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Analysis: Tekken - The Difference Between 2D and 3D 

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A comparison of 2d and 3d fighting games.
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BGM in order:
Tekken 6 - Mystical Forest
Tekken 5 - Moonlit Wilderness
Tekken 4 - Authentic Sky
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Eternal Paradise
Tekken 7 - Metallic Experience 1st

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@CoreAGaming
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@ToastyYokai
@ToastyYokai 6 лет назад
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@Dark0niro
@Dark0niro 6 лет назад
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@andregomesdeoliveira9653
@andregomesdeoliveira9653 6 лет назад
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@Lambkin-_-
@Lambkin-_- 4 года назад
yesterday i saw a final fantasy character fight a street fighter character on a walking dead stage in a Tekken game.
@Duisburg051
@Duisburg051 4 года назад
Probably was a M.U.G.E.N game. ^^
@gliath888
@gliath888 4 года назад
@ Violator r/whoosh (fyi, what he said was Noctis fighting Akuma on Negans guest stage in Tekken 7. lol )
@Duisburg051
@Duisburg051 4 года назад
@@gliath888 Thanks for calrifying. Still sounds like a MUGEN game tho. ^^
@tmcttf8087
@tmcttf8087 4 года назад
Tekken is now just a dumping site for guest characters at the moment. It's sad.
@jw5931
@jw5931 4 года назад
@@tmcttf8087 he says as we get a season full of no guests lol
@guillermo9171
@guillermo9171 6 лет назад
"He also got nerfed a lot" the comedic timing was priceless
@leovuitton9117
@leovuitton9117 5 лет назад
I don't think that was a joke just an extra footnote
@keltzar1
@keltzar1 5 лет назад
@@leovuitton9117 can't it be both?
@annas409
@annas409 4 года назад
Season 3 Akuma want's to have a word with you.
@RedBull78hero
@RedBull78hero 4 года назад
@@keltzar1 no
@ViperDivinity
@ViperDivinity 3 года назад
@LiL Speng yeah but still launch punish you just beacuse Akuma jump on your lows isn't balanced.
@hiddenking8087
@hiddenking8087 2 года назад
Hey, you know what would be interesting? Covering Kazuya in Smash after he comes out and examining his jump from 3D to 2D and how Smash changes him compared to, say, Street Fighter vs. Tekken.
@dspr584
@dspr584 2 года назад
this.
@hiddenking8087
@hiddenking8087 2 года назад
@@dspr584 what do you mean? Please elaborate.
@JayAreAitch
@JayAreAitch 2 года назад
@@hiddenking8087 are you ok? He was just agreeing with you.
@hiddenking8087
@hiddenking8087 2 года назад
@@JayAreAitch sorry, I just didnt understand. My brain is pretty wierd and doesn't tell me things sometimes
@NickvanaOfficial
@NickvanaOfficial 2 года назад
@@JayAreAitch I don’t think he meant that in a bad way, don’t know why you’re getting all defensive
@doot5292
@doot5292 6 лет назад
I hate this with hellboy in injustice 2. Its the RIGHT hand of doom, its now on the left hand... And now its on the right hand again.
@Warm_Ice0
@Warm_Ice0 4 года назад
The ambidextrous arm of doom 😂
@camelvids10
@camelvids10 4 года назад
I’m pretty sure injustice has a stance change button
@e.n8461
@e.n8461 4 года назад
But injustice 2 uses 3D models
@Akay4444444444444444
@Akay4444444444444444 3 года назад
@@e.n8461 And it's still a 2D game, meaning that you gotta flip stuff that has hit and hurtboxes otherwise attacks will start having different properties facing left or right.
@ShroudedNinja
@ShroudedNinja 6 лет назад
I want to see Ryu from super smash brothers.
@juanrodriguez9971
@juanrodriguez9971 4 года назад
@@itskmjsoo You didnt understand the joke, isnt it?
@djoshawott2850
@djoshawott2850 4 года назад
He’s not from Smash, he’s from Ninja Gaiden.
@WhyTrashEarth
@WhyTrashEarth 4 года назад
Isn't Ryu that muscular blonde fella that says he chews bubblegum and kicks ass? But he's always out of bubblegum... I like that fella I tell you hwhat.
@highradicals
@highradicals 4 года назад
I too wanna see ryu hayabusa from ninja gaiden.
@Rex-golf_player810
@Rex-golf_player810 4 года назад
@@itskmjsoo wooosh
@Shadow_STK
@Shadow_STK 6 лет назад
After Noctis, Harada should just throw in Ultra Instinct Shaggy and call it a day
@gamebalk
@gamebalk 6 лет назад
EMAIL HARADA
@DWN-024ShadowMan
@DWN-024ShadowMan 6 лет назад
Shadow [TK] Videl?
@Ivight
@Ivight 6 лет назад
Mr Satan would make a great addition lol
@ReeceHoward06
@ReeceHoward06 6 лет назад
Probably from original Dragonball, I think that would work alot better than trying to balance a straight up Super Saiyan in the game.
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 6 лет назад
Dark Zero Yes! Or even Hercule, that would be glorious to see.
@DamnZodiak
@DamnZodiak 3 года назад
I absolutely adore the fact that, the more I learn about fighting games, they closer a lot of the concepts map onto my life-long obsession with martial arts. Real life fighting and fighting games are so much alike when you break it down, it is truly fascinating.
@dizzydial8081
@dizzydial8081 3 года назад
Mind giving an example?
@eugenecheong7066
@eugenecheong7066 Месяц назад
@@dizzydial8081I think he’s referring to stuff like spacing, timing, environmental awareness, etc…
@NoneRain_
@NoneRain_ 5 лет назад
I love 2D games for the art style. But Tekken is the king of 3D fighting.
@personaphantom5543
@personaphantom5543 4 года назад
So is Soulcalibur but then again it's made by the same people as Tekken. Namco is the king of the 3D fighters.
@burni988
@burni988 4 года назад
I wish soulcalibur 6 had more single player content since the online ranked system is not as engaging as tekken's
@xXxXkuramaxXx
@xXxXkuramaxXx 3 года назад
*Dead or Alive
@chiarosuburekeni9325
@chiarosuburekeni9325 2 года назад
@@xXxXkuramaxXx lmfao. Yeah that lame ass rock paper scissors counter system REALLY makes for great gameplay 🙄 Oh and the giant watermelon breast physics. 🙄
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 2 года назад
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 bOoBs BaD
@jugemujugemu4690
@jugemujugemu4690 6 лет назад
Wow, this is funny because I recently just rewatched all your analyses yesterday. It's a scary thing at first, but with the quality of your content, I've no doubt you can make a living with you videos.
@mallows9779
@mallows9779 5 лет назад
Seeing JDCR scream in hype makes me remember he isn't a robo lmao
@buff00n3ry
@buff00n3ry 2 года назад
This video became significantly more interesting now that Kazuya's in Smash Bros.
@YassineTorchani-dc2cm
@YassineTorchani-dc2cm 7 месяцев назад
Next we need Yoshimitsu to join Smash too
@michaelchen9705
@michaelchen9705 3 месяца назад
Why
@RedSoul001
@RedSoul001 6 лет назад
Kiryu Kazuma from the Yakuza series would fit right into Tekken. I honestly think that Noctis would be a much better fit for Soul Calibur.
@virtuainsider2964
@virtuainsider2964 5 лет назад
@SEGA_OFFICIAL characters Kazuma Kiryu/Goro Majima are reserved for the upcoming Virtua Fighter 6 along with Segata Sanshiro, Streets of Rage characters, Shenmue characters, Shinobi characters and Judgement characters. They'll be part of a shared universe. The SEGA-verse.
@jomerbongalos2065
@jomerbongalos2065 5 лет назад
@@virtuainsider2964 i just wish they release a virtua fighter for pc
@jameswork-grierson8923
@jameswork-grierson8923 5 лет назад
Don't plug the boy band into my fighter!!!
@Intellyellthismyoldchannel
@Intellyellthismyoldchannel 4 года назад
2B which is already a Square representative is already in Soul Calibur.
@Mr.Smiley_J
@Mr.Smiley_J 4 года назад
@@virtuainsider2964 what? Segata Sanshiro!?
@PaeroPwns
@PaeroPwns 6 лет назад
I always wrote off Tekken, I was never interested in it at all and always preferred Street Fighter. After the shit show that was SFV I decided to give Tekken 7 a go when it released, and Im blown away at how much I enjoy it. Getting the movement down is so satisfying (I have about 70 hours in the game and I'm just beginning to be able to pull off KBDs consistently in real matches) and all of the combos feel so fun to do. Never thought I'd be a Tekken fan but here I am.
@darkslowbro4156
@darkslowbro4156 6 лет назад
PaeroPwns that's awesome dude tekken is such a great fighting franchise. Depth and so much to learn and satisfying to pull off. Out of curiosity who do you play?
@PaeroPwns
@PaeroPwns 6 лет назад
Toxic Apocalypse I've put most of my hours into Lili, but I'm in a bit of a tricky situation with her. I have no problems doing her combos but I feel most things I hit are out of blind luck, and wouldn't really work if I played her at a higher level (stuff like her snake Edge, ff2 and her df3+4) whereas I picked up Dragunov recently and it seems like my playstyle is just more solid as him. I know he's top tier, and on top of that I've heard he's really idiot friendly so I'm sure that helps. Just feels off because the trickiest combos I know as Lili do damage in the early 60s, whereas Drag it seems can easily get damage in the late 60s on top of having things like wr2, d2 and df1 which are super easy to hit in the neutral game.
@darkslowbro4156
@darkslowbro4156 6 лет назад
PaeroPwns I can't tell you much about lili other than she has a lot of unsafe moves and a smart opponent will be able to sidestep punish a lot of her stuff so you have to play her carefully, there's a video on aris' channel somewhat recent he plays a long set against a lili player who plays so well which is rare. If I played lili I'd take notes from that video. But yeah db4 ff2 are launch punishable so use sparingly or not at all
@darkslowbro4156
@darkslowbro4156 6 лет назад
PaeroPwns dragunov I know better, not saying much because in this game he's basically just d2 wr2. Other moves in recommend are uf4 df1 b1+2 other moves are situational
@tricksalot2
@tricksalot2 6 лет назад
Says he hates sfv then plays lili.
@TheForhekset
@TheForhekset 6 лет назад
I wish there were more 3d fighters. I really love tekken and Doa, I wish more companies would create 3d fighters. It seems namco is the only company interested in continuing their franchises. And Virtua fighter and Doa don't seem to be coming back any time soon.
@spacewargamer4181
@spacewargamer4181 3 года назад
Maybe Virtua Fighters returns after all
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 11 месяцев назад
After DoA 6, I do not see the series having a bright future. Tekken really feels as if it is the last, major 3D fighter.
@Maxler5795
@Maxler5795 11 месяцев назад
Fun fact: originally in SF2, Guile only had 1 USA flag tattoo. But people thought there were 2 because of the flipping thing
@Sonchance
@Sonchance 6 лет назад
Best fighting game channel on youtube. Simple.
@rmn0019
@rmn0019 6 лет назад
Sonchance sadly is too focuse in sfv. Wish had more KOF, Tekken or Injustice
@Peacanator1228
@Peacanator1228 6 лет назад
Roma Empire I think that SF is the BnB fighting game imo and it's kind of expected that he focuses more on it than other games. I play Melee and GG and I think that it's fair for the most part.
@nooostop4664
@nooostop4664 6 лет назад
I like more maximillian dood
@pabloarranz3626
@pabloarranz3626 6 лет назад
I don't even play fighting games and I love this channel
@One3673241
@One3673241 6 лет назад
I wish it had more Urban Reign (Yes, it's a fighting game; detractors fuck off).
@TrellScales
@TrellScales 6 лет назад
Lol. Thanks for using my combo on twitter.
@Cal-nm1pc
@Cal-nm1pc 6 лет назад
Trell Scales which one was it?
@TrellScales
@TrellScales 6 лет назад
The one at 7:07
@kayosensei
@kayosensei 6 лет назад
Its dope btw xD
@VaretyrSpear
@VaretyrSpear 6 лет назад
That was SICK
@NeoAnguiano
@NeoAnguiano 2 года назад
7:36 Sakurai: Challenge accepted
@sweetierpotato5913
@sweetierpotato5913 2 года назад
Lmao, no. Kazuya in smash is so fundamentally different compare to tekken. You can’t sidestep, low parry, and other stuff that tekken have compare to smash.
@Altraduck25
@Altraduck25 2 года назад
@@sweetierpotato5913 Sakurai did talk about how smash and tekken are fundamentally different, and most of the stuff that's missing is because it exists to counter stuff that isn't in the game or overlaps with abilities that are universal in smash. For example, spot dodging fills the same role as sidestepping, or as close as you can get in a 2d game (even the animations show this)
@franciscofarias7593
@franciscofarias7593 2 года назад
Steve from minecraft
@leonardmcdougall8477
@leonardmcdougall8477 6 лет назад
It's always good to hear the moonlit wilderness soundtrack
@funakiexpressV2
@funakiexpressV2 6 лет назад
one of the best tekken tracks of all time
@leonardmcdougall8477
@leonardmcdougall8477 6 лет назад
Yeah definitely, I also love electric fountain!
@nhall129
@nhall129 6 лет назад
New Core A??? And Tekken?! Perfect!
@Deep_wolf
@Deep_wolf 6 лет назад
P E R F E C T
@GR-rj6qo
@GR-rj6qo 6 лет назад
EXCELLENT
@Syntheric01
@Syntheric01 6 лет назад
I’d like to see Solid Snake in Tekken 7, a man can dream
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 6 лет назад
Miki Big Boss, bro. Big. Boss. Hell, even The Boss herself.
@JohnSmith-co1zv
@JohnSmith-co1zv 6 лет назад
Nah man, it's been almost 10 years since we last saw Solid, Solid Snake all the way.
@sinshenlong
@sinshenlong 6 лет назад
dragonov comes really close to what cqc would be like in a tekken game though
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 6 лет назад
You can always customize Sergei Dragunov to look like Solid Snake.
@DarkShisune
@DarkShisune 6 лет назад
or have some Solid Snake (Dragunov) fight Wesker (Geese) via customizables.
@yunaka_gaming
@yunaka_gaming 4 года назад
I love Pokken's approach. 2d? 3d? Nah lets just do both lmao
@nachofernandezcomics5238
@nachofernandezcomics5238 6 лет назад
First time I saw a real 3D fighting game was Soul Calibur on my Dreamcast. There I noticed how the character fighting stances were not simply mirrored. Really awesome and realistic! Next one was Dead or Alive 2 where not only the characters and stages were 3D environments. They even got advantage of the stage space, throwing their opponents downside or breaking through windows or walls. At that point DOA was the first game to allow that, while Tekken 3 just used false 3D stages. That jump from 32 to 128 bits was awesome.
@DeNice1776
@DeNice1776 6 лет назад
Nice to know that my gaming footage could be used for yet another documentary video (despite it not being all that serious play and all...). I enjoyed hearing your subject matter and watching this video. Was quite interesting indeed.
@rocknops
@rocknops 6 лет назад
Z
@Sageboy13
@Sageboy13 6 лет назад
What part?
@blvk3
@blvk3 6 лет назад
@3:25 Oro didn't lose any limbs. He just hide an arm to even the playing field cos he thinks he's one of the best fight ever exist. When he switches side there are a few animation frames showing him switches arm, and he also uses both arms in some of his ex-super moves.
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 3 года назад
Same thing with Vega(Claw)! If you look close as he jumps over he switches his claw to the other hand!😅
@ashtar3876
@ashtar3876 3 года назад
I guess it makes sense cause he has the cloth over him
@ashtar3876
@ashtar3876 3 года назад
@@KickyFut idk if they said that was the reason for it, but vega certainly is someone who thinks he's the best
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 3 года назад
@@ashtar3876 I mean, it's a fighting game so technically *everyone* thinks they're the best!
@ashtar3876
@ashtar3876 3 года назад
@@KickyFut i mean like he's already obsessed with himself
@raphaelcalado4335
@raphaelcalado4335 6 лет назад
Man, this channel is really amazing, I've been playing games for 24 years or more, with as many years of Street Fighter and Tekken experience, even though I find myself learning a lot with each of your videos! Thx a lot and keep the great work!
@kuraiwolf4047
@kuraiwolf4047 5 лет назад
I will always prefer 3d to 2d. Couple of my favourites are Soulcalibur and Bloody Roar.
@m.a9981
@m.a9981 6 лет назад
Gerald, my friend, I just wanted to say that these professional in-depth looks at fighting games both in and outside the screen are much appreciated, and are seldom rivaled anywhere else keep on keeping on!
@CoreAGaming
@CoreAGaming 6 лет назад
Blue Radon Cool, I'm glad they helped you out.
@TJK10
@TJK10 6 лет назад
The time has come, and so have I.
@SoukaDeezNutz
@SoukaDeezNutz 6 лет назад
In the name of the Lord, we come.
@Cunt143
@Cunt143 6 лет назад
My honoured brethren...
@sofaking9404
@sofaking9404 6 лет назад
I LAUGH LAUGH CUZ YOU CAME TO DIE, no but I am really hoping for Dante in soulcalibur
@Unit-3D
@Unit-3D 6 лет назад
With Devil May Cry 5 being leaked, I'd almost expect Dante to make a guest appearance to hype it up, though I couldn't guess where.
@Cunt143
@Cunt143 6 лет назад
MVCI is kind of a competitor to Soul Calibur in a way so I doubt Dante will be in
@MHFUEvO
@MHFUEvO 6 лет назад
I just found your channel and I have to say, YOU ARE AMAZING!!! I can't recall the last time I had so much fun listening to informative videos like this! Keep up the good work and marry Christmas
@kcorac
@kcorac 5 лет назад
Thanks for these videos man. They have reignited my love for the fighting games genre. It's been a while since I've played them casually when I was a little kid and fighting games (Street Fighter especially) were some of the first I tried and now I'd like to play them "seriously" and be able to enjoy all the depth and complexity thanks to your insight. Again, thanks and keep making it great!
@BurnoutFighter
@BurnoutFighter 6 лет назад
Scared the crap out of me when I heard my voice lol. You got me this time Gerald :P
@CoreAGaming
@CoreAGaming 6 лет назад
Burnout Fighter It was all according to plan.
@minusexp.4857
@minusexp.4857 6 лет назад
Core-A Gaming TN: Plan means Keikaku
@Kelohmello
@Kelohmello 6 лет назад
I want to see Kazuma Kiryu(from Yakuza) in Tekken. I NEED that.
@virtuainsider2964
@virtuainsider2964 5 лет назад
@SEGA_OFFICIAL characters Kazuma Kiryu/Goro Majima are reserved for the upcoming Virtua Fighter 6 along with Segata Sanshiro, Streets of Rage characters, Shenmue characters, Shinobi characters and Judgement characters. They'll be part of a shared universe. The SEGA-verse.
@Sophie_the_Sapphic
@Sophie_the_Sapphic 5 лет назад
@@virtuainsider2964 the Preducer of yakuza has said they are open to the idea of kiryu in tekken, and that it's up to namco, if they want him in tekken.
@marcusson9025
@marcusson9025 5 лет назад
@@Sophie_the_Sapphic then harada for love of all things fighting games, make it happen!
@equinox-XVI
@equinox-XVI 4 года назад
Ah, Tekken 4, the nostalgia. Hard to believe I used to play this game almost non stop. Not gonna lie, I kinda miss the uneven terrain now. It really made the environment feel more real. Instead of maps being limited to areas you would expect to be flat, they could really expand their map choice to a bunch of unique locations. I cant even count the number of times my brother and I fought in the mall. Favorite stage by FAR.
@ShoRyuBarbie
@ShoRyuBarbie 6 лет назад
I love your videos so much. So many great editing choices too, like when you talk about the FG Renaissance in the 90's and use footage from Streetfighter: The Movie.
@Goomageddon
@Goomageddon 6 лет назад
YES!!! You're back! This channel convinced me to play fighting games again. The content you provide could honestly the framework of a great Fighting Game Design class at a university. Keep up the awesome content!
@yogicore
@yogicore 6 лет назад
I'm exclusively a Smash player, but watching these kinds of videos helps me better understand the rest of the and what these games really entail. I'm a fan of watching a lot more fighting games after being introduced to channels like yours. keep up the good work
@thelastgogeta
@thelastgogeta 6 лет назад
I'm fairly similar though I have dabbled into SF3+4, some indie fighters (Yatagarasu to name one) and licensed games (Naruto Clash of Ninja to name one). CoreA is really great at increasing the understanding of the genre in general and seems able to make people appreciate others in the subgenre which they might just overlook.
@processingh588
@processingh588 6 лет назад
Fuckin smash players
@tobi1557
@tobi1557 6 лет назад
Don't pay attention to theses guys. They are mad because platform fighters are becoming more and more popular and will replace their favorite game at EVO.
@jugemujugemu4690
@jugemujugemu4690 6 лет назад
Tobi see, you were good at first, than you went granular out of dumb spite.
@legendredux1291
@legendredux1291 6 лет назад
Smash is not a fighting game.
@curlytops01
@curlytops01 6 лет назад
I absolutely love this channel. So much thought and creativity put into the writing. Keep up the amazing work
@tek212111
@tek212111 6 лет назад
I think Tifa would have made more sense than Noctis
@funakiexpressV2
@funakiexpressV2 6 лет назад
True, Tifa would still be hype
@MrTBSC
@MrTBSC 5 лет назад
old post but: ... xell dincht ...
@Kindred_Lamb
@Kindred_Lamb 4 года назад
Why not have both of them instead
@miaouew
@miaouew 3 года назад
Only problem with Tifa is she has two gigantic targets naturally built in
@user-ec7fh9sp3h
@user-ec7fh9sp3h 3 года назад
@@miaouew has the largest hitbox in the torso area which is very prone for poking tactics.
@AnthanKrufix
@AnthanKrufix 6 лет назад
Meanwhile Pokken Tournament is weird, it switches between Arena fighter (ala: Dissidea or Naruto), and standard 2D fighter (Street Fighter, Killer instinct, etc.) for what is most of the time the main brunt of the fighting. Allowing characters to tack on damage and/or get good (or bad if the opponent plays it better) positional advantage before the 2D part sets in.
@thelastgogeta
@thelastgogeta 6 лет назад
That is definitely worth considering as well. Just like how Street Fighter had proximity normals, some games actually change beyond that like Pokken and I think Dragon Ball Legends. Even the Budokai Tenkaichi games put restrictions on movement when you get close even if they aren't Pokken big.
@zhaoyun255
@zhaoyun255 6 лет назад
I think the more interesting analysis would be for the Gundam Vs series as the most popular Arena Fighter in JP for 15 years now. You can say that Gundam Vs was the SF2 of the arena fighters (Though Virtual On did it first before Gundam and I would consider Virtual On to be the Good SF1 of the arena fighters). Bamco and Techno really took a lot of the mechanic from Gundam and Virtual On to make the offspring like Pokken, Dissidia and Naruto.
@thelastgogeta
@thelastgogeta 6 лет назад
I'm not sure how comparable Pokken is to Gundam Vs (which doesn't just owe Virtual On but also Gotcha Force which had the same director and dev team as Gundam Vs I believe). I do think that more analysis for arena fighters is warranted though. I greatly enjoyed the Budokai Tenkaichi series which took a good deal of influence.
@zhaoyun255
@zhaoyun255 6 лет назад
+thelastgogeta IIRC, each iteration of Gundam VS got different team but still maintain the core gameplay but with different style. Like GvG and Gundam vs Gundam Next Plus was actually developed by Capcom and Extreme vs series had different team compared to the current Vs. Also, the very first Gundam vs was Federation vs Zeon which preceded Gotcha Force 2 years prior to its first release.
@thelastgogeta
@thelastgogeta 6 лет назад
zhaoyun255 You aren't wrong about the varying development teams but at the start it was led by Capcom and Atsushi Tomita, who were in charge of Federation vs Zeon, Gotcha Force and all Gundam Vs games prior to the PS3/PS4 installments (and their arcade counterparts) - Bandai Namco did them in house. I obviously can't credit Gotcha Force for inspiring them to make Gundam Vs completely, but I'm sure that it influenced Tomita and other staff in future games and the resemblance is striking even now. I'm sure I could itemise mechanics, modes and concepts which eventually got adopted but at least we are on the same page now.
@gab_gallard
@gab_gallard 6 лет назад
Kazuma Kiryu. It needs to happen.
@ViperDivinity
@ViperDivinity 3 года назад
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@yeeaahh8863
@yeeaahh8863 3 года назад
This. This is the character I want most in Tekken 7.
@gab_gallard
@gab_gallard 3 года назад
@Sharad Kumar Singh My hours and hours going around Kamurocho just searching for punks in which I can pulverize a bicycle disagree. You also have the Coliseum tournaments in which Kiryu goes and fights for a profit. Also, I don't think most of the characters in Tekken are fighting for fun. They always have a backstory, and Kiryu can have one too!
@BloodKitten_
@BloodKitten_ 3 года назад
why not majima too? also while i would love it, the yakuza creator don't want kiryu to hit women, so unless he is fine if it isent canon like tekken crossover, it wouldent happen.... unless they swap him for majima and they both have the same moves when fighting a female character.... assuming that would be fine.
@JayAreAitch
@JayAreAitch 2 года назад
@Sharad Kumar Singh Did you miss his whole speech in 5 where he acknowledges that he has a propensity for violence?
@patricklorran1960
@patricklorran1960 6 лет назад
So good to come back to this channel and see that you guys uploaded something new recently
@rambot670
@rambot670 5 лет назад
Fantastic review , quality and editing. Cannot believe that RU-vid took so much time to put this channel on my recommendation list. Instant sub.
@cosmic5368
@cosmic5368 6 лет назад
I HIGHLY recommend that you all pick up Tekken 7 and invest some time into it. Tekken is on the come up.
@KoylTrane
@KoylTrane 6 лет назад
3d fighters are too complex for my taste. Too many moves, too many mechanics.
@cosmic5368
@cosmic5368 6 лет назад
KoylTrane it way more simpler than it appears. Most of the Cast in Tekken has LESS than 100 move & even for the ones that do, MOST of those moves are just different variations of the same 5 it so strings that they have. The Other mechanics in Tekken work similarly to other fighting games.
@DDRjason
@DDRjason 6 лет назад
KoylTrane I use to have the same mentality when I first picked up Tekken Tag on PS2. I got into it more cause I see others in the arcade playing and saw how much they enjoyed it. So me and my brother picked 1 character that appealed to us (I choose Baek/Lei & my brother choose Xiaoyu/Jin). We practice for hours memorizing moves and combo. I think I got better when i versed other players and getting my ass kicked and seeing their playstyle.
@sewhole1386
@sewhole1386 4 года назад
@@KoylTrane I mean, Tekken characters might have, like, 100 moves each but most characters just use 20. For example, Kazuya has his uf+4,4,4,4 but no one really uses it, however everyone uses EWGFS for Kazuya.
@MrTBSC
@MrTBSC 4 года назад
@@KoylTrane old post but ... dead or alive being a 3d fighter is fairly simple ... it doesn´t have the redicoulous strings and combos tekken has ..
@Hlidskialf
@Hlidskialf 6 лет назад
Im a simple man, i see core-A new video i like
@tjbnable
@tjbnable 6 лет назад
I wanna see captain falcon in street fighter
@inf_5612
@inf_5612 3 года назад
His ultra wouod be falcon punch then lol
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah 3 года назад
No, just no
@MrJones-om3vw
@MrJones-om3vw 5 лет назад
Hey man great video! I really do appreciate that details & explaination. Now I know the difference from “2D to 3D”. You’ve ben very helpful indeed, sir. Hopefully it’s more videos to come? But keep up the good work!💯
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 6 лет назад
Tekken 7 is the one that got me into Tekken big time. I think I was too young to really "get it." But also a lot of videos really helped. This made me go back and play older Tekkens and the character I think is most sorely missing from Tekken 7 that I've always liked is Lei. I'm not the only one either. He seems like a core Tekken character like Hwoarang, Eddy Gordo and Mishimas. Another character that I think should be in the game (but I haven't played him much yet) is Marduk. These archetypal fighting styles I think are what make Tekken games hype. I like the new characters but it feels a bit weird to have staples missing.
@georgewest276
@georgewest276 6 лет назад
hiverhythm lei wulong is the perfect showcase of a 3d fighting game character his movement and stance switch abilities make him stand out
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 6 лет назад
Agree. He is kind of like Steve Fox with the stance switching but more complicated (Steve has two stances, Lei has 7 not including back turn and ground forms) and with some good 50\50 mix ups plus some ground techniques like Eddy. His combos are incredibly fun when you're mixing up stances. He is a great showcase for Tekken making use of the fundamental system in a way that makes sense (because he's Jackie Chan.) It's a mystery why they didn't include him but I suspect that it has to do with fighting him. If people complain about Eddy Gordo, they would complain doubly so about Lei who auto-parries different stuff in difference stances, has a snake edge type move, likes to drop on the ground etc. People have called him a "gimmicky" character. But that's just my theory. Designing a game like T7 is probably no walk in the park and perhaps they weren't sure what direction to take him with armor moves\super age drive.
@ForceofNature99
@ForceofNature99 6 лет назад
Namco didn't Include Lei or Marduk because they're not popular enough and the game already had 36 character from the get go (it's up to 38 now).
@dextrodemon
@dextrodemon 6 лет назад
lei is a bit weird, you'd expect him. gigas has some of marduk's moves so i don't think you'll see him.
@supersaltlee7657
@supersaltlee7657 6 лет назад
Gigas is marduk
@xXTheRoyalTurkXx
@xXTheRoyalTurkXx 6 лет назад
I love both games, and 2D and 3D really feels different! When I switch games from time to time, I have a hard time getting used to swapping from say Tekken to something like SFV, even if you play Akuma on both games!
@MegaTroySmith
@MegaTroySmith 6 лет назад
xXTheRoyalTurkXx meh, it's easy for me to switch between the 2.
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy 5 лет назад
Very interesting !.. I didn't realize the difference between 2D and 3D fighters.. nor the fact that they kept such mechanics despite being in tekken (for akuma, etc)
@donlee_ohhh
@donlee_ohhh 6 лет назад
Great analysis. Best of luck going full time with the channel in the future.
@Jaybaybay2838
@Jaybaybay2838 6 лет назад
I just want Namco's Tekken Vs Street Fighter game. Or Tekken vs King of Fighters... Tekken vs Street Fighter vs King of Fighters Made by ArcSys
@ironicphailure7638
@ironicphailure7638 6 лет назад
Christian Rodriguez tekken vs streetfighter vs king of fighters vs dead or alive pls :3
@kato093
@kato093 6 лет назад
Christian Rodriguez i just want a tekken game thats finally balanced . So fuck eliza, akuma, geese and 2d bullshit
@sebastiancartes9774
@sebastiancartes9774 6 лет назад
Christian Rodriguez tekken cross tag battle
@Jaybaybay2838
@Jaybaybay2838 6 лет назад
Sebastián Cartes perfect!
@jugemujugemu4690
@jugemujugemu4690 6 лет назад
kato093 it's the most balanced Tekken since 5DR, what are you smoking?
@CyberXShinobi
@CyberXShinobi 6 лет назад
Really want to see Saber from Fate series added to Soul Calibur 6! Excalibur vs Soul Edge!
@spiffythealien
@spiffythealien 6 лет назад
Technically Soulcalibur WAS Excalibur so that already happened in canon.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope 6 лет назад
Ah! yes the fate series... I don't think i could beat up on Saber though.
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 6 лет назад
I'm just wondering what she'd look like in Soul Calibur's more realistic art style.
@haydenhyde9395
@haydenhyde9395 6 лет назад
CyberShinobi Play Nitroplus Blasterz. It isn't a looker, but Saber couldn't play more perfectly.
@ShiningSpear
@ShiningSpear 6 лет назад
Chris Chen probably a lot like Sophitia
@TheSteinbitt
@TheSteinbitt 6 лет назад
Man your videos are so smart, the references, the game knowledge, the pop culture knowledge, the editing, the sound, the visuals, everything is top notch. You outperform even larger media outlets, I cant believe someone didn't already scoop you up. Anyhow, thank you for the excellent content!
@themustardthe
@themustardthe 5 лет назад
8:43 I just want more bears.
@_Adie
@_Adie 6 лет назад
Kiryu, Lei, and Tekken 7 is pretty much perfect. Oh, and Odeum of Illussions. We can't forget about that stage.
@MaskedGuyCh
@MaskedGuyCh 6 лет назад
That Tekken 6 soundtrack though. Mystical Forest is one of my favorite video game soundtracks.
@mugetsugl4179
@mugetsugl4179 6 лет назад
Masked Guy Electric Fountain is the most epic Soundtrack in T6 though
@ClownAl3n
@ClownAl3n 6 лет назад
I wish you made more content/videos like these. The content/video is Very informative and a good way for people learn new things that we had no clue about.
@stockicide
@stockicide 6 лет назад
Great video as usual, good luck taking the channel full-time.
@williamxavier3856
@williamxavier3856 4 года назад
Material de uma qualidade monstruosa, e legendado e pt br , parabéns nunca nem algo que chegue perto a nivel de materiaç aqui no Brasil 😱
@jaku9329
@jaku9329 6 лет назад
How about The Dragon of Dojima, Kiryu Kazama for Tekken 7?
@brianworden7022
@brianworden7022 5 лет назад
He would of made more sense than that guy from The Walking Dead.
@umeshkhanna4896
@umeshkhanna4896 5 лет назад
A long time fighting game player (KOF). Just subscribed love this channel for so in depth analysis.
@DesVoador
@DesVoador 6 лет назад
Amazing as always man, keep up the good work!
@gangofheroes
@gangofheroes 6 лет назад
I think this is why Tekken is my favorite fighting game franchise.
@GrantWitherspoon
@GrantWitherspoon 6 лет назад
Gang of Heroes can you play it with a stick?
@gamwpanagia
@gamwpanagia 6 лет назад
Me near, okay? Of course, it's best played with a stick
@1000aaronaaronaaron
@1000aaronaaronaaron 6 лет назад
Me near, okay? That's just a gay thing to say.
@TheShadowofDormin
@TheShadowofDormin 5 лет назад
I stopped playing Tekken because of Tekken 4 and it was because of how cheap it could be and because it is the only game that ever made me break a controller, it was in single player even and I have almost no temper
@json_n
@json_n 5 лет назад
TheShadowofDormin just get gud
@personaphantom5543
@personaphantom5543 4 года назад
Tekken 3, Tekken 7, Soulcalibur (Dreamcast), Soulcalibur II and Virtua Fighter 5 are hands down the best and most influential 3D fighting games ever made.
@mackstertube
@mackstertube 5 лет назад
I am not good at fighters but your channel is one of the best on RU-vid, no joke. It is so interesting. I can't wait for MK 11 and have night a fight stick on anticipation so I can practice. Your channel has given me the enthusiasm to get into fighting games more than I have before.
@TGregers
@TGregers 6 лет назад
Man I got hype when I saw a new Core-A video was up. Become such a big fan of this channel.
@GuerrillaHotline
@GuerrillaHotline 6 лет назад
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate JDCR's reaction to Geese's reveal at 8:27
@PotatoAsh
@PotatoAsh 6 лет назад
I indeed just want some old characters back. Preferably, Lei, Anna, Julia and probably Armor King. Since there are 4 more slot spaces left after noctis is out, I these characters would be great additions.
@marcosaugusto5075
@marcosaugusto5075 6 лет назад
Something tells me there are still new original characters to be introduced to Tekken 7. I think they gonna add legacy characters in Season 03 with more goodies for fans and the roster will probably ended up being 50 to 60 characters, because we have a lot of time until Tekken 8.
@jjsprite20
@jjsprite20 6 лет назад
thinking the same thing since Harada said he wont charge DLC for original Characters.
@kodaiyoung
@kodaiyoung 6 лет назад
Your videos are always awesome ones. Good Job.
@araknair9605
@araknair9605 6 лет назад
Really glad to see a new video, always informative and entertaining. I hope we get Lei and Julia soon, they were some of the first characters I played.
@achraf8694
@achraf8694 4 года назад
there you go
@36inc
@36inc 6 лет назад
imo Tekken 7 is the best fighting game currently going. If I had to bring anyone in from a different 2d fighter- Sol Badguy from guilty gear. honestly I also like a bunch of the setup fighters in Blazblu like Rachel and Kokonoe that wouldnt be bad either but I dont think theyd get much hype from them
@jinchuriki7022
@jinchuriki7022 6 лет назад
Rose Erin if you want a challenge on ps4 add me. Jinchuriki702
@Valigarmanda
@Valigarmanda 4 года назад
Heavy Day starts to play whenever you KO someone with a rage art *[DESTROYED]*
@johnbao444
@johnbao444 2 года назад
And now we have Kazuya in Smash. Will you do another video of 3D to 2.5D?
@davetorres3906
@davetorres3906 6 лет назад
Thank you for the outstanding content as always, keep it up !
@ianlove4031
@ianlove4031 6 лет назад
As a big fan of these analysis videos, I'm curious: Do you plan to do more analysis on specific franchises or do you think it will stay dominantly on generally applicable fighting game concepts? Either way, I love these videos.
@josemiguelsandybejarano7885
@josemiguelsandybejarano7885 4 года назад
Remember when you can sidestep the mishimas? :')
@ceciliaxx
@ceciliaxx 4 года назад
It's backkk
@axellyann5085
@axellyann5085 3 года назад
@@ceciliaxx No isnt. Mishimas with so much tracking nowadays (even with the infamous hell sweep returning to normal). But isnt only a mishima problem to be honest.
@ELIASFA3
@ELIASFA3 4 года назад
7:30 imagine how they feel now
@ashtar3876
@ashtar3876 3 года назад
They already said it though "At first it was controversial, but now we've figured out akuma to a certain extent. He also got nerfed a lot."
@mmmk6322
@mmmk6322 2 года назад
@@ashtar3876 here 6 months later, Pakistan still bans akuma from tournament and everyone agree that he got nerfed alot and is still the indisputed strongest character in the game. Akuma is the only character from the launch of the game that recieved only nerfs, and these nerfs were nothing to scoff at, and despite that, he still resides in a tier of his own, s+, marginally stronger than the top four after him (Julia, Fhak, Deviljin and Jin).
@MilaNumber14
@MilaNumber14 6 лет назад
First off, it makes me smile to hear Tekken soundtrack in your videos and I hope you keep at it. Second, I really want Kiryu or Majima from the Yakuza series as guest characters. I was surprised to see Noctis as guest character but I immediately fell in love when I saw his gameplay. I guess I'm one of the people who look forward to him as I played and enjoyed FFXV.
@TheJegan94
@TheJegan94 5 лет назад
First console i owned was a PS1 back in 98, and my first game on it was tekken 3, i will never forget how it blew my mind back then. You made me soooo nostalgic man!
@Findarto7
@Findarto7 6 лет назад
2:49 Huh, I never noticed Vega switching the claw himself in SF5; thought it just magically teleported like in the older games.
@monokle3017
@monokle3017 6 лет назад
Kiryu we need Kiryu
@TITANia69420
@TITANia69420 6 лет назад
Monokle can't agree moar. Tiger drop ftw!!
@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez
@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez 6 лет назад
It's possible there will be one more character since Noctis was practically complete in his reveal, meaning he was in production before the poll was conducted.
@Anevexnn
@Anevexnn 6 лет назад
MAJIMA
@alyxquinncases
@alyxquinncases 6 лет назад
Monokle I mean come on,his fighting style screams for usability in A fighting game
@dan_dai
@dan_dai 6 лет назад
fuck yes!! Kiryu! :D
@Jaedon1981
@Jaedon1981 6 лет назад
Well done my friend! Very indepth video!!
@thelocustemperor
@thelocustemperor 5 лет назад
Wow man, really in depth stuff, thanks so much for this because there are so many of us who don't know about this and it's really important considering again so many people grew up with fighting games and need to get back into them,. these games hold up and are in many cases far superior to the slope we see coming from so many other video game genres. It's pure and the gameplay is still so balanced in these 3d fighters...
@halbarroyzanty2931
@halbarroyzanty2931 5 лет назад
Oro does have two arms despite fighting with only one, the other arm is just hidden in his toga
@vDeadbolt
@vDeadbolt 5 лет назад
Hence why he explained that it would be impossible to make a character who only fights with one limb without resorting to a convuluded story explaining that magic is the cause of this. The reason why oro can switch his arms is because he is using a magic spell to conceal the other one when he switches sides.
@dave9020
@dave9020 6 лет назад
I want my old characters back, BUT I would love Tekken x KOF.
@drew8235
@drew8235 4 года назад
Your editing is fantastic.
@tajito256
@tajito256 6 лет назад
Amazing video dude! Keep it up!
@blueorange3178
@blueorange3178 4 года назад
JDCR’s reaction on Geese is a mood lmao
@Lewdology
@Lewdology 6 лет назад
I still dont understand why isnt Judge Dredd in injustice 2, check out covers for Die Laughing crossover, it writes itself :D Guest in T7, I'd like to see Jackie Chan from his police story role (lei function?), now that would be a crossover.
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 6 лет назад
Lei is Jackie Chan bro.
@mr_boats
@mr_boats 5 лет назад
Lei is actually highly inspired by Jackie Chan as much as how Marshall Law was inspired by Bruce Lee
@DAMIENDICE
@DAMIENDICE 5 лет назад
What a good video! From top of my head, the guest characters that I could see fit Tekken7 would be Makoto or Elena from SF3
@dijimbakabuyiilunga2179
@dijimbakabuyiilunga2179 6 лет назад
First time watcher and I got to say that's pretty good content. I subbed.
@N0vatique
@N0vatique 6 лет назад
As a 2d player I tried tekken 7 and it's really refreshing. Also i want Kiryu Kazuma as DLC
@Bugzilla021
@Bugzilla021 6 лет назад
It never crossed my mind that player 2 in 2D fighters is standing the south paw stance. Mind = blown
@MiHo-6
@MiHo-6 6 лет назад
Great video as always!
@SWMG57
@SWMG57 6 лет назад
Great video as always dude
@glassofmilk9489
@glassofmilk9489 6 лет назад
Can you do an analysis video on anime vs traditional fighters?
@Hawkstar59
@Hawkstar59 6 лет назад
Glass of Milk he's sort of touch upon it before, with his the difficulty of fighting games video. Where he talks about persona and the baseball mechanic
@GIR177
@GIR177 6 лет назад
"Anime fighter" isn't a thing. It's a nonsense term that should be retired for good.
@Hawkstar59
@Hawkstar59 6 лет назад
GIR177 more like it is thing and you just don't like the term. Difference
@glassofmilk9489
@glassofmilk9489 6 лет назад
GIR177 How is it not a thing?
@GIR177
@GIR177 6 лет назад
Hawkstar59 If you could tell me what qualifies as an anime fighter, I'd love to hear it. Is it strictly by having an anime-like art-syle? Because by that logic, the vast majority of fighters made in Japan are anime. Is it having complex game mechanics with crazy movement? Marvel and Skullgirls must be the most anime fighters ever then. It's a nonsense term that nobody can come up with a legitimate concrete definition for since there are exceptions abound, and only serves to segregate the so-called "anime fighters" from others when they're all 2D fighters at heart.
@jasonledesma5747
@jasonledesma5747 6 лет назад
I don't even play fighting games (yet). I just love watching your videos
@concrete490
@concrete490 6 лет назад
Jason Ledesma Wow. That's interesting.
@thevail
@thevail 6 лет назад
It's the small things like using the SFxT disc as a cup coaster that make me love this channel.
@professorhawk777
@professorhawk777 4 года назад
1:46 that good music from tekken 5 "Moonlit Wilderness"
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