That explanation that with a cadence sensor you're adding to the motor power, and with a torque sensor the motor adds to your power is EXACTLY what I've been trying to figure out how to tell people. Thank you for making it simple!
It's how have been explaining it. Also I want the motor to do what I call for with throttle. Example: on icy roads or snow, I want to ride with my feet out skimming the ground in case the bike starts to go squirrel. I can prevent most slips at low speed with feet acting as outriggers, and get off the bike if it's beyond controlling. That's what I need in a cold climate zone. Hub motor, cadence sensor, and throttle.
@@thankmelater1254 I finally got the twist throttle tuned well enough on my 52V BBSHD fatbike bike that it rides really well with throttle. But I'm not sure why you prefer a hub motor? Motobecane fatbike with a BBSHD is essentially as nice of a ride (in a different way) as my Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Alloy. It's hard to beat.
@@tptrsn I ride in city traffic, with an inexpensive bike that's heavy and I carry stuff like groceries and hardware. I like the feeling of helping the motor as much or as little every second, when I'm pedaling, rather than the motor helping me. Now, with that said, I've never ridden any other ebike, so you can judge what weight to give my opinion. 3 years in on this bike 11000 km stop-and-go city riding. The hub motor seems the simplest, least drive chain stress, cheapest, way to go. I have two 17Ah batteries, new planetary gears for when I need them replaced, also a low cost deal.
@@thankmelater1254 Conversely, I haven't had a hub drive bike, so thank you for elaborating! I HAVE popped a chain on my mid drive setup, so I feel your comment about the lower chain stress of the hub motor option, for sure.
Can't wait until solid state batteries are for sale to the public. They're for real as far as longer range,fastet charging & more cycles. I'm wondering how well they'll hold up to hot & cold weather. Getting ready to go on a 2 stroke motorized bicycle ride.
Thank you for what you're doing. I just finished my build and I couldn't have done it without your videos couple of regrets I wished I would have bought your bafang 750 w package you have the best price I ended up buying my display and battery from you and I will be writing a review after I have a few more miles thank you again I couldn't have done it without you . you're the best 😊
One of these days one of these manufacturers are going to come up with a switch to toggle between cadence and torque. They have map switches on off-road motorcycles that changes the timing and fuel, etc. This really would not be very difficult to achieve between a torque sensor and cadence sensor. It is just a matter of wouldn’t bring more money and then what it cost to put out.
The problem with the dual hub drives is You have to becareful in gravel with the front tire spin. The only hub drive I like is the roadrunner pro, the small size and power and speed is very good. You can't pedal them as they are a scooter. As for ebikes I like the Ristretto 512 as it has a cyc middrive.
I'm in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, purchased a Diamondback Motown mountain bike from Sport Chek in early July (list price C$749 = ~US$560). The Motown came with Tektro M275 hydraulic brakes, 180mm Tektro rotors, 787mm wide handlebar w lock-on grips, composite pedals, and a MicroShift Acolyte 1x8 drivetrain. This is a really good platform for a Bafang mid-drive ebike kit imho. I installed a BBS02 and couldn't be happier.
Very informative! You need to do a comprehensive video on re-programming the controller for a BBS02. Where to get the right program and suggestions on how to make the safest e-boke possible.
A guy at my gym saw my ebike and got pretty interested in the custom bbs02 conversion. I used the Johnny nerd out line to him. The best bike to convert is the one you own. 😅. Hopefully another conversion
I have a torque sensor and I like it because it helps me exercise but if I want to use it more like a cadence sensor I can push harder for just a little while to get it going faster and then back off and it keeps on going with more power.
Well, that explanation turned my understanding upside down! I wanted to get to work without having to need to hit the showers afterwards. Just ride with my bag and work clobber on. Admitedly our summers get bloody hot here (30-44°c) so avoiding sweat is impossible but...what I'd really like is to be able to hide the wattage of my motor from any coppers that pull me over, our street legal motor size is a piddly 250w! I'd like at least a 750w motor to pull me (220lb) and bag uphill etc. But I'm dreaming 😅
Hi Jonny. Cheers for the best e-bike videos on RU-vid. How about a video on best type of e-bike chain replacement, standard or e-bike specific? I have a 750w BBS02 and can’t decide with mixed info out there. Thanks. Craig.
Hey thanks for the reply. I will look them up. Another thought on a video is the bafang motor maintenance. Some other RU-vid recommendations are to re-grease at 1000km to add life however I’m hesitant to crack it open and mess with it unless really necessary and or going to add life to the unit.
okay...so, how much difference does cadence versus torque make to battery life and range. LIke, maybe this is a stupid question, but if you're going 20 on flat windey country roads, and can handle the majority of it with..wait, can you actually turn them off when you're riding anyway? but if you don't need your power really until you get to your destination on weekend trips and you can handle the majority of the ride without power, which is the best range option there? From your multiple descriptions I think I would prefer torque as that mimics the natural ride better but so many new terms...no idea what other considerations I may be missing
Don't book consultations! I booked One, after 5min I got a e-mail that asking me if sending e-mails was also good because video chat would be To difficult. We still live in 2024 right? When I reply yes fine by me and sending my questions I NEVER GOT A REPLY.
Hub motor with throttle is also for when you can't pedal for any reason, for winter when you want to use your feet to stabilize on snow or ice, when you're carrying something awkward from Home Depot, etc.
@@arronjohnston742 OK. I listened to the wrong people: "Most quality production bikes don't have throttles as most markets don't allow them and in our experience most don't miss having a throttle when they get a quality pedal assist bike. It could also be the largest mid drive producer Bosch made a decision years ago that they'll never add a throttle to their system. Claudia the head of Bosch ebike systems in North America stated it's due to safety and health reasons. It's simplistic to operate as you don't need to think about it, you just ride like you normally would and if you're always pedaling you're always getting some exercise, retaining the principals of a bicycle. I have to admidt I'm a bit biased since we only offer pedal assist in our store due to local regulations. I hope this helps."
@@thankmelater1254 "quality production bikes" yea i'm yet to see anything "quality" they add a lot of crap and make it hard to upgrade to me that's not quality but i guess the basic people aren't to know better.. my first ebike started in 2015 that bike has done over 30,000km (about 19,000miles) mostly on the throttle, if you want quality either build it yourself or speak to and have someone like "johnny nerd out" build it for you that way it'll be easily upgradeable and have a throttle too along with peddle assist
