7 Glorious Engine Ideas Which Eventually Failed

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@wtfiswiththosehandles 6 лет назад

Aircooled engines are not a failure, what happened to them is normal obsolescence and phase-out. It's kinda like saying that carburettor is a failure.

@richardbohm5778 5 лет назад

very true. in fact air cooled engines are still used in aircraft, look under the hood of any cessna, or any number of other light aircraft using lycoming or continental engines. the problem with air cooling in modern car engines is the higher heat that modern engines are running to reduce wear, emissions, and increase fuel economy. so air cooling is not a failure.

@nthgth 5 лет назад

I think it's also that water-cooling systems weigh a lot more than air-cooling, not great for aircraft.

@richardbohm5778 5 лет назад

@@nthgth really? some of the greatest planes in the world used liquid cooling, the P51, the spitefire, the BF109, in fact most of the british planes in world war 2, the P38, and many others.

@nthgth 5 лет назад

@@richardbohm5778 well I never claimed to be an expert, but I know some modern ones are air cooled. Why are they?

@richardbohm5778 5 лет назад

@@nthgth for the same reason you dont see modern electronics on small aircraft, like electronic ignition, EFI, etc. less to go wrong.

@branon6565 6 лет назад

That VW scroll-type supercharger sure makes a great little noise, doesn't it?

@Knapneder 6 лет назад

The sound you hear on both clips is made by a toothed belt instead of the original twin v-shaped belts. The benefit was to have absolutely no "belt lag" when accelerating, but the major downside was that if you hit the limiter even once, the supercharger would explode... It is due to the fragile conception in the G-shaped supercharger. But with proper use and maintenance, this was extremely reliable.

@coydog7902 5 лет назад

Sounds like a british front load washing machine

@Ezquister 5 лет назад

What about the brb double float 8?

@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 года назад

Knapneder negative

@mittdersonne 4 года назад

my first car was a polo g40, mainly the bearings start to make lot of noise when they start to wear out. I bought mine and didn't know the history, but i didn't get the much deserved maintenance it needed from the previous owner. but great fun for such a small first car.

@HomebrewSubaru 6 лет назад

Oval pistons with dual connecting rods, I remember a teacher at school showed us a video describing it. Really cool stuff.

@sim6057138 6 лет назад

Homebrew Subaru how was it like power-wise I would imagine a shit ton of torque

@Kalvinjj 6 лет назад

*And it also sounds glorious in low revs too

@boston7704 6 лет назад

I heard one of the NR750s at Bike Week in Laconia. Made the hairs on the back of next stand up, unreal engine sound. Closest I've heard as good was the Ducati Desmosedici (sp?)

@LuckyWitjaksono 6 лет назад

Wow ur teacher is really cool then

@Adi-xe4ut 6 лет назад

Homebrew Subaru NR500 is cool but why those thing Failed

@Heavisidestep 6 лет назад

Oval pistons allowed to maximize the surface of the pistons in engines with the same bore ratio, and displacement. In practice it was possible to obtain the same potential of a 8 cylinder from a 4 cylinder. This kind of engines was banished from the copetitions before the peak of development. Not a failure, but the exact opposite.

@pedroferrr1412 5 лет назад

Yes, they did sell the NR750, if you had money.

@babaabdul6510 5 лет назад

one piston with 8 valve make power same with 2 stroke with same cc

@troygrant5418 5 лет назад

Aprilla mc?

@gabrielibarra5551 4 года назад

It was too good?

@sparkie5571 4 года назад

@@nicklibby3784 They're still developing it, and mainly never used because of poor MPG and emissions. They were reliable though if you actually kept your maintenance up.

@TotoGeenen 6 лет назад

rip rotary engines, you will always be in my ̶c̶a̶r̶ hart

@sprk_music 5 лет назад

hart

@Z4G. 5 лет назад

The rotary is probably coming back, it has been said that Mazda are working on a new hybrid car. Google it, its pretty cool.

@Z4G. 5 лет назад

@@Grimmsha72 Bruh tf this is youtube not university fam haha. Its ignorant to say it will have the same impact as the older engines. They are probably gonna be small, but still, a rotary is sick nonetheless.

@Grimmsha72 5 лет назад

@@Z4G. Yeah ok...bruh. Who even says that anymore? It's going to have the exact same inherit killer of every rotary engine ever built, the seals. Nobody has come up with effective long lasting seals for them. Under normal driving even putting average miles on one they wear out in about 2 years. Unless Mazda found some alien tech they reversed engineered to make stronger long lasting seals, it will die again. I never said it's a shitty engine either. They are amazingly smooth and produce a constant power line throughout their rpm range almost as good as an electric motor but people expect to replace brakes and tires around then, not major engine overhauls. To the general car consumer that is a shitty engine to them. Ohhh and not a University. You're right it's not. Horrible concept though that you might learn something however isn't it?

@Z4G. 5 лет назад

@@Grimmsha72 Aight bro, what are you even on about? I think its cool that they are coming back. Its the best we can get. And obviously they will need a good bit of maintenance as every rotary needs. Apex seals need some love you know.

@mincemangler3141 6 лет назад

I can't believe I never considered the fact a piston could be something other than a cylinder

@andrews1374040 6 лет назад

therealtruth right!?! Ig technically you could make a engine with each piston a different shape. It would be completely useless and have no practical use. But if you really wanted to you could do it.

@pureblooded3877 6 лет назад

Wes Andrews there’s a video on this site of a square piston steam engine. Pretty sick if you ask me

@TwIsTeDxGuArDx 6 лет назад

It would make life so much easier if they had square pistons and also accessories, etc. for it.

@alexanderkramer6047 6 лет назад

The reason pistons are only cylinder shaped is because it’s the easiest to make and easiest to seal.

@TwIsTeDxGuArDx 6 лет назад

alexander kramer what's the logic behind a cylinder being easier to seal? When you have 90° angles set in stone there's not much possible error

@key2theuniverse713 5 лет назад

"Ideas that sounds gloryous but eventually failed" Communism?

@nicklibby3784 4 года назад

Don't forget Communism's cousin: Socialism

@johndriscoll213 4 года назад

Ideas that sound shitty but actually are still shitty: capitalism

@maxterchefe 4 года назад

@@johndriscoll213 show me on the doll where capitalism hurt you

@johndriscoll213 4 года назад

@@maxterchefe My dad's cancer treatment costing $1M and bankrupting my family? I don't know, you tell me.

@maxterchefe 4 года назад

@@johndriscoll213 i dont know what kind of cancer your dad has but i highly doubt it cost even close to 1M. And also capitalism in the United states and rest of the world is tanted by government intervention and regulations driving the cost of care to higer levels

@tonyppe 6 лет назад

I cringe every time someone starts an engine and revs it immediately before giving the engine a chance to idle. 😬

@olina5563 6 лет назад

If the engine is warm it’s fine

@tonyppe 6 лет назад

Heuristic X No it isn't.

@olina5563 6 лет назад

Tony P proof?

@tonyppe 6 лет назад

Heuristic X If you need proof go and ask any engine builder. If you put your fingers in the door frame and then close the door you're going to get hurt, you don't need proof for that. Likewise, when an engine starts, the oil is sitting in the bottom of the oil pan and the oil pump starts with the rotation of the engine. So initially there is no oil being pumped around the engine. Just give it a second or 2. With a warm engine the oil will be thinner so will take less time to get pumped around. There are exceptions but generally oil pump is run from the engine itself and collects oil from the pan at the bottom.

@Sleeper47 6 лет назад

Tony P what if the car is already warmed up beforehand but the ignition is killed, then start up +rev for vid purposes? just wanted to know

@Lucas17fr 6 лет назад

Aircooled a fail with 21.569.464 beetle produced lol

@MADMAN1747 6 лет назад

Not exactly a failure, just obsolete these days just like the Rotary ;)

@TheDonCucaracho 6 лет назад

Plus a few LeMans overall wins and fastest ever Nürburgring lap

@MADMAN1747 6 лет назад

What are you on about? There is not one air cooled car in the top ten fastest lap times for Nürburgring haha

@Lucas17fr 6 лет назад

Porsche 956 in 6:11.13

@MADMAN1747 6 лет назад

Ah i see, not a production car... fair call

@sandrooliveira458 6 лет назад

The rotary engine can have a lot of problems, but its Sound, the way it lives well with the Turbo, how it produces power even though it has low displacement ... that makes there are motor lovers like me

@alanbrown397 6 лет назад

Rotaries are great engines, but not in road cars (or at least not directly driving the wheels.).

@nobodyhere4860 6 лет назад

Rotors are great for race engines! While they were race legal they dominated piston cars! However racing is high maintenance. As for Street cars, the first gen 12a rx7 wasn't a failure at all, it was a light weight fun little car that millions of people loved. On the other hand the Rx8 was a well balanced cool little car, it was actually a little to heavy for a n/a twin rotor motor! So they tried to re-engineer 13b With high compression rotors and reworked ports, but we can't help the dog piss fuel that's in the pumps these days so the Renisis was doomed to fail. Some people put regular gas instead of the recommended premium and it would literally blow the sparkplugs right out of their threads! There are some crazy fast 3&4 rotor cars out tearing up the tracks!!!!

@codyallen63 6 лет назад

I agree. I love the way it sounds but the low end power output and the longevity of the motor really kill it for me. That being said if I ever bought an RX7 I would never think about pulling the rotary engine in favor of an LS like people do. It just seems wrong to me. Not to mention swapping a rare engine for a far too common LS.

@pulsartech2945 6 лет назад

Sandro Sobreira there are no issues with longetivity if you maintain it properly. Even a bridgeported 13b can withstand about 180k+ with proper maintinence. I just rebuilt a rotary last week for the original owner of the car. The motor itself failed at 230k miles. Now the rx8 motor is shit and I hope it gets set on fire. Low end power gas never been an issue for me with my vehicles so I don't understand that complaint and pound for pound they do make more power for a few reason but the main one is higher revs capable 9-comfortably around 13k. 3 rotating parts in the motor basically speaking means less power us going to be lost to rotational energy being converted to linear energy. Way easier to modify as well. Simple porting templates can be found online if you have steady hands, good apex seals. Removing the OMP and premixing will give you a super reliable engine.

@codyallen63 6 лет назад

Pulsar Tech Very interesting. It’s good to hear they can be built reliably and that’s really interesting about the porting. They don’t make power down low but who really cares if you rev the car to launch it and with good gearing you can be in your power band. The sound of a rotary is always intoxicating. And yes, the RX8 motor does suck!

@doc.voltold4232 6 лет назад

that G-ladder WV sounds like heaven tho...

@MrJarvisful 6 лет назад

It really those

@TheAdatto 6 лет назад

Doc. Volt Friend of mine had one. Lader = Charger (german to english) had some nice power but broke down easily

@ryancorter93 6 лет назад

Sounds like I'm about to explore time and space! Lol.

@Knapneder 6 лет назад

@BruceCarbonLakeriver 6 лет назад

It's not a Ladder.... (bad pronounciation!) It is a Lader (one d and pronounciation on the a like in "car"). Lader = Charger -> means G-Charger and this comes from it's inner shape. As this is even a product name there is no "english"-like pronounciation allowed ^^.

@uszeyboi 6 лет назад

the first non biased youtube car channel i've found - dude, you are making very interesting videos, sometimes featuring cars or infromation i've never heard about

@chaoringmeister 6 лет назад

Cylinder deactivation has become a thing again recently, and kinda works thanks to better computers. This also means that technology could bring back a lot of other things on this list, Wankels for example will run on hydrogen quite well thanks to its natural knock-free characteristics. Sadly I doubt the NR with its crazy oval pistons will ever come back as it was designed specifically around racing regulations of the time.

@8Hshan 6 лет назад

AFAIK the main problem of wankels is the sealing - there's a lot of edges to seal, all of them in a harsh environment of the combustion chamber and with no ability to successfully keep the oil out of that chamber. And burning oil just skyrockets the emissions above any norms. On hydrogen wankel would still be burning oil, so still wouldn't be "clean", and hydrogen is a) expensive b) problematic in terms of storing it.

@doc.voltold4232 6 лет назад

szafirowy01 also hydrogen tanks are *KABLOE!*

@8Hshan 6 лет назад

xHarux3 That doesn't work like that. The oil shouldn't burn AT ALL. Every amount that burns makes harmful gases, and AFAIK they can't chemically react, so another cat won't help at all.

@rudkacka 6 лет назад

problem is, the Wankel engine is designed to burn oil, it has to burn some amount of oil in order for the apex seals to be lubricated, if they get straved of oil, the seals get damaged and when you add more oil to the car, it suddenly burns more oil, because your seals are damaged, its just the design that cant go hand in hand with todays emission standards, unless someone finds a way to lubricate the rotary without burning oil, the design is no longer viable option of making an engine, thats why mazda discontinued production of wankel powered cars

@coin666911 6 лет назад

There must be a way to add lubricity to the seals thought besides oil. I'm not sure if it would work on Apex seals but there are titanium nitride coatings that are used on tungsten carbides that looks gold but it's incredibly hard and somehow has lubricity on it's own. Also guns can be coated in it such as the titanium gold desert eagle that Magnum Research makes. I can only imagine what we will have for coating technology 15 years from now though.

@joepkortekaas8813 5 лет назад

I predicted the Honda NR500 engine in an article in "Motor", dated February 1979. Even my prediction of the stroke was only 0.3 mm off! A later version revved to 21,600 rpm. See also my book "Honda's Four-Stroke Race History 1954 ~ 1981".

@EstevanTH 6 лет назад

I expected to see something about the Chrysler Turbine here! :-D

@christiank7837 6 лет назад

Mohamed RACHID That thing is awesome don’t lie.

@Toolaholic7 6 лет назад

There are a couple left,Jay Leno has one.Most of them were turned in and crushed

@Pedros93 6 лет назад

i've been following this channel since his first videos and, aren't you a gem?! really glad i found you, really informative and pretty good to watch, probably my favorite car channel of them all (also your english is getting better by the day!) kudos man, keep the good work!

@emdotrod 6 лет назад

Rotary is a failure. Aside from Mazdas, what other car uses it? It is a good idea killed by the regulations and it never took off

@franciscodieguez5187 6 лет назад

Ardimo Harsa Norton F1, Commando and NRV588, some NSUs, Suzuki RE5 and one Citroën

@zdynowa6136 6 лет назад

Ardimo Harsa NSU . An old German brand that produces first car with rotary engine .😁

@Namesakes.unit-x-10sq10 6 лет назад

It worked well for sachs as a snowmobile engine, and there are small rotaries for sale as gokart engines, and they kick ass!

@franciscodieguez5187 6 лет назад

William Jenssen Yeah I forgot that, they sound fucking good.

@zdynowa6136 6 лет назад

William Jenssen yep . These small rotary engines are awesome ! One of them is mounted in rc planes .😁

@berth7843 6 лет назад

I heard a fact that Mazda is going to re-produce some rotary engines for using it in hybrid vehicules.

@carlosandleon 6 лет назад

Berzerque eh, wasted potential on their hcci engines. id rather use those if I'm making a hybrid. maximum efficiency. The wankel is dead

@naufalabyani6314 6 лет назад

Mazda furai??

@berth7843 6 лет назад

Carlos Leon, you know that rotary is more efficient at regular speed. So they will use electric motor for acceleration or for the city and when u are on the highway the rotary turn on. There is some rotary work with hydrogen and they are interesting and maybe had a future in our societe.

@Tiger351 6 лет назад

Current emissions laws and materials technology will pretty much rule out the rotary even as a hybrid. The requirement to have an oil injection system in a wankel rotary is the whole reason they fail modern emissions standards. HCCI would be a better alternative until materials exist for a non-lubricated engine exist. Isuzu were working ferro ceramics to try to at least have non-lubricated pistons/rings/bores in a conventional I4 piston engine over a decade ago, but the research seems to have led nowhere as well.

@tonyppe 6 лет назад

I think that would be a great idea! The engine could be pretty small but have good power output for charging batteries and or supplementing power to the wheels.

@scottmclennan6114 6 лет назад

“Bat-shit crazy ideas”, I love it mate!!

@2stroke4me 6 лет назад

Honda tried to experiment too much with engine, chassis (from eggshell to tube frame), suspension, wheels, fueltank, basically everything at once instead of focussing on the experimental engine only and putting that in a proven chassis. In 1987 an NR750 was raced during the 24 hours of Le Mans (dnf) and in 1991 Honda came up with the NR750 road bike, which was the pinnacle of their technology at the time.

@philipph3421 6 лет назад

Pressure-wave superchargers (Comprexlader) were also a pretty good idea. Like in the Opel Senator diesel.

@Qgal5kap123 6 лет назад

Cylinder on demand (COD) did not fail. It's still available on several newer cars.

@michaelrockwell9691 3 года назад

My freaking 2016 Corvette has it. I HATE it! Why would they ever install it on a sports car?!

@piccalillipit9211 2 года назад

*WHEN I WAS A KID* a friend of my father owned one of the Moto Guzi V8's - I remember my dad trying to convey to a 6-year-old me how special it was... Only now I am 50 and watching this do I see that it rally was SPECIAL. All I can remember is it has a watch glued to the centre cap of the steering column. The guy was called Peter Monahan and he used to build exhausts for bike racing teams in the 60's and 70's

@ScottRidesHonda 6 лет назад

Dude that NR500 reving up just keeps going and going!

@T0m0zuki 6 лет назад

Anyone watching this while taking a dump?

@brasimetal7656 6 лет назад

@hayabusa2266 6 лет назад

when I saw this i just sat on the toilet

@903strikerunit 6 лет назад

Your farts will sound like revs..

@T0m0zuki 6 лет назад

My farts sound like a two stroke engine.

@903strikerunit 6 лет назад

and if you ate doritos = rotary beer and pork = diesel chilies = NITRO!!! anything else i missed?

@JamieR1988 6 лет назад

If they sort out the fuel and reliability issues of rotary engines then they would make great cars. I'm a turbo piston engine man myself, not got a lot of love for rotary. However, I do have massive respect for the engineering behind it.

@davidhusband5022 6 лет назад

can you explain these reliability issues to me? ive had rotaries all my life, never had one blow up or die on me, and know people who have them with over 300,0000 kays on them, still going original engines. how are they unreliable? who told you this? I thrash my rotary all day round a race track and drive it home. unreliable you say??

@ghoulbuster1 6 лет назад

I think the rotary engine is a very good idea and shouldn't have it's potential wasted, I think if it got further advancements it could be one of the best engine typed ever made.

@smokeytimberz4894 6 лет назад

Love yer vids. Keep up the good work

@cal1k 5 лет назад

A VIDEO WHEN THE THUMBNAIL IS THE FIRST PART? you are a saint.

@FiliposM3 6 лет назад

I don't think the rotary or air-cooled engine were a failure. Idea was really good, but the exhaust emissions or newer technican solution killed them. Just like two-stroke engines ;>

@rudkacka 6 лет назад

2-stokres are just too noisy

@CaptHollister 6 лет назад

Rick Delair. They don't. They produce too much NOx to meet emissions regulations. That's better than dumping a load of unburned fuel out the exhaust port on every stroke like carburetted 2-strokes, but they certainly dan't have incredibly low emissions.

@marvinblankinchip2535 6 лет назад

Rick Delair ... Now let us have your opinion on 2 cycle engines.

@dielitant9783 6 лет назад

Rick Delair I LOVE my 2-stroke KTM. Sounds amazing. Has power whenever I need it. And looks amazing

@Complextro93kg 6 лет назад

i hope mazda makes next gen rotary :)

@chrissss696 5 лет назад

They will use tiny rotary engines as generators for electric cars

@sadboiiuloff5508 6 лет назад

Love the voice. :) visiting your channel after a break, and it's a very nice touch.

@AMightyPanda 6 лет назад

Great video, cool to see you getting better!

@kaposvaribando1277 6 лет назад

i hope the rotary won't be on this list

@Twinspinner 6 лет назад

kaposvári bando lol

@kaposvaribando1277 6 лет назад

fuck

@alejocaldas1979 6 лет назад

A real pity :"c

@samaguirre3283 6 лет назад

kaposvári bando unfortunately it’d be the first one I’d think of big time

@kaposvaribando1277 6 лет назад

Sam Aguirre I think and hope that they'll bring it back in the future

@RussellBooth1977 6 лет назад

2 engine ideas that failed with Holden were the 202 cubic inch 6 cylinder & 1.9 litre Starfire 4 cylinder engines. The 202 cubic inch engine had an issue in carby form where number cylinder number 5 leaned out & the piston would either seize up in the cylinder or you would find a hole in that piston. The first of them only put out 66 kilowatts & achieved 18 miles per U.K. gallon meaning that some of the Japanese 2 litre 4 cylinder engines were just as powerful but were more economical. They were a stroked 179 cubic inch engine but they didn't get it right,maybe they were better off keeping the 186 cubic inch engine. There were a few homologations of the 202 engine, the very last were the 86 kilowatt black 202 with Boschs EST (electronic spark timing) & the 106 kilowatt Bosch L-Jetronic EFI version which was a vast improvement as far as power goes but its fuel consumption remained the same. The increase to 202 cubic inches in capacity was so Holden could sell it as a towing motor. The 1.9 litre Starfire 4 cylinder engine was a 173 cubic inch 6 cylinder engine which was cut down to a 4 cylinder. The idea is that they would bolt them into a 6 cylinder car so they could rival the Mitsubishi, Datsun & Toyota fours but it was a flop because the 58 odd kilowatt engine had to be flogged to get the car moving meaning the car had 6 cylinder like fuel consumption. They were tough engines but their redline was only 4,400 RPMs so they were no more powerful than the 1.6 litre Japanese fours. Holden wanted to make a larger 2.2 litre engine out of a cut down 202 engine but balance became the issue.

@rossbrumby1957 5 лет назад

Red motors of any size could separate the top off a piston, were notorious for stripping the fibrous timing gear and dizzy gear after getting hot, and generally burn exhaust valves as a kind of fuel.

@lizardywizard 4 года назад

My G60 golf still going strong thanks!

@pixelposse2024 6 лет назад

Good stuff man, keep it up.

@narasimhadevarasetty9558 6 лет назад

Love your intro music bro..

@TotoGeenen 6 лет назад

if you are reading this I hope you'll have a nice day

@aleax5670 6 лет назад

Donald Drumpf I hope you cn shut the FUCK up lol

@d0gyface 6 лет назад

I dont think so?

@geotec67 6 лет назад

Fuck Off

@TotoGeenen 6 лет назад

George Woodward yeah yeah, thanks

@lindongreen8922 4 года назад

Ta bud....and you

@nickthompson9697 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for tracking down footage of the Moto Guzzi V-8.

@legobuildingsrewiew7538 6 лет назад

I love your videos thanks for your work

@Roflmfaoftw 6 лет назад

You forgot this "sometimes the government kills you, if your idea is revolutionary"

@knowledgenuke6029 6 лет назад

Roflmfaoftw bull shit

@d3funk09031990 6 лет назад

Knowledge Nuke ignorance is bliss my friend.

@MEGASTRIX 5 лет назад

This is so goddamn true. I remember that one invention where piss could be used as fuel. I thought that was interesting but nope the inventor just fucking dissappeared.

@knowledgenuke6029 5 лет назад

Bick Dig so what I’m not crazy Elon musk is not dead yeer

@MrDoboz 5 лет назад

@@knowledgenuke6029 you are right, but Elon Musk is very far from being a genius

@joehughes5638 6 лет назад

i can feel the Rotary fan-boys getting triggered already

@michaelbamber4887 6 лет назад

David Hill well every engine is as good as the owner, plus power to weight of a rotary makes up for more maintenance, totally reliable if maintained, you know a drag car needs a rebuild every couple of runs? A f1 car is the same lucky if it makes a 1500km without blowing up. Your little shit box of a car will be made to run for years an 200000km with no bother other than maintenance. Reliability and longevity are not the same thing mate.

@michaelbamber4887 6 лет назад

Hooha888 you missed the point I was making, reliable for its given life, if your engine is built to last 1m miles but won't start every time you need it, then it's unreliable, but if it starts first go every time it's reliable but only for the 1m miles. But as we all know for some reason or other one can last longer than another of the same type. Rotory or piston.

@michaelbamber4887 6 лет назад

andy600 oh yes I love a good chin wag. Working in engineering since a lad, I have learnt a bit.

@michaelbamber4887 6 лет назад

andy600 well yes but only cause I like provoking the reaction. From your name, you a fellow biker too?

@abelsinko5734 6 лет назад

Well yes. Most people thinks reliablity is something like: "the lowest effort to maintain, take care of the engine (or the car itself overall) and of course it should start immidiately". If people take care properly rotary engine just as reliable as a piston engine. Rotary is not for everyone...hm...I guess in a way it's a good thing.

@JavierCR25 6 лет назад

Another great Visio vídeo that kept me googling stuff hehehe

@joesshows6793 4 года назад

Good stuff as usual

@armandjohnsharp1703 6 лет назад

That Honda NR500 & the Moto Guzzi V8 sound Narly.Great shame VW didn't build more cars with the G-Lader engine (ex.the polo in the video & the VW Corrado G60). Sounds great,remarkable zippy & punchy for it's size (on paper at least).

@underscore8085 6 лет назад

this is a vw polo g60, not a honda

@carrizog60 3 года назад

@@underscore8085 polo g40. Corrado,golf and passat g60

@randymagnum143 6 лет назад

Honda has a tough time sealing round cylinders, lol.

@ChrisRProductions 6 лет назад

Randy Magnum stahp 😂😂😂😂

@PistonAvatarGuy 6 лет назад

On one engine, decades ago. That was also a unique and crazy design with its bare aluminum, FRM cylinders.

@randymagnum143 6 лет назад

idontcare80 um.... they just had a class action against them because of oil consumption. Also, I've never had a Honda that didn't consume oil.

@PistonAvatarGuy 6 лет назад

I've owned and worked on Hondas for 17 years, I've never seen one that consumed any oil, unless it had 100,000+ plus miles on it and hardly ever had its oil changed. I had one that had 300,000 miles on it that didn't burn a drop of oil, and two that had over 220,000 miles that didn't consume any oil. The recent problem with oil consumption only affected V6 models, Honda mostly sells 4 cylinders.

@randymagnum143 6 лет назад

Whatever. Honda finally had to pay out after it went to court. They tried to claim a gallon of oil between changes was normal consumption. Check your oil every time you fill up, they said. That blue smoke behind a v6 accord ain't unicorn farts. 1.5 million cars ain't a small problem.

@bitkarek 6 лет назад

dobry, ze vymyslis porad zajimavy temata. jen tak dal.

@bradster1708 6 лет назад

What I find really fascinating about the NR500 was that while it was a revolutionary design for sure, but it came about not in the pursuit of advancing motorcycle engine design but as a way to circumvent rules. Honda hated 2 strokes but the only a 4 stroke had any hope of competing against the 2 strokes was via high rpm. Higher rpm= more HP, more cylinders=more rpm therefore more cylinders=more HP. And 2 strokes have rpm limits. Only problem, rules. Maximum 4 cylinders, 500cc and 6 gears. The oval cylinders were just a V8 in 4 cylinder guise. Another thing, it was not motoGP back then, the class was called 500 GP

@goneutt 6 лет назад

Modern GM V-8 do the half bank thing today

@myguydied 6 лет назад

Matthew Trzcinski honda did cylinder shutdown pretty recently too. Looks a great idea ahead of its time necessitated by the world oil crisis - the other ahead of its time invention during the crisis was the hybrid

@rdsimmonds 6 лет назад

GM has been doing the Active Fuel Management again on a number of their V8's for more than a decade now. There were still some bugs to work out, but the system works much better now. They've even started doing it on some of their 6 cylinder engines as well. They've managed to get it working well enough that they even use it in the Corvette and Camaro engines.

@nthgth 4 года назад

Update: the current crop of GM trucks has engines that can drop down to just two cylinders iirc

@spldrong 6 лет назад

8-6-4 concept is still being used

@spldrong 6 лет назад

And tons of air cooled engines are still made....

@kenyonworthenii7389 6 лет назад

Yeah and it still fucking sucks

@Sagetower7 6 лет назад

I like the concepts behind the rotary engine too, I am glad it was featured in this video.

@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 4 года назад

That was very bold to show a Honda Motorcycle while talking about ideas that "Triumphed" (Triumph Motorcycles), and others that didn’t.

@Mr6Sinner 6 лет назад

I just realized why I haven’t seen a video from you in months.....somehow I got unsubscribed

@carlovermk2506 6 лет назад

Uriah Siner same

@doctorclaw8232 6 лет назад

same here

@dellstudio10 6 лет назад

Same thing happened to me. Weird, but I'm subscribed again and happy!

@Nick-vr6en 5 лет назад

Same here.

@illinoisvisuals 5 лет назад

@@lemonballs9755 the zucc strikes again

@Ms.Fowlbwahhh 6 лет назад

You are wrong on air cooled engines. Lada just finished making an air cooled diesel that passes euro emissions!

@MrDatjewboy 6 лет назад

Devin Stambolziovski doesnt mean it's good

@Ms.Fowlbwahhh 6 лет назад

MrDatjewboy anythings better than the piece of shit peugeot diesel they use

@meusana3681 6 лет назад

Lada doesn't count ever

@Ms.Fowlbwahhh 6 лет назад

Meusana you misspelled peugeot and renault

@user-rb9on3qv9l 6 лет назад

Meusana Fuck off.

@kawaii_sinon9940 6 лет назад

LOVED YOUR VID

@kbrod666 5 лет назад

I didn't know Borat did Automotive videos. VERY NICE! 👍

@MrGimmethreesteps 6 лет назад

Surprised the Miller cycle engine used in the Mazda millennium wasn't on the list

@ragimundvonwallat8961 6 лет назад

oh dear! memories!

@Ivan-xk5uz 6 лет назад

Just one thing about rotary... Rumor is that Mazda is preparing RX-9 for 2018 or 2019. Rumor is that it'll be two two chamber 1308cc rotary just like it was in RX-7 and RX-8. Rumor is that it'll deliver somewhat like 450hp. All the rumors.

@puregaming3976 5 лет назад

Thx for the rumors

@sebsshenanigans 5 лет назад

that whine from the golfs.. :') i love it!!!

@islandaerial3414 6 лет назад

Good one!

@AdamAdamHDL 6 лет назад

Rotary's biggest disadvantage is development. Only 1 manufacturer decided to make use of it. Many dabbled but only Mazda (and a model plane engine company) are developing them. So it's limited. If only Mazda were doing pistons engines they would be struggling along too

@OwkeejGamers 6 лет назад

but piston engines were always more reliable, so why go with a rotary when you can build a piston engine that is more reliable. It's not worth the risk. Plus, NSU started the rotary, not mazda

@lordmg2068 6 лет назад

MienKreft Skiewars Wankel Engines are more reliable, Mazda showed in lemans. The big Pistonengines of mercedes or porsche where only to do one 24h race, the Mazda 26b 4 rotor was after victory of the 787b able to do anoother 24h race. Its only logic that its nore reliable, it has only 2 moving parts, the rotor and the crankshaft. A piston engine has more moving parts in one cylindet than a whole 4 Rotor

@OwkeejGamers 6 лет назад

Lord MG but they won't be reliable enough, i have a classmate that has a rx-8 and he says he could better buy a reliable car like a civic.(that he already had but sold) and if you need to take the engine apart every 60k km it's not the best engine to sell when piston engines can last way longer

@thapelomashaomasemola7922 5 лет назад

@@OwkeejGamers every car is taken apart every service, thats why there are service intervals

@inanismailov 6 лет назад

The cadillac sixteen has cylinder deactivation and it cuts out 12 cylinders if I am not mistaken. Hondas have this along with diesel BMW 4 cylinders.

@optimusboy1 6 лет назад

Inan Ismailov the sixteen was a concept car, but yes you are right and i think it got a little over 16mpgs with a 13L v16 that made 1000hp and 1000lbs/ft of torque

@stevyndress9637 6 лет назад

Most Chevy v8 gas trucks drop to a v6 on the highway

@rdsimmonds 6 лет назад

They drop to a V4 on the highway. Even the Corvette and Camaro have the Active Fuel Management now. And they've started using it on some of their 6 cylinder engines as well.

@wyattcannon9865 4 года назад

i like how it shows the rotary revving up to 7k rpms, past the stock redline and it doesn't sound like its going to blow up

@dylangruich3100 5 лет назад

There is an engine being produced now that has 6 opposing pistons in 3 different cylinders. They meet together in the center and the combustion pushes both pistons back to the depths of their cyclinter only to be pushed back up by another cylinders combustion. It has great fuel economy and is relatively small in terms of liters. But the engine is fairly tall because of this design. They are even trying to make a version that runs on diesel!

@ianreed1528 2 года назад

The opposed piston idea is not knew, in fact they were designed as Diesels

@GazC Год назад

Welcome to the 1880s

@aaroncone6778 6 лет назад

When it comes to air cooled engines, I'm surprised that the Duetz V-12 that was an option in many heavy U.S. truck manufacturer's, didn't receive more R&D. Was a fairly reliable engine.

@aaroncone6778 6 лет назад

Rick Delair Thank you for the Feedback. I've heard about, but never seen a Detroit 4-51 in person, only in videos. As I am a diehard Detroit man myself, I had always wondered where Detroit would be today, if they had put more R&D into the "Valveless" design. Thanks again!

@aaroncone6778 6 лет назад

I would say, that you scored HUGE, on the "Minimally Invested" parts, lol! As I have lived & worked with Detroit 2 strokes my whole life so far, there is no other engine manufacturer that I know of (Other than Mack Diesels, but that is another story), that hold up to the constant daily use, hot or cold environments. I too, know that the Detroit 2 strokes (all engines), can burn as clean as a 4 stroke. The EPA started putting the clamps down on everyone, and following CARB's lead, to basically extort the trucking industry with new laws, that prevent anyone from making money. It won't be too long, and the Feds will start outlawing all trucks that have no emissions (it will happen, eventually), and with the intro of the driverless Tesla truck, sooner or later, I'll probably be out of a job.

@PistonAvatarGuy 6 лет назад

Aaron Cone - You anti-EPA people are ridiculous, you'd have us all living in a cloud of smog like the Chinese just so you could have some quirky engine design on the road. What's wrong with you people, exactly?

@aaroncone6778 6 лет назад

idontcare80 I have no problem with the EPA, and I know with R&D, there can, & are better engines that make less emissions. But when I see entities like CARB (for example), making all heavy truck diesels That were manufactured before 2008 "Illegal" for use, where does that put the truck owner/fleet owner? Out of business usually. What happens after That? I understand that the EPA has to have certain "Criteria" for emission controls, but where does it end? When government starts to control everything, where does that leave the public? Thank you for the comment.

@PistonAvatarGuy 6 лет назад

So we can choose between some fleet operators having to buy newer trucks, or dying of emphysema and lung cancer.... hmmm.... though choice. All I see is CARB forcing innovation, because there are alternatives to diesels. Wrightspeed has one alternative, Tesla, Cummins and others have another which works for short range transport.

@arabonarocketcamel8352 6 лет назад

They need to retry that V8 that can use less cylinders, computers would be quick enough now to manage that awesomely

@JV-io3nn 6 лет назад

ArabOnARocketCamel General motors has been doing that for years now, as well as other manufacturers.

@haussman242 6 лет назад

Active Fuel Management. Almost every newer GM vehicle uses it. At certain rpms/speeds the computer shuts down cylinders to save fuel.

@torgrimmyt3549 6 лет назад

I like your videos; always a few interesting pieces of motoring history to be found here. Btw, keep your presentation style; you have a good balance between content, comment and video length and a casual but informative way of talking. Thanks for sharing. :)

@VisioRacer 6 лет назад

Thank you!!

@homefront3162 6 лет назад

We had a V-8-6-4... Worked great

@dabotz_draws 6 лет назад

Some of these Ideas were just tried early, others have not failed as much as been superseded because of a non technical change of the situation. Take the Moto Guzzi v8.. Synchronizing 8 carburettors must have been a bit of a nightmare, and it was horrendously expensive to build, but it didn't really "fail". All Italian bike producers of the time decided to forego racing, to spare the expenses involved (a stupid, stupid mistake that made them "prey" for the Japanese, little more than t a decade later, when bikes would become - from everyday transports - a leisure item), while they were still tuning it, and that was its premature end. More than a failure of the engine, it has been an example of tunnel vision of the producing company's management. Similarly, the Caddy 8-6-4 came around just a bit too early - many cars, today, sport the same kind of cylinder deactivation, to stay within the "gas-guzzler" tax limits (the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio is but one of them). The idea was and still is good, just prematurely put in execution - with better electronics it is now a relatively common feature in big-sized, multi-cylinder engines. Similarly, the main problem of the G-Lader was VolksWagen selling it as "maintenance-free". It is not so... it needs its maintenance, and some parts replacement at periodic intervals. If maintained well, it can last as long as the engine it feeds. The air-cooled engines didn't really fail, either... it is just that it is though to keep them always exactly at the right temperature - something quite easily done, with a thermostatic valve, in a liquid-cooled engine - and, thus, it is hard for them to keep up with the modern anti-pollution requirements, so they were superseded. Porche has kept building the things till the early '90s... The same can be said of Wankel engines, who still "lives" comfortably outside the automotive field (the biggest Wankel ever is a natural-gas fed pump mover for petroleum pipes ). Some technologies are tried too early, other cease to be suitable for the needs of the intended user - it is just normal. I wouldn't necessarily use the word "failure".

@thomasmetzbauer6570 6 лет назад

You forgot puchs 2 puston - 1 piston rod idea :D

@franciscodieguez5187 6 лет назад

Haaregegrillt Do you mean the twingle engine?

@thomasmetzbauer6570 6 лет назад

Zentäi 289 yes correct :D

@aaronstephens2373 5 лет назад

That bike sounds awesome!

@Fightre_Flighte 4 года назад

Good video. Great outro music. I'd say take my money, if I had any.

@oscarzt1652 6 лет назад

7:13 that sounds like a V8 not a B6

@tobyr8555 6 лет назад

Oscar Thorpe yes my thoughts also. It can't be a boxer 6

@olina5563 6 лет назад

Yes it’s a boxer 6, when you straight pipe 911s it has a deep almost V8 like sound at low revs, when you get up there it starts sounding like a boxer 6

@olina5563 6 лет назад

At least I think it was straight piped

@coydog7902 5 лет назад

7:07

@vaugr1917 6 лет назад

wonder if direct injection will help with rotary emissions problems

@christopheraugustine5816 6 лет назад

I am not really sure, as I am not a rotary guy. That said - it is my understanding that the problems inherent to emissions on rotary engines were due to wiping seal wear and failure coupled with increased oil consumption. Once the seals are on their way out and you are experiencing fuel blow by and using excessive oil, the engine has to be rebuilt to meet emission again. Most people will not tolerate this sort of maintenance schedule. So in this case direct injection would not help. It would increase the specific output, though. Direct injected air/oil cooled forced induction rotary, anyone?

@dellstudio10 6 лет назад

It's possible. The non turbo rotary engine's are very reliable though. Most people that own them with high mileage run a mixture of gas and oil like you would on a 2 stroke engine. It's not uncommon to get over two hundred thousand miles on the original seals that way. I had a one that still ran great at one hundred and thirty thousand miles when I sold it. Good engine's. Just have to know how to keep them up.

@nerd1000ify 6 лет назад

unfortunately running premix makes your tailpipe emissions totally unacceptable for a production vehicle. To give you an idea of how bad it is, a 5 hp 2-stroke outboard (as seen on many small inflatable boats) emits more pollution than a 100hp 4-stroke.

@dellstudio10 6 лет назад

nerd1000ify Wow, I had no idea running pre mix produced so many emissions. I live outside city limits and the county does not require a emissions test. Good thing too because my Mazda probably wouldn't have passed.

@thomaswalz3515 6 лет назад

I had '72 Honda 600 coupes... air cooled 2 cyl, 4 stroke, fired 360° apart, great fun to drive but, if you managed to get more than 40k miles out of an engine... it was a miracle... the motors ran very hot. I remember cooking dinner on top of the motor after driving all day.... wrapped some meat in tin foil, a can of baked beans... 15 minutes later, dinner. I went through 4 crankshafts before I gave the cars up.

@ChainsawChuck13 6 лет назад

The sound of those air-cooled Porsches is just amazing. One of the few sounds that can come close to a crossplane V8 as far as I'm concerned.

@RedneckDarian 6 лет назад

why is an air cooled engine louder?

@billthetaxcollector4521 6 лет назад

the fan follow the engine rpm so when you accelerate it make some noise

@RedneckDarian 6 лет назад

Bill the tax collector so the extra noise is mostly outside then?

@Tiger351 6 лет назад

That and the coolant inside the water jackets absorbs much of the combustion noise, there are some other factors as well.

@rosaatomica9976 6 лет назад

Robert Leitch ... i thought the whole point of an "air cooled" engine was no "water" in the block so how could it have coolant?

@Tiger351 6 лет назад

grim Yeah exactly, no water jackets, therefore no coolant, therefore no noise absorption by liquid inside the block/head(s). Most "air cooled" engines for cars/trucks/aircraft are really oil cooled engines anyway, the exception being small 2 stroke engines (motorbikes/garden equipment/industrial engines) which run on pre-mixed oil/fuel blend or are oil injected (ie no sump/oil pump).

@nobodyheretoexplainthejoke6183 6 лет назад

the prius engine should've been a fail

@imnotafurryiswear6391 6 лет назад

Lmao

@GunsNBudder 6 лет назад

Dude, your English is getting really, really good.

@dangfinesausage3045 6 лет назад

Creator, props to you for making the first one the thumbnail

@P4WL0S 6 лет назад

Souhlasim s rotary názorem! Škoda toho.

@BalintStefan99 6 лет назад

Where is the glorious VR6 engine?

@redstonemeister 6 лет назад

Emanuel TheGamer The idea of the vr layout still lives in form of the Bentley W12 and the Bugatti W16. Those engines are essentialy made of two VR6 (VR8 for the Bugatti)

@NatePrikkel 6 лет назад

The vr6 is still available in the New Tiguan and the New Atlas as a factory option. The vr is not, and never has been a failed platform.

@BalintStefan99 6 лет назад

Nate Prikkel thats not true

@BalintStefan99 6 лет назад

redstonemeister thats also not true because its other thing

@OhMyKMPR 6 лет назад

Emanuel TheGamer www.vw.com/models/atlas/section/performance/ Now tell us again how there's no VR6 in VW's current lineup.

@fernando-sl7qm 6 лет назад

That Honda motorcycle the sweetest sounding highest revving beast 😍😍

@MrThewildrider 6 лет назад

That honda bike sounded so amazing

@keithwalker1577 6 лет назад

This guy has no idea what he is talking about, none of those were failures, they were just replaced by something better or improved to actually work

@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 года назад

Agreed and I consider the Volkswagen Beetle the most successful care ever made along with the Model T and A~!!

@Uriaah 3 года назад

That's the same thing

@TheLpd1 6 лет назад

Why are air-cooled engines louder?

@timbanicevich5565 6 лет назад

TheLpd1 There is no water jacket to absorb the sound of combustion whilst still in the cylinder. Air cooled engines also need larger tolerances between mating parts because of the greater temperature range the engine operates under. Hope this helps!

@TheLpd1 6 лет назад

Yeah I was imagine something like this. Maybe that's why they sound more "crude" too.

@TheLpd1 6 лет назад

Tim Banicevich thanks

@banggegep4408 6 лет назад

Rick Delair omg i just realized the point of those "rubbers" on my bike after reading your comment. thanks bro

@banggegep4408 6 лет назад

Rick Delair i'm now in my 20s. let's see if i will be able to tell someone about this rubber in 20 years or so hahaha

@1mariomaniac 4 года назад

That Honda engine sounds incredible!

@mpetersen6 4 года назад

But the rotary just sounds so freaking glorious 👍👍

@American-Motors-Corporation 6 лет назад

Lol no no the 8 6 4 was unreliable!!

@johnp1277 6 лет назад

true..the software it had did it no favors...it ran terrible after a while, and often would not run right after cylinder deactivation... it never should have been put on the market...not until technology finally caught up to the idea of engines that can run on less cylinders when needing to save fuel.

@JV-io3nn 6 лет назад

Matthew Henry One of my first cars was a Cadillac with cylinder deactivation. It worked pretty well for being almost 20 years old when I got it, but it was really slow to activate and deactivate. Many manufacturers are using that technology now and it works really well.

@ragimundvonwallat8961 6 лет назад

it was reliable in the sense that it was always broken...and when i say always its not an expression i really mean it