Amiga 500 Mini VS Amiga 600 with GoTek Drive! Game testing

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I test the Amiga 500 Mini against my Amiga 600 fitted with a GoTek Drive. We test game footage side by side, use different display settings on the A500 Mini to get a match with the A600 and much more.
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@TheGebs24 2 года назад

🔥More Amiga content: Playing Amiga Games I’ve never played and RANKING them: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EVhDd06djz4.html Amiga 500 Mini: 10 Point and Click Adventure Games you must add: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GA1rVNexs5k.html Amiga 500 Mini: 10 AGA Amiga Games you need to add TODAY: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4oWiaOk69DU.html Amiga 500 recapped and mouse whitening results: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wW6paGoRy_I.html A500 Mini: 10 More Essential Games you must add: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h6uLW-G9aFQ.html Amiga 500 Mini: How to add DOOM: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WolCMJKEl-w.html Amiga 500 Mini: 10 ESSENTIAL Games: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ofZjpI0utvA.html Add Amiga CD32 Games to your Amiga 500 Mini: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X1phojOWl7s.html Amiga 500 & A590 bundle: will it work?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S5WprwRZw5Y.html A500 Mini Vs Amiga 600 w/GoTek Drive: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3ljkAbtxevs.html Amiga 500 Mini - I tested these games on your recommendations: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xBJ01sod8Ro.html Amiga 500 Mini - I got a PS4 controller working on this thing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHfcsK0R9SQ.html Amiga 500 mini - 68 Games added: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aBT_fji816w.html Amiga 500 Mini Review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l53nrH2-n8c.html Amiga Memories: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PHR3JqwFPiM.html Amiga 600 Bundle PART 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y7DPSXTMp9Y.html Amiga 600 GoTek Project PART 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tP_Fm0z04Wg.html Amiga 600 GoTek Project PART 3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3BfCiuB39Ts.html Amiga CD32 Games you must buy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9nzcI33fv0k.html Amiga CD32 after one week: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w6PG5A30OPs.html Amiga CD32 Team17 Game PART 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h3HFQBykX7Y.html Amiga CD32 Team17 Games PART 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vJlmbnJs1Kc.html

@garethjohnstone8662 2 года назад

Fallen in love with this channel. I have been transported back to the early to mid 90s, some of the best days in my life. The best games, best friends, best days out. Days when I used to spend 2 hr on a bus with mates to go to Manchester, go round the Arndale and games shops (even Games Workshop) get a cheeseburger at McDonalds, walk up to Afflecks Palace and float around there, get back to the bus station, bus back to Rochdale, then on to where I lived just outside, get home with a buddy or go to his house, stick on the Amiga/Megadrive and bust out a full length sesh on SOR2 or Gunstar Heroes, or take turns on Cannon Fodder. I don't know if there are groups of people who get together and basically revert to 1993 and being 11 by playing games and watching 90's videos but I would LOVE to either attend something like that or get it going.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks for this comment. It’s nice to read about your memories. A new Amiga episode also just dropped today 😃😃

@garethjohnstone8662 2 года назад

@@TheGebs24 You can relate, eh!?

@pakrad 2 года назад

Great comparison video, thanks Gemma!

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Salva

@K1NGARTH3R 2 года назад

I'm sure someones said this already but just as an extra bit of info. The Amiga 500 Mini has a 68030 CPU according to SysInfo whilst the A600 is 68000 whilst stock. The Mini has more RAM Slow and Fast and also booting from HDD installed games vs floppy images hence the differences in speed and frame rate. Of course you can upgrade the A600 CPU and RAM with an accelerator.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thank you for the technical info. I knew someone would fill in these bits for me

@glennmk5167 2 года назад

I also think the emulator used is on turbo sitting as saving your own whdload games are hit n miss, plus that's why some older games won't work be better if we had more control sittings

@neilo3476 2 года назад

Great comparisons and info!

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks for watching

@neilfarquhar716 2 года назад

Nice video Gemma! I'm really enjoying your Amiga content 😃👍🏻

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks Neil

@Lorten369 2 года назад

Jumping Jackson and super nibbly was super chill. Miss my Amiga. Am so gonna get this A500 mini. Love your content. Just found it. Subbed for sure.

@Lorten369 Год назад

Got it :)

@marcuseastop2825 2 года назад

I'm definitely lapping up this Amiga content - great work! 😉 Has anyone noticed that some games on the A500 Mini skip past the developer logo's and goes straight to the menu? One that comes to mind is Pinball Dreams which is preloaded on the Mini but I'm sure I've seen others that bypasses all the developer logos/ details.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Yes I’ve noticed this. And thank you for supporting my content

@emilygrae 2 года назад

I just recently found your channel and I love it! We can't get an A500 mini in Canada, as far as I can tell, except for using the US version of Amazon, and they say it's not released until May 31! Argh. I can't wait!

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thank you Emily. You’re going to love the Mini

@shushimhuntinwabbits 2 года назад

Interesting video especially as this is literally what I have. Just bought a mini despite having spent a fortune on an A600 with a gotek.... Sometimes you just can't help yourself... I know you'll understand 😀

@HoldandModify 2 года назад

Curious to why the “flame effect” was absent from the a500 Mini footage?

@mcinnocent 2 года назад

Thx for your video! Nice and interesting comparison! But why didn’t you show the A500 mini also in full screen mode than in the small fixed size?

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks. As for the screen ratio; 🤷‍♀️

@KarpowSCX 2 года назад

Gemma, regarding the games which are not working on your A600 is because of compatibility issues due to bad programming back in the day. These games are mostly coded to work on A500 with Kickstart 1.3 and 512mb fast ram memory expansion. I recommend you to get compact flash IDE-adapter with compact flash card as hard drive solution. Then get budget accelerator like Furia 33 that comes fast ram expansion. After that you can install Amiga OS and WHDLoad software for your A600 and run the same WHDLoad patched games on A600 (mostly) without any issues as The A500 mini does. Get OS3.2 and Kickstart ROM upgrade as well. Consider getting OS expansion such as ClassicWB on top of Amiga OS as it gives you pretty much all the tools you need on AmigaOS. Believe me, you wont regret upgrade like this. I am sure that the guys at RetroPassion can help you again to get this all done very quickly.

@silverian 2 года назад

By watching this I realized that GoTek Drive is another way to fix broken Amiga floppy drive! Nice info! But loading time of some games reminded me how it was common to make coffee when game was loading..

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Silver

@mancavehobbies6213 2 года назад

Awesome we want more Amiga stuff

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Roger that 😎

@bencheshire 2 года назад

Im not sure if you were trying to trigger me on purpose but I heard you say a few times throughout the video "the A600 mini" and the "A500". It was often hard to tell what you were saying because you were getting confused with these similar sounding products. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Im an old Amiga kid from way back so I understood which machine would likely have longer load times, but just letting you know.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Slip of the tongue 😛 Thanks for watching. I have LOADS of Amiga content in a playlist ;)

@SIPEROTH Год назад

6:40 Where did the cool exhaust fires go with A500 mini? 🤔

@JustinCardiff 2 года назад

Your 600 screen looks a bit stretched to me? With the mini, if you reduce the cropping you get a bigger image.

@xsm5525 2 года назад

600's are the perfect cute bedroom computers for retrogaming IMO only problem is display options, you either have a CRT TV and use the comp, a proper RGB CRT monitor, or you're lucky enough to have an internal scandoubler like the Indivision ECS but they're all sold out everywhere at the moment. I'm guessing most people in 2022 just wanna hook a LCD monitor up to one.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

I hook mine up to my modern little flat screen. You might be able to see it in the thumbnail

@tamrial 2 года назад

Loving all these a500 mini videos!

@Scopie33 2 года назад

Did you swap the disk when the turrican screen flashed blue?

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Tried all sorts yep

@jmgames6628 2 года назад

Nice video, Gemma! Are there any machines you don't have that you want to get? Maybe you should make a video about them if you haven't already! And maybe one about what machines you currently own. I only recently found your channel so I don't know what you own and what you don't yet, though I see you don't have a CD-I yet. Maybe some day! Have you got an Atari ST? There's arguably not much point with the Amigas you own, but could make for some interesting content and attract new audiences. I found your channel through the Amiga A500 Mini in case you were wondering! Though I've watched some of your other videos as well. Keep up the good work!

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Thanks JM. Ooohh in terms of machines I would like! I’d say a Panasonic Q. I don’t know much about the CDi as I didn’t grow up with it. Perhaps I need to do some research 🧐

@jmgames6628 2 года назад

@@TheGebs24 A Panasonic Q would be a good one! I've had a go on a CD-I ages ago, but haven't owned one yet. I'd like to get Hotel Mario at least. I edited my original post and it removed your like - I didn't know that was a thing! Kind of makes sense though I guess since there's a small minority of dodgy people on here.

@ABizzyBYT 2 года назад

Why did you not use fit to screen on the A500 but stretched the 600 screen? Seems strange to keep the huge black boarders

@theoldpcgamer77 2 года назад

I presume she doesn't set her tv to 4:3 for the A600 i've seen her do other old consoles in ugly stretch o vision, some people are fine with that, personally it drives me nuts and must be original 4:3, but each to their own. She can do what she likes obviously.

@jamesbellegarde2893 9 месяцев назад

I’m much more excited hearing there is where we might actually get an a500 Maxi!

@aztockdog Год назад

Do you happen to be using a SCART to HDMI converter on the Amiga 600? It took me a while to realise I needed to press the button on the box until it was in a 4:3 aspect ratio like 800x600 or 1024x768 @50hz… that will stop the Amiga 600 screen being stretched to fit the widescreen 16:9 as seen here in this video. Otherwise the TV remote needs to change aspect ratio to 4:3 for the Amiga 600

@TheGebs24 Год назад

No I don’t use one. Sounds like I need to get one though 🤘

@aztockdog Год назад

@@TheGebs24 Ahh cool! So do you run straight into the TV with the yellow ‘composite’ cable / rca plug? Is that the same way you hook up to your capture device too? If it’s stretched automatically when on your TV you should be able to fix that by changing the ‘Aspect Ratio’ setting from 16:9 to 4:3… also before you invest in any Amiga to HDMI converter send me a message as I have been down the rabbit hole and have some good info ;) If I can help a fellow Amigan anytime too easy. Great content as always- it’s been a while since I have been around

@SeanTube2099 2 года назад

I think it’s was definitely cheaper for me buying the A500 mini, rather than a A600 and gotek drive.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Haha well go for it

@tm0054 2 года назад

Am I crazy? It looks like the parallax background is missing from the A600 version of Zool but present in the A500 mini version.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

You are correct

@rodovanra6783 2 года назад

In stuntcar racer the Amiga 500 mini has better frame rate. Load times might be worse but its clear as night and day that the frame rate is much better.

@mrdavester 2 года назад

How can we fix the tiny screen on the mini while running whdload games? Mini amiga.. mini screensize?

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Have you tried to alter the display options?

@mrdavester 2 года назад

@@TheGebs24 well it looks like theres an ootion of sorts but it is maxed out. I see that it's tiny in this video too.

@davidrendle8408 2 года назад

I think the floppy drive emulator is set to work the same speed as the old floppy drive!! I also believe you can speed it up to run faster!! I think 🤔

@andrewprice8940 2 года назад

Gebs - did you make sure you compared pal vs pal, not pal vs ntsc? That may give distorted results as ntsc would be faster. Amiga games, via Gotek / emulation, requires you to try different versions. The Amiga can run WHDLoad, HDF and lha files. Try different ones.

@Matty112uk 2 года назад

Some games run too fast on the A500 mini, but there is an easy fix (at least until Retro Games Ltd releases a proper fix). You need to find your game in on the flash drive and find its corresponding uae file. Edit the file using notepad in Windows and add a line just under the memory configuration that says: cpu_speed=real Once you've done that, save the file. Now the next time you run the game it should perform at the correct speed. If you can't find a game's uae file, you need to make one. Easiest way to do that is to go to your game on the mini and change one of the settings (it doesn't matter which one). This will then create an uae file for that game.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Yeah I’ve seen this done. Ultimately I’m hoping they fix it themselves

@hehaws 2 года назад

I love your videos, but I reckon its time for a camera upgrade to 4k, Gemma in 4k :P

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

1080p is done for YT. It takes AGES to upload and not everyone has enough bandwidth to watch 4K ☺️

@mattmc779 2 года назад

What is that clock in the background? I want one!!

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

The link to the pixel panel video is in the description

@mattmc779 2 года назад

@@TheGebs24 Fantastic, thanks!

@glennmk5167 2 года назад

I've got the original Amiga 500 with Gotek love it more then the A500 mini......my reasons are...older games run great on the original hardware, Buggy Boy and few others run to quick on the mini and have to add a txt line just to to slow it down, plus also can't get some older games to load up as stuck on intro screen.....but for aga games the mini plays them well, let's hope for a firmware update soon to fix some of these bugs, "A500 mini is more of a quick casual gaming" in my eyes as original 500 will play all the old classics with no hiccups and will just work without messing about with sittings but won't get the aga games....that's where the A500 mini is good and that's aga games but still that cropped screen

@andylloyd8176 2 года назад

Jim Powers and Turrican 3 ;)

@andama5678 2 года назад

Love the D2 shirt :) Do you play…. What’s your gamertag?

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

I used to play it a lot but haven’t really bothered since Forsaken. It’s TheGebs24

@ShinySilvery 2 года назад

Hi Gem Play ‘Warhead’ by Glyn Williams. Recommend turning the lights down low and crank up the sound a bit, for one of the best atmospheric intros appearing out of the blackness and for the most foreboding music theme that I ever recall on the Amiga ! This is a 3D space patrol and combat game, that I found a lot more accessible than the “Elite” space patrol game. Also fan of the Novagen 3D aspect games. The space mission ‘Mercenary’ game and the ‘Damocles’ sequels. Check them out, as they have absorbing missions. Full of Easter Eggs, gaming in jokes and more jokes at the expense of governments of the day. The most impressive performant 3D shoot ‘em up games on the hardware from Novagen are “Battlezone” like games ‘Encounter’, fast on a C64 and better again on Amiga, then outdoing that with ‘Backlash’. How they got these two games to go so fast on the hardware back then, is gob smacking … sadly Paul Woakes of Novagen who authored many of these great games, passed away July 2017.

@stephenrobertson6025 2 года назад

I loved Warhead. Amazing game and the intro was excellent. Warhead was sort of a spiritual prequel to the PC space sim game I-War(Independence War in the USA). I believe the audio in the intro was actually created by Michael Powell, who later partnered with Glyn Williams to form the studio Particle Systems. Michael Powell is better known in Amiga circles for creating the futuristic racing game Powerdrome and the sci-fi sub game Subwar 2050.

@marcwilkinson311 2 года назад

Demo SWOS and Commando 2 great games on amiga

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

👌

@janchristensen9858 2 года назад

Why are you not my neighbor... I will visit you often for play retro games and nerd. PLUS i will recap all your device :-D

@retrogamesandnewgames9854 2 года назад

You are also forgetting the mini can play aga as well

@tofton1977 Месяц назад

It's logical the A500 mini is faster, it's basically a raspberry inside, the A600 even with an usb drive is still a A600!

@ridiculous_gaming 2 года назад

I loved many Gremlins graphic games, but Zool, to me, was ruined by many of the irritating sound effects in the game.

@janwiersma1449 2 года назад

really want scanlines? You can always purchase a HDMI TO Composite video converter and connect it on Your 1084S monitor. I am not really in the need for scanlines, You don"t want Tan-Lines eighter do You? ;)

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

🤣🤣 Gotta love scanlines

@nikosidis 2 года назад

You run many screens in wrong aspect. When you compare Zool, Stunt car and the other games the screen is stretched on A600. You should set the TV, monitor to 4:3 to get correct picture. Regarding Stunt Car racer it will be faster on Mini since it is vector gfx. The same will happen if you play Stunt Car racer on Amiga 1200. The other games you compare would not benefit from faster hardware than Amiga 500 or Amiga 600 that is basically the same computer. Something is very wrong with the sych. with the sound fx when you play Pinball Dreams on the Mini.

@RETROCENGO 2 года назад

Speed, you are comparing a fast emulator with a 30year old 7MHz Computer. Ofcourse some of the games won’t load on your Amiga 600, as you are emulating floppy load WITH kick 2.x that’s a really bad combination for sure, either use relokick 1.3 or better just switch out to real kickstart 1.3. Now compare game play with a proper Amiga joystick vs that awful joypad. Compare sound quality of the Paula chip vs the emulator. Put in 030 and load games from flash disk in your Amiga 600 with whdload and check out compatibility and loading speed, now that’s fair comparison. Wish you a great day

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Obviously 🙄 It was just a bit of fun 🤩

@cybernet70791 2 года назад

Amiga 500 mini is always going to be faster as it's emulation. But it's wayyyyyyyy behind the Amiga 600. Mini is good but Ya will never beat original hardware. Ditch the gotek and use a proper floppy drive always better

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Well as luck has it…. Well I’ll ask if you heard my comment about my Amiga 500 bundle?

@AaronAzan1979 2 года назад

With Zool, the A600 is running ECS version and the A500 Mini is running the AGA version. You cannot really compare to be honest. Sorry! Love the channel though.

@TheGebs24 2 года назад

Yup. This is not a digital foundry comparison. Just a bit of fun

@spookygeek9459 2 года назад

🎮🕹👍🏼😊

@mancman-bu4kz 2 года назад

I got my a500 hundreds of floppys 💾 in new case holders (some boxed plus amiga 500 manuals boxed but missing the powebrick need new one) trying get sold ebay but zero interest unbelievably lol.. bought a mini and did own USB stick and love it