8 Passengers Takes Christmas Away From Kids | Doubles Down On It | Parenting Gone Wrong 

You are a great mom ❤️

You brought tears to my eyes. My parents were like you and I am so grateful 💜

Great idea to write them a book!

I dont even know you but I'm so proud of you. Your kids will grow up to know how much their Mom loves them. Working at everything to provide. Well done 💖

Trust me when your kids grow up they will always remember those moments. My dad would always try and give us at least one gift even if money was tight. I am an adult now and I still am so grateful for my dad who provided Christmas spirit even when we lived paycheck to paycheck.

What great idea we can do as it doesn't necessarily need be Xmas to give. Thank you 🙏

Great idea, they didn’t bc they are gross and Ill

Because that involves good parenting

This would have been PERFECT for children who are acting "selfishly" (their words, not mine). You teach children that there are other people less fortunate than them. This will teach empathy, and that the world doesn't revolve around them.

That’s such a great idea! I could never take Christmas away from my kids…. Even when they may deserve it🥴

I have a few memories like that... think of those moments as the rifts of trauma.. they are cracks in the psyche that should have NEVER EFFING HAPPENED

I'm so sorry. No child deserves that.

I’m very sorry 😞

Im so very sorry. No child deserves that. 🥺

@Jl Gavetti... My grandparents saved me, I probably wouldn't have survived my parents had it not been for them. In return I took care of them, because they deserved it. My grandfather passed away 1 month after I returned from my honeymoon, so we moved in to help my grandmother. It was the best thing I could have done, my son and my Mama had the most amazing bond! She suffered congestive heart failure and my little son would choose to help me wrap her swollen legs, take care of her and play in her room when she couldn't make it down the stairs any longer. I made sure she was cared for and safe and knew she was loved until the end. I'm so glad that you were happy and safe with your grandparents 🤗

Yes! It says a lot that they are having so much trouble with all of their kids. These parents likely never admit when wrong. If they are having so much trouble maybe they need to reflect on themselves and their parenting. You will get more from your children with love, kindness, and understanding than you will get from harsh punishment every time they do something wrong. It will also teach your kids to lie to you and never tell you anything.

Selfish behavior? Gosh, I wonder who they learned that from...

AlexD123 absolutely! At 8 and 10, children are looking to the adult models in their lives for moral influence, right/wrong and so forth.

Totally agree with you fellow Kentucky chick!

They are abusive, that's the bottom line.

Sherri seems to be their favorite

Another Kentucky chick here that totally agrees with you. Ruby and Kevin say their kids need lessons in humility and empathy, but they don’t empathize with their kids. Barely hiding a smile as you take glee in punishing your children for small infractions is the opposite of being humble. It’s borderline sadistic, if you ask me

Even her own family see’s the issue, her own sisters are liking comments that are concerned about the kid’s mental health and her wrong parenting & calling out this cult like therapy thing they are part of

Great point! Why did they have to publish a video admitting that they were taking Christmas away from their two youngest children?! She’s lucky she hasn’t been investigated by Child Protection Services AGAIN! Unbelievable.

great point

Agreed and I think too, people are realizing that trauma isn’t just violence, abuse, etc. it can be religious manipulation, selfish/narcissistic behavior in parents, not having enough love/attention, etc. I think older parents think trauma is just extreme forms.

@@ashleyyyy25 Absolutely! I’m diagnosed PTSD from having a narcissist as a mom and dad, and also because my sister and I were deprived of love and emotional support growing up. I’m 25 and I’ve never heard my parents say I love you. Ruby’s abusive behavior hits home for me

I am sorry, I am working through the exact same thing. I am 37 and my childhood still affects my daily life. I now have six kids and put all of my energy into being a good mom. (Which is ironic…my mom was just talking about me to family members saying that I’m too wrapped up in my children and husband). I feel so bad for ruby’s kids because I have a very good idea of what they’re going to deal with as they continue to grow up.

I for one support a tell all book.

Agreed. Emotional abuse. Sad. Evil.

EXACTLY! Bingo. Check their past christmases, it's all about expensive gifts.

Yeah, No. Christmas or in my house, Chanukah (Hanukah) comes with gifts. Not because, I love the idea. It's because, everyone in kids' class are recieving gifts in honor of the holiday from their grandparents and my children don't, for whatever reason. So, my husband and I give them a budget of about $25-$30 to make up for that.

8 bastards

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@@Mama_Bear524 I was pretty little back then so I'm not sure I appreciated it fully, but in hindsight it's a memory that's stuck with me. I think it's why I still love Christmas so much.

@@littlekitsune1 that act of kindness became a core memory for you, and that’s amazing 💛

Well said 👏

Totally!!

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I was going to say same thing! A young adult is a new adult an adult starts at 18 if you're in your 20s you're a young adult. A 13 year old is barely a teenager. A 10 year old is a child. Period.

This. They've just created the thing they said their kids already were.

It is like yelling at a child "don't hit." Then hitting them as "punishment".

@@haliechristiansen yes, exactly!

Sadistic!!! I hope Ruby knows we see through her

Everything that I've Devin about these parents, especially Ruby, they seem to really enjoy when their children are in pain or suffering emotionally or physically. I saw a compilation of 6 PRISONERS, Ruby wss vlogging and the youngest girl got was fishing and hooked her finger! That baby was sitting in the stroller screaming bloody murder and Ruby kept vlogging while explaining what happened instead of comforting and getting the fishing hook out of her daughter's finger! She looked to be about 4.years old.

😢😢😢Poor little Eve😢😢😢​@@valtoton2982

GREAT QUESTION!!!!👍

I honestly doubt they will. They are very self righteous and cannot see the wrong they are doing

No but I’m sure they will pray for the kids therapy

I doubt it. I recently saw a clip of ruby saying that anxiety is a choice 🤡

@@laurelbailey1080 She what? Is she going to tell that to the face of a firefighter with PTSD? Oh... wait... she probably would make an exeption because that would make her look bad.

She believes she is god

Totally agree. I believe they’re completely against this Jodi lady // Conexxions thing. Bad move Ruby, bad move. Your family has tried to tell you to stay away from Jodi, but obviously you haven’t listened! So so sad that you are ostracized from your family now… I could not imagine not having my family in my life.

Solidarity sister 👊🏼. I have a 15 yr old daughter too. It’s a tough stage of life. I have to remind myself that I’m the one she trusts to dump on, knowing I’ll never stop loving her. Still, it’s so hard.

I have a 15 yr old complete angel, 13 yr complete angel and a 16 yr old, all girls. Four more children also, 7 total. 16 yr is giving me a really hard time often, but I sure as hell made sure, that all my 7 children got an equal Christmas. Taking Christmas from a child is pure shit. So, I agree with you 100%

I hoe the kids get away from this two toxic people Ruby and Kevin!!!

“we renovated the backyard for when we have a bunch of little ones *lip smack* a bunch of grandkids and family in the future” they’re leaving and never coming back ruby 🤠

To be fair, that's normal in American homes given the culture of family doesn't exist.

probably won't be happening now, as Ruby and Jodi being arrested as of Friday or Thursday Aug 31- sep 1, 23

I think it's part that and also a big part that they expect perfection from their sweet little Mormon kids. They are what give Mormons a bad name. It's a shame really.....I never expected perfect because *I* am not a perfect person....

That’s so true.

How can you see the Julie liked comments?

Ruby Franke 1 review a year ago Jodi's one on one calls and the group class have been life changing for our family. Years of false beliefs were surfaced in weeks, what years of therapy failed to do. I will say, anyone who believes Jodi's "tactics" are questionable are simply not ready to take responsibility for their choices. Her "tactics" are invitations to look at our honesty, responsibility and humility in ALL our choices Ruby and this is beausBeau G 3 reviews a year ago Critical: Communication, Professionalism I am very concerned that what I've shared gets gossiped about among others. I've scheduled an appointment that was cancelled without informing me. Jodi ignores my requests for a receipt of services

@@Gohappygirl On the Connexions instagram under that woman's video and Kevin's comments that disagree with what they did Julie is liking those comments about how sad it is.

@@wyominggirl14 I'm glad julie has the balls. I'd be furious if my neice and nephew was treated that way.

@@wyominggirl14 how can you tell Julie is liking them?

Or turning out like the Menendez brothers!! Lights out mommy and daddy!!!

I am hoping they will do like my brother and sister and myself did. My mom turned us against each other for years, but now we have banned together and we talk to each other all the time about how screwed up our childhood was and we lean on each other. That’s what I’m hoping for..these kids will use each other for support once they grow into adults. So heartbreaking what’s happening to them.

All her bad reviews seem like she chooses sides and splits families up. She's dangerous. She took ruby's side in family issues it seems by the reviews and now ruby's her buddy so she feeds her narcissistic motives and praises her even when she's wrong.

Also, those who had empathy for the kids who are missing out on Christmas just for being kids are not "empathic"

Both empathic and empathetic are correct and have the same meaning

Some Christian’s believe they got the trademark for morality. I don’t put anything past those cult following idiots.

Well said.

Absolutely. All I was thinking while listening to his clips is how away from love and the roots of love is his behaviour, reasoning and decisions. Kids get things wrong often, but associating good behaviour with gifts and money like they do, was never a way to instil the good feelings of reflecting on your own faults and trying to learn to better your responses and actions.

@@sheilacampos5246 absolutely!

@@sisuguillam5109 Thank you! I am passionate about raising good humans!

My older kids would get mad at us, tell us that we are doing something wrong and share their presents with the little ones! IT's just so sick... children are selfish when they grow up with selfish people around them. Raise them with love, care and respect then no punishment is needet.

Hopefully, the kids...

Completely agree!! When your kids can see that you can have the humility and empathy to apologize to THEM I think it really shows them that we all make mistakes, and we all have to put away our pride and step up and do what's right. It teaches them a very important lesson.

I apologize to my son all the time. It's important to me that he knows that he's valuable and I am human and that he deserves the respet of an apology when I make a mistake.

I love this!

Absolutely... if i make a mistake...i'll apologize.

Yeah this made me 😬😬😬

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Its the fact that he is projecting his bs attitude and rotten nature on the kids. They need to know that children are a product of their parents, push push and push them and they'll just break, they will be so scared to make mistakes they will end up making all the mistakes, fo fucks sake they need to take psychology lessons, or go to therapy and explain their bs behavioir so they get educated just a little. Do you know i saw a video of theirs and her youngest daughter was asked ho she felt that her brother was going to school and she wasnt, and the little girl said she was jealous of her sibling, and ruby said yes thats right, confess and repent and all that, is this lady bat shit stupid? You can clearly tell the child has been trained to be this way or get punished, does ruby not know that if a child is denying jealousy they feel the emotion and its a very good thing for them to outwardly say theyre not so that if they verbally deny then they internally deny and jelous lessens by themselves, by making her confess orurging her to feel this way, she will feel resentment to her brother and sandess for herself. Ffs its like they force them to be a way then they punish them for being that way, fucking assholes.

The Norman church is a messed up life full of plot holes and twists trust me I grew up in it and it’s a horrid church which made me lose my spiritual me. Thankfully I’m back now but it took a while. My parents always apologise for how they treated us

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Hahahaa

Exactly! Christmas is literally about the undeserved gift of Jesus. Only giving gifts to the people who deserve them or earn them is the exact opposite of the meaning of Christmas.

@@meganp8768 I think there’s a lot about this situation that’s not Christian behavior

They definitely aren’t practicing what Christmas and Jesus is all about

@@meganp8768 exactly

My grandmother grew up during the great depression- she would never wish to return to that period of time. Living in poverty is dire - it's insulting for him to discuss the subject from the comfort of their great privilege. These 2 make me so 😠 😡

I bet he tells poor people to just budget better and get a better job

The guy that the counselor got kicked out of school is now back at BYU (if I am reading into that correctly). Awkward considering Kevin works there

Yes!!!!! These people need to be exposed.

BYU is a huge part of the cult. They teach this sh*t.

BYU won't care. They care more about the young students sinning by intermingling with the opposite gender and *gasp* kissing.

@@haliechristiansen they will care if it starts affecting their reputation.

Turning siblings against each other by playing favorites is actually a common abuse tactic in households.

@@khaIid624 mental and emotional abuse are abuse too. Neglect as well

@@khaIid624 Explain why you think it's not, then, instead of a drive-by passive aggressive statement.

@@khaIid624 No because the rest of their family also wouldn’t celebrate Christmas. That’s completely different to sitting and watching your parents and siblings open presents on Christmas morning while you have nothing!

@@khaIid624 Okay, well since you bothered to leave an inciting comment and won't back it up, I'm just gonna assume you have no answer and just wanted to annoy people.

Growing up in it and coming out the other end you realise why you’re so messed up. It’s a horrid church full of horrid selfish narcissistic people

@@Wildernessadventuresoz they really feel special that they know the "truth" and they think they'll be Gods

This family is a bad example of the LDS church. The LDS church does not encourage this type of parenting at all…this couple is just on a power trip

I left the mormon church when I was 17. My mother has no empathy for anyone. The mormon church robbed me of a happy family

You might want to look into what fundamentalist Mormons do. Marrying GIRLS (13, 14) to adult men in their 40s. Look up Warren Jeffs, guy could have been cell mates with Jeffrey Epstein

And they give other people parenting advice….make that make sense lol

@@dogmom7712 The parents are reaping what they have sown.

Omg nothing he said made any sense and he was all over the place! I don't think he even knew what he was trying to say. He just knew he wasn't going to take any blame for anything.

Imaginary gatekeeping in at least two cases. First: oh you see, the world equals consumerism with love and Christmas, we don’t do that. We are alienating the two from their siblings and call our punishment love. The second one: Poor families live in a Dickensen Novel and eat oatmeal at Christmas. And do they not love their children if they can’t afford any presents? Of course no one would ever confuse the lack of gifts with the lack of love. And again, he says alienating two of his children is the same as if an entire family can’t afford gifts. There is nothing wrong about by celebrating Christmas without gifts and make it a family event. But what they doing is, again, alienating two of their kids by making them the only one not receiving gifts, making the other kids feel shit about for getting gifts and maybe even play their children against each other. They are talking all over the place to distract viewers from what they’re really doing. Neither Kevin, nor Ruby, nor Judy want to be understood. They don’t want pushbacks and instead facing and reflecting their own decision and attitudes, they distract. They can’t even keep their reasons straight: We do it out of love; we want them to learn empathy; we want them to know that Christmas isn’t about gifts; we want them to learn responsibilities; they went to far and have to face consequences; their too selfish God Is Gray made a video about the abusive parents excuse „We did it out of love“. I can recommend it.

Congrats so happy for you!!!!

When and where did she say this?

Me too and apparently you were sinning by looking wrong. My parents will never forgive themselves for the damage done caused by the indoctrination into this horrid church

Right!? That's what I was thinking too. He seems drunk or high.