Alpine should SELL their F1 team to Andretti. Here's why.

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So I think there's a way of solving Alpine's recent struggles, whilst also futureproofing the team, AND getting Andretti on the grid.
What do you think, this idea got legs?
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@glenrobinson10 10 месяцев назад

Just a little correction - Renault powered the McLaren that beat them in 2019 & 2020 which is rather typical.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Oh yeah, my bad 😅

@Lastname6955 10 месяцев назад

Standard Renault things

@glenrobinson10 10 месяцев назад

@@Lastname6955#JustRenaultThings

@Primus_075 10 месяцев назад

I dont think most people even remembered that 😂😂

@peterfighter 10 месяцев назад

I'd rather to see Andretti as 11th team.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I agree

@lamatakbertemu8197 10 месяцев назад

Agreed

@gold9994 10 месяцев назад

Because it's a risk-free move for andretti Especially teams like Haas and williams. They stayed when the economy isn't good, when the top teams can just spend whatever they want. Also, they can just make new wind tunnel with software etc. (the thing WIlliams is asking for cost car exception). It's not going to happen. Still, Gene haas could just do a JV with Andretti/cadillac: 60 percent for Gene.

@Carbon_88 10 месяцев назад

Agreed

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 10 месяцев назад

Yeah. I am kinda over the idea of yet another buy out tbh.

@gameofender4463 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if Alpine moving to France and becoming a French “National team” like Ferrari might cause more teams to do the same.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I wouldn't be against that tbh. Too much focus around motorsport valley, would love to see the bases be more international.

@chombus2602 10 месяцев назад

That already happened with Prost and didn't work

@olivetommme 10 месяцев назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid , as a frenchman myself, I would love that, but I think that's impossible : mostly because of french taxes, and the fact that a lot of the better engineer are already in england and don't necesserally wants to move ( plus moving an equivalent to enstone in France would be nearly impossible : that would mean moving Viry-Chatillon factory too, a French/english crew... ).

@realdaddydagoth69 10 месяцев назад

renault already did that and failed. then, when they returned, they bought the enstone team because england is the center of f1. there's also ligier and prost, they failed as well. they should sell to someone who cares

@olivetommme 10 месяцев назад

@@realdaddydagoth69 ; that's why I said that's impossible : because it happen before, and it was a complete failure on every aspect ( and don't get me wrong : I'm well placed to know that the french way of running thing on high level is somtimes the worst possible ).

@bonelesswatermelon420 10 месяцев назад

I wonder how Ryan Renaults felt after seeing the team that he just bought a significant stake in implode just a few weeks later.

@gameofender4463 10 месяцев назад

*Reynolds. And probably happy to see the people not doing a good job replaced.

@alfasud10 10 месяцев назад

@gameofender9663 you didn't get the joke

@luuify 10 месяцев назад

@@gameofender4463 jesus how the hell do you miss a joke like that?

@unishot619 10 месяцев назад

@@gameofender4463 daaamn, did it really fly above your head? smh

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

He should have done his homework. This isn't a surprise. 😅

@garythefishable 10 месяцев назад

Yep, Alpine have no ambition. Get somebody in who actually wants to be on the grid and succeed.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I think the ambition is there, but the application is not. 😬

@woutdemaesschalck9209 10 месяцев назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid 'can't get nine women pregnant and hope you have a baby in a month' ~Otmar Szafnauer

@CrAzY__SaM 10 месяцев назад

@@woutdemaesschalck9209 ⁠this just mean over/unrealistic ambition

@outlet4333 10 месяцев назад

Alpine will never be the French Ferrari without their own Enzo at the top.

@gandalf_thegrey 10 месяцев назад

They 100000% don't lack ambition. They lack skill.

@EddieVanAidan 10 месяцев назад

I've definitely read that Martin Brundle was told not to bother learning French when he drove for Ligier, just to stay out of the politics. Also pretty sure that when Alain Prost bought out Ligier, he expressly wished to avoid being labelled the 'all French F1 effort', then on one of the first press days the higher ups specifically went for that angle, it never worked. Historically if you have big corps or in this case, also a government meddling in decisions, it won't work. Renault big wigs need to be willing to be hands off.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Sounds pretty Ferrari to me. 😅

@1greenMitsi 10 месяцев назад

very valid point; going back to viry is repeating mistakes of the past - renault peaked in F1 as engine suppliers in the 90s and as the Enstone outfit 2000s which was basically the Bennetton team with briatore, Pat symonds etc. History shows that when Renault get 'too french', they suck put bluntly

@matiasbiondolillo5217 10 месяцев назад

**any team struggles a bit with management/financial** All of us: Andretti should buy that

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

🧠

@anubiam3004 10 месяцев назад

What I know is, Alpine has some potential to be podium contender from time to time. Alpine is almost never in the bottom 1/3 of the field. For that reason I don't want to mess with them. I'd much prefer Andretti take over Haas, which has never really been competitive or become the 11th team.

@Burnel 10 месяцев назад

As a Frenchman, losing Alpine would be heartbreaking. I understand why people don't like this team. But, I do believe in a project of a French Ferrari in Viry. Kisses from France 😘

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Allez les bleus

@phightinphil25 10 месяцев назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid Allez les blues ! allez les blues !

@ihsanjayadi88 10 месяцев назад

This channel is one of the very few who actually present quality fresh takes instead of presenting obvious stuffs sprinkled with lots of words and graphics, keep it up man!

@daanishrajahussain-fn5bx 10 месяцев назад

As a die-hard Alpine fan (yeah, mock me all you want), I think this is a good idea to preserve the Frechness of the company, something which, despite not being French, has been one of my main vocal point of criticism for the team for quite some time. Also, all this could’ve been avoided if they didn’t suddenly replace Cyril with Rossi before he could even start his tenure. Cyril may have had some problems, but him, along with Budkowski made for a stable, reliable management, albeit controversial.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

A "French Ferrari" will take many many years, and can't be based in Enstone. Simple.

@frankhuurman3955 10 месяцев назад

Cyril was for sure the best/most stable and most recognizable Renault team lead of the past couple of years. I think if one person would have made it a real "proud to be French" team it would have been him. Too bad Ricciardo jumped ship(too soon).

@SyBo27 10 месяцев назад

Too be fair, their recent approach to team principals is definitely something that Ferrari would do aswell 😅

@LordWay 10 месяцев назад

@@SyBo27 We give our ones at least a season usually hahaha

@kirand92gaming 10 месяцев назад

As french alpine young car enthusiast, i have seen a few event involving the biggest internet french celebrity and artist commentator and even f1 driver in f4 races, which has involved france in general into more of f1, alpine sponsoring 2 of the 22 F4 teams, for this 2 season will sponsoring 1 last year, there is a push for f1 in france

@brawlsoccerstars 10 месяцев назад

Tommo back with the W's as usual

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Walpine

@A350XLR 10 месяцев назад

Last renault engine costumer was McLaren

@nathanb286 10 месяцев назад

If Renault do this, I think we all know they will be back by 2030 at the latest because they want to get back into F1 again

@MrNaoboy 10 месяцев назад

Frustrate, Disappoint, over promise and under perform… Best Alpine's resumé ever :D

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

😬

@smaki1997 10 месяцев назад

The Gran Turismo 2 Menu music playing in the background around the 5 minute mark. The nostalgia 💙

@mawile3037 10 месяцев назад

3:43 that was good, you got me lol

@sava-lakicevic 10 месяцев назад

Alpine becoming the French Ferrari was the most misleading headline in the context of current events and results, which I found hilarious. Nevertheless, the French would definitely support the team if they had the prestige of Ferrari (at least closer to it) and competent drivers, like the ones they have right now. Imagine Monaco, or if France gets back on the calendar, the vibes! As for Andretti, I'm very skeptical, not so much of their apparent setbacks, but more because of the resistance and reluctance of other teams.

@AndyKazama2 10 месяцев назад

Andretti using Honda engine (along with Aston) would make a ton of sense since their Indycar team uses Honda. I would love to see this buy out happen, Renault ae in over their heads.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Aye that's a shout for sure.

@thawk6792 10 месяцев назад

Honda has an exclusive deal with Aston Martin and has no intention of supplying another team . Unlike RBR, Aston Martin agreed to help Honda pay for the R & D of the '26 engine ,so they could control who can use Honda engines in F1 , only Aston Martin

@bonelesswatermelon420 10 месяцев назад

@@thawk6792 What if Aston decided that they want Andretti to be their indirect "junior" team, like the relationship between Ferrari and Sauber? Or maybe even an outright direct relationship like RB and Alpha Tauri. This would work for both parties: if Aston can vouch for Andretti to come in and give them a PU, then Andretti agrees (at least in the short term) to develop AMR juniors like Drugovich. Heck, I see Lawrence doing this so he can send Lance somewhere else while the 2nd Aston seat goes to someone actually competitive.

@chrisc475 10 месяцев назад

Ooh, good shout. I like that idea!

@jacobbahr9316 10 месяцев назад

Hey Tommo, since we're in silly season, I'd love to see another F1 Driver Draft video, since I enjoyed your first one. If not now, maybe in the winter break

@pwneddude 10 месяцев назад

But that GT background music doee!! Love it

@kittys8066 10 месяцев назад

As someone who lives 20 minutes from where Andretti is attempting to build their base, I would love for Andretti to solidify a place in F1.

@09juliancarr 10 месяцев назад

Ferrari WAS based in the UK…. Twice. It was called Guildford Technical Office (GTO) based in Shalford. Also, Andretti want to relocate everything to their new HQ in the US. That is why the Sauber deal didn’t happen

@beneddu 10 месяцев назад

Whilst I'd prefer for there to be 11 (actually 12) teams in F1, I'd like to see Red bull sell Alpha Tauri to Andretti. They could then be the Italian-American F1 team with a famous Italian-American name on the car

@Heisenberg_747 10 месяцев назад

Changing from Renault to Alpine to promote commercial Alpine brand and potentially selling to Cadillac 😅

@andrewking_8 10 месяцев назад

Marko needs to sell his Junior f1 team……

@renediem5218 10 месяцев назад

Why would He ? Mercedes basically uses Williams to get theyr drivers from n wouldnt be surprised If they tested some Bits n bobs on Williams Back before it became illegal to sell/Share/copy certain Car parts

@nickmagers1 10 месяцев назад

Never thought I’d hear Tommo call out my hometown, fishers Indiana!

@Hellski 10 месяцев назад

Where can i find the same cap?

@richvelarde2074 10 месяцев назад

Lovin' the Gran Turismo background music, sir.

@guttsu 10 месяцев назад

Can they run a team without a facility? Because like you said they need time to build it, probably more time than Andretti since Renault doesn't have a concrete design as far as I know. So selling Enstone would mean no facility for 3 years? They might get by on 1, but not 3 years. Would definitely be cool to see.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

Given how Haas are able to get by with a design office in Italy, and a satellite base in the UK, I think it's tenable. Main difference is Haas use Dallara to actually build the car. Could Renault gain access to the necessary facilities short term? Maybe.

@minecrafter7541 10 месяцев назад

I really love the Gran Turismo 4 background music😍

@hamza-chaudhry 10 месяцев назад

5:33 McLaren were running Renault engines in 2020

@ciaranobyrne087 10 месяцев назад

Mario just gave an interview to R365 and said that said that while the team is open to any opportunity, most options have been exhausted already. Personally ive got a feeling that Andrettis negotiating tactics may have turned F1 teams off, like with what appears to have happened with Sauber in 2021. He also said they are now expecting a decison in early September, so fingers crossed there are no more delays.

@antonysnook4932 10 месяцев назад

Andretti as a family have been a GM family usually running Fords. Andretti want to be the all American team so GM is best to do that. The only other manufacturer that will work with them is Ferrari because the family's Italian roots.

@renediem5218 10 месяцев назад

Fords allready workin with Red Bull so doubt they,ll be interested in working with a Newbie Team tbh

@isthatrubble 10 месяцев назад

I was honestly imagining them buying alphatauri but this works too

@hoobergaming2995 10 месяцев назад

If not Buggati, or Andretti, Why Not Peugeot? They're a French Team, they sell common cars, and they have made amazing race cars.

@ricknineg 10 месяцев назад

Yea not liking this idea. Buying Alpine would carry over all that bad juju to Andretti. 11th team is the way to go. The other teams just need to suck it up. They’ll make up the money

@gabrieleminoia 10 месяцев назад

Yo Tommo, great video as always, but talking about an eventual selling, what do you think would happen to their academy? Yeah ok it’s probably the worst in terms of promotions (pure facts, they lost Lundgaard and Piastri, and promoted 0 drivers) because of the f1 team’s decisions, but they have the best drivers, and they also support a whole series (FRECA) how do you think they would manage that in case it gets sold? The only option would be shutting it down because I don’t think Andretti would be interested in keeping it going

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I don't see how tied the academy is to Enstone specifically? Maybe it is, but fundamentally I wouldn't foresee that as an issue.

@gabrieleminoia 10 месяцев назад

@@TommoOnRU-vidoh so you think they would keep it and just be Alpine as they are now outside of F1, while becoming Andretti just for F1. Fair point fair point, gotta agree with you on everything then, it could work, I would personally be sad about it because Renault was already my favourite team and seeing it becoming Alpine wasn’t that pleasant since I’ve always also been a fan of Renault sport for road cars as well, but yeah I guess business is business, would be a bit sad to see Alpine going but this move could also maybe give space to some interesting driver transfers, would be cool to see kirkwood in F1 or just having a team promoting drivers that aren’t in F1, such as my beloved Victor Martins

@mattiasgarbi9470 10 месяцев назад

They might merge the Alpine academy with the Andretti one.

@mattiasgarbi9470 10 месяцев назад

@@gabrieleminoiaKirkwood (and Malukas) might have already replaced Colton as the us-maybe-future-go-to driver for F1. If I recall correctly Kyle Kirkwood already won two races this season, last week in Nashville and Long Beach in April.

@KevinHwoarang 10 месяцев назад

I thought Alpha Tauri would be sold to Andretti, would make Daniel happy too, to work with an American team that isn't Haas.

@thebateman761 10 месяцев назад

If I owned haas, I would make the livery blue red white with murican flags everywhere. Seems like a good opportunity to capitalise on yet they don't do it

@MrDissiuk 10 месяцев назад

Something about Haas being a stones throw from a Euro Car Parts, just makes me smile lol

@awkwarddSP 10 месяцев назад

I don’t know if this could work due to CapEx, might not be setting up a whole new factory but look at Williams, Alpine surely would have a similar struggle? There’s a huge chance I’m missing something though.

@DefinitelyNotEmma 10 месяцев назад

Cadillac-Andretti would be a hit

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

🙏

@renediem5218 10 месяцев назад

Not necessarily, Just having a Big Name and what Not to start with doesn't automatically translate into success, Look at the beginnigs of Red Bull or Mercedes they both needed time to rly get Up n running. Look at Lotus/caterham for example... Thats a biggish Name Most ppl have heard of n has achieved stuff in Motorsport in the past but Look how they flopped in F1 and how quick they faded from existance.

@raymondu99 10 месяцев назад

“But you know what would give them even more credit?” God idk why but when I heard you say that I thought you were gonna say “a good website, like from my sponsor…”😂

@noahkoz6873 10 месяцев назад

As an Andretti fan in Indycar, clearly you haven’t seen their performance in it. Outside of Kirkwood’s 2 wins they’ve been a complete mess

@mattiasgarbi9470 10 месяцев назад

...but the FE branch still won the FE title with Jake Dennis. So, Who knows Who would come in the F1 team?

@tthunderr9097 10 месяцев назад

I’ve see. The little village in England where there facility is

@gameofender4463 10 месяцев назад

If Andretti buy the team they’d replace both drivers. Especially Gasly.

@OumuamuaOumuamua 10 месяцев назад

Simply become American

@gameofender4463 10 месяцев назад

@@OumuamuaOumuamua They’d bring in Palou and Herta if they could.

@beanlentil 10 месяцев назад

Ocon can't go Yankee so he gotta beg papa Toto for a seat

@nomar5spaulding 10 месяцев назад

He's not talking about Alpine going away, so there wouldn't be 2 Alpine seats becoming Andretti seats.

@shakesnbake 10 месяцев назад

I wonder what Helmut's username is on the live stream 😂

@Tt34601 10 месяцев назад

This defeats the purpose of having an 11th team. Then we will be stuck with 10 for a while

@Monkie_. 10 месяцев назад

That’s not what the video’s about

@gandalf_thegrey 10 месяцев назад

@@Monkie_. And there is also no suggested "purpose" for an 11th team. Dunno how corporate interests of the FOM and fans not understanding them for the life of them are combining into "That's the plan for the future" tbh

@dustinjohnston2666 10 месяцев назад

I love this idea. As an American fan, getting Andretti on the grid would be huge. I don’t think the other 9 teams would be on board, though.

@FrayedACCL 10 месяцев назад

My only hope is that if Andretti and Caddy come in together, the f1 car starts and sounds like the Cadillac V-LMDh. That thing sounds DEMONIC and I love it.

@elaldo2382 10 месяцев назад

This would be a great win for Andretti, to take on Enstone and all the staff that don't want to relocate would be massive for them. I don't see Alpine winning out of it though. The only thing they have going for them (besides 2 good drivers) is the expertise of Team Enstone, and if a lot of them decide not to move to France then you'd end up with Alpine having to hire lots of new staff, probably with a lot less experience.

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I can imagine a lot of staff who work in F1 currently, and have to live in the UK, would find the prospect of working on the continent near to Paris pretty appealing no?

@elaldo2382 10 месяцев назад

@@TommoOnRU-vid appealing yes, but if they have families then they might not want to move them all across. Maybe not the mechanics that go to races anyway, but factory staff who have their homes in Enstone or nearby will have made lives there and might not want to uproot all that. I'd imagine they'd lose a decent chunk of their staff at least.

@timez9663 10 месяцев назад

Only problem with andretti having enstone as shortterm base is alpine needs to operate from somewhere until viry were to be ready

@ewanspiers7467 10 месяцев назад

Great idea tommo

@benjamincook4796 10 месяцев назад

Can we have a landrover and or Maybach f1 team video

@dustinabigan2776 10 месяцев назад

At this point Andretti-Cadillac might as well buy Alpine and run it properly because seems like Alpine themselves don't want to run it properly anyway. In all seriousness though I think it could work as long as Andretti has the cash to splurge on the existing team. That or they form a partnership with Alpine to form some weird name like Alpine-Andretti-Cadillac F1 team then it becomes something like Andretti running the operations then Alpine buys the naming rights I guess kind of like Alfa Romeo-Sauber.

@kevinjones7870 10 месяцев назад

I would rather see a new team on the grid, I think 10 teams is too small a number, especially when points are given to the top 10 finishes, a little too close to giving out participation trophies. At least when the current points system was introduced we had an influx of new teams which meant there were 24 drivers on the grid so you still had to finish in the top 45% (rough percentage estimate) to earn points which I think is better myself

@Phantom-mg5cg 10 месяцев назад

5:33 McLaren had Renault engines between 2018 and 2020.

@steveb_ 10 месяцев назад

helmut on his way to put tommo as their marketing strategist... next time we see redbull going round squaresplace will be on the sidepot

@Argosh 10 месяцев назад

The biggest obstacle for Alpine is their management...

@allgomesareevil6121 10 месяцев назад

Tommo, great minds think alike. Tommo to take over from Dr Marko?

@Victa727 7 месяцев назад

That's what I've been feeling for the last year and a half. Especially since all the firings this season.

@Jerry-gv1cq 10 месяцев назад

The problem with going full in Viry, is that alpine can't invest a lot in new infrastructure because of the budget cap. We're at 36 millions for 4 years. Compare that to Aston's 500 millions the last couple of years, and you see it's not doable

@TODBOO11 10 месяцев назад

Excellent video

@TheJokerit19 10 месяцев назад

I agree

@kevinpoulton 10 месяцев назад

Would you move the WEC team in with the F1 team if they did the move to France

@Axle0Bullitt019 10 месяцев назад

While I would not be shocked if Andretti does venture the purchase of Alpine, it would be disappointing. Personally I fully believe that there are not enough seats on the grid. This is the main driving force for my call for an 11th team.

@jbaidley 10 месяцев назад

I really hope this doesn't happen, because I think F1 would be better with more teams. Around 12 would be ideal.

@grahamreece519 10 месяцев назад

Didnt watch the video?

@keiming2277 10 месяцев назад

Andretti be like : Why you have to this to me ?

@tobiasz6613 10 месяцев назад

Have you given up on the Hyundai F1 team then?

@McPhilen 10 месяцев назад

The real question is, what will the new Andretti heli-pad be like?

@drrss3221 10 месяцев назад

Tommo that's a massive pipe dream simply because it would require Renault to do something they are unwilling to do ever since they bought this team, spend big money. Best course of action would be for them to cash out and sell the team to Andretti since they clearly don't have a modicum of commitment.

@thesamaffliction1572 10 месяцев назад

I think while Andretti have no engine partner and Renault/alpine only seem to invest in the engine department just sell the team/end stone and sign as engine supplier

@TommoOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

I'd have said the same, but that doesn't align with De Meo's "French Ferrari" pipe dream.

@georgebarker1894 10 месяцев назад

McLaren used Renault engines from 2018 until the end of 2020... where they beat the Renault works team in 2 of those 3 seasons.

@ssigeon 10 месяцев назад

5:31 mclaren ran renault engines as recent as 2020

@FightingForceSoulless 10 месяцев назад

Can I just say, I love the Gran Turismo 2 soundtrack.

@mrzachwright 10 месяцев назад

The French also need a better track that Paul Ricard. Imola and Monza both help fortify the Italian love of F1.

@selder_7 10 месяцев назад

Tell you what though, if I had a choice to work in the factory in England or in France I know where I’d want to go

@jacobl1657 10 месяцев назад

The only problem I see with this plan is the factory being obsolete once Andretti builds up operations in the US. He wants an American team with an American car built in America long term. The only way I see this going through is if they can leverage a deal with GM to use it as a joint base for Motorsport with GM taking using it for sports car and WEC and sharing the space with Andretti in the future

@MrNaoboy 10 месяцев назад

you are totally right !

@souldry 10 месяцев назад

Let’s do it

@hoobergaming2995 10 месяцев назад

I would have loved if Buggati had bought the team, but I know that's probably not likely..... Mainly because they are another Famous French Team.

@gandalf_thegrey 10 месяцев назад

Last year I would have told you: Volkswagen already positions Audi and Porsche for F1, so Bugatti won't do. Today I will say: I don't know how their Croatian owner thinks of spending even more money on the name without having sold a single car.

@hoobergaming2995 10 месяцев назад

@@gandalf_thegrey yeah that's true

@selder_7 10 месяцев назад

Moving the car factory to France and being even more French seems like a step in the wrong direction 👀😂

@selder_7 10 месяцев назад

Would Andretti joining in 2025 have an advantage of being able to just go straight down the Red Bull path with nothing old to adapt or other directions to consider? A difficulty Haas has is they’re reliant on how good Ferrari is and if Ferrari are having to change a lot then it’ll take them even longer to change.

@callumlaird1195 10 месяцев назад

It would still take years for alpine to build the facility in france so they couldn’t really sell Enstone until it’s finished if they still want to race. And on top of all that the budget cap and wind tunnel rules would likely cripple their ability to do that. I do like the concept though

@gandalf_thegrey 10 месяцев назад

Easy workaround: Renault builts a huge ass facitily without any restrictions, perfectly in line with F1s needs and entirely modern and just rents out the building to the F1 team. Similar to what Ferrari and Haas were doing. Only downside is that it's makes the resell value of the F1 team very low since it has just personal, no facilities. You can't punish a subsidiary for what their mother company does, especially since said company isnt even working with FOM. If FOM tries to punish Alpine F1 for what Renault is doing with their spare cash they get sued the shit out of them, because you can't punish someone for rules you didn't write down or are "just meant that way" - they have to be actually written that way, otherwise not binding.

@callumlaird1195 10 месяцев назад

@@gandalf_thegrey I would think that is a great idea but didn’t F1 just outlaw Ferrari from using data from their WEC programme to influence their F1 programme?

@alexanderdill2902 10 месяцев назад

The trouble with a French F1 team is the laws and tax's over there, Prost had this problem when he ran his team, the employees wages were equal to McLaran at the same time but only been a quarter of the size of McLaren. So having a bace in France wouldn't make sense for Renault, more money been spent for less.

@JerryCrow 10 месяцев назад

not the worst take, that is if they're not in the 2 teams being introduced...

@paradoqs8594 10 месяцев назад

I dont understand why RB doest sell its team to Andretti when its pick price?

@mawile3037 10 месяцев назад

I think because Marko said it they won't do it just to spite him lol, we've seen some petty things from them, anything can happen

@AndynatorHD 10 месяцев назад

I think Mclaren had Renault engines unitl 2020

@leoarevalo6786 10 месяцев назад

2018-2020

@Bezza49 10 месяцев назад

Seen this on a few videos. The disrespect towards Alpine 0:01 s quite a disgrace. The Enstone people are fantastic and you can't just tell them to sell to Andretti. This is a team with deep history. I'd like to see Andretti as an 11th team or if they have to take away another team, then make it be AlphaTauri.

@MrAndy76101 10 месяцев назад

I'd like to see an 11th and 12th team however it happens, and I would like to see Andretti as one of them, more than Turbo Petrochemical Human Rights watch Racing

@noahbusker2674 10 месяцев назад

As die hard fan for Renault and all things France, I want this to happen! Never a fan of Renault having these major facilities in the UK.

@psygreg 10 месяцев назад

I think they need to merge the facilities one way or another and go back to the Renault name. Alpine has zero brand recognition and that yellow and black livery was something else

@wilcisco1159 10 месяцев назад

Andretti Renault name sounds good

@74_pelicans 10 месяцев назад

Did you even watch the video

@lukapagura 10 месяцев назад

The problem with this is that we want more teams to compete and Andretti wants their own team to be theirs. They have everything set up in America and a team of people in America