@Nissan370Z Glass ...soul red (crystal) metallic is Mazda's signature color and they charge extra for it; that's why 90% of their press fleet is this color. No one really talks about the other colors; for good reason -- boring! I could say some (similar) things about your 370Z, but I don't want to hurt your feelings...
@Nissan370Z Glass Now lets look at what Nissan makes in this range..oh right that god awful looking Pathfinder with its trash CVT...yeah the Cx9 is mile better than that shitbox lol
@@K03sport Most automakers have colors that cost extra and the soul red from Mazda is good looking on. They also have a good grey color and their white is just right as well.
I bought a 21 CX-9 Grand Touring last week for a couple reasons. 1. Cheaper than the equivalent highlander limited/platinum 2. I have two kids but don’t drive them daily. Just needed the space for their car seats and associated junk if I happen to have them instead of mom. 3. Looks good inside and out, and drives much smaller and lighter than it is. On the test drive I thought it was hilarious that it torque steered. Plucky thing. My wife calls it my soccer dad car and that’s exactly what it is.
I'm eyeing the exact same year and trim for the same reasons. Mid-20k seems like a steal for these. 80% of the time I'm by myself commuting, 15% I'm with my wife and kiddo, the other 5% would be for the "maybe we should pick up grandma and grandpa so they don't dive 40mph on the highway to meet us at Applebee's"
Everyone talks about how small the CX9 is but it's the best vehicle that I have ever owned. I am 6ft tall (over 200 pounds) and I have to adjust the seat forward, and the seats are very, very comfortable. I paid slightly under 35k for a Touring model with the premium package (lease trade in). I also got zero percent financing. I test drove everything and nothing came close to this price with all the features I got. Not to mention this is one of the safest vehicles you can buy in its class.
Price is a bit much, but the interior does look extremely premium. I think as a used car value in a few years, with low mileage for around $30k or less, this will be an incredible bargain
thats why you work with the dealership and discounts below MSRP.... never get a car for MSRP most especially if its a mass produced car that isn't a limited production car.
@@KuyaArbee true. There is always room for negotiation. However, the signature model is $49k as mentioned in the video. Getting it for $30k or less is $19k+ off of msrp. I doubt any dealer will do that for a current year car with 0 miles (brand new) especially if the car is sub $100k, nonetheless sub $50k. Like I said, great suv, but more of a value when purchased used in a few years. Just like the telluride, pallasade, etc
The problem I have when comes to comparing prices with the Mazda6, CX-5, and CX-9 is the Signature trim. Typically, the trim directly below the Signature(Grand Touring or Grand Touring Reserve) Typically gives you 90-99% of the features of the Signature without the fancier materials and shaves $2,000-$3,000. For example, the Mazda6 Grand Touring Reserve is probably the secret strongest value in the mid-size sedan segment, but only the $36,000+ Signature gets attention.
Honestly I'll never understand why people buy Mazda. Like they are not BAD per se, but they are soooo expensive. Like just insanely expensive. And it's not even that great - generally speaking. I am not trying to hurt brand fans here, and the Miata doesn't count, that's a unique vehicle. But the rest, like these CX series, or a Mazda6 - I don't know why anyone would get them.
Had ours for three years and 25k miles with no issues. I bought it because it’s the smallest of the big three row suvs, since we knew it would be only kids or occasional adults in the back. The transmissions shifts great, tons of low end power, upmarket quality, and overall design sets it apart from the back. I’d highly recommend driving one and or some soccer mommy suv with a weezy v6.
I've had mine for five weeks and love it. I wanted something that could haul stuff if required with room for the grandkids but handles like a regular sedan and this is it. I went with a demonstrator model with 1200 miles and paid $39700 after my 2010 Ford Fusion trade in. I just retired and with Mazda's reliability this may be my last new purchase.
I’ve driven the top trim CX-9 and top trim Telluride and both are great three row suvs but in my opinion the CX-9 is so much more enjoyable to drive. It doesn’t feel like a brick on wheels. Yes you sacrifice a little bit of space but I think these guys are over exaggerating a bit with that - the CX-9 is still an adequate sized 3-row SUV but it drives smaller then some of the other ones in its segment which is what I love about it. All depends on your preference
I love the tribute to the retro Motorweek Reviews with Jack comically turning dials, flipping switches, and generally just man-handling the interior components of the car in a way that no one does.
@@Jacobk66 no it was not... it had Asin 6 Speed ATX , Fords very solid 3.7l V6 but build in Japan by and for Mazda , platform, steering, braking and handling were more like huge Mazda 6 rather than more boaty Ford .
The Geese are so good, that it's entertaining to watch the entirety of their videos even if you don't care about the vehicle at all. Well done, informative, and always good for a laugh. 15:00 LOL
You would buy this because: you want an SUV, but fun to drive, that looks handsome, looks upscale, that’s reliable, and you don’t really need daily to haul 6 people, but have option to haul 6….My son has a 2021 CX-9 and is very happy with it.
I get you guys, you're the best! It's always a thrill looking forward to your next vid even though it might be about a car I care nothing about, don't change, keep them coming..........
Here we go again! No cargo space with the third row seats up. Well if you improve that .... It becomes a frickin VAN! Do you want practical, or something that doesn't look like a VAN?! Well, we all know the answer to that one.
Absolutely, my wife needs a bigger vehicle but doesn't want a van. So this is exactly what were looking for, a good looking SUV that mostly never uses 3rd row.
@@leventsl If you don't need/want a 3rd row the CX-5 is 20" shorter than the CX-9, has a curb weight over 550 lbs less, an identical engine and drive train, has only about 11 cubic feet less overall cargo space, a similar upscale top trim and costs thousands less. And that's why Mazda sold over 5.5 times as many CX-5's as CX-9's in (156,000 vs 28,000) in 2019.
These three row SUV's are for soccer moms who are in denial that they are lame soccer moms. If you have more than two screaming kids, you really do need a minivan.
We love our CX9. With only one kid it's perfect. Both adults are also not large, 5'7" and 5'2". If you are a larger person, this is not your car. The third row is only folded up once or twice a year. The driving Dynamics are great. This vehicle fits a niche.
I bought my new Mazda 3 2020, M-Hybrid, Skyactiv-G 122, MT, Selection, Design Package (in Germany: Matrix LED, iActiveSafe) after watching your review(s) about how Mazda changed the game in the middle-class, hatchback space. I booked my test-drive just after i saw your video about good/bad. Tested also the new Golf, the Focus and the i30 with automatic. I didn't want any SUV, Crossover-thing because from the moment i stepped into the Mazda 3 i felt something special. And ohhhh yeah, the car is special. Is now at 1400km and i love it more every single day that i'm driving. Cheers.
I have the 2019 and it's a great car. I don't use the 3rd row all the time and it's great to have it when you need it. I'm looking forward to the next gen CX9.
"This carpet pulls up, the pile is really nice, and when you vacuum it you can put lines in it" - Mark (12" C@#K) Sanevski Hysterical video guys, keep it up!
I don’t think $47k is too much for the MSRP when every one of its competitors is atleast that much, but more importantly Mazda dealers are anxious to move them so there are some incredible deals on them. I’ve spent lots of time behind the wheel of late model CX9’s and the interior is outstanding with surprisingly plush materials, very soft leather, the steering/handling/agility is outstanding for such a big vehicle but I agree that the ride can be crashy over certain pavement and the chassis doesn’t feel as rigid as some competitors. Other plus points are that the engine is extremely smooth for a 4-cylinder, transmission isn’t decent, and particularly in Soul Red this is a pretty sharp looking large SUV.
the cx9's biggest problem for my family is the lack of interior space and the compromised 3rd row that being said this is by far the best looking entrant in this class Imo
Funny story, we test drove one this weekend. (1) The 2020 is the year to get (if you're shopping one), a lot of updates from 2019 (2) the Grand Touring is the package to get (3) the rear view camera resolution is the worst I have seen especially for a $40k vehicle (4) at this price range, the absence of a pano roof is a big negative (5) THE dadmobile to get for driving experience in this segment (6) really good deals right now due to overstock (7) low cargo space especially with 3 rows up With rumors of the next gen Mazda 6 expected to go RWD I can see the CX-9 going to a RWD platform
I also test drove this weekend along with Highlander Palisade Ascent and Pilot. CX9 is the best deal and handle great. But it really lack the interior width and refinement. The vibration coming from the floor and engine doesn't sound as nice as the V6 from Honda and Toyota. Also like video mention the engine have great power down low then it flatten out quickly. Great for the price but I would go for Pilot with strong v6 airy feeling interior and heavy discount. Palisade is the most smooth and comfort with best interior but dealer asking $2k markup is a hard NO.
Thanks for being hard and honest on this. I was thinking this was the be all of 3 row suvs. I'm still happy for the style and the driving dynamics, I hope this gem gets undervalued and I can find one used for cheap a few years.
Loving this. You kept true to who you are, kept the humour, and still showcased the vehicle for what it is and what kind of life it fits into. It's fine to love and geek out over high end, ultra modern, performance machines, but these run of the mill dailys... they and the people who rely on them deserve recognition. You can make fun of them. You can joke about them. You can compare them to high end track weapons. Bag on them all you think you should, but in the end, it's not the Ferraris and Lambos, the Demons and C8 Corvettes that keep the country running. It's the regular cars. It's these, and those like it. Thanks. . Oh, and I still have a soft spot for the Mazda 6.
Mazda should make minivans again like the Mazda MPV or Mazda5, give them the same attention to detail in interior design as the CX9, but with a much more usable cargo hold. That would be an absolute winner for Mazda, and would be an interesting option in the minivan segment.
The Mazda 5s used to sell like hotcakes here in Canada. In fact, most "quirky" car designs (hatchbacks, wagons, cars with manual trans', etc.) are sold here because 'murica only wants big clunky cars with soft suspensions and 16 speed automatics. Every time I travel in the states, I'm appalled at how many 90 lbs housewives drive around in Chevy Suburbans and Dodge Rams.
I'd LOVE to see a new Mazda5, it's would be so nice to have a van that's not full sized, but people here reeeaallyy hate them despite all the advantages they offer. It's gonna be painful to see them go and get replaced by crossovers 🙄
This truly is one of your best videos. Top lines: "Don't you want to help the economy, don't you WANT to go shopping?" and "Its the best SUV ever, except for this, it doesn't really fit anything in the back". Then, that sound you made (lifted from one of your other videos) when you floored it.. I mean, I watched this video yesterday and then today I watched it again.
I just bought one of these, a 2022 Signature with the parchment interior (under red). I absolutely love it. I traded an Alfa Stelvio for it because the Stelvio wasn't large enough for the family but I wanted something that didn't make me miss the Stelvio too much. I still miss the Stelvio (I'll get a Giulia eventually) but I'm completely happy with the CX-9 whereas I don't think there's another three-row SUV I would be able to tolerate. I have to sacrifice a little space for a dynamics? Gladly. I have no interest in driving a truck no matter how practical. I love Mazda for the same reason I've always loved Alfa; they prioritize the driving experience over the pedestrian stuff (I've always seen Mazda as the Japanese Alfa... my kind of company). P.s., I love Mazda's response re space. Exactly. The (relatively) limited space will keep my wife from turning a vacation trip into a gypsy caravan; I'm all for that.
"...the CX-9 AWD system doesn't send power to the rear wheels quickly enough, which can result in torque steer if you need to accelerate away from a stop quickly." " In dry conditions, the system is designed to minimize the amount of torque it sends to the rear wheels, which means during full-throttle acceleration, the CX-9 and its 310 lb-ft of torque will chirp the front tires and then proceed to torque-steer, leaving the driver to wrestle with the steering wheel. Considering the AWD control module is monitoring both the accelerator position and steering angle, I feel like the moment the accelerator pedal is depressed fully, power should be moved to the rear to mitigate the effects of all of that torque on the front wheels." Motor Trend
Simple sticker tires on FWD version deal with all this great torque much better and make you accelerate much better when needed... Yes cars with V6 and 50lbs of torque less allow you to be careless how you put power down and maybe better for soccer moms or average American car buyer. Sticker tires that I have on my CX9 grip so much better than stock Falkens
@@WoZIMoo Horsepower sells not torque just because 95% of people do not now than Torque is a usable power rating not horsepower. So Mazda's 320 lbs tq will sell worse than Toyota's 300 hp.
The CX-9 sales are up for Mazda of the 2020 year. This reviewer should have mentioned that rather than make it a dinosaur that's dying off. It's a little older than the other Mazdas but it's still their flagship and it's still performing brilliant. Yes it's real wood(reviewer, do your homework). Do not rely on people such as this reviewer to make your buying decision. Rather take it from an owner or owners that's been driving the CX-9. I've had mine for over a year now. I can tell you it's been a pure joy of pleasure and reliability. It's been a very reliable automobile! Not all the competitors can say that. Please review Consumer reports and check-out Car and Driver's reviews(best 3 row in it's class for 2019). The reason the CX-9 design has not changed is because it's simply timeless. Mazda nailed it! Best looking and most reliable 3 row in it's class. Did I mention it gets 30 miles to the gallon on the highway. It has the best torque in its class, 320 pounds of it. It has very adequate space for hauling. Very few people pack their cars down like a U-Haul. It absorbs potholes extremely well. Not any shock waves going through my CX-9, lol. Yes, there are definitely some areas that need updating for the CX-9. But they are subtle ones. Don't buy the signature package, go for the best bang for your buck, the touring package. I paid 36 thousand for the premium package upgrade. That's a great bargain for this car. Also, Toyota has so much faith in Mazda that it bought 5% of it. The CX-9 is a great car and this design will be around to admire for years to come! It's pure Japanese excellents. Mazdas will become a premium brand. They showcase that when they built the CX-9!
Their cars are uglier than homemade sin. That's why their sales are way down, most people just don't like the styling. It is objectively ugly. Big dumb looking grills flanked by the worst looking wheel arches ever conceived and don't even get me started on the rear end of the 3. That car is hideous all the way around. I guess for some people, the only taste they have is in their mouths.
The problem with the CX-9 is the poor use of the space it has. It is one of the largest 3 row SUVs with FWD based architecture with the smallest usable space. It's almost as long as a Chevy Tahoe. The 3rd row is a JOKE for even small kids. Just too old given the rapid pace of upgrading going on in this segment.
People HAAATE minivans, so that option is out sadly 🤷. They're the most hated vehicle type on the planet by far, which breaks my heart because i love them so much.
Yes, but the point is that the CX-9 inefficiently uses space, despite having similar dimensions to its rivals. A lot of the space is lost due to the seriously long front hood, which is (I believe) required for SkyActiv-G tech to work (and why every Mazda model has a long hood... for longer exhaust travel). The complaints wouldn’t be warranted if the CX-9 was shorter than, say, a Highlander. But it’s not. In fact, it’s slightly longer than a Highlander, but with less interior volume. Does the Highlander fare that much better with the third row? No. It suffers from the same issues as the CX-9, albeit with slightly more space. It’s still not viable to fit adults in the third row for longer trips. You still need a minivan for that.
It's true that midsize SUV's don't offer expansive third row seats. But they're not all created equal, either. The CX-9 and the Highlander are the only vehicles that offer less third row legroom than the 30" of a Mustang's back seat. (29.7" and 27.7" respectively.) All others offer nearly 32" or more. I own a KIA Sorento, 189" long, 10" less than the Mazda with 31.7" of legroom in the third row. We don't use it often and I wouldn't put a couple of passengers back there for a long road trip. But for chauffeuring a gaggle of teenagers to an event or a short trip for six or seven passengers when two vehicles would otherwise be required, the third row is a great convenience. It remains stowed probably 90% of the time but when we need it, it's a huge convenience.
But what if you don't need that third row that often? I own a minivan that has similar small third row seats, in 15 years I've used it about 10 times. It is awesome. Its good to have in rare case of needing to drive more people, but 99% of time car is used as 4-5 people carrier with big cargo area. Seats taking a bit of cargo area was never an issue. Buying bigger SUV or bigger minivan means it will be longer, it will be heavier, more fuel consumption and it will cost much more. CX-9 is a good compromise.
I wonder how much this changes in the 2021 editions. I educated myself from your videos and I almost got a 2020 CX-5 signature in a nice light blue color. While looking at it, the dealership had a 2021 CX-9 Touring w/ the Premium package for around the same price I had limited my budget. For sure I won't have the heads up display and the napa leather seats, but I still got some leather and yes, more space and a much better infotainement system. I'm used to the non-touch system and honestly, a big advantage here is opening carplay as soon as I plug my phone in. That's subtle but big. That's personal preference but driver's console cluster is a bit better when analog, I like to see both Km/h and Miles/h there. The cargo space and 3rd row are not as bad as I imagined but I still don't have that look and feel of a big square box I'd get with the Telluride. Again, a personal choice, but I find the Mazda CX-9 to be the best exterior looking non-luxury 3 row CUV/SUVs. Something would be missing if I had the CX-5. The kids' carseat makes anything 2 rows look like a 4 seats car as well so that's an issue I have with the whole category.
Couple of notes. The wood in the interior really is wood and not synthetic plastic made to look like wood! LOL! Also, for anyone seriously looking into the CX-9, the Grand Touring trim level is identical to the Signature sans the wood trim and premium leathers, but drops a few thousand off the price tag.
Big fan of your review. One question: did you ever notice brake pedal vibration resonance around 2000 rpm to 3000 rpm ? Can you plz plz let me know, coz I just got 2020 one, I’m not sure if that’s an issue.
I’ve owned a 2016 signature for 4 years and I don’t think it suffers structural rigidity. I was not on the market for a 3 row suv, I wanted something practical for a family of 4 (don’t need the 3rd row, it’s a bonus) without compromising on driving dynamics (my daily at the time was a bmw 128i manual and we lived in Colorado with frequent trips to the mountains. In fact I crossed shopped it against a jaguar Fpace but could not justify the $15k differences or similar equipment and the Mazda had better quality and materials. My next one may be a Genesis GV80, unless Mazda refreshes the CX9 with their rumored RWD platform
Ride handling is big one I wish they would change. I've seen several CX-30 reviews mention similar things... when you hit any sort of rougher pavement or pot holes it doesn't not do well enough to absorb, isolate, and prevent it from transferring throughout the whole chassis/cabin. The 6 is supposedly getting a new RWD platform an I6 so hopefully so I'm guessing they'll wait to do a major refresh of the CX-9 until then.
Good review, 3 years later I am being offered a 2023 cx9 signature, my other options are X-trail 2023. Do you still recommend the MAzda? or should I go Nissan.
Point is , this older product build for those few who appreciate driving with more feel than those looking for sofa on wheels like approach. Power is awesome and very usable with no need to rev the hell out of these V6 based cars. Good fuel economy , great torque to get you out of the corner if you even know what Im talking about here 😉 CX9 to me is more like large wagon than 3row CUV. Previous gen CX9 was this kind of "American" CUV approach , huge interior , tons of space , cushier ride, V6 with lot of torque and power .....and what ? It still did not sell better either ! So what is the point here? Mazda is Mazda and they will continue to build cars for these few who appreciate the driving over hauling and who can appreciate attention to detail , design and beauty. This greatly aging CX9 still looks so much cleaner and has amazing exterior proportions and look than any so called new designs . Telluride mentioned here and everywhere , that is a nice brand New vehicle designed for American market that is one of the best in that kind of the vehicle but it is so heavily overrated in review world , drives big and feels rather large . Drove Pallisade and Telluride and Pally felt little tighter to drive and had better control over Telly but still not even close on thither roads to this "old" CX9 . I have used sticker tires 255 width and it applies power very well with no need to rev the hell out of the engine when you need it to move . New one will come by 2022 looks like and I hope Mazda does not try to build another Telly here... I hope for RWD , inline 6 3.2l with turbo pushing 320hp and 350tq , maybe 4 qubic feet of cargo more gained mostly by removal of 3 rd row (avail as package) New 8 speed ATX for RWD layout , Mazdas attention to design detail and same amazing sound system from new 3 with woofers hidden in the A pillars , 3 way speaker sounding that good. Yes I'm European and in 5% of American car buyer and we buy cars too.
its likely going to be 3.0l as it would be based on the current 2.0l skyactiv-x (add 2 more cylinders). I don't see a turbo in the base trim/for a couple years, especially if theyre moving the cx-9 timeline up. Even if its naturally aspirated it would make 266hp and 248lbft at 3000rpm, a drop in torque for sure, but a gain in hp. I'd guess the Mazda6 would probably be redone first just cuz its been out since 2013 (although heavily updated), and the cx9 to be built on it, although the cx9 should be a higher priority as you want sales. Also I've noticed that it appears Mazda cares more about the European market than the North American one, which is quite interesting considering NA is currently the largest market they have.
@@HeavyMetalorRockfan9 3liter with out turbo with just 248lbs of torque for a large vehicle like CX9 will not be enough no matter how buttery smooth Mazda and Toyota can make this engine . Mazdas balanced design fits world markets expectations much better than American market where size and bloat are a key .
Video idea - you had series on how you went about getting the shop space and making it suitable for filming. Are there any other things you do in the shop and perhaps a video about that? Don't you use that shop space to maintain your dds and track cars?
I drove an atlas, pilot, explorer and highlander. I will not drive a minivan, I was also coming from a 2012 expedition. I now own a 2020 CX-9. I picked it because I loved the drive over the rest of the seven passenger midsize suv. I also have 5 kids under 8 and like “fun” so the CX-9 was a great fit for me!
Great points SG. Honestly, I'm not a fan of the CX-9, rented one for two days for a long distance drive and ended up pinching a nerve in my left ankle. Finding a good driving position was tough and I have long legs so my foot was somewhat jammed in the driver side foot well. There is a lot to like but they are behind now and as you noted, the U.S. market requires more space and their driver side cockpit area is just too tight.
CX9 is such an interesting story, it was designed for North America market, but failed in market there, it was never intended for Australia/NZ market, it has been the best seller for the segment for several years now. I own one, totally agree everything said here, but I feel this is much better product than last gen Toyota Highlander which is still on sale here in Aus/NZ. And CX9 suits crappy Australian roads perfectly. Look forward to next generation battle between CX9 and Highlander.
