A Very Special Six-Sided Dive | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 14: Discussing Up To C3E64 

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_"I need your potato sack, your stick, and your shitty cart."_ - The Bor'Dornator

I can only imagine it was full on panic and Bor'dor barely covered his tracks before the Hells found him. Making that lightning bolt so much more fraught with anxiety

Hey! You don't know that the farmer was innocent!

His cover story was the origin story of future adventurer.

(no but for real I felt the discomfort through the screen, really am proud of him for pulling through even though he would probably be 10ft underground)

​@@vickilljoy6099What do you mean by 10 feet underground?

@@Saerwen_Celeste I am guessing that Taliesin would prefer to have been hiding underground rather than hosting but thats just a guess.

@@KeshetAylonit pretty much ^

@@Saerwen_Celeste In his own nice cozy coffin, at home

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@@somescottishguy1314 The damaged was doubled, and then x10. Apparently when you shoot a single guy with the cannons of a spaceship, itll turn that dude into a scorchmark on the ground.

​@@TriXJesterIt wasn't just some guy though. It was an android designed to go toe to toe with space ships in combat. A literal war machine that most people would see as practically unkillable. Obviously they aren't but it was still a notable kill.

wouldn't that just one shot pretty much any boss?

@@oldfrendthey were playing using the “Star Wars 5e” system which is like sci-fi D&D5e and includes mechanics for spaceship combat (so exponentially higher HP than most any creature would have)

justice for binky fiasco!

This is an even more apt comparison that usual, because her impression of that Lady Vess paladin had huge Murph energy. Reminded me of Gerard from Neverafter.

@@daisybeam3357 P.S.: Can I get a link to info about Binky Fiasco? That character sounds wild, but I haven't heard about them before!

​@@Drekromancer I am so sorry! Binky Fiasco is a deep cut from NADDPOD's aftershow called Short Rest where Emily is proposing characters for either Campaign 2 or their Tomb of Horrors one shot and is a wild magic sorcerer skeleton that bathes in milk to remain strong which was shot down by Murph for obvious reasons. Glad you mentioned the Murph voices though because that paladin voice also reminded me of the voice he does for Akarot, which is basically their Adam Driver/Kylo Ren impression.

​@@daisybeam3357Lizard Milk Enthusiast Adam Driver

The animal fleeing should have tipped me off I know better. There's so many misses everyone could have seen looking back

Yeah, I felt a little bad for Bor’dor, but after hearing the full scope of his backstory here, it’s like oh, no, fuck that guy. He was straight up evil

The only things immortals fear? Balloons

@@imnotcreative2999 just looked it up its called globophobia (the fear of balloons)

Does that pair well with Coulrophobia?

We needed this Long may the Long Island werewolves last.

He has good reason to fear the balloons. He has seen things.

Emily: Read everyone: NO

Emily is a big goddamn hero!

don't get me wrong i love Emily as a player, but she really doesn't do anything that special, she just seems a lot better because everyone else is not very good at game mechanics and strategy

​​@@TheAciddragon069ost of the time i agree, she just use the game mechanics; however, there are moments where she gets creative with spells. that's said, the "getting creative" ia true for most members of critical role, emily is just more constant.

"we read the book, BRENNAN! and by we I mean Emily"

It was a combination of the two, but for Ashly it made absolute sense to freeze and hesitate in character. Molly then just made a series of bad decisions, all totally in character for him as well

Yeah. He charged into melee with an essentially undamaged boss character while he had something like FOUR hitpoints left and no allied character who could heal. That death was all on him.

@@tite93 I wholeheartedly disagree. She came onto the show knowing that the cast was down 3 players, and she wasn't tied to any backstory- it would have made JUST as much sense for her character to fight HARDER in revenge against Lorenzo, and it was what the cast needed from her. Taliesin is a sweetheart to shield Ashly from the backlash, and she certainly doesn't deserve to get any hate over a *game*, but her character choice wasn't necessary in-game AND it didn't make sense as a teammate to the CR crew. And I'm speaking as someone who wasn't very attached to Mollymauk and absolutely loves Caduceus. Looking at it objectively and completely separate from Molly's death, it wasn't a smart character build.

The hate she gets for an action that ultimately made no difference to the outcome is ridiculous. She didn't not do anything, she just took disadvantage; there's no guarantee she'd have hit otherwise. Molly talked them into setting up an ambush and sending their rogue to try and pick locks and open manacles during combat for absolutely no reason (Hey, I've been hog-tied for who knows how long, I'm sure I'll be happy to help once I can actually move - see me after this fight). If Nott had gotten 1 hit on that Druid with sneak attack, the slow spell wouldn't have been dropped and things may have gone differently. Keg actually tried to talk them out of it. Molly then misused his blood maledict and gambled with death in a situation where he didn't have to (the worst Lorenzo could've done that round would've been to knock him unconscious if he hadn't done it first). But sure it's Ashly/Keg's fault. 🙄

@@angelicalicari8355 Sorry but she absolutely made sense. Her character used to work with Lorenzo, so she knew his temperament, she was basically on the run but had a resolution to kill them all and it was very obviously stated he was sadistic. Her fear of him IS part of her backstory. She had enough to run from the group in the first place. (Also considering later on it was revealed this dude was a fucking Oni, it was no wonder she was absolutely shitting it. Revealed or not, Oni's are scary beings and he probably always had this intense as hell ruthlessness that would scare anyone with morals away) You don't just get over that type of fear, especially considering she was played as a coward. I also feel like you're talking way too mechanically for the people who lean extremely heavily into narrative and the branching twists and turns STORY choices bring. Matt is always saying how he loves when players make choices based on what their characters are going through, and in fact that very crew have done the exact same choice over mechanic plays that left people in uproar (The bowl with Caleb, Keyleth's goldfish/the part where she wanted to keep fighting the undead then immediately switched attention to a tree while undead giants slaughtered the people she wanted to save/Vex's greedy moments/Scanlan literally tossing Percy's gun in acid/Fjord cutting off that guys hand. But you won't mention them, huh?). Did her character muck up? Yes. Because she was fucking terrified of the guy and scrambling understandably with the instinct to run. Often people will make resolutions to do something then when they come face to face with it they have a flight instinct. You don't just snap to shit like that and become this metagaming machine who ignores that stuff, ESPECIALLY if you're working with the CR crew. It's not supposed to be a smart character build. It's a story. Could she have charged in and done something? Probably. But this dude literally ATE CHILDREN so come off it. She didn't fully know his capabilities but if you're working with someone long enough, especially someone like Lorenzo who was ruthless, it's a very honest reaction that I would have preferred over some bullshit "Well, she's in a state of dread seeing him but we'll just pretend that doesn't matter because hit hit, smash smash. Okay your turn Molly." That's extremely boring and unrealistic to the chick who then realised the weight of her decision and offered her own life as a 'lesson' to a man she's terrified of. Long way to say I extremely disagree. This game for the CR crew is a narrative journey as well as mechanics, but they let their characters do those moves. Not their own heads on how to win. If you don't understand or see that then I don't know how you've made it this far watching them.

It also feel like cosmic retribution for Liam throwing Laura under the jenga bus 4 times in a single episode lol

Well of I have to have a cr spoiler I guess this is the better option🙁

The tower falls only for Liam

I believed her too

He got burned by chat trolls before, he's not taking any chances.

I think its funny how he can tell the commenters to "go fuck themselves" and everybody laughs and its fine, but when Aabria does it, people got offended.

he was flipping off twitch chat specifically, and they kinda loved it XD

Raise your hand if you've seen the exact complaints that were called out before? 🖐

​@@Landis963what were they?

@justinlawson1130 I was referring to the ones Utkarsh called out in the video (EDIT: 44:10 in particular).

44:10

That went so gloriously off the rails, and then off the off-rails 🤣

emily's jilted ex husband character in the second round will live rent free in my head

I love how Liam's consequences were completely believed as standard behaviour and led to everyone doing voices/characters completely unaware why it started.

You've never played before I take it. It was beforehand.

@@timd4524 More of a board game than an RPG? I mean there are roles but I never role-played

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Two wizards one book 😂

Torchwood spin off right there.

Time stamp?

Oh yes. Gave a lot of soul power to Delilah

Does this mean Bor'dor will come back as the big bad of the campaign?

@@ESHADOW111 I hope not! But I do like the image of bordor hanging from laundnas tree in her Delilah space

@@lanewright1143 She asked Ash "What have I done?" He replied "Nothing that I have not done" but he was dead wrong; he has never fed a fractal aspect of Vecna nearly all of a divine sorcerer soul power.

100% feels like the reverse of Fjord throwing his sword into the lava

"She was... sent from hell to kill me." -her normal DM Her gameplay was amazing and I hope she makes more cameos/guest appearances. I hope she gets to play a Necromancer one day.

She was totally playing a Siobhan character with aspects of her own brand of chaos and her husband's brand of chaos.

@@deathbykonami5487 Siobhan doesn’t really do gore kink, innuendo, and rebel with a cigarette. Prism is definitely an E.A. brand character.

@@ayven29212 Prism's a scholar character and that is Siobhan's style. What you listed is Emily's personal touches.

@@deathbykonami5487 really? the only siobhan character who's scholarly like that is adaine. misty, apple scrumper, ruby, iga, riva, and rosamund aren't at all

I'm not surprised. Every time I've met a D&D player who's favourite class is Wizard they've turned out to be some kind of dice-rolling savant, and Emily is the pinnacle of that.

The wise know to fear Emily Axford. She has made some of the best DMs in the world sit slack-jawed like chumps as she obliterates them, cackling while she does.

Her D20 reputation of inducing outright fear, panic and ruin in Brennan definitely preceded her arrival. One of the many reasons Matt wanted to bring her abroad. I doubt this is the last we see of Emily.

@@VivaLaDnDLogsas the man said: “Amazing!”

@@uiscepreston7ck I hope you’re right. Mrs Axford is one of my hand-down faves. Also: can you imagine Em and Laura at the table *together??* It would possibly end with them murdering the entire world and then tittering off into the sunset hand-in-hand.

Thank you!!

It just got so suspiciously specific

@@toddalexander5015 that’s what makes it funny

was gonna timestamp it myself. best part of the video.

Oh, I cackled. I would one hundo percent read this high school junior fanfic version of Bell’s Hells with Laudna’s shitty fry cook summer while Imogen is having a blast in Spain.

She really is enamored with the show, it's so great to see her fangirling over the characters and plot details. Hope to see more of her guest appearances in the future and on EXU!

When I first started watching EXU she was playing a type of character that I thought I was going to get annoyed at, but every episode she grew on me instead. She's become my favorite guest in just the two characters.

Except she isn't because if she was she'd know something about the game. Which she clearly doesn't. She is the WORST.

And in the game

The Paladin of Vesh idea would have been hilarious as well.

I really hope they have Emily guest again, either in a one shot or main campaign. Or that she gets to use some of these ideas later in a different campaign

Liam looked so genuinely moved to get the recognition, that validation must have felt incredible. I'm sure his friends are giving that feedback for Orym off-screen, but I don't think we've seen it on-screen. Compliments are directed toward how he's bringing to light how cool martial combat descriptions can be but it seems like have otherwise been limited to, "Orym is a good guy". Looked like he felt seen here, and that's cool. Good call-out.

I mean shit happens, I’d say he held onto it for pretty long. Plus I don’t think he lost his heart either

​​@@jjcritter99h for sure, I agree, I wouldn't even call it "shit happens" it's a pretty good story! I just thought it was funny how Oryms character development along with the story went of in that direction

@@thevisualkiwi I totally agree. I wonder if we’re about to take down ludinus and all of the Ruidus stuff what he’s going to be like after. It really interesting to see how it’s all going to unfold

Honestly, I think him mentioning that in the last 4SD was the perfect timing, because then we immediately got to see that starting to fall away and the consequences thereof.

The "This is war" moment was both beautiful and devastating

I am very confident that one of them would show up at some point. Still haven't use to the fact that Emily is in CR. I am a fan of her other stuff as well, so it was like a dream come true.

i do hope they find a group of friends to play with on a regular basis.

Imaging is Emily and Aimee made characters with a joint back story

​@@TheRioghbhardan Someone needed to say it. He makes me wonder how much of this character was collaboration as opposed to direction. He did however play this critical role very well.

Aimee and Utkarsh are B-List celebs, I really doubt they have the time.

Yeah, it just works better. Especially when they have a lot of stuff to talk about, like in this episode

Yeah the extra people helped but also Tal did a great job by not being so rigid about sticking to a script or structure. Him keeping it conversational was huge.

Absolutely, this was my favourite episode so far because they actually talked about the things they found interesting!

This was literally just an extended therapy session set up around the idea of D&D and I am so here for it.

@@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie If you can’t see the tonal difference between this and the others besides the runtime then I don’t know what to tell you. Roll higher on insight perhaps.

They didn't kill Spurt though the fire giants ( I think) did

"11 DAYS!"

@@veronicacarter2376 yeah he wasn't killed by the cast. He did die within 10 minutes, but by NPCs. I think the closest character that nearly killed by the cast was Chris Hardwick's character. He was still killed off camera there, but he did get nearly killed by the cast if I remember correctly.

Matt killed Spurt, this is the first PvP death

What do you mean Spurt wasn't killed, kobolds only live 11 days

I agree. 4-Sided Dive has never really gotten as deep or poignant as I would like. This episode was the first one that really had the energy I've been looking for. I think they need to hire a permanent host who's not a part of their current staff. Nothing wrong with their current crew (or Danni in particular), I just think they would benefit from bringing in someone who's not as involved in the campaign as they are who can help them talk about it and ask questions on the spot that they may not have thought of themselves. I think what made the difference was having three guests who were really interested in hearing about the things they didn't know. As opposed to the cast and Danni who I think are just a little too close to everything to talk about their characters and the campaign in a way that feels fresh without having someone else guide them.

Hats off to Taliesin for that. He guided only when he needed to, otherwise just let it flow. I think the questions really helped, they were very poignant and all seemed to start a good discussion.

I think this episode had so much insight, because they could talk about it? like not spoiling anything, because the guests characters would not continue.

I'm really hoping they read our comments and pull the curtain back a lot more like this going forward. I love getting the insight into some of the thought processes and if this type of conversation keeps up, I really hope Matt appears in another episode sooner than later, though considering how close they are to climbing the Ruby Road to Ruidus, I can understand why he might be less inclined to appear.

This really had wrap-up energy

I also want Sam Riegel to guest on Dimension 20, when Emily is playing as well. :D

More people = More fun

They are trying really hard to avoid each others space - must be a real thing for actors, you spend so much time with each other.

That neckbeard voice she used for them was hilarious

she's just gotta come back ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It’s called maturing, some people just make it look good, also probably helps Taliesin is an Eldritch being and we know he o siphoning energy off of the others.

​@anufoalan this is why they always bring new guests so he slowly siphons a bit of everyone

The same goes for Liam.

if you think tal is attractive you should get your eyes checked.

little refreshing slurps of life

1:51

Your goal is a worthy one. :)

Working on it

🎶Caleb started the fire, It was always burning, since Exandria’s been turning Caleb started the fire No, he didn’t mean to light it, but his parents died.🎶

Took some inspiration from ChatGPT, but also put in a lot of work to make it fit the meter, have more enjoyable lines and have some sort of narrative order: (Verse 1) Vox Machina, mighty crew, fight through dangers they pursue, Vax'ildan, rogue and key, with Scanlan singing bawdily. Grog the Goliath, strong and wild, Keyleth's magic, nature's child, Percy's guns, Vex'ahlia's bow, in Tal'Dorei, they steal the show. (Chorus) They didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning. They didn't start the fire, no they didn't light it but they tried to fight it. (Verse 2) Taryon, wealth and wit, with Doty as his trusted script, Pike's healing grace, a guiding light, while Trinket roams the woods at night. Kashaw Vesh, a cleric's might, Zahra's warlock spells ignite, Lady Kima, stout and bold, Alluras guidance a stronghold. (Chorus) They didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning. They didn't start the fire, no they didn't light it but they tried to fight it. (Bridge) Vecna's rise, a dark pursuit, the Chroma Conclave's wrath took root, Raishan's schemes, deceptions blend, betrayals shape their journey's end. Grog's knighthood, Scanlan's hand, Vax's sacrifice in the end, A tale of heroes, eminent, across the realm, their legends stand. (Verse 3) Mighty Nein, a brand new start, led by Caleb's broken heart, Nott the Brave, slick and sly, Jester's pranks, from laugh you'll cry. Yasha's rage, a storm unchained, Fjord's secrets in the deep untamed, Beau's fists, precision hits, Caduceus guides with nature's wits. (Chorus) They didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning. They didn't start the fire, no they didn't light it but they tried to fight it. (Verse 4) In the wake of the war's cruel call, the Mighty Nein stood strong and tall. Through battles fierce and dire straits, they faced the darkness and their fates. In Aeor's depth, the ancient strife, lurking shadows from eons' life. Sights of ruin, time's bitter cost, the Nein's resolve would not be lost. (Final Verse) We didn't start the fire. Is it thursday yet? We eagerly await. Don't forget to love each other. You can share the love, it is never to late. (Outro) Vox Machina's quest began with heroes strong, in a wondrous land From Vasselheim to Whitestone grand, facing foes hand in hand Mighty Nein, a tale unfolds, bonds forged in trials never fold. Through triumph, loss, hope and desire, this family will never tire. In the world of fantasy, their tales unfold eternally, That group of friends, the epic band, crafting stories hand in hand. Critical Role, their legacy, from Mercer's mind to destiny Their journeys shaped, eternally, a tolerant community.

probably because she wanted to.

Probably because Delilah hasn't done anything yet, just a heartbeat. If Delilah starts talking to Laudna, and she gives Laudna more power or something, Laudna will probably take another Warlock level

Lack of spell slots?

It was probably more due to power difference reasons than anything else. Laudna didn't have access to 4th level spells prior to 7 in sorcerer. She may choose to get more Warlock levels after that, she gets an extra invocation on lvl 5 and short rest 3rd level slots. It's a viable build

@@bludfyre Agreed, At this point D is just a...suggestion, an intrusive thought/feeling in the back of Laudna's mind. Once she makes herself actually known and does something to help/hinder Laudna, Marisha may head toward Warlock again.

Utkarsh says he's a newer player but he has played with Matt before (Force Grey, oh 5 or 6 years ago) and the man picks up on a lot he doesn't admit. I was holding out hope he was a reincarnated/awakened border collie (and love he mentioned it here) but his short character arc really drives home that some of what BH is fighting is just people who for whatever reason think the gods have turned their backs on them...and like any other cult, they've found a place where they feel welcomed, and recognized, and cared for.

god i love that movie

@@morgan9660 Scorcese's peak, no doubt.

He's precious! We must protect him at all cost from Twitch Trolls. LOL

And a fair amount of in-the-dome Adventuring Parties as well. Has 4-sided Dive ever resulted in chemical warfare as the cast played Spin the Axe Body Spray?

@@bushpusherr it's not their fault, nobody can meet the chaos level of Beardsley

Bon mots and bahn mis for days

​@@Dimloepdon't forget bonemoats

It's a right of passage that only a few players on CR have done. Travis did it in Search for Grog playing Bertrand and Grog and Sam in Campaign 1 Terry and Scandland interacted directly

They have to come back right? Especially after the scry earlier. And something tells me that Aimee might not get to play Opal anymore...

Now I have to rewatch the betrayal episode...