MisterGreen is very generous with all these repairs. Maybe make an update video summarizing the costs of the repairs and refurbishments of Millennium Falcon?
I had some horrible experience with that guy and his company. My car was not properly repaired. On the contrary, it got damaged. I spent an additional 60k kroner at Tesla workshop to get all the problems fixed.
@@norseknowhow can't please everyone. Some repairs are quite complex. They have a 4.7 rating on google so it seems like the majority is quite satisfied.
@@TAD-9 i agree. And thank you for reminding me about google review. In my case, it was the lid of the charging port which would not close itself completely because some ice and sand got in between. Bosch Bilexperten first asked me to wait a couple of hours. And then offered me a loaner. They wouldn’t return my car until two weeks later. My model x was completely unchargeable and one falcon door glass had a huge crack. Nasir was kind enough not to charge me anything but asked me to go to Tesla. My insurance covered some expense but I had to pay 60k kroner myself. I’m never going back there even if they have 10 million good reviews.
@@TAD-9 His prices are insane dekkshift(tire change) from 430kr(43$)? WTF every other place has it like 250(25$) or 350kr(35$), Also EU controll most other places cost around 450kr up to 650(65$) but in his shop its FRA 1250kr.(125$). I think for any average person i would definitely recommend to avoid this shop!
@@17genc Who does an EU-kontroll at 650 kr today? 5 or 6 years ago yes, but something happened. I shopped around a lot, everyone were 1200-1300 kr in my area (Drammen)
Well, that was fast, seems you are in good hands. Preventative maintenance is critical to components exposed to the elements. So refreshing how honest Bilexperten and their mechanics are.
Since you don’t have a leak when stationary you could have a leak in the Ac compressor that is only leaking when in use. Just guesswork from my part. I love these repair videos!
I noticed the Texa air con recharge machine has been loaded with UV dye in the compressor oil so if a refrigerant leak is suspected in the future it should easily show up under a UV lamp..
Nice video! I can't, however, understand why you folks speak such good English! You're a great asset, Bjorn and I'm so happy you seem to have completely cleared your COVID.
I would be surprised if it will charge faster. My 2014 model S get the same charging curve and ac was checked. AC was only 10g low on gas. Also Tesla couldn't find any problem with the car nor battery. I was told it is 3% over the performance of the whole fleet. The car has 199,000 km.
Good stuff.. my higher Mileage p85 had a strange rattling noise and I thought for sure it was something to do with the air suspension. Tesla priced out new air shocks, but when they looked at tit..t hey decided that it was the wheel bearings.. suspension was good. And, what a difference in ride quality. It seems that the air suspension, while expensive, lasts a long time.
Well the 700gr gass is not correct value for this car. You can check the RH frunck cover and you can check it, it should be 750gr. Also it is possible to inside the car from the AC core inbeded in HVAC system. But overhal it verry nice to see Milenioum Falcon repaired
Mekanikeren virker som en kjempe fyr, bra han fant og reparerte feilen isteden for å bare bytte deler. Men jeg må si, Petter Solberg har fått en sterk konkurrent.
yea prob there is another leak somewhere else like inside the cabin condenser or it occurs under pressure, also the ac compressor could be wear out and as it operates it could loose some gas, very tricky stuff hope you sort it bjorn,
Sometimes the solenoid block is leaking or the solenoid itself is not 100% tight anymore and so over time the air is pushed back from the suspension into the reservoir.
On the flip side - this is the hassle with used cars. Something goes wrong - you need to find who can fix it, try some solutions, spend time. Then something can go wrong again, more less anytime. New cars break as well but they are considerably less hassle free.
@björn did he say anything about weather problems like the ones om the suspension would be avoided with some kind of maintanence? If you look at every other var brand there are checkups and fixes done very year seems in the long run teslas need som tender lovin aswell
so the air conditioning provides cooling during super charging,how does this wurk??? I thought that there was normal cooling water running through the battery / modules and being cooled by the radiator plus riding-air or fan-air during standstill?
@@bjornnyland Thanks for your reply I appreciate your in depth tests. Over the last 30 years I have driven 1.8 million kms sometimes in the worst driving conditions imaginable. 1 night I was in a parade for 6 hours if I broke down there would be no help for many hours, that is why I think you should not have turned back, but it is easy for me me to say lol keep up the good work!
how can an air conditioning system / AC influence fast charging, cool the battery? The battery modules are simply cooled with cooling water and a radiator and fan? not through the ac system ..... Think that there is just air in the cooling water system so that the battery cannot be optimally cooled. Radiators have been replaced and this problem was not there before, right? air conditioning was not optimal at the time and made hissing noises, but super charging was then just optimal, wasn't it?
They should check for leakage with an UV lamp. I don't think the AC has anything to do with the battery cooling. And the battery temperature looked good. I think it is just the normal aging of battery. A diagnosis system would help. In check up they should have seen the corroded tilding sensor and exchanged beforehand. If you buy Febi Bilstein original manufacturer it is also much cheaper than from Tesla but much better quality than afermarket parts.
no, you are losing WAY too much. the system is leaking. call a local aircon installer, they have proper "sniffers" that can detect the leak. the bosch guys do good work, but looking for sweating joints is LOT leak detecting. the connectors used in cars often leak under pressiure, not vacuum. and the vaccum of those machines is not very good anyways. dont go to bosch, go to a actual aircon specialist and let them use a proper measuring took. should take just a few minutes to find the leak(s) if its losing that much.
@@ObligedTester "mobile" R134a systems (aka: cars) are exempt from nearly all regular regulations around F-gasses. so incompetent meachanics can just keep refilling systems (and bill people) all day long....
Is tesla actually using active A/C - cooling for charging? I did think it was just normal radiator with water and fan, and that the a/c is for the passenger compartment?
There is a chiller connected to the AC in the coolant loop for the battery on both Model S/X and 3/Y. They need active cooling to dissipate the high heat from Supercharging.
@@ObligedTester Over 100kW charging power generates a lot of heat in the battery pack. If you see a an old Model S or X at a Supercharger, you will hear the cooling fans and AC compressor going at full speed to keep the pack cool.
I would recommend to make leaking test with hydrogen. I had small leaks in my car. Every year I have to fill in over again 900g. Pipes are ok and nobody could find where gas goes. One company filled in system with hydrogen and turn on fan. Gas was leaking from evaporator.
Yes, the battery on this 'old' Tesla has active cooling and heating. There is a chiller bypass valve , a radiator bypass valve and a variable speed pump each for the right and left side of the battery. Amazing how a new company making their first car in a completely new technology knew their stuff right from the beginning whilst others (Nissan Leaf) ignore the importance of proper thermal management even today.
There is most certainly a leak somewhere. But it can be very hard to find. There is just so much you can see from the "outside" of the frunk bay. The first thing I would do, is to sniff the system with a electronic leak detector. To isolate the problem, the next step might be to separate the different pipes and components to individually pressure test them with positive pressure N2. That would lead you to the right component or pipe section. The refrigerant circuit on the P85 is kind of special, because in addition to the normal HVAC evaporator, it has a evaporator to cool the battery pack. I'm a refrigeration technician, but I know next to nothing about automotive systems.
So what is your plan for rinsing the bottom of the car? Maybe you could install some watering heads under the place where you park, and then boom. Problem is that this is mainly needed in winter, and what if the water goes everywhere and freezes... maybe this should be installed in the garage where it's over the freezing point, and with proper drains to not make a mess... just spitballing some ideas, probably already have been solved by someone clever, maybe there's even some ready made products that help with the bottom rinsing... a car bidet LOL.
@@RandyTWester If I had to speculate, I'd say that that can be reasonably argued for because it wouldn't be fortunate if every kind of oils and greases would end up in the public sewer. However, a quick rinse with clean water under an electric car would not be cause for such concern, I reckon.
Bjørn is it worth to invest this kind of many to the car that has 350k on the odo maybe is time for battery pack to serve as power wall and rest to the junk?
Millennium Falcon is special, she is worth preserving forever. On the other hand, I don't recommend old S and X reasons: Old battery tech, old, slow MCU, out of warranty, or soon out of it, expensive battery and motor fails incoming. Constantly braking fancy door handles and air suspension. Conclusion -> go for a new Model 3 or Y. If you drive enormous amounts of km per year, a S or X with free Supercharging could be a good idea, but not for the masses.
@@kasmopaya2676 door handles fixed, battery and motors warranted for 8 years with no limit which model 3 is lacking plus greater quality of ride. Agreed, not for masses, but same for model 3-too expensive yet.
@@kasmopaya2676 over all I think model Y is the way to go...., with used one there is always something... i got mine used at 6 months, 140 k miles now... and wondering what will happen next....ha ha
My gess is that you have a leak for sure, maybe in a new part. The parts that you change are original ones, or aftermarket? Aftermarket refrigerant parts are never near as good as original ones. Lets see in the next days/weeks how that goes.... Edit: By the way, eletronic leak detectors are much better in finding small leaks than the UV dye usualy used in the automotive world
My condenser had a pinhole leak that was detected by sniffer. You have to be careful what dye/oil you put into a hybrid or EV air-conditioning system. It must be non-conductive or you'll get compressor voltage leaking to ground. In fact you should never service a hybrid or EV air-conditioning system with a system that has been used for conventional AC systems or you'll contaminate it.
The technician seems really nice and all but did anyone else notice on his printout that his machine charged a R134A car with R1234yf? I hope it was just a misprint. Just as other commenters have mentioned, a more experienced tech would have put UV dye in the system the first time. I’d bet money that the problem is in the battery coolant pump and/or the active shutters not opening. It’s not even hot in Norway right now, 250g down on refrigerant is not the problem. Please keep us updated! Coming from a fellow 2013 P85 owner :)
Sometimes the condenser gets a leak from damage due to road debris. So the leak is not in the pipes or compressor. Harder to find the leak in the condenser as it is tucked away under the front fascia. This happened to my parent's 2013 P85+. Tesla replaced almost everything before they finally found the leak in the condenser, all out of pocket.
this will be a stupid things in the winter for the cars with heat pump. you lose refrigerant stop heating. Should have an redundant system for the heating in the winter :)
This is why alot of people opt for Toyota or other reliable brands, After this video i wouldn't touch a Tesla to many issue on par with Jaguar, Land Rover.
Do you drive your Toyota in Norway and expect it to be totally reliable with little servicing for 350,000km? And frankly, given the direction Toyota has been going and all the 'self charging' bollocks, I wouldn't go anywhere near a Toyota.
This car has 348000 kilometres on it. Hardly unreliable, especially when you consider Tesla had only been in the manufacturing industry for a couple of years when this car was built. How long has Toyota been in business? I should hope Toyota is reliable!
Do not throw Tesla into the same pot as Landrover or Jaguar (or Jeep). The Model S was the first car of a new company in a new technology and is way more reliable wilst the others cant get it right even after a century of trying.
@@crow3003 a Corolla costed when new maybe 20k, a Tesla S when was new cost was probably around 60k or more. also ur Corolla is almost 7 years older than the Tesla. Some of issues are pretty normal for a 15,20 year old car but not for a 7 year old.
