Abandoned Backhoe Brake Repair Case 580c Part 6 

I haven’t seen to many of your videos but you got to be a heavy duty mechanic of some kind, you know a lot about machinery. I admire your courage and sense of humour. Great watching you mike. Andy from Canada

A old timer taught me to free up stuff like that use candle wax like tea light candle wax dented don’t matter just make sure it’s white paraffin wax or get the wax at the grocery store that’s called gulf wax around the canning stuff but heat up your part like you did and heat the pivot pin and rub that wax around the pin joint on the end and where ever you think you can beat get it in the joint as the wax cools it gets sucked in and stays verse the spray lube burning off or running off I wouldn’t believe the wax trick I watched him do it several dozen times as I worked along with him in warehouse maintenance and it worked every time he actually carried tealights stacked nut to but after he took the wicks out and them out of the metal and he wrapped them with black tape stacks of 10 you could break it out and use it or if you could get the “chapstick” roll in there to it even better but it worked like a charm

great job. Looking forward to your next one. Keep them coming.

I owned a 580 like yours. It was a very good machine. Every brand of backhoe has their quirks. I also liked a Michigan 700 I had. The 580 Case was my favorite. Your lucky if all the pins and bushings are tight. I had to replace them all including the swing Main pin bushing on the Michigan. What you're doing is very worthwhile. You're saving big bucks over buying a new machine. keep up the videos.

I really like watching you work on the abandoned equipment

Allan wrench!!! Thank you. I know this is 4 years old and all, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out why that diff cover wouldn't come off on mine.

Good work sir! Thank you for posting

Great video! Never seen brakes on a backhoe before! It had to have been alarming when all that water started pouring out! I certainly was!!

Breaks is BRAKES. You are good as a mechanic and i did the same jobs as you when I was a Heavy Equipment Mechanic

When you welded a nut on to extract that bolt, that was the shit, youre my hero! Never saw that done

It is so much better with out the music If I want music I’ll play what I want to hear in the background. People are not watching this for the music.

Wow most mechanics would run in the opposite direction . LOL Great job ,lots of patience .

Impressive work!!

I am really enjoying this series. It has been great following along. It has been really interesting and entertaining. I liked when you said when the water comes out it is torqued enough. LOL

You are a SAINT , I would of given up on that backhoe after a week,but credit where credits due You have stuck at it, I hope you soon reap the benifits, your will and determination is a credit to YOU, cant wait too see the end result, once again Congrats stick at it never give up,

Doing a good job keeper going.

Mike. Thanks for the video. I needed this and you did a super job. Appreciate it so much!

Great Vid Mike, reminds of my exploits as a kid.

..great repair...good vid..

Not bad. Learned how do that . Thanks for sharing.

This video was very helpful 👏 thank you for sharing

Great work

starting to look good. thanks for sharing..have been following since #1

I think mine has water in it too last time i used for snow storm it was below 20 degrees and it took an hour to warm up before i could shift it froze up . I lost my brakes and just took apart today bands came out in crumbs . thanks for the video i know what to expect .

This is a great how to video on breaks good job

At 11:30 add beeswax while putting on heat. It acts as a penetrating oil but does not burn up like normal oils. When the heat is off the wax that got in as a liquid acts as a lubricant to help free up when working it back and forth.

Most satisfying video you make it look easy

Hard to get to those bolts, but of course you did it! Very nice work on those old rusty breaks!!

I have enjoyed your video's, reminds me of my life.

always weld a flat washer on than the nut..

I wish you would have showed how you R&R the oil seal. If you mix equal parts of ATF, diesel fuel and Acetone you will have the best penetrating fluid in the world! It will loosen bolts, nuts, even siezed engines that have been sitting for 20+ years. Great stuff!!

Awesome video I subscribed!

You look and sound just like Billy Bob Thornton from Tombstone and that's pretty awesome Bud.

Yo - mike. Another fine video (except for the background racket). Thanks.

You almost threw that brush in yer steam cleaner!! 😂

Wow that was a lot of water, did you find out how it got in there, was something open or what. Anyway that’s another job done you are getting there.

I love your videos they are great just one little tip though. When working on a bench like you were set your camera in the floor or somewhere other than the bench so it’s not so shaky other than that... great!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Really great job your learning as you teach us lol . Maybe give her a nice hot bath that way you can see what's going on but still good job thanks for posting

I am currently doing the brakes on my 580c the oil that came out of my trans axle looked moist too. I did some research and found out that there is a breather on top of the main case just behind the shifter and to the left (if you are sitting on top) If the breather becomes submerged at some point or just through years of condensation water will accumulate inside of the casing. I pulled the back cover off and cleaned it out as good as I could, (it was UGLY) made a gasket for it and closed it back up. Getting ready to apply the new "pads" with a riveter and put it all back together in the a.m. I figure that I will run the new oil for a few months and then change it out. That should carry a bunch of the left over residue out with the change.

Get a sanding disc similar to the grinding disc, there are different grits for whatever application. Be careful though they are aggressive.

Great content. Gotta figure out a better mount that's not connected to table you're working on. Keep using the tri-pod or hang it above you.

I have only one word for you Evaporust , try it you won't believe how well it works on removing rust !!!! :-)

You are lucky those brakes are relatively easy to work on, you should try to put brake shoes on an Allis Chalmers WD or WD 45 or D series 1 tractor. You have to pull the axles, and axle assemblies and most likely use a cutting torch to take them out. Not a bad job if you three or four 10 hour days to give to it.

So you did make another video or five. I don't know if farmers in the US are like many UK farmers. They leave their machinery out all winter and then moan bacause it plays up. Soon as it breaks down badly they get another one. Some farmer having hard times buys the wreck and does what you are doing because the one he had has an engine that looks like an exploded diagram. I used to help out for fun (maybe a sack of spuds) as I was into heavy machinery. Now I take one look and think 'so that's progress is it'. It''s 1.39 am - time to watch 5 videos. Thanks.

Mike to let you know I found out to late the shims behind your brakes also shim the krown gear to the pinion gear .Blow both out of mine just pushing dirt .take one or two out .was a old guy that had a dealership told me 😊😊

Gawdawful "music"...and you are still learning with respect to keeping audio levels reasonably constant. Much respect for the content and your patient approach.

Just a thought (and I’m not nitpicking) I don’t think you get even close to actual output torque when you use a extension in between. That’s what I was always told at least. Between the twist of the extension and the doubling effect from multiple connections.

I have a 580ck 1970 like yours. Do you recommend to get the entire kit off Amazon for brakes and replace everything? Also what fluid does it take for the brakes? Should I replace the slave cylinders to like you did. I really appreciate your video series.

next time you have a ruined part you cant get out like the part that the roller bearing role on drill it tap it. Then use the bolt to push it out.

i hope you put anti-cease on all those bolts and plates.

Thanks for them all. Thanks for skipping the music this time.

Thanks for the great video. I will be doing the same work on a 580c this week. Watching someone do the work gives me confidence I can do it also. I do have a question. Does the brake drum have an inside/outside placement? Or can I just slide it back on the shaft without worrying it is flipped wrong?

It was surprising to see all that water come out. I wonder if it was submerged at one time. Wouldn't think just getting rained on would cause that.

Holy crap, that was a lot of water. Didn't look to rusty though, so I'm guessing it was in there for vary long.

Did all of that water come out of that ventrifical brake housing or the Differential?

You might want to double check your brake fluid, they usually call for hydraulic fluid to be used as brake fluid on case backhoes and not "d.o.t. 3 brake fluid" . Seen people use regular brake fluid in those and destroyed the master cylinders

Good video.. editing is key on this video..lol

very interesting! But where did all that water come from? does that not worry you?

25:51 solution impact screwdriver

no gaskets for assembly? or do they recommend rtv sealant?

Where did you put the oil seal? In that plate that went om before the houseing

Have the same machine it's been a work beast. Where did you learn how to fix this thing?

My friend has a CASE 480LL and he has problems when braking,the tractor pulls to one side(right side).We decided to check the brakes on the right side and as soon we took out the deferential lock cover it had oil.The next step we took was to remove the brake cove and it was all full of oil. My question is where that oil is coming from? Any seal behind the brake housing? Is it easy to replace? We are not real mechanics but we have some knowledge about cars but we are dealing with a tractor this time. If anyone can give us some advice or ideas. Thank you guys

hi mike, guess how many days to repair this kind of brakes ya?

literally just bought a 580C yesterday and it has zero brakes at all. Ill be watching this video a couple of times, I m pretty sure.

What’s the funny scary story about the Backhoe you mentioned in the hydraulic cylinder video that you were supposed to tell us in this video?

the noise from your tools and the music came through loud and clear. your voice not so much i had my speaker volume control in my hand while i watched this video. not ragging on you big guy i enjoy your videos. just giving you a heads up on your video audio.

excuse me anyone knows how to change a backhoe brake fluid?

Mike how did you find those brake "drums" & bands on Amazon? Ive been looking to no avail.

Check the manual to see what fluid is supposed to be in the brake system. The wrong fluid will take out the rubber parts in the system.

Toque on 35:12 minutes brake housing is 80-95 pounds

ru going to turn the right rear tire around ? it going to have to be dismount from the wheel

Does anyone here know this answere. I've got a C have have great breaking power on right but weak on left. New shoes, slaves cylinders and master cylinders. New brake lines. Thought was drum assymbly but swapped left and right but no change. Right does the usual grab really hard and left you have to push hard and never grabs but does stop but much weaker and does not grab. Not near the breaking force. Just can't figure out.

A quick safety suggestion my friend. When working under a vehicle, always wear goggles!!! It's much better than going blind.

Don’t break that screw! Lol Also, did you get all the water out?

I'm a disabled vet I have all the time in the world

So , here is an odd observation. My 580C, the brake pedals and cylinders are on the opposite side, with the clutch pedal on the left. Did mine come from Australia or something?

How do you bleed the air out of the lines is there a bleeder screw somewhere

Best penetrating fluid in the world is 50% automatic transmission fluid ATF and acetone 50% better than anything you buying a spray again

OOOOOOO , water cooled brakes. What will they think of next. LOL

29:20 It's probably full of water from you spraying the heck out of it with the high-pressure hose?

Think I would put all those loose wires in a loom so they don't rub on anything...

I wonder how different this is from the brakes on my older 530 Case. Gawd they are awful.

I really like your videos, but once the loader had been transported to your home, I would have pressure-washed and degreased everything before starting any disassembly and repair. It's so much easier to see all of the fasteners on a cleaned and degreased machine, plus I find a clean machine is much easier (and more enjoyable) to work on. Still, good job.

Do you happen to know the part numbers you used for the master and slave cylinders?

And Brakes use trans hydraulic oil . Not Brake fluid

Proper torque when the water comes out... priceless laughed my ass off.. on a serious note , did you replace the diff lock seal ? that's probably where all that oil/water is coming from on the right side brakes...just did mine......

impact driver

How do you like your steam pressure washer? Is it fueled by diesel?

But placing the camera on the work bench picks lots of vibrations! Felt like I was dizzy

How do i get the flathead screw out of the differential cover? is there a special tool?

I'm really starting to be concerned about your mechanic skills and no point while working underneath this machine did you drop anything on your head. Although you did kind of make points when you run the bolt. Great video I've enjoyed it so far keep it up. 👍

THE WATER ISSUE = if the water was in there a long time it would be on the bottom not on the top of the oil ,also looked like fresh water.FYI

I'm glad you made a second video we do kind of the same stuff with if you'd like to check out my channel

sorry i am on longer watching you tube stuff

WHY WAS ALL THE WATER IN THERE IN THE GIRST PLACE AND NITICED YOU DIDNT USE ANY GASKET MATERIAL WHEN PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER, I THINK WATER WILL BE AN ISSUE AGAIN

Well after reading all the armchair referee's remarks I been thinking of shocking you. I think that while working your way and thinking your way through this, How did you keep from losing your cool? I would of had that busted into pieces that could be put in a coffee cup. I just wish I had your patience to think before breaking. I would suggest one of those impact screwdrivers that you hit the end of it and it twists the screw that your taking out.Also when removing a bolt that is flush or just below a bit, weld a thick flat washer on first then the nut that your going to turn it out with can have substantial welding heat put to it and usually you can take it out with plyers since it is too hot to touch by hand. That is how I have my best luck. Now on the peddles that are frozen to the pin or what ever is keeping them together... drill like a one eighth hole in the arm or frozen part and then tap some threads in it big enough to start a grease zerk in it and force some grease in it while hot/warm. The hole going into the part froze can be fairly small so it don't weaken it and the grease zerk part is the only part that may have to go bigger. I have used a needle grease fitting and it worked too. The grease will head to the heated area and come out oil. Where you drained the radiator back there (jokes) a lot of water, I'm a bit worried if it had room to expand and not crack or ruin a shaft or bearing. I would run it easy like for a bit then drain it a bit to check for contamination that could be in it. You may save another piece or part if it doesn't grind it up. Hell of a job and damn fine fix. I would of torched it and had ruined it by the time it took to find that broken bolt

Several of these videos the pictures aren’t that great quality, It’s very difficult to watch when nothing in focus, Just thought you should know,