All Cartridges Are The Same? 

Amen to that statement

Many thanks, Joshua.

Well said!

Thanks Jeffery. There is another book in the works.

How far do you normally shoot?

Thanks for listening

You are so welcome

Glad it was helpful!

Doesn't this comparison say that about every caliber shown?

That’s actually very apt. Never really thought about it, but certainly have done it!

Because it's fun.

@@codyoldford1592 agreed

That is more of a bolt-action (aka fudd) thing. I use an AK-47 as my deer rifle. I know lots of people that use AR-15's, and many of those are in not-223/556. When talking about an AR that you use for hunting if you have a different chamber then you specify what it is (6.5G, 450 Bushmaster, etc).

@@JoeZelensky that’s true, guess I was thinking of bolt/lever/pump guns when I said hunting rifles. I’m in Canada and we have a few AR-ish options for hunting but it’s not as common here. Maybe because so many people have one rifle that needs to take care of moose as well as deer and minimum legal caliber is .243 in a lot of provinces so “normal” ARs are out the window anyway

Malibu, a humble, most thankful howdy from me! Betsy and I salute you for your support. Most kind and generous of you. Here's wishing you bullseyes and trophy bucks!

That’s The G.O.A.T! The greatest, most efficient 30 Magnum of all time!

It’s not a problem at all to get over 3000 fps out of 30-06 168 AccuBond loaded with RL22 but that’s with 26 inch barrel, that other 2 inches is the difference maker.

Good observation, Cody, but the ammo boxes aren't "lying" so much as reporting the manufacturers average. One must take into account which barrel was used: length as well as bore and chamber dimensions. Some barrels are just slower than others.

Same as the 7MM Rem Mag, minus a gnat’s eyelash for all practical purposes. Two peas in a pod, essentially. I use both.

Oh, plus what Ron describes in his new 7MM book as the “meanest, baddest, biggest”…. just a bit more of everything above.

I would love to see a definitive study that shows that effect. Many claim a round nose "hits harder" than a spire point, but I'm not buying it IF each bullet is built to expand properly at impact velocity. Simply put, downrange the more aerodynamic bullet retains more energy. Often a lot more. So how could it hit with less impact? Now, if it doesn't expand, sure, but the flattened or mangled noses of most of my recovered bullets indicate the arrival shape (sharply pointed and boat tailed) doesn't remain that shape for more than a fraction of a second. And if the bullet stays inside the carcass, expending all its energy, it's done as much work as a flat point or round nose that also stays inside. I'm open to new info, but so far...

@@RonSpomerOutdoors But why? Let's use some backwards reasoning: If you can punch a good wound through a mammal's vitals (including bones to reach those vitals) with a large projectile, the animal dies. Since energy is merely a formulaic result of velocity and mass, one will always require some kind of velocity and some kind of mass to get the job done. Backing up from your intended mammal, air drag will reduce available wounding capability, depending on what ratio of mass and shape you are running. So we can either focus on increasing hunting skill (stalking, tracking, reading signs, working with environmental factors) to get closer, or we can obsess over the craze of modern munitions and firearms manufacturing marketing, "sexy bullets" and "sexy speed." I know you don't prefer large bore projectiles with moderate velocity (say 2,000 fps or slower), but let's remember that a non-expanding archer's arrow has killed plenty of tough beasts with very minimal speed, minimal trajectory, and minimal overall energy. How? Very high sectional density and momentum. Why would someone choose to use an arrow for a hunt over "sexy bullet shape" and "sexy bullet speed"? Because they enjoy hunting skills, not marketing hype (I say hype in the sense of not denying facts, but instead heavy emphasis on some factors while at the same time denying focus on things that don't necessarily profit munitions and firearms companies). Cartridges that have been doing the job with more "non sexy" profiles and very "non sexy" velocity over the years will often OUT PENETRATE the new hotness, with their old antiquated technology. If that small bore sleek sexy bullet fails to expand, it fails. If it expands violently and blows up, it fails. If the increased blast and recoil from that magnum high-speed gun bother's the shooter, the shot fails. If a big bore bullet with, or without expansion hits the right spot, it's going to penetrate every time and get the job done, without ruining meat, without being sensitive to impact velocity and expansion, without F-35 fighter aerodynamics. Mass, bore, sectional density, blunt shape. All the stuff modern gun-tubers really talk down about. The difference at 300-400 yards between all these BC numbers and velocities really doesn't mean much, unless you're hunting wood chucks in a wind storm. For big game, a hunter should really get closer for ethical shots and you don't need the "new hotness" for such ranges, as it only risks a blowup and lack of penetration because of all the sensitivity to impact speed/expansion ratios. Too much emphasis on bullet flight, not enough on what actually ends the life of a mammal. Tell the brown bear, elk, or white tail they should have read the spec sheet and died sooner, when hit with super-ultra-sleek-magnumitis. There's been cases where a ultra fast magnum rifle with multiple hits couldn't stop a determined grizzly bear, but a slow blunt slug from a big bore revolver quickly brought it down. The spec sheet doesn't favor that.

What gun do you have in 6.5 PRC ?

Try a different powder. I'm getting 2850 with the "6.5 needmoor " 140gr.

No worries about the rain. It actually reduces atmospheric density, so bullets drop less with distance, if you can believe that. A .48 B.C. bullet at 2,800 fps drops .4" more at 0% humidity than at 99% humidity at 600 yards! Less than 1/2" difference at 600 yards. Wind deflection is thus 1/3" less at 99% wet. Ignore the rain.

Not only that it's keeping its higher Velocity energy with lesser drop at 400 yd which means you could probably push it at 4:50 before it drops the same amount of energy as the other two bullets

25-06 is the 6.5 Creedmoor Killer!

Yes you can. Follow the recipes in the handloading manuals. You must be careful if you go too low with powder quantity and type, but with the correct, tried and true recipes you can get a 300 Win Mag. to shoot at less than 1,800 fps.

Yes, speed, but also aerodynamic efficiency. Bullet B.C. makes a big difference, esp. after 300 yards.

It's true, sir. 1000 foot pounds is just as arbitrary pick to encourage hunters to NOT use too light/small/slow bullets that require perfect placement for sure kills. Head shot and heart shot deer hit with a 22 Short are going to expire, but miss either target by a half inch and... Also, fast and more energetic bullets reach farther and drop less, making it easier to hit the important places.

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Thanks for the response I'm a .270, 30-06, and 9.3x64 fan myself. I'm not a long range shooter. When I lived in Indiana I used 12ga rifled slugs with great effect on Whitetails within 100 yards.

I believe they are normally 10:1