Adding To Your Filipino Martial Arts | Panantukan Dirty Boxing 

First off, very smooth flow using the various techniques against a common strike. I like it! Second, where did Eric get that jacket, that's fancy?! (leather jacket is nice, JD, but not my thing :-P )

Coming from a JKD background with an emphasis on Panantukan , everything you said makes sense. I trained under Ted Lucaylucay who’s father Lucky, coined the name Panantukan. Nothing is really great as it stands alone and should always be mixed and practiced in a real environment. That being said, gunting is not trained as a knockout technique. Meaning don’t stand there and admire your work. You wouldn’t gunting and stand their waiting for your opponent to feel it or see if it worked, you would keep following up with punches, elbows, takedown, etc until the fight is finished. And yes gunting is more timing based so in a sparring session it’s a lot easier to use after I time my opponents punches. In a real fight you wouldn’t really have that time and probably rely on other techniques to finish. Great video!

I agree to that. And remember that FMA is already a combination of techniques from the very beginning. It's always best to absorb what's useful and eliminate the unnecessary. JKD

The true essence of kali is fluidity. Its never just one system. It evolves and adapt, this is kali.

Finally Filipino Martial Arts is being acknowledged and not some Gurus claiming it as their own.

I'm a Filipino and I'm glad to hear that somebody thinks the same way that I do.

Awesome stuff from a good dude in JD and a great team in the Budo Brothers!

My older brother actually did this to me during our sparring. That was really a skill that acquired by well experienced boxer.

Thank you for demonstrating the "deflect-and-dodge" movement! It enables the defender to implement either a handstrike to the face, body push, or kick to the knee of the attacker. 🙂

remarkably similar to karate. Most fighting styles are surprisingly alike when it comes to real life applications

God, I love the lines of the strikes and defenses in this. You can really see the direct lines of force. Great lesson, great ideas, great blending of foundations. Thank you, brother.

Clean, fluid, direct - that's where the magic is at. You guys nailed it. Thanks.

As an officer Gunting and "destructions" have served me well... you can always strike the face but when adhering to force continuum deltas/use of force rules... its sometimes better to strike limbs than faces. Even legally... effective doesn't always mean legal and Visa versa. It depends on the situation and position you're in (Hell even in sparring a good limb strike can make a helluva difference). I can explain arm bruising to a judge... but a broken jaw is a bit harder to explain. Same reason we carry lethal and less-than-lethal options. Not every situation merits a firearm response in my line of work. Use it all, train it all.

Appreciated!!! i started kali martial arts at the age of seven and i was trained by my parents..

Great instructor, very charismatic, easy to understand, and knowledgeable.

Everytime the guy on the right smiles as the concept is being explained I feel it is very uplifting

Boxing was my base in training, the Jiu-Jitsu. Mixing this FMA with both is very effective. I mean, they throw a jab and you use this flow to easily set up a hip throw or take the back

Your right never get caught up in technique or style adaptation is law of survival..what works is based on individual talents..training and so forth..great work

Well said mate, loved the demonstration too, I've just started training in kali, only been training it two weeks, loving my training, great class of people 🥊🥋🥊🤺🙏🏽

People like you are AWESOME... WHY... because you are learning and speaking my filipino heritage. but not only that, your ( i guess), re-engineering a basic move to be used for praticality. VERY AWESOME... RESPECT. you made me a subscriber. There are so many filipino martial arts. each province may have their own version of self defense fighting. RESPECT!

What’s not to like, awesome action, good audio, plenty of action!

Love the way this guy thinks. Don't become so rooted in one system. Supplement you Martial Arts with other fighting styles. Doing so will help you become all around more efficient.

Just watched ur video on incorporating boxing into FMA. Totally agree including various other martial arts into FMA. It creates a more well rounded n effective martial artist. Keep up the good work n provide more videos, especially STREET FIGHTING techniques. It's more useful n helpful when one is on the street n trying to protect against the bad guys! Thanks

This is my journey exactly at the moment. I started off with FMA specifically Pekiti Tirsia Kali. I add some old-schooled Muay Boran to my arsenal and later on Boxing when I know I need to fight for the Certification Trial. Now I'm teaching Boxing for a living. From what I know, Boxing and Panantukan are related. Suntukan or the art of empty-hand in FMA gave style change to Boxing from Queensbury style to modern boxing. Many of the movement looks similar and it has a reason for it because Modern Boxing comes from the root of Suntukan. Here comes the part where I find my reason to train Boxing especially Technical Boxing. Boxing since the Queensbury era has been all about fighting the unknown. Even after it dubbed the style of Suntukan and evolved into modern boxing style nowadays, it is still trained for the sake of fighting the unknown. This is the part where I find "Dojo" type of martial arts, FMA included, doesn't actually work or it will take several years to develop rhythm and timing to be able to use in a real and unpredictable fight. This is exactly why I turned to Boxing about a year ago because of its root (not much adaptation and assimilation), and it's fight training capability. I love this video. I love what JD said that it's not either or but it's about yes and. I love that. Thank you so much for making this video in an educative manner without the need to bash any arts down. Thank you.

A good message I wish more martial arts instructors passed onto their students, every system has holes and other style can’t fill them

Yes I have. Hit a BJJ brown belt that was preventing everyone at the seminar from working on the panantukan being taught by constantly explaining how BJJ was better. Hit the nerve bundle just right and his whole arm went dead. He actually cried thinking that the dead arm was his new reality. We let him sit on the side watching the seminar till his arm could move. He quietly got up and left.

So true! "Yes and". Well said. Great teacher.

Great job!!! Thanks for respecting our culture🇵🇭

recommend people to spar. get your sparring partner to feed you unanticipated jabs & crosses at full speed. Then you will know which defense/offense moves work or don't. Fully agree with JD, I enjoy seeing the artistic panantukan drills but in application, some sacrifices need to be made to make our moves more efficient and effective. Solid video and I look forward to more JD & Eric talking about panantukan dirty boxing

Even for the footwork, instead of male / female triangle, it can be Tyson / Loma shift to take the side or back which I think is faster sometimes. I agree taking something from both the "East and West" is the best approach.

*Boxing + Ju Jitsu + Taekwondo(especially kicks)...enough arsenal to be an undisputed winner on the streets ever!*

Yep! Broken rhythm and true intention is important. Thanks for posting

My ex Fiancée was from the Philippines. She did Arnis. I began reading up and playing with some FMA guys here in America because of it. I got to where I really fell in love with the Filipino Martial Arts and their culture!.....and with her.

Having worked in security for over 20 years I can say I’ve used the inside destruction a lot of times and have always got a good effect, the outside cross party gunting I’ve used less and I agree you don’t get a huge effect, I’ve also used parry in to elbow destruction and that’s worked extremely well

I love that way you explain the science behind it! EXCELLENT!!! 🥂

sorry ive done the gunting and if youre doing it correctly it hurts like hell and your arm goes numb, more than enough time to follow through to finish the opponent or close the gap. I do stand by you 100% to use boxing, which works, but also you have to change your angle of attack, so instead of throw that jab in return, you can take a small step to the right to become more perpendicular to the opponent to finish him.

FANTASTIC bro! Sharing with my son, the next gen upgrade. He's loving Muay Thai, I can't wait until he incorporates Kali and gets that flash of brilliance on his face that we all do when it flows seamlessly into whatever else we're training. Appreciate you greatly man.🙏

Agree! Also FMA is a very fluid and adjustable art.

Excellent commentary. Slipping to reposition into a good striking position is the best. Tyson was a master of this.

The split entry( the counter after the party/ slip) has been my go to for years. The gunt can work, I'd rather go for a bigger payoff.

No trying to be an ass but you guys realize he looks like an X-Men? Legitimately looks like he stole wolverenes outfit! Thanks for the lesson,good work!

That's what Pacquiao does, it's always effective.

Yes and I appreciated that demonstration slip and strike takes a lot of practice

I like the way u explain the both styles and effectiveness.

Great teaching thanks 👍👍👍

Incredible flow, thanks for uploading this.

There is space for improvisation in FMA, that’s what makes kali fun & effective. Pugay 🗡 mga kapatid! Mag ingat lagi.

Damn, I discovered this channel, late, but better late than never.... You guys earned a new subscriber!!! Awesome and legit stuff!!!

Guntings, at least in my experience, are just opening techniques that should always have a follow-up. However, I do agree that learning boxing’s conventions to be able to break them is a good way to describe panatukan.

Make sense, I agree with that, that's why Bruce Lee said "be water my friend"(be flexible)

Pugay mula sa Pilipinas great vid i like the "yes and..." principle 😊

Very interesting video I got the point of these guys 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻thank you for sharing new subscriber right here 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

Reminds me of my escrima training. I always try to move outside after pass and attack his vital areas in his back.

Nice video, I like the fact of adding to a style, much like Bruce lee: use what is useful for ‘you’ discard the rest. Do not stay in a style. Very good quickness and effective flowing. 💪😎👍🏽

I like your tutorial. I would add that yes you are applying a technique similar to boxing and different from FMA. The technique you are actually teaching is the Pac Soa of Wing Chun. Boxing seperTes the shield abd sword, where Wing Chun apples both at the same time. Adding the slip to the Wing Chun as you did makes it smart boxing. LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO COLLABORATE ON A FEW VIDEOS.

Best advice i heard so far. Thank you

I used to be a black belt in taekwondo, we learned the taekwondo forms, and also kick boxing.

pacman’s kali boxing technique

Very well said...there's really not one technique that works every single time...keep fighting

as a person who came from a muay thai and then boxing background, i certainly agree with the vid. it's different when the attacks are unexpected and simple minimal movements like these can really save you. you just gotta spar different people to find your own comfy style since it depends on your height and weight and mindset. i'm just a small dude on 5'3 (Joe Pesci height) and i'm always on the inside and have to be and I use the thai clinch and some simple throws from Judo that I could improvise to bring a big guy down or just plain leg kick them when i'm closer. boxing is really good for its angles and footwork and reactions from certain haymakers normal people who aren't trained on the street are doing; BIG ADVANTAGE.

The most important is a mindset... to survive.. real combat doesn't need extra movement to look awesome just give it to the movies... real-life combat is how fast to take down the opponent.

The gunting ("scissor") is use to both deflect and break the joints when used with force.

Bravo! Thank you!

Good stuff guys. @2:26 the strike should be a pressure point on the inside of the upper arm under the bicep and above the triceps. This can immobilize the arm. This is also an atemi waza in old school aikido :) ..

Great lesson~!

awesome. Thanks for recognizing FMA or Filipino Martial Arts. But its more interesting to find out how those non schooled or those common Pinoys survive considering the true average height of Pinoys is 4"11 in any fights as he grow ups. In my personal experience movies taught us a lot from Chines movies of Bruce Lee, Meng Fei, etc. Japanese Movies taught us the Samurai from their movies also and the Americans taught Boxing. We love boxing and you can see that in all Filipinos both men and women. Character is the primary weapons of the Pinoys with or those without formal trainings. Our parents taught us to stay away from troubles BUT...the BIG BUT is in any situation that anyone, whoever he is never allow anyone to harm you. And if you sense that you will in danger NEVER ALLOW HIM to do the first strike. The rule is STRIKE FIRST. Yes we all grew up in that culture. Even more interesting is, in any situations or fights that your opponent dominates you NEVER ALLOW YOURSELF LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATLEAST BITE, THROW ATLEAST A PUNCH, KICK, SPIT OF HIS FACE, etc.. The great attributes in us is two rules: 1. SON NEVER GO HOME CRYING, IF YOU GOT INTO A FIGHT, FIGHT ALL THE WAY IF YOU CANNOT AVOID IT AND, 2. COME HOME, IF YOU CAN CRAWL, CRAWL TO COME HOME AND THE ENTIRE VILLAGE- SMALL AND GREATS, RICH AND POOR, OLD AND YOUNGS WILL RIDE IN ONE BUS TO AVENGE YOU RIGHT THERE AND THERE. We call it "resback" which means a quick decision to "go back" with all the resources "res" of the community for a quick justice which normally the starts of a decade "Family Feud." Thus, we are advised to avoid it if possible. The culture of the Filipinos that "we dont want to get even, or lost the opportunity to strike can be seen in the Pinoys of the Billiards, Pools and Snookers in the names of the Great Magician Efren Bata Reyes, Dyanggo Bustamante, Efren Parica, etc. In any situation that sees a thine line that he can hit the ball he will strike it. And if the subject ball is not visible in the frontal strike he will use the angles, sides and corners to find a way to touch and hit the ball. A lesson from our elders thay say "Pagkahaba-haba man daw ng prusisyon, sa simbahan din ang tuloy." {No matter how long the procession, it still ends up in church} and more lessons such as; " Malaking puno, ngunit walang lilim" ( A heavy tree trunk but it has no shade or " he is just tall but you can beat him, go touch his penis )Ang taong nagigipit, sa patalim kumakapit. (A desperate person will grab at a knife.) "Aanhin pa ang damo?, kung patay na ang kabayo" (What good is the grass if the horse is already dead-a lesson that you have to do it now nor never that you can seen in the fights of Senator Manny Pacquiao before he became a born again Christian and we have also a saying he in the Phillippines that all Pinoy fights in Las vegas must end in 4 round knock out or you're out with nothing)...so much to say, but the truth is we grew up mentally trained thus foreigners observed that we can easily adopt any language and learned its pronunciation and intonation. Our women can marry any race adopt other cultures and being loved by the family. Ya...it starts with our minds filled with situational instructions from the elders. I guess its the same things with other races who had generations of atrocities just like the Black African Americans, The Jews, The Sicillians of the Italy, The Vietnamese, etc.

The best video i think in martial arts !!

Awesome skill

the limb destructions can hurt, it just depends on the person. My arm has gone numb are several occasions. Also, as you know, they are based off the knife.

Thats very good man! its what i wear at the moment past 30 years old after boxing and kali..i just mix basically.. training is the best, but unfortunatly to master the fighting and tecniques it requieres really fight, where u dunno your opponent and fear and more emotions comes. I know its illegal to go fighting around randomly xD

I trained with a Kali guy with 15 years experience. He would use a one knuckle strike to inner bicep muscle as his gunting and it would paralyze my arm. He did this often and it worked great. Give it a try a couple of times. It's very effective!

I love the deflection! And bobbing of the head to dodge even if the hands fail. But dude should train that jab form haha

Good teacher...!

Absolutely. Great job showing and demonstrating. Real world fights NEVER go the way that you plan. EVER. Better to get that punch in and move fast. Get in, get out.

Bravo super... Very beautiful

I love my filipino arts Dirty boxing great stuff !!

Boxing is still efficient up to this DAY that's why I ❤ PACMAN as a Filipino

Good Stuff 😎👍🏼 Great Application. !!!

Excellent!

Really good quote at the end, cannot argue with it

Awesome lesson awesome understating and demo 🤙🏽💪🏽

Great work 🥳 Thank you 💜

Really sound advice.

Amazing sir nice move

THIS IS ... SUPER COOL!!!

very good observations. To your first point, I agree the short arm destructions are not very effective even less so from range. I think a common theme here is the difference between flow drill and use. You flow very well by the way, but flow is only for developing reflex, and its half the art. The other half is what you do with you feet. The whole point of the parry and exchange, is that you should be entering on a 45 at the same time. Thus you quarter your enemy , in effect moving behind his shoulder. From that position , your enemy is neutralized and must move before he can attack again, you however are free to hit or attack with whatever technic from whatever art you like. After all my years of study I find the main difference between FMA and other arts is in FMA you are not supposed to stay in front . The magic is in the movement, you enter in position to gain tactical advantage. Add FMA movement to any art and it becomes more effective. A cross is great, thrown from the front, it hits the side of the face, enter after a parry and that cross lands behind the ear,. That is a foul in boxing by the way , but highly effective in the street. explore and play. Thank you for the video.

great video good stuff, but you can hit with the right hand when you parry at 01:59...depending on how ,uch energy he gives you but you slide right across HIS weapon .. matter of fact your fingers are already near his eyes for a sum-gob (eye-jab) or punch.

Excellent and interesting point you mentioned there. About the gunting. You are certainly right if the opponent is wearing a leather jacket, for example. All in all. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Panatukan is more about fighting with a smaller weapon, say a letter opener, or a Pointy small tamaraw horn, Hench application of Gunting. This is more for the flow than it is for main offensive striking because most just go towards regular boxing until a chance for grappling opens.

FMA is speed and accuracy, but as I watched the grand masters or teachers through their teaching I observed the sharpness of the eyes. As if they knew where the enemy/opponent or attackers strike will fall and then counter attack it. The FMA style is always offensive, offensive, offensive...and defensive is the opponents problem. But most of all, FMA is very open to other martial arts and incorporate them with the system so that the offense will become more effective.

Great point.

AWESOME!!

Great vid! Functional and informative.

I agree.. to make it more functionals :) To get in form and out of form.

Awesome! Totally agree👍🏻

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Panuntukan- from root word "suntok" meaning punch. Use "u" not "a". Panuntok means fist fight.

You could still attack after the first parry with the right hand. Simply throw a right backfist immediately after the parry. It's harder and faster than the jab.

Good stuff... Do more . ilove it

The catch and the punch at 4:10 is from kung fu as well