche or even better, Andretti buy them, such a pathetic excuse for a team.

@NA-bf7jc Год назад

@@USANA158 for sure!

@smokeybandit9760 Год назад

I'm surprised you left out Ayumu Iwasa. He's had a pretty good season in F2 and I honestly think he could contend for one of the AlphaTauri seats

@grayaj23 Год назад

Considering how much Honda want a Japanese driver on the grid, he might be Yuki's understudy of Yuki doens't rise up this year.

@dannysstart2218 Год назад

good shout.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

Iwasa has been rapid on occasion, but nowhere some weekends. Gotta work on that consistency to mount a title challenge in 2023.

@Narmatonia Год назад

Frederik Vesti is in with a decent shot as well, he's a Mercedes junior and looking likely to go to Prema next year

@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Год назад

Now watch Mazepin coming back out of nowhere. At this point, nothing could surprise me.

@patrickodd1884 Год назад

Mazepin is out not because of the war, but because he sucks.

@lukebrennan5780 Год назад

Great session, thank you! Jack Doohan - definitely looking for him in F1.

@sambull4633 Год назад

Nice vid and good suggestions - especially enjoyed the inclusion of the F3 lads. Think Hadjar deserved a place here though as Marko confirmed a while ago that Hadjar would do F2 in 2023

@caphowdy666 Год назад

Tommo "The one thing that could stand against Victor Martins is his age" *Nyck de Vries enters the chat*

@caphowdy666 Год назад

@James Black Firstly, yes he was. Why do you think he was constantly in the Merc garage and was being used as test driver? Also why did Toto say early on that if we cannot get him a drive we are happy to let him go to another team? And he had long been on the radar for a potential Williams drive, but it never quite happened. Secondly, you are totally missing the point. I am talking about his age. Plus, is Martins even on the radar? He has not even raced in F2 yet to see if he is worthy of an F1 seat.

@nellikorpi7937 Год назад

I rate Isack Hadjar super highly, him and Maloney were my favorites this F3 season. Always gotta root for the rookies, and they both impressed last year when I watched the FR european championship

@drillnewsandclips3798 Год назад

Zane Maloney is definitely special!

@salim_abid_ Год назад

In a shocking turn of events, Jos Verstappen replaces Perez at Redbull 😂 The ultimate teammate challenge for Max

@AJ-zy9jf Год назад

The talent wasn’t the problem for Mick. He was inconsistent and was very expensive. Crashing too much cost him

@fischjer1999 Год назад

Hoped to hear the great dane, Frederik Vesti in this, i know its a long shot, but he have been pretty solid in f2 this season, hoping for a good 2023 year, and maybe be close to a seat in 2024-2025

@dannysstart2218 Год назад

some how i don't see it.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

Needs a big step up next year, gonna be very competitive in F2 for sure

@fischjer1999 Год назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid I might be a bit biased too, since im danish, and KMAG, doesn't have a lot more to do in f1 with the Haas racer, so just hoping to see Vesti make a big jump next season :D

@BigManFred27 Год назад

What about Frederik Vesti, i would say he has had a pretty solid rookie year But also plagued by the art reliability

@ryanyearley9256 Год назад

I have high expectations of Bearman, he looks so promising I recon he will be in f1 by at the latest 2025

@dannysstart2218 Год назад

maybe, people though same on schwartzman then he had 2 team mates in f2 win the title.

@terminateshere Год назад

A lot will depend on how long Fernando and Lewis stick around. They claim they want to keep driving on for years, but even GOATs can't stop the clock on their own ageing and eventually the ends won't justify the means for them. Decisions like this will likely come mid-season, and will kick open the driver market like Vettel did this year.

@corin371 Год назад

I have always thought zane maloney would be class he looked really good in f4 european formula open and f3

@boss_vision65 Год назад

Interesting vid. Lots of contenders. Zane is good. Definitely has the Maloney racing pedigree (his dad and uncles were Caribbean racers). If Freddi boy can step things up next year, then there is a chance for him. Next year should be interesting to see.

@JoeSmith-ef2zh Год назад

Iwasa not getting a shout in this video is criminal - similar season to Zane Maloney in terms of he started slow and is finishing strong (if you ignore his dsq for DAMS using an illegal plank)

@fin-ed6oj Год назад

I think Ayumu Iwasa should be in this conversation. Helmut Marko seems really impressed by him and he's got that Japanese-Honda link. I can see him being AlphaTauri's next driver

@miggygetright6344 Год назад

Enzo Fittipaldi is so underrated, so young, driving the wheels off that Charouz and fighting to be the highest ranked rookie in F2 👏👏

@Versatilty Год назад

No Colten Herta? Or did I miss you talking about him? He would have been signed this year if he got the waiver and should have the points by next year.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

No Colton, purely because getting enough SL points from Indy is such a tough gig.

@stormgantzel8350 Год назад

Man you forgot Frederik Vesti who's also moving to Prema and could be a title contender in F2 next year!

@oscrito Год назад

my (perhaps biased) hope is that logan doesn’t get the SL points and mick will drive for williams

@dannysstart2218 Год назад

no sayin logan will be ok in f1 tbh.

@magicmillz Год назад

Williams watched him total 2 cars lmao, what makes you believe that would make them go for him after Latifi

@densepixel Год назад

I don't know if he will do it, but Indycar. He has been competitive in different formula series, and being competitive in Indycar would show that he isn't just a legacy driver. (Plus he is competing for seats with Indycar drivers)

@matiasbiondolillo5217 Год назад

It's a shame Colapinto doesn't have enough funding for a top team in F3. I can't believe a driver academy hasn't taken him yet. What he did in a VAR was mad impressive. Hopefully he can fight for the championship in MP but really difficult.

@samhill-morriss5400 Год назад

Pourchaire has some incredible raw pace I really hope he gets a chance in f1

@mangofruit8984 Год назад

Honestly I think Robert Shwartzman should have gotten that seat ahead of Hulk

@beatrizsilveira6978 Год назад

Everyone saying the Red Bull juniors will be fighting for Yuki's seat when in my opinion it's clear De Vries will be the one out of F1 for 2024

@maurommmmm4187 Год назад

I think drivers like Maloney and Bearman showed great raw speed, but also mad inconsistency (which is forgivable for they're young rookies). They might just need time to develop and mature. Thus, they've already been promoted to F2, where after a couple of year you should be at the top to be considered. Aren't those moves hurried? Shouldn't we let them develop and not let their talent be wasted?

@thijsjacobs855 Год назад

We need more parts! Really liked thuis vid

@thijsjacobs855 Год назад

this

@mariano1428 Год назад

Honestly, the more I think about Mick´s future the more certain I am that he needs to hope Sargeant doesn´t get the superlicense points and Williams go for him

@bjs7442 Год назад

Listening to Mick at the driver conference before Abu Dhabi and seeing his statement he is either putting on a brave face or really is in denial. I watched him in F2 and have said all along that he was never f1 material. He was the weakest F2 champion for many years and so it proved. Its time for more talented drivers to get their chance.

@prisonplayz123 Год назад

@@bjs7442 yeah seemingly you didnt

@bjs7442 Год назад

@@prisonplayz123 didnt what?

@danielmaia3559 Год назад

If I’m Ferrari I’m swapping Leclerc for Norris and getting a very rare friendly duo and marketing machine of Norris and Sainz Edgy

@colpul2103 Год назад

Colton Herta will for sure have enough SL points by 2024. I think he has to be at the top of the list, he has the most raw talent of the contenders and after another year in Indycar he'll be in demand. Plus, I think F1 is a bit desperate for an American driver with three races in the USA now.

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

I hope so, but Indy is a real tough gig. 40 points is a LOT if you're outside the FIA pyramid

@colpul2103 Год назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid I believe he only needs 5th place next season to have the 40 pts. I don't believe any of his 32 expire next year.

@nikm4253 Год назад

Hey, I'm from Chelmsford too! Chelmsford, Massachusetts

@flamingburritto Год назад

The real threat is latifi coming back and getting serious

@caseymiller3540 Год назад

We could see the grid grow in the near future and that would open a door for drivers as well.

@Sophie-qh1vu Год назад

3 videos in one day.. early end of season gift from Tommo!!

@zeejemusic8843 Год назад

Good vid (so far lol) Im really rooting for nyck de Vries though

@rahulroy9310 Год назад

I love the Smily light from the background,Tommo

@JaxieHandler Год назад

I feel conflicted, disappointed because they rejected youth and the Schumacher name, but also love that the Hulk is back.

@kristoffsamm10 Год назад

I think his season was meh hence he lost his job

@DiegoF1ores Год назад

A driver should not keep his position because of his last name, he should do it because of his talent, or at least for having the ability to not to cause a great expense to the teams with accidents after accidents.

@alastairman1223 Год назад

It’s a long shot but based on paddock rumors, Porsche are planning to buy Alpha Tauri and Danny Ric wants to be there if it does happen

@MissMarquise Год назад

I'm putting my money there

@p0werfu11 Год назад

Danny Ric wants to be there? Porsche can't spend 30 millions on his salary.

@LucZeroSix Год назад

Criminal that you left out Ayumu Iwasa :0

@farishanafiah8461 Год назад

11:07 Me at 17: studying for secondary school's public examination.

@michaelcallander7085 Год назад

Always nice to see F3 and Ollie Bearman get a mention.

@kieferclarkf1674 Год назад

Lawson will be at Alpha Tauri in 2024 for sure if he has a good season in super formula.

@Traxxmaciek Год назад

Edit: I thought that you were going alphabetically and left him out. I look like a knob now Honourable mention: Dennis Hauger. Last years f3 champion. And yes he didn’t have the rookie season he was hoping for in f2, but he’s already a multiple race winner in f2. Prema’s season has been very up and down and in my opinion Hauger has shown very good highs

@Jaytalise Год назад

8x GP wins during Mercs most dominant period does hold a lot of weight.

@JoseEduardoRuano Год назад

Really good choices, I see Pato O'ward getting a seat soon with Mclaren, maybe as a reserve driver. but hope to see Mick back on the grid

@jackmonaghan8477 Год назад

Lawson is set to race in Super Formula with Mugen next year and Pourchaire is set to test with Kondo Racing and could land a drive there with Sacha Fenestraz leaving to race with Nissan in Formula E. Also, rumours abound that Fittipaldi and Maloney will be racing in F2 with Carlin next year and the latter is set to receive Red Bull backing.

@shanehealy204 Год назад

Love the positivity mate

@sava-lakicevic Год назад

Theo Pouchare said this was hist last f2 season though, so he's supposedly not on the f2 grid next year either. Which is a shame, this will make it nearly impossible to get to f1.

@klater5842 Год назад

I think Hadjar was the most impressive F3 driver, cause he absolutely carried Hitech in F3 this season and Marko seems to like him quite a lot

@TommoOnYoutube Год назад

Was a shame how Monza fella apart for him

@RealMusicHype Год назад

00:53 Cool!

@Ad.44.. Год назад

Audi buy a percentage of Sauber next year, Zhou gets the boot for Schumacher as Audi want a German driver as they’ve said, that’s how I think he returns. Commercially the name and prestige of Audi coming in with a Schumacher is huge, and he’s young enough to by 2026 when Audi fully dive into the sport, he can be a very solid driver.

@aurktman1106 Год назад

Mick needs to make his own path, maybe Indy or LeMans.

@SingularityEngine Год назад

Hauger hopium keeping me going through this winter break

@thijsjacobs855 Год назад

We need a Andretti 2024 entry: Sargeant and Herta als Teammates. Zhou to Williams and Schumacher to Sauber/Audi

@airwave6610 Год назад

I really don't see any Indycar drivers getting a chance any time soon

@DDGXMUSIC Год назад

"God save our Gracious Bias" lollll. Didn't realise you were in Chelmsford, just down the road. Essex4Life 😛

@danieleziaco7092 Год назад

We really need more teams, at least one more

@KlaximumSkroeft Год назад

I've got my eye on Caio Collet, personally

@jlytollis4 Год назад

We need more teams in F1 to allow more junior drives in to F1..until we get more teams then so many young drivers will miss the chance to drive in F1...

@connorappleton1945 Год назад

Ayumu Iwasa: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU"

@nakki123 Год назад

My money is on Hakkinen.

@GuacJuan Год назад

If Martins wins F2 in his rookie year then he’ll only be 22/23 when looking at an F1 drive. It’s not the end of the world considering the average age of an F2 driver on the 2022 grid is 25.8 I believe (although the numbers are a tad skewed due to Calderon, Merhi, & Ghiotto)

@JoeSmith-ef2zh Год назад

And Nissany

Год назад

Enzo in P6 is the only driver at the top 10 without a race win, his consistency is being the key

@NerdChannelBrasil Год назад

Enzo did that with a Charouz Tractor racing.

@georgeoliver8300 Год назад

all we want is Mick and Seb at Audi in 2026

@zaidkidwai7831 Год назад

I would like to see another team or two to join F1

@bw8818 Год назад

The next star talents at RB driver academy are Ayumu Iwasa and Isac Hadjar

@dauntlessskateboards3668 Год назад

What about Dan Ticktum

@KlaximumSkroeft Год назад

I miss ricc already but yeah, lando should move to rb in 24

@eamonahern7495 Год назад

I did a poll on my twitter and more than 80% said they'd rather see Mick in the Haas next year.

@hugolouessard3914 Год назад

I think Isaak Hadjar and Roman Stanek (though you mentioned them) are extraordinary drivers ! Both 18 years old and ready for F2. I'm really disappointed Théo Pourchaire was so unlucky and couldn't win the championship (since his bad luck early on gave him a lot of points to grab back, he overdrove a bit). I wish he was on the F1 grid for 2023 instead of Zhou ! The guy is the youngest ever F2 winner, gets P5 in 2021 at just 18, then 2nd at 19. It's extraordinary. Sauber has its reasons to keep Zhou, who had a decent season, but Pourchaire is a wonderkid. In the young generation (born in 1999 of after), I think those who will shine are : Oscar Piastri, (Schwartzmann has the level to be in F1 but I doubt he'll get the opportunity sadly), Théo Pourchaire, Felipe Drugovich, Jack Doohan, Ayumu Iwasa (very underrated I think), Dennis Hauger (1 bad season but he's great), Isaak Hadjar, Roman Stanek, Oliver Bearman, Zane Maloney. And Kimi Antonelli is coming to F3 and will be sensational I'm 100% sure about it ! Piastri, Pourchaire, Hauger, Hadjar, Bearman and Antonelli are the best of the best young talents ! (And maybe Maloney, his second part of 2022 was sensational)

@nrbmemes2414 Год назад

Zhou is very underrated by F1 fans I see for some reason even though he was winning F3 in 2018 but Mick or his 3rd teammate I can't remember who it was crashed with him and then he fell off and lost it.

@dannysstart2218 Год назад

zhou isn't even that good. he's just not as bad as people expected.

@lazersharkproductions5622 Год назад

I wonder what Mazepin thinks about this whole situation

@user-xn3vj4eu8l Год назад

Not just him but also other drivers too, they're talent but F1 stubborn enough that only want 10 teams on the grid

@samlewis3555 Год назад

I’m still hoping for a Daniel-Valterri combo at Alfa Romeo, seems like a seat that will be open soon and the lack of the expectations associated with title contenders has benefited Bottas, why not Danny too?

@noduj Год назад

Alfa only has a year left and both drivers have a contract

@samlewis3555 Год назад

@@noduj 1) the team remains, Sauber will be in the sport for the foreseeable future with the same lineup. Alfa is only the sponsor and name, but when I say Alfa I mean the team Sauber, that team won't go, just the sponsor. 2) I don't mean Danny to race for Alfa in 2023, I mean 2024 onwards. We already knew Zhou would stay and Danny would leave months ago, therefore it is reasonable to make the jump and assume that I mean for 2024 not 2023. If Zhou remains at his current level, which is passable rookie competing adequately, he won't be worth keeping over others. If Pourchaire wins F2 next year, Alfa won't want to keep an average Zhou who wasn't even that good in F2 or F1, nor will they risk losing Pourchaire. If Pourchaire gets a reserve drive (possible as Kubica is leaving) then why wouldn't Alfa look at Danny in the same way they looked at Bottas? They stand to have a driver lineup that rivals the top 3 teams in this scenario.

@noduj Год назад

@@samlewis3555 Audi bought this team, Sauber won't have any rights, they gonna join 24 and sort the team out.

@1xRacer Год назад

No way I used to race Ollie in iracing, he was insane hahaha

@danort17 Год назад

Just one lil thing: ADAC F4 is not pronounced like one word, but it's spelled seperately, so A-D-A-C ;)

@NerdChannelBrasil Год назад

Pourchaire had bad luck yeah. But this is the second time that he underperform in pressure conditions. Was that in F3 and this season in F2.

@4Leka Год назад

F1 needs more teams and seats.

@wharris123184 Год назад

11:42 I damn near spit out my drink 😂

@AlexAKAmotormille Год назад

Why Where Frederik Vesti not in the vid??

@domenvalentinuzzi Год назад

Personally i would add Daniil Kvyat, Pietro Fittipaldi and maybe some others

@CedView Год назад

If Mick does not join Williams, which is likely, I think his best chances are with Sauber. Audi will definitely wanna have at least one German driver. If Audi has any influence before 2026, Mick will join them. I only see other sauber juniors fighting for that spot too

@iso_racer9925 Год назад

Love your content @Tommo but I have pretty much disagree with nearly all of these drivers (bar Ricciardo). At the moment, unless you have grand prix experience or are a Piastri/Russell/Leclerc talent, teams will be hesitant signing rookies (literally de Vries is a prime example, only became a prospect after he proved he could compete in F1 with his performance in Italy). Schumacher has a way better chance than Palou or any F2 or F3 driver who has not won their respective titles within two years of competition. It's sad, but it's the truth.

@archiemaxwell8652 Год назад

I think Williams should actually have said Sargent needs to get his super licence and P5 or better in F2, because if he finishes sixth or seventh you could argue he doesn't deserve the seat

@grayaj23 Год назад

I have to remind myself to give Bearman a break... he's really young. But he has done some questionable things on-track, often at the expense of his teammate. He is exciting to watch, though. Iwasa had a good rookie year in F2 too. I know you can't include everyone, but that's what the comments section is for.