He knew exactly what had happened/what he had done because he planned it days before. He just lacks the integrity to admit what he is to the interviewers.
He saw Shannan, Nico and the girls as one unit to be disposed of, not as separate individuals. Chris lies so often, no one will ever know the complete truth.
That's so true. We can only suppose. I think he likes to tease and keep the world guessing. I personally believe he killed his girls before Shanann even got home. Very planned very premeditated and Chris, you are a shitty a liar as you are a person. Liar, liar, pants on fire!
That rings true for me, Lynn. I think those kids had to die because they WERE her life. Without them, she may as well be dead and if he only killed her, she would live on through them. I think he was erasing every cell connected to her that he could because once she tried to save the marriage, she became a threat to his happiness, triggering his hate and rage.
Bella could have talked and got him in trouble, but he could have let Cece live and she wouldn't have been a threat to him. But he chose to kill her anyway. It had to be because she represented Shannan and he wanted to wipe out all trace of her. And he wanted to start fresh with the new woman
Poor little, pensive, worried Bella. Make no mistake, her 5 years were in a household of tension with a weird father. Kids know when one of their parents is distant and cold and it frightens them. How sad for those poor angels.
I sympathize with Bella over everyone else. Spitting image of her daddy, worshipped him, and was aware to the end. It tears my soul and makes me so mad at everyone who contributed. On both sides.
Bella seemed very intelligent for being her age. It’s almost like she has an old soul as if she has the motherly instinct of protecting Cece from danger. I wish that Bella would have ran and got out of the truck as he had dumped her younger sister in the tanks then hid away from him.
It just shows how evil, and narcissistic he is, and how much he only loves himself but could not care less about his beautiful wife and his own children. He makes me want to vomit.. seriously!
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Kat Kat Yes! It's so hard to comprehend and he even packed a lunch? Live Abuse Free says that is very disturbing. Who could eat after something like that?? I don't get it either.
Kat Kat I was wrong about this one, but check this out. I swear I'm not crazy. This was right after the polygraph, but before the confession. Graham says, at about 2:04, "Did you guys make sure they were warm when you got them in the truck that night?" or something very similar. Here's the link. It's very short. Please let me know what you think! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GaW0ykHxqnI.html
Its all an act. Part of the smokescreen he has created. It could be his way of self soothing; remember...he is a good guy, he never got angry, he was the guy that packed his babies bags, and brushed their hair, read them stories. To hear anything other than peace, is destroying his warped narrative.
The decision to grab his lunch box rules out any notions of him considering suicide as well, because he obviously planned to continue on with his day like nothing had happened. He definitely contradicts himself a lot, I'm so pleased that they didn't give him time to think before the interview. It's so hard to listen to though.
Oh yes and I can not imagine that ego letting him destroy himself with suicide,,,,,,,,he does not have the conscience for remorse,,,,the only remorse he has is that he’s not alone with that woman in her cute little apartment that he loves to putter around in ,,,,,,,,,,monster,subhuman monster ,deserves jail house reckoning and then Shannans family can sleep with a little more peace at night !!! Aye?!,,,,poor ,poor little ones and their mum,,,,,,,,,,,,,❤️🩹🕊🕊🙏🏼🕊🕊❤️🩹. 🤬😡🤧. 🇨🇦
You are the only one able to tell it like it is , with your quiet controlled authority.This case is so monstrous, every time I hear about it, chills me to the bone, never loses that horrific impact,I don’t think it ever will.
@@LiveAbuseFree It is unbelievable to look from the outside what he had; a beautiful, hard-working wife, two beautiful daughters and a son on the way, a luxurious home, furnishings, nice transportation, food on the table, a well paying job so much to be grateful for and do this senseless, horrific crime just to sit in a lonely jail cell the rest of his life. Obviously, he does not think much past the moment and the consequences of his actions. I guess it is the grandiosity and lack of empathy of this disorder. Incomprensible and scary!!!
Yeah ik right?? You don't know what he is saying the truth or a lie?? He wants to like say the right thing Idk how he could live with himself after doing this mad horrible thing so evil and crazy.. OMG!! Oh is this a real picture of him now I read some where its fake?? Not that it really matters
@@ronaldolaquidara64 The sad thing is, is that the jail is allowing him photographs of Shanann and the children in his jail cell. Why would they do that? He should have no right to their photographs after he wiped them off the planet.
Oh my word.. I KNOW! I can taste the vomit coming up in my throat whenever I hear his horrible ,despicable voice. It's like listening to Satan , himself speaking.
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What really sucks is that we don't know which parts are true and which aren't... I'm certain he will never be honest, he don't know how, he has to keep up the act.
Omosh, sorry to keep posting...I agree that Bella knew something bad happened and was scared to act the way she normally would. He probably looked different, evil.
katherine harvey I am not sure why this is being addressed to me… Why would somebody be writing to me telling me what somebody else cared about? I don’t think I understand you tube very much.
About the lunch, that's is what got me the first time I heard the interview. That's the part that told me most about his character, and his frame of mind. I am a survivor of child abuse, and I agree with you about Bella and Celeste's during the drive. Listening to you, I could picture them in the back seat, and could imagine them, and what they were doing, and thinking💔😢. I did wonder, though, if he did kill the girls before burying Shanann? I only wonder because, he didn't really know how much time he would have. I don't know if he would have risked his coworkers arriving and finding his little girls in his truck. I also feel like he tried to kill them as quickly as possible. One of his coworkers had stated in their interview, that when they arrived he had a shovel. There are so many things you (spot on) pinpoint. I really appreciate all your observations that speak to premeditation. You help fill in the gaps left, and drive it home. There are so many points you make, that demonstrate your level of observation, and thoughtfulness. You are compassionate, and concise, not just to the situation, but for the listener. Your breaking this down, helped me to know why understanding Narcissism (for society, as a whole) is so important. Doing this can't be easy. Applying your skills to these interviews, must be a grueling process. Thanks you so much.
Samaritan's Lessons thank you so much for your kind words, I really appreciate you mentioning it is a gruelling process to make the videos- the editing part definitely has been! Yes you could be right about when he buried her and in either case I think it sounds like he may have still been finishing the job or may have gone back to finish the job. We have to use a lot of guess work when someone lies so much, don’t we!
@@LiveAbuseFree I appreciate your validation in regards my comment. I never want to come across as undermining your expertise. I truly respect your understanding, as do so many. Taking the time to read and acknowledge your subscribers, is more than most would do, especially as a seasoned professional. Thank you again. I look forward to you next video.
Live Abuse Free, I am a subscriber, and I really appreciate the time you put into this for us. You are very wise and present the evidence in a very measured, careful manner. I also like that you don't do 'live' broadcasts because I feel that so often takes away from the calibre of the channel, having to constantly review and reply to comments and thank people for paying, etc. That format would detract a great deal from your delivery, and I don't have time to watch or listen to 'live chats'. Just wanted you to know how grateful I am for your videos and all your work on our behalf.
Elizabeth Elliott thank you so much! 😊 I’m glad to hear what you say about live videos because I don’t know if they are something I’ll ever do- I rely on being able to edit! 😆
Thank you for another wonderful video. What’s also so telling is how Chris never expresses remorse or regret for what his daughters lost - their entire lives.
Aimee Gwatney...Yes, and for his precious son ,as well! And, of course his dear wife.SO senseless. I know I shouldn't hate anyone, but I can not help myself from feeling intense hatred for this man. :'(
Sometimes I think they give him too much leeway in their questioning. They kind of give him ideas to jump onto and go with. He's not intelligent enough to make up some of these excuses without them giving him a head start.
Lisa Martin yes I sometimes cringed at all of the closed questions, I don’t personally understand why there were so many leading questions and I would have thought we would have discovered more had there not been. Presumably they had reasons to do that but I don’t know what they were!
Yes! I don’t think he would have come up with the lie about her killing the girls if the female detective hadn’t given him the idea earlier in their interrogation (in the first videos ). He probably thought , hey that’s sounds good idea, let’s go with that!
Chris is such a manipulative person that it’s hard to gauge where he’s being truthful and when he’s just conning the interviewers. Your videos really help breakdown and separate the 2 though.
Your videos are excellent and I really look forward to them. The way you analyze CW is so detailed and thoughtful. Thank You! I agree that CW absolutely 💯 premeditated the murders of his wife and children. NK told CW that she didn’t want to be a stepmother to his children. She wanted to be with someone who didn’t already have kids. That is why poor Bella and Cece had to die. By killing his wife & kids, CW was creating the new life he & NK would have together. No burdensome wife & children in the way. After he murdered and buried his family he then proceeded to go to work, call the children’s school and say they wouldn’t be attending, call the realtor to quickly sell the house, text NK, eat, etc. All the actions of a cold blooded killer who carried out his plan and experienced not a hint of remorse or regret. Someone who snapped would be a mess after realizing what they had done. CW was as cool as a cucumber. He will never admit that this was all premeditated because he has to preserve his good guy image. But the evidence let’s us know that CW planned everything!
Kids this age don’t have a firm grasp of what death or being dead means. Even when you try to explain it they don’t grasp it. Therefore I don’t think the kids would have been scared. Confused, definitely, but not scared. Chris played the role of good daddy so they had no reason to be scared. Another thing I will mention is when Chris says he got mad and killed everybody in sight, you said that he can’t sustain that kind of anger for an hour, which makes sense. He had 33 years of pent up anger and resentment, even stating “I’ve never been mad before.” But of course he’s been mad, he just stuffed it. So I think he had had enough and all that anger came out not in a blind rage but in a controlled explosion. The most pitiful part of all this is that he talked about shanann being controlling and how good it felt to be himself around NK. She was already taking charge finding him an apartment. He probably hasn’t figured out yet that he’s the problem...
I'm a Funeral Director/Embalmer, and it is correct what you said about the kids and their understanding of death. Well, it's what I learnt in one of my Mortuary courses. The tense atmosphere is what the girls would of picked up on.
The malignant narcissist in my life has never been the problem. Just ask him - it's everyone else: his teachers, his mentors, his neighbors, his ex, his employers, his government . . . All stupid, inept, evil, selfish, and controlling. Oh, I left out "all women." Apparently, the entire gender is crazy, manipulative, and hopelessly ignorant. It's been 60+ years, and the fact that he has no close friends, no gainful employment, and few close family relationships to speak of has only convinced him that he is so uniquely special that most people are just to ignorant and superficial to appreciate his special brand of genius. My point is that CW will never, ever look inward for understanding his situation. There's nothing there but a mountain of self-justification for whatever he wants to say or do. You don't like it? Then you're the problem. That's as far as his thought process goes. He just covers it up with smiles, jokes, fake friendliness. My narcissist can do a little of that, but the seething hostility is just below the surface. He spends a lot of energy prodding you to scrape the surface so he tell you off, call you a name and show the contempt he has for you because that whole process is what gets him out of bed in the morning. It took far to long, but I finally learned that the off-ramp was living into the truth taught here: complete, utter indifference to the prodding, no matter how provocative, and actively withholding all personal space, information, thoughts, values and feelings from him. Nothing is worth opening that door and letting his damaged, vile behavior in.
A logic so persuasive I don't know what to say. A great interpretation of the facts, how can we not see it your way? Keep up the good work that's a cut above the rest. Seen other videos on the subject, but yours are by far the best.
Also when he is asked by Tammy, "On the way there was it your intention to do that"? Meaning killing the children. He immediatly answers "You mean the tanks"?
@sheila beadsandtea Great Point. He is so scary to me, the "mask" of the CW that was presented to the world for 33 yrs , came off that summer . How very tragic this case has been. 😫😥😭
I love this channel, the way you explain everything.Its easy for a layman to understand. By understanding this monster it somehow calms my nerves . You really are helping me deal with this terrible tragedy.. Also the narcissist husband I had and to heal from his abuse. You really are wonderful . Thank you ❤️
When he talks about blowing himself up with the gas can, and then says. "He didn't want anyone else to get hurt." That comment comes from his discussion with Graham Coder. Coder had talked to him about the tanks, he asked Chris if the girls were really in the tanks, and mentioned that if anything happened to the recovery crews / first responders that that would get pinned on Chris too. I've noticed that Chris Watts repeats a lot of things he hears. Typical of a narcissist, they have to copy others to appear normal. And yes, I agree he's completely lying about being "not in his right mind." He penned a letter on August 8th, that he gave to his sister. It said if anything happens to me or the kids, investigate my wife. So he was planning as early as August 8th. I also think he didn't know exactly which way his neighbor's camera was pointed. Nate had told him that he could park his truck in front of Nate's house, but I don't think Chris realized that the camera caught his driveway at all. When Chris is watching the neighbor's video, and Nate is telling Chris all the things the camera picks up, Chris had no idea that his driveway would be in that shot. I think he thought the camera would only show Nate's driveway and front yard, because that's where Nate told Chris to park his car. I think Chris was inquiring about what the camera picks up by saying his truck was broken into. I doubt his truck was ever broken into at all.
It’s especially hard for me to imagine what Shanann would’ve thought if she’d ever had the faintest idea that she would’ve ever been physically present (her body) with her girls in such a critical situation and so utterly unable to protect them. I don’t know how to phrase it other than to say the thought would’ve killed her. I still cannot believe he was willing to desecrate them the way he did. I doubt he even thought a prayer or a goodbye. He degraded them even in death, especially being so rough with the girls and tossing his vomit into the grave. That he packed a lunch has always stood out to me as so vile. It occurred to me that he may have not wanted anything to appear out of the ordinary, but I don’t think anyone would’ve noticed. Even trying to come to terms with how soulless a person can be, I can’t wrap my head around someone taking such little issue with heinous murders that he’d be worried about a little hunger. You’d think having such things on your mind would keep you from eating and sleeping for days on end, even for a terrible person.
Yes, Chris Watts is utterly ruthless & heartless. The way he battled hard day after day 2 escape the heat 4 his depraved crimes still sickems me! All the lies! He gave TV ihterviews FGS! He musta believed he was this really plausible, great acter but failed 2 see that was his achilles heel cuz he lacks empathy 2 behave as a decemt guy! His faithful wife saw the true Chris Watts 2 late, as he murdered her. I wish she had escaped him, she was a great lady with much 2 achieve. It is a small mercy she was spared the awarehess that her hubby treated her & their girls with such callus disrespect after death. His depravity is utterly disgustig!
Even when Chris was 1st interviewed, he was eating Pizza! He knew he murdered his family that morning but still managed to eat. He's truly sick in the head
I for one, think that Chris Watts lies so much, that he can’t keep any of his “stories” straight. I think also that he killed those babies before his unsuspecting wife got home from the airport. He was running out of time and he knew he still had to dispose of the bodies. I wish we could learn “the real truth”. I am sure that it is far more horrible then we can even imagine! Bella, CeCe, Shannon and Baby we never knew you, but you will live forever in our hearts. Thank you for the great video. It is so great that we can have our own thoughts and share them with others! I enjoy watching and will continue to look forward to more.
Yes I've started 2 believe that re the girls - his wife's delay was a huge pressure, he may well have decided 2 kill Bella & Cece earlier, at their bedtimes. I suspect they were smcthered there by him, Bella's facial damage suggests 2 me she was laid flat, because he ripped her lip & she bit herself. Awful. I simply fail 2 see why he'd delay the kids' murders & take them alive 2 Cervi. Sadly, he hated them, they were a huge headache 4 him. Wd he really seek a truck ride with them cryihg 4 their dead Mum, as they usually did.... I really struggle 2 believe that. He'd have beem stressed already, why add traumatised kids 2 the mix...
@@glamdolly30 There's still a lot of time from her arriving home to him leaving with them in the truck though...it looks like he wasn't eager to do it exactly as soon as possible?
@@fuzzyfoods710 I suspect Chris Watts did act fast & kill his 3 victims speedily. He was likely freaked by his wife's delayed arrival, which reduced his timihgs 4 the crimes & must have added 2 his stress. He was well aware that he HAD 2 arrive at Cervi with the victims early, B4 it was light & staff arrived there & saw him! He might have decided 2 leave it til later that week, that there was imsufficiemt time. But he was all set & really determihed 2 get rid f his family, thus he pressed ahead. This reveals his utterly ruthless character! He had apprx 3 hrs - that's 3 hrs 2 kill all 3 victims & get them wrapped & 2 the truck, while makig sure he wasmt seeh. A witmess wd be a disaster! His wife came back at 1.48am & he fetched truck 2 the garage & started 2 fetch his dead family plus items 2 it appx 5.15am. 3 hrs is quite a small space 2 fulfil such a high risk crime.
@@glamdolly30 I guess I have no idea how long it takes to commit a murder! It only takes ten minutes max to strangle someone? I suppose I was referring to the seeming fact that he didn't start the horrible process at 3 in the morning to optimise his time, it seems he waited at least an hour before the first murder which doesn't seem to fit with the idea that his plan got pushed back. Turning up at the oil site any earlier than he did would have looked suspicious? So what happened at the house seems unimportant since he could not have arrived at work at 4 am...it seems he was always going to have very little time at the site? But this is a little grim, the plan may have been to dismember the mother's body at the home to ensure it also went in the tanks as that seemed to be the perfect way to destroy evidence AND make sure the cover up at the actual site was fast. I suppose we will never know
I think he killed the babies before SW got home as well. I think that is the reason why he could not postpone his plans when SW’s flight was 3 hrs late. He HAD to kill SW, no other choice. I think he heard about the shadows video from his family and he concocted a new story. He made it sound horrifying on purpose to convince people it had to be true because it makes him sound so bad, why would he tell this lie? Easy, because if people knew he killed the babies first, he can't blame SW for triggering this out of body angry spirit story he is trying to sell. He can't pretend it was this one-off type event of him losing his mind because evil, controlling SW pushed him too far. He will NEVER admit it. He does not want to deal with that shame. He is so desperate to have people think this was not premeditated. It's so damn obvious.
The lunch! That is such a good point. As I understand it, his routine was to make his lunch every morning before work (and make the girls' lunches, if they were going to "school" (while Shanann slept). Yet he did not say he made the girls' lunches that day (naturally, since he planned to kill them). How grisly.
I'm just so amazed by how u always manage to catch even the finest of details and are so in tune with what everyone is saying! You are always on point! Example the lunch box comment, I have listened to the entire interview and that part went straight over my head😂 but u caught it right away and that's just ONE SMALL example! I just love love love your breakdown/analysis on everything because it is really helping me and so many others to somewhat understand his sick mind and to find some closure on this horrific case! You have a very brilliant mind and I'm so glad that you choose to use a platform like RU-vid to help us all by exposing these toxic and dangerous types people.
You are one of the only sane people talking about this case. So many people blaming his "mistress", blaming ~*government experiments*~ etc. People don't want to believe that someone is capable of doing something like this simply because narcissists see everyone, aside from himself, as disposable.
Well, this is a guy who was greedily chowing down on pizza in the interrogation room while simultaneously looking at pictures of his children---or it could have been when he was watching them on camera, which is even more evil.
Good question, in my opinion THE leading question, following the knowledge from this channel, Iwould guess: He does not learned lying in his childhood. His childhood itself WAS lying-growing. At young age, when a small child realizes, better stop feel own feelings and focus on the expectations of others and getting more and more a professional in this. Shortly: Learning, what someone else wants to hear. Or more precise, what you THINK others want to hear.
Thank you for the time you put into this and the research that you do. You have helped me so much in understanding my past more and you are empowering people with knowledge on how to protect themselves from people like Chris. Thank you!
Hard to believe he could do this to his wife and two small children What a monster he was. He killed what most people would die for It is impossible to make a Narcissist happy.
I think all of us have "exploded" at least once, and personally, I never once had a desire to hurt someone much less MURDER them!!!!! I don't buy his BS!
Davina Stanton He can’t help himself, he is always caught up in how he feels he is portrayed. He is a murderer anyway he spins it and killed his innocent wife and two lovely loving babies. Coward pos
@Patricia Waits Yes Patricia, I think so too. They are telling everything that is going on. I don't believe a word of what this Monster says. It doesn't make any sense in his last interview. I believe that Shannan and her beautiful children were murdered at home. The children maybe before Shannan got home, as he wouldn't send her a picture of them sleeping. Poor little souls didn't stand a chance, neither did Shannan. I don't know if we will ever know the truth about what happened that awful morning. Heartbreaking truly heartbreaking. 💜
I agree Davina! Chris is still lying! We may never know the truth. But those angels know what he did. They are the only ones who have the truth sadly so. Poor babies 😢 hurts our hearts!!
I've been following this case since it happened and a question just occurred to me. Has anyone ever asked him what he would have said happened if he had more time to come up with something? I always felt like he didn't have enough time to come up with a good story or to get rid of her cell phone and belongings because her friend got worried and called the police soon. I bet he HATES that woman.
I admit I am back again to listen to this entire series probably for the 4th or 5th time and I am still catching golden nuggets of insights. This is such a fascinating case to me. I would love to hear from any friend or family member If there were any red flags in hindsight. The fact we have not heard of any overt red flags does not mean there were not any...
In the police interviews with Shan'nan's dad and brother they both mentioned that the girls screamed a lot when Shan'nan wasn't there. Bella was supposed to attend school that day. I don't think she would want to leave for the day without her clothes on and her backpack.
I agree - it beggars belief that Chris Watts let his kids live awhile & be pests, & maybe risk that they'd alert ppl, as he dragged their dead Mum 2 the truck! Bella & Cece were babies, 3 & 4 & very tight with their Mum - they wd surely cry 4 her, ask 4 her, quiz him, trip him up, ask him 4 water, say they were peckish etc etc. He'd have hated it! Chris Watts hated his daughters. Why is it credible at all that he delayed the girls' murders - this has 2 be a huge lie, he killed all victims at the hcuse & put dead victims ihside his vehicle. Why add risk - I suspect he may actually have killed them B4 his wife returmed 2 save himself time, because she was delayed. If he killed the kids early, he gave himself a head start with the family murders.
@HONEY MOO MOO We must agree 2 disagree - the eyes play tricks! U say U saw details such as the child's HAIR... I saw zilch! That 'Armchair detective' click bait vid is simply 1 idea & a very far fetched idea at that. It beggars belief that Chris Watts decided 2 take the kids alive & risk their cries, chatter, etc as he dragged his dead wife 2 the truck. Why did he take them alive - he failed 2 reply each time LE raised that query! Seems 2 me he tells this fairy tale 2 make his murders seem impulsive, & hide the ugly truth that his 3 murders were premeditated & that he is a cruel, heartless & utterly ruthless wife & baby killer.
Do suicidal people pack their own lunches and sign up for fantasy football leagues? As you've said over and over, he tries to paint himself as a victim of some other force, rather than admit that this is what he wanted to do. And as you say, he ran out of time. The burial job was haphazard and he left the shovel handle as a marker so that he could come back later to do a better job.
I think he didn’t kill them spontaneously - because of anger or because they saw him kill the mom, he already asked a colleague not to come to the oil battery location. Doesn’t it mean he planned to dump kids in oil? They are the only ones small enough to fit. If he wanted to just bury Shannan alone, would make more sense to bring her elsewhere, to a forest or something, where he doesn’t work and usually hang around. But if he didn’t kill them in rage or because they could tell on him, why? Just to get a fresh start with NK?
Bella had gotten to an age where she would repeat negative remarks that Shanann made, according to NK. She was very good at copying- if you ever saw the video of her imitating the grandmother dancing at the diner...and she would repeat Shanann's words back to him. NK asked him what he would do about that and he said he would just say it's not nice to talk to anyone that way. So I think he had already grown animosity toward her and now she saw what he did and he knew she would repeat it. If the kids were both a year younger I bet they would be alive right now.
@Snow Flake But doesn't it seem that if he burned the body, of course people would discover that -- and they'd put two and two together, i.e., "Well, Shanann Watts and her kids are missing, and there was a fire at the oil site where Chris went that morning". Sounds like he really didn't think this through, which either means he's incredibly stupid OR he didn't plan it at all. I still don't know what to think.
@@hope5360 And NK is not a paragon of truth, so how do you know that Bella would repeat what she heard? I can tell when my kids are being snotty and rude to another adult and I know SW could, too.
No child support with the girls dead. And he cannot truly love other people. Once he was ready for a new life with NK, Shan'Ann and the girls were all in his way.
I just cannot move forward from this case. I used to be fascinated with other cases, but this one 😱 there are so many layers, so many horrendous details. His depth of depravity is incomprehensible to us normal people. He's so cold. I may be in the minority, but I believe the kids were killed at the house. I can't imagine a 4 yr old saying it smells, most would say stinks. I don't think on the 45 minute ride, they alternated sleeping. We won't ever know though and that's what drives us crazy!
I agree - Chris Watts is a wimp - why wud he delay the kids murders like that & take 'em 2 the Cervi site, he hardly liked them did he! He was desperate 2 get away with these crimes & start a fresh life with the mistress - he'd hardly let his 3 & 4 yrs girls risk his arrest with their chatter, cries, play etc! They'd be whistle blcwers as he carried their deceased Mum!
So sad and pathetic that he’s still trying to make out he is not responsible for his own actions even now trying to wriggle out. What a nasty selfish piece of work. If hell exists he belongs there. If it doesn’t he still belongs there. I don’t think I’ll be able to listen to the next part it’s too traumatic but thank you. Your video is good calm and rational as always.
Ms LAF, thank you so much for bringing your wisdom and insight to the February 2019 interview of CW. I trust you for knowledge of what CW said about the murders themselves, ( as I still cant bring myself to listen to certain parts of the interview). How might a child of Bella's age have reacted to seeing her mother dead? Well I had an experience that may shed some light on that question, when my younger son was about 18 months old. We were at home when I heard him cry out from a fall. When I got over to him, he had collapsed -- limp and white and not breathing. I was speechless and shocked. I cradled him in my arms, and my older son, who was 5 years old, rushed over, took one look, and blurted out , "Mummy, is he dead?!!" My older boy at that date had never seen a dead animal, let alone a dead person. I don't know how he knew instantly that something life-threatening had just happened to his brother -- but he did. And he voiced exactly what I was thinking and didn't dare to say. (Just so you know, my younger boy came to not long after, with no harm done. He had developed a medical condition which he later fully recovered from.) The point i am making is that a child of Bella's age knows what normal looks like; and if they actually see someone they love looking not normal, they find it very shocking and confusing. They want an explanation and reassurance from the nearest adult, and they are old enough to put their fear into words and ask the key questions. I do not think that Bella was "too young" to feel and respond in this way. If Bella and CeCe did actually see Shanann's body, covered or not, I think they would have been profoundly upset. This is why I do not think it likely that Chris-"Was-I-ever-a-dad?- I-dont-know"-Watts killed his daughters at Cervi 319. We know by his own admission that he did not cope well with the girls when they were upset; and so I think he would have avoided creating a situation where he might have had to respond/sort out/deal yet again with their emotional distress. I think he organised the murders efficiently, in such a way as to cause himself the least stress and inconvenience. I believe he is a singleminded methodical thinker - but in this interview he is putting up a smokescreen, presenting himself as "dumb" and "confused" to gain sympathy. I must say he has succeeded, judging by the number of commenters who also describe him as dumb. I don't think he is dumb at all. He has blind spots, and he made errors because his understanding of human emotions is very limited; but he is a practiced manipulator, and he completely pulled the wool over poor Shanann's eyes, and every single one of his friends and acquaintances, and I strongly suspect NK too.
Thanks so much for this very interesting and well written comment. Thank goodness your son was ok! That must have been terrifying for you. I agree with so much of what you say- including that he is pretending to have been dumb and confused (or at least out of his mind and not carefully protecting himself) when he wasn't. I think he did everything carefully and as you say methodically. Even though we have different ideas about where the children were killed, (I do take your point and can imagine Bella would have wondered if Shanann was dead but I think when told she wasn't by her dad she would have felt confused rather than certain. So I don't think she would necessarily have been difficult to manage). I agree he would have killed them in the most convenient way for him for sure.
There is no room for her body on the floor unless the seat was up (it can). He talks about the anger and how quickly it all happens so to me it makes sense he did it all at once. So Shannan on the floor, with seat up and the girls beside her dead.
Wow, am I ever sick to death of hearing him throw Shanann under the bus! "Nobody judge me. I was just in a rage because my wife and kids wouldn't allow me to have an affair and get away scott free with no consequences."
Thanks for your thoughtful insights, so packed with substantial information. No fluff added! I wonder if she arrived home at the earlier time if he would have left the girls home, thinking they don't wake up during the night. He could have said "Mommy didn't come home after all", but because she was so late Bella woke up. I do think it was premeditated because of his pre-arranged trip to the site and original plan was to get rid of the evidence with the gasoline, but now it was too late because his co-workers would be arriving soon. NK told detectives that all she knew was that everything was going to go down on Monday and he told shanann to wait till Monday to reveal the gender -lots of premeditation clues.
Aww, he cared about not hurting other people with his plan with the gas can!! NOT buying it Twatts! I would have loved to be in the car with Tammy and others on their way back to the airport talking about their disgust with CTwatts!
You know, after finding myself (years ago) in the unfortunate position of having to educate myself about narcissism/getting out of abusive relationship with a narcissist etc... I thought that I’d become pretty decent at spotting narc. behaviors in people. Well, then I found your videos, specifically your videos on Chris Watts! I truly did not see in Chris (at first) all these things that you’ve pointed out! My GOD you are just nailing it! Truly frightening!
Again, I think he mixes the truth up in lies to (as you said) try to make himself seem less of a monster. I don't think a child who had witnessed what he said she did would have fallen back asleep and thus "woke back up", as he said Bella did. Such a child would have been hysterical or, at the very least, tearful and worried.
I do agree with a late plane flight her friend Nicole showing up ruined all of his laid out pre meditated plans. . It's scary a man could be sitting right beside you like Chris and you wouldn't know. Gives me the creeps
Excellent video as always! I also considered the oilcan was to burn his wife’s body. Would explain the shallow grave. He may have wanted to blow the place up in the end, but any further plans he had were disrupted by the neighbor calling police and forcing him home.
One of the most painful details in this terrible and horrific case is the fact that Chris Watts made his packed lunch ;not just because he made his lunch after he had killed his pregnant wife and unborn son in such an evil way ,but also because he was considering his own stomach and his future needs ,at the very same time he was planning to horribly kill his 2 small daughters and dump their bodies ! As he made his lunch he knew that his own children would never eat or breathe or play again...It frightens me that a person could envisage their future hunger in such a basic way while murdering their entire family ! It is terrifying how an absence of love can cause a human being to become a narcissist and to lose compassion and to fall so far away from everything that makes a decent human being !
Wow! Thank you so much for your clear and revealing insight into this man. It’s so hard to listen to, so thank you for this calm analysis. I will need to watch it a few times. I find that I can’t take it all in at one go. Can’t thank you enough for these supremely professional videos. 🌸💕
These little girls, so innocent, so small, and so frightened-sitting immediately near their deceased mother---there are NO WORDS for this horror.😣😣😣 Thank you for your observations. I don't know what to even say beyond that. This is so so horrific.
I totally agree with you about the girls being confused as hell that morning. They didn’t know what the heck was going on and probably remained quiet and compliant since their daily routine had been shattered to pieces.
I have seen many videos and documentaries regarding this case. I've watched the previous 3 parts of this series. Your insight into human behavior and Watts' motivations are incredible. You would make an exemplary investigator or profiler! I'm subscribing!
The kids would tell on him. In fact, he was worried that the kids would tell on him if he let his parents do a video call. Anyone remember that? After the NC vacation, Ronnie disclosed that. Chris knew they would tell about mommy!
Love your videos... I’ve commented before about the way you break down what CW said and interpret it so intelligently and relay it in a way everyone understands... thank you for all the time you dedicate to this channel!!! Keep up the awesome job !!!!
I also like the way you kept the matter scientific and psychology-based, as opposed to capitalizing on the emotional appeal of this tragedy, like other channels unfortunately did. No words in the world can possible express the injustice and betrayal the people went through, especially the two girls, and you treated the matter with the great respect it deserves.
He doesn't know if Snannans bowels and bladder evacuated......and he never said anything about having to clean that up, and no such thing was found on any of the sheets in the kitchen garbage or the sheet found at her grave site. Also, my mothers body lay in state on her bed for 22 hours before the funeral directors came to take her away......there was no smell.......but we are asked to believe that Shannan's body smelled less than 4 hours after her death, maybe even less. Not credible.
Juanita I agree. I don't think her body smelled or evacuated, because, as you say, that would have been found on the sheet he left out there, and it wasn't, or traces would have been found in the house. I think (in this case) he was truthful, that it was that "skunk smell" that he mentioned, which can be very strong sometimes, and even permeate houses. It's woken me up before.
It was reported that girls bedsheet was washed?..NK stated that CW complained about the "smell"?...(bowels/bladder)...Bella fought back...scared...NK again stated that CW was playing "loud music"...before Shanann arrived home..this would of woken the girls as light sleepers...I believe the girls were killed before Shanann arrived home.....(the washing of sheets/music long phone call with NK)...CW was waiting for Shanann to arrive home took her by surprise...If they had sex then why was Shanann wearing her bra and pants?..Who puts underwear/t/shirt back on after sex to sleep?....CW is psychopathic narcisissit..people are nothing but objects....Supply is the only thing CW is interested in...(power/control)...He talks BS...Shock value (girls killed at site)..will provide supply...We will never know what really happened unless NK is involved and gets arrested.....Narcissisit are LAIRS...He knows the truth is wanted...so why would he tell the truth?...This feeds his narcissisim...He and only him knows the truth (unless NK is involved)?.....This keeps him "alive" out of the prision life he has today...because there is still (will be)....interest in him......We ourselves are giving our thoughts and theories....this is CW supply....You have to remember narcissisit do not hold humanity/empathy....do not give a FF what others think of him....it is all about CW and nothing else.
Such a horrible situation. I really enjoy your assessment and thoughts. I can't believe he can even talk about what he did. Seems nonchalant and so matter of fact. The crying adds a particularly uneasy feel. I doubt he was crying when he did this,.
CW states that when Bella came into the room she saw her mom on the bed face down as CW was getting the sheet off the bed. This leads me to believe that what he said about strangling her while strattling her as she layed on her back could very well be a lie. Is it logical that he would go to the trouble of turning her over afterward? I never believed he would have the courage to look her in the face and kill her, he was too weak to do that.
Just like he "ran with it" over the FBI agents suggestion/trap that Shannan killed the babies and he covered up for her, he only came up with the story of the kids being alive after hearing from his parents about the ADs shadows videos......he just "ran with it", and he is challenging the Ds to disprove it by asking "Didn't you see the video"?
EXACTLY! I feel it's sad he has persuaded a few ppl with that clear deceit. The kids were dead, as he is well aware! The CCTV reveals ZILCH 2 say the kids were alive. That's lame click bait, by Armchair Detective etc. CW's such a parasite, he steals ideas because he's far 2 dumb 2 have them!
Good morning, thank you I'm not sure what happened last night with the server, so pleased to find your video. I sincerely want to thank you, I have learnt so much about the almost incomprehensible mind set of individuals such as Chris Watts. How sad such similar tragedies keep occuring, time and time again. If I feel, such disgust towards him, how must the parents and family of Shanaan feel? So inconsolable must their grief be. May they be blessed with peace, and grace from their faith.
He was so angry with Shannan that he took it out on everyone around that morning but didn't set himself on fire in case he hurt anyone who may have been around the vicinity......totally contradictory
It would be an even bigger risk for him to drive nearly an hour as it was getting light outside and commuters and truckies on the road, to have two children not in cars seats, most likely terrified and hysterical, and if a cop saw that and stopped him with Shannans body on board, the game would be up before he ever got to the site. The possibility of being see out there......the whole story is a lie.
@@glamdolly30 New info from Jewels of Thought, the girls were killed and in the tanks before Shannan ever arrived home, and her grave pre-dug before......so all he had to do at the site was bury Shannan.......
@@kamaropayne5226 Jewels is a well known YT creator who does in depth research and has many contacts related to the case. But this info is from over 3 years ago so I can't remember everything. Go and see her channel.
Why is he so worried about the way that others perceive him? If he were really that obsessed with what other people think about him then why would he commit a crime as heinous as killing his pregnant wife, burying her face down in the dirt like a dog, killing his small children and then stuffing them into oil batteries? People have affairs all the time, people get themselves into debt all of the time, people fall out of love with their spouses but not very many people decide to wipe their entire family off the face of the earth. Thank you for these videos. I love to hear your analysis on Chris Watts and his actions and motivations. After this Watts thing is all over and done with will you please do some videos on Donald Trump and his obvious NPD. Thank-you!!!
Lisa Marie Lund haha I have thought of doing that many times! Maybe I will one day, my concern is that some people will get very caught up in the politics and no longer be able hear the message and so will no longer be helped by the videos.
@@LiveAbuseFree Thank you! I love your observations on the Watts case. Watching Shannan and Chris and the kids in her videos is heartbreaking. Shannon was so full of life, the kids were adorable, a son was soon to be born and Chris Watts looked about as threatening as the Easter bunny. Every single woman following this case has looked at her husband or boyfriend and wondered if he would be capable of such an atrocity.
@@LiveAbuseFree oh I think we over here in the US would LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE to see you tear apart that orange orangutang who held office. PRETTY PLEASE do Trump 🙏🏻
I don't know if he does this consciously, but he talks so much jibberish. I see so much in this mans behaviour that is totally similar with my ex, who is a covert narcissist. From facial expressions to the whole chain of events that unfolds during the last six months of their life. I see so much that reminds me of my own experience in this story. The face of CW when he rocks back and forth with his arms on his head, is totally my ex, in a situation when I calmly called him out on things he didn't believe I could see. I'm so sorry this family had to go through this horrific event, but this gave me so much understanding of my own narcissistic abuse and the behavioural patterns that goes with that. That's why I can see the coldness and the calculated goal orientation that walks over absolutely everything in their way that hinder them to move forward doing what they want I don't think we know what actually happened still, and I doubt we ever will Thank you for the videos you make! I simply love your factual take on this...
He told on him self about the hole. He said he can’t remember if it was pre dug, but the girls didn’t see him dig it. That proves premeditated among other things.
I agree with you that he planned to burn Shananns body and dump the remains in tanks with the girls, he thought they would never be found, he doesn’t seem to realise that the GPS on his truck would have lead the police to him as it also records stops, starts. I also agree that this was NOT done in anger, he was going to be seeing NK at work that Monday and was under pressure to be able to say that the separation was agreed.
Burn the body? Hmm, wouldn't that bring attention to really anyone in the vicinity? I think maybe he was anticipating fleeing. Also, it drives me crazy hearing his cracked voice, fake sniffles and crocodile tears. He's such a liar. I don't believe this story.
Also I think he DID plan to burn her body and when her plane was delayed this is why he expressed frustration in his text to her! He knew he prob wouldn’t have time to execute everything. Ugh. I don’t like feeling hatred but i do.
you are so on point with everything, he did not want to kill himself after the book notes came out, he is more scarier than thought before. You are so talented in what you do. Did you work in mental hospitals for internship? or in the jail system?? in order to have such an accurate reading on everything, besides books your knowledge cannot be theoretically only. I need someone like you to snap me out of my depression, it's been 5 years that I got divorced to a narcissist but feel destroyed inside my emotions are all over, even with therapy :( I hate writing and asking about myself under the monster
Chris is always very concerned that he do nothing that might put anyone else out or cause them any trouble. I suppose that goes along with him caring very much what others think of him. What I'm having trouble understanding is what must he believe others think of him after killing his family. It's almost as if, "yeah, I killed my family, but I don't want to do anything that might inconvenience anyone." How strange!
Isn't he just oh so altruistic? Worrying about others safety......worrying about his coworkers witnessing what he had done to his little girls......having to bring them out of the tanks. Just so considerate! No thought for his dead family though, or Shannans family, and to this day has shown no remorse and has actually made this story up to twist the knife in their guts, They should have approved the death penalty - in Saudi Arabia, where the sentence is carried out immediately - no 20 years on death row, no millions of bucks in appeals at the law abiding taxpayers expense........
Juanita Richards Isn't he though?? Let's drop our daughters in oil tanks until their skin falls off, but WATCH THAT GASOLINE! Might hurt a stranger or coworker!!! Unbelievable, this guy. He has zero feelings for anything or anyone that has to do with Shannan, ONLY apologizing to his wretched, wicked mistress and wanting to "leave her out of this." Ugh..
That's not all. He said he thinks maybe he can help people, maybe he can become some kind of prison counselor. So let's get this straight: A man who killed an expectant mother and two toddlers, armed with his bible and newfound sense of piety is now going to counsel the most hardened criminals in the country? He's going to be the shoulder to cry on for the inmates? When he says crap like that it makes me think even he buys his own mask. It also tells me that he doesn't see himself as one of them. He will tell you what he did, not without some qualifying and dissociation, but he doesn't accept the label. He'll say he killed people, but doesn't see himself as a killer. He won't judge himself that way, and he resents other people that do. He sees himself as a nice guy that just made "one mistake", not as a family murderer.
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Bizarrely, a man who murdered wife & sat her upright in the front seat was driving through my hometown and police happened to stop him and discover his crime.
His parents both said “we watched you carry them out like they were garbage” apparently so that means they were all dead when he put them in the car ( there must have been doorbell footage they saw but wasn’t shown to the public ) ... he’s chattin’ shit! Can’t believe half the things he’s saying
Good point I don’t think he ever thought about killing himself one bit! He made all those calls after, this was a man with a plan. I don’t understand how someone can lie so easily. I also think when he described How didn’t have arms pinned under his legs that is exactly what he did because she scratched him once. I only see this maybe from experience but he knows that Shanaan was going to fight for her life and baby Nico he had to disable her. I am just so sad that she was so tired and worn out by him that she didn’t just grab the girls and go. It’s so hard when your in such a state still trying to fix what we thought we had. God bless her and babies. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and deconstructions of this interview. ❤️
Another informative and well presented video. I agree with you about the children in the truck. I can only speak from my own experience. Being around a violent parent, fear and confusion is a silencer. No screaming no shouting. There’s even a fear of crying or whimpering. You want to make yourself as small and as invisible as possible. I’m still not sure if I believed be killed them in the truck.
His hesitancy answering the question if he buried her right away makes me think someone else was there to bury her while he killed the children. The hole was probably dug earlier and thats how he knows the girls did not see him do that. His lies that he didn’t start a fire there to avoid hurting anyone else also indicates that ‘he only wanted to kill his family.” Not surprisingly, another excellent analysis. Thank you!