dylan i honestly can't thank you enough for not showing that tyler scene.. i cried about it for two days and i'm someone who VERY RARELY gets triggered. like at hannah's suicide scene i teared up but i have never been as triggered as i was with this scene.
I was so upset because his life finally started to get better and then all of a sudden they made him get raped in a school bathroom by bunch of football players. I was mad about this season already because they kind of made Hannah seem less sincere and Clay like crazy and Cheri became a whole different person. Bryce and basically the whole football team became this serial rapists and the school basically enabled them. This show went from realistic mistakes people could actually make to Hollywood crap.
same...I had a mental breakdown and cried for like an hour and still can´t forget about it....I was rooting for Tayler this whole season because it always seemed like he´s just socially akward and never knows what to say and everybody was just so unnecessarily mean to him....I was really happy seeing him doing so much better in that last episode...and then that happened...It was so brutal, evil and frustrating...it just broke my heart
I wish I could unseen the Tyler scene, yes it makes sense for the plot line and 'spreading awareness' but no warning could have prepared me for that and I genuinely feel traumatised from watching it. They're just dragging this story line out (Bryce and Monty didnt get repercussions for their actions which basically diminishes the point of the season) for season 3 but I'm not sure if I even want to watch it if they renew the series.
I 100% agree, a scene like that should never touch any form of media. It’s clear that they wanted to shock us and show us the evil that’s out there but regardless it was just too much.
Alex Dawson-Banson I agree with the Tyler scene, it was so traumatic, what they did with the mop and slamming his head into the sink... fuck, I just felt weird after it, it was so fucked up☹️☹️☹️
Alex Dawson-Banson so it’s ok to show Hannah/Jessica get raped and it’s “deep and meaningful” but when they show a boy get raped, WHICH HAPPENS F to the freaking YI, it’s not ok and disgusting and disturbing? Double standards much? Feminism is BS much?
Eventhough i've never experienced assault, I was bawlig my eyes out in that part with Tyler. I know it's a tv series, but I couldn't help thinking how could someone be so horrific as to do that. It was brutal and had me shaking, like there was actual blood and the fact that Montgomery's a high school kid. I'm so mad at his character like why does he always take things too far, this is bullying on another level.
i feel the same way. i just couldn’t comprehend in any way how montgomery thought that what he was doing was at all okay. i legit paused it and just cried for 15 minutes. after i finished the episode, the scene remained in my mind and i just am so scarred by it. it was so intense and painful and real and my heart just aches so much for tyler.
im so glad there's people that feel like me, i feelt sick and almost vomit when i watch that scene, i had to stop watching because i was crying so much and i was so mad that i coudn´t do anything to help him and just ugh
That scene made me break down I felt sick to my stomach like i was watching something that I shouldn't have and like I did something wrong watching it.
I'm pretty desensitized to stuff like that, I watch a lot of SVU and that's basically every other episode so it's not a surprise anymore (in some related series/scenes), but that took me by surprise so much I'm cringing just thinking about it. Poor Tyler, that was so unneeded and awful, I thought he was just going to be threatened or beaten, NOT FLIPPIN R*PED. This season was a lot more than I expected.
The scene with Tyler was so disturbing. Also this season was really emotional! I wish we could all have a huge group discussion about everything that happened. I'm gonna need a few weeks to fully digest all the content.
Episode 6 is the BEST episode in the season and I’m glad we all stan Zach!! His opinion of Hannah never changed even through all the rumors which is why Clay would have NEVER deserved her! When everything started coming out you could see Clay’s take on her change and Zach never swayed. Also Tyler deserved better he changed so much and they just had to ruin his life 😤
alleysweetheart I don’t know I really liked one part of a episode I can’t remember which episode but it’s the scene where everyone in the School partakes in the fight
Actually Clay deserved better.If Clay wasn’t there no one would fight for Hannah’s justice.Its fiction otherwise in real life a boy like Clay would never cared someone like Hannah
Honestly same. I really don’t get effected by things often, I rarely cry if anything, but this was so different. It effected me like literally nothing else I’ve ever seen through a show or movie has before and I’ve watched some dark shit. It was horrific and really caught me off guard in the worst way.
Tyler was put as in need of critical attention. I just knew everything would get worse when Mr Porter was fired. That was not the right decision for the school or students, as Kevin learned from his mistakes not to let students slip through their fingers that easy. Plus, it takes a while to warm up to a completely new therapist/guidance councellor before you can trust em
@TheKat12364 Yeah, anytime I watch 13 reasons why I'm like, what kind of school is this because Liberty is a horrible school and I would leave and transfer to another school
I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't react or mention the moment where Clay remembered Hannah when their song played at the dance. I get the rest was a little over whelming so that was minor in comparison, it just broke my heart. Especially for Clay whose fought so hard for Hannah to let others (that are alive😂) comfort him. Anyways yay thank you so much for this video 😄it was so funny and awesome and I'm officially in love with Tony😍
Forever Compare In this fandom, that moment is super important. But yea clay’s eulogy and then the dance scene? I was just a puddle of tears. Because everyone stopped what they were doing and it ended up with clay getting a group hug. That. Was. So. Fucking. Wholesome.
Dylan you’re not alone in not wanting to see Justin go back and forth with the drugs but I don’t want him dead I feel like he redeemed himself by testifying for Jessica about what happened and having been okay with getting arrested and when they do season three I have high hopes that they have him be clean and adopted
As someone who is an addict and has struggled for a decade, I can honestly say that Justin's arc was actually realistic. Esp the last scene of him seeing his past self and almost not using - then ending up using. I've personally been through that.
But am I the only one who just wishes Jeff never died? He had so few scenes in season 1, and I still love him for being nice and having common sense. Jeff deserved better.
Fr he was so nice to Clay and helped him with Hannah he was one of the good jocks and was so genuine. Go look at my comment at the top cause I commented that before I saw this comment lol. I loved Jeff.
Tyler’s scene was literally one of THE most graphic things I’ve seen. Not even gore sites get that graphic because its usually just pictures. Like... that scene is snuff level and was so shocking.
I agree with almost everything that you said except about Justin’s struggle with drugs. I loved how realistic it was. It is so hard to break away from drug use. Even when you have the best of intentions and you want to get better but it’s for other people. It will never happen. In the season he wants to get clean go Jessica and more or less for Clay and his parents. Multiple times he it so close to giving up but one of them pulls him back in. That will only work up until a certain point. You have to truly want to get better because you believe that you deserve better for yourself. Even though I would love for his character to get clean I think the writers did a good job of portraying a realistic struggle with addiction.
Come on Justin & Clay are amazing together, i do agree, he has to be clean by episode 1 of season 3 and his step-dad has to be gone by episode 3 at least, so they can build from there without the drug storyline.
Jessica: "I wish you were dead." Really? After the whole last season? After all people said, that show is about how to treat people so nobody feels they need to kill themself. And then the writters gave Jessica this line? Really? Why?
@@assyrianprincess3 what about hannah?! I'm not saying justin is completely innocent but if you're gonna blame justin then hannah is equally accountable
AJ Malfoy What about her? Hannah was at the wrong place at the wrong time. She didn’t know what was happening. Justin however 100% knew what was going on and activity lied about it. Hannah was helpless in her position. Whats she gonna do? Jump out and get raped too?
@@assyrianprincess3 hannah obviously knew what was happening she said it in the tape. And bryce isnt going to rape 2 girls at the same time. Justin and Hannah both could have done more
So the sudden change that Chloe did, (looking at Bryce and then said she gave him consent even though she was raped) she found out she was pregnant and decided that she didn't want the father or her child in jail for rape which is why she said she didn't know what to do. Also Zach was the best character this season, man his cute and fluffy side really shows as well as how Hannahs suicide really affected him
I also think Chloe's decision was based on fear. If she speaks the truth, then she will be asked to face up to the fact that she is a statistic, a victim, and she knows Bryce would walk away with a slap on the wrist. Nobody wants to believe they are a victim. If she did know she's pregnant at that moment, his parents wouldn't want anything to do with her or the baby if she pointed fingers. I'm guessing the current political climate had made getting an abortion a little trickier to obtain. The name of the game is survival. If that means sticking your head in the sand, so be it. If there were a season 3 I want Bryce's parents to take Chloe in and make him drop out and get a job... they may be rich but Bryce isn't. How satisfying would it be to see him pulling shifts at wally world?
I'm still actually very...well traumatized is a strong word but I'm still shaken up after the Tyler scene last episode. I don't usually cry during shows or anything just my eyes get misty but I really full on sobbed. It was so graphic and wow.
I skipped over that scene without knowing cause I thought it was another beating until someone told me on Twitter. I was in shock and relieved I didn't watch cause I can't bear to see that.
Simone Umba the thing is I had my headphones in and watched it on my phone. I couldn't skip that fast or take them off. I was ok with the fighting and the drowning his head but the rest messed me up so much
og lifeline same here, it made me cry so much, I felt so bad on Tyler. It was just the whole the slamming of his head into the sink and the mop thing, fucking messed up, I couldn’t really watch, I only saw the blood on the mop, because I had a feeling that that was going to happen
What happened to Tyler honestly made me cry. It was so brutal it made my stomach turn. I wish I could unsee it tbh, I was not prepared for what was about the happen to him. I knew he was probably going to get beaten up by him, but fuck, I didn’t not see what did happen to Tyler coming. Also, I cannot believe that they left the end of the season like that.... like are you joking me😱
Yeah im also dissapointed on how this all ended... i hope theres a third season and bryce gets what he deserves .. ALSO WHATS GONNA HAPPEN WITH CLAY??? and TYLER?? this is so stressful
Juls C Tyler was supposed to shoot up the school st the end of the season but they had to take a different rout because like Dylan said they don’t want to glorify school shootings exxeptially after the florida school shooting
Juls C Ikr... but sadly in "real life" not always the bad guys gets what he deserves. And I really need to know what's going to happen to both Clay and Tyler..
Legit even just hearing the Tyler scene TRIGGERED me I almost shed a tear I’m deadass so traumatized that was AWFUL, but hey can’t be a 13rw season without something EXCESSIVELY GRAPHIC
I'm honestly really wondering if he kept up on season three, especially since season four just came out. He was so pro Zack that I keep wondering what he thinks of seasons three and four.
Did anybody besides me find the whole 'Clay talking to an imaginary Hannah' kinda hokey? Like I get what they were going for, he can't let her go, he sees her everywhere but at times it just went overboard and seemed like 'oooo she's a ghost!'....which really took the seriousness of the show and just made me laugh.
Saga I totally get the inability to let the memory of someone go, it does happen in real life. I'm just saying the show did it in a bit of a way that made it seem downright silly rather than serious.
-I love that you are basically a 15 year old girl in some videos (ie. High School Musical 1-3) and ur really funny and smart but also understand where the line is and how not to cross it -Sherri and Tony are honestly so underrated. -Zach is one of my favourite characters in this whole show and I ship him and Hannah so hard. -I agree with you about Mr. Porter. When the first season ended there were a lot of people saying that it was completely his fault and he was basically the devil. He understands that he needs to be better and that he fucked up but that doesn’t change what happened, he can only use that to move forward and I think it was a good idea for him to start fresh at a new school -With the blonde girl who changed her story I think it was unfair of them to ask her to testify against her rapist who she cares about (kind of?) when she just learnt that she was raped although Jessica couldn’t do it (not that she should feel pressured to, it’s her story). -Also thank you for not showing that scene in the last episode bc I was literally traumatized for weeks afterwards.
After season 1, i thought Bryce and Marcus were the most horrible characters in 13RW After season 2, i now think that Bryce and Montgomery are the most horrible characters in 13RW
In episode 6 I was like " I think I'm in love with Zack" but then the last episode I fell in love with Justin and genuinely felt bad for him and actually cried and btw I ship him with jessica
In the behind the scenes/director's cut thingy, some dude says how he wanted to show the real struggle of addiction, that's why it isn't solved so easily or swept over like in other movies, that ish has the power to keep control for years and as with everything else in this series, we're seeing it firsthand
I just wanted to go to sleep because I’ve got uni in the morning but then I got this notification; you think I’m not gonna watch this now? You’re wrong
Tbh I don’t think there should be a season 3. Like all questions were answered accept weather clay goes to jail for the gun or not. But after the funeral, trial, Ms.Baker moving, Jessica going to court and ending things. Maybe some people will be interested in Montgomery and Tyler’s plot lines but I’m not so I just feel like season 3 won’t be good.
The thing with Bryce is, that's a reality. The show created tries to keep things real so I believe that is why there was no resolution. There could be in the future but they wanted to portray how the money and power Bryce's family has can have such an impact on his sentencing.
If I was in this show or went to Liberty High : Clay-would annoy me always trying to be the hero and he wants everyone to open up to him but he keeps so many secrets Jessica- I just wouldn't get along with her Bryce and friends- avoid avoid avoid Justin: avoid Zach: totally would have a crush on him even though he doesn't have much balls Alex- maybe friends Ryan: BEST FRIENDS Tony: he would probably hate me slkjsjskj Sheri: BEST FRIENDS Basically all the boys: I would just avoid Tyler: I would occasionally be like hey and check on him but maybe not friends Cyrus: I would most likely date him
When I was watching the second season with a couple of friends, I was like „ Hannah and Zack are the most adorable couple ever“ and no one except me though so. Thank you so much for being on my side Dylan❤️
To the people that are mad about the tyler scene, there was literally a warning waaaay before the scene that said this episode has scenes that dispict graphic content (sexual assualt and drug use.) There are many and i mean MANY tv shows and movies with scenes way worse (I do agree is was disgusting and brutal.) But it's literally a show that touches on those kinds of topics, and stuff like that REALLY happens in real life. If you're too sensitive you shouldn't watch things like this.
have you even seen the scene? no warning could have prepared me for that and we're not dumb we know stuff like this happens and is awful but a graphic scene like that is unneeded. that shit was traumatizing. some of us being normal human beings with emotions =/= being too sensitive. maybe you're too insensitive, samantha
honeydew “it’s unneeded”...ITS FOR GODDAMN AWARENESS SHIT LIKE THAT HAPPENS AND NOBODY TALKS ABOUT BOYS GETTING RAPED OFTEN ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING. This show did that. Regardless how bad the scene was YOU WERE WARNED so the fact that you kept watching is your own damn fault.
Then again the show doesn't tell you at what time or how bad the scene is so you're there wondering, not knowing when, and then you see it and you can't do anything but watch in horror.
honeydew the warning said it clearly. This scene was so needed, these things happen everyday and we have to talk about it. If you're sensitive don't watch it (for your own good).
Yay! Another video! I’ve been waiting for this reaction since the show came out and you didn’t disappoint! I’m so happy with the Zach and Hannah history (agreed, they are ADORABLE!) and I love that he was trying to take Bryce down from the inside. Montgomery can choke. Evil bastard. The scene in the bathroom legit made me burst into tears and it still haunts me. I was expecting the shooting to go ahead though, especially since the courts found the school not guilty. For there to then be a shooting triggered (punny) by bullying within school grounds, irony! But I guess if Montgomery had gone out that way, we’d had celebrated it and like you said in the video, that’s not the right way. X
I think the reason why there was no resolution in season 2 is that the writers wanted to show that so many rape cases go without any real punishment. Also I think that Bryce's girlfriend didn't tell her story at trial because they wanted to show the effect an abuser can have on the victim (brainwashing type thing)
Here's the alternative ending i'd like to have seen Drug dealer comes after Justin with a gun, and Bryce shields him from the bullet and dies. Because to some extent, Bryce's friendship with Justin was the only postive thing about him (Bryce), not forgetting sexually assualting his girlfriend of course. This ending would have shown some hope for Bryce, in that he'd be considered less than evil. Then ngl, if Tony goes down for anything in jail, it should be for killing Montgomery. Maybe in S3 if the partially blind guy (Tony's victim) forgave Tony, and used his boxing skills to help take down Montgomery. Monty needs to be stopped and I feel like with Tony's sense of justice, there's no way he'll let him go free.
your reaction to the assault on Tyler is the same I had- I Literally cried so much after that- I can't even comprehend how this is something that people do to others like I cant
