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Metal is a genre born of a diverse range of musical influences and points of view, but it’s mainstream image has often been very… macho. In the past few years, a new wave of bands have emerged to challenge that narrative.
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@thisexists
@thisexists 2 года назад
And so ends our journey! This is the last episode of Extremely Online season two. Thanks for coming back to a often-dormant channel and checking out these videos, it rules to still have folks here supporting this stuff. See you soon I am sure!
@CGingRun
@CGingRun 2 года назад
😭😭noooo I don't know how long I can wait for season 3/what every you have planned next!!
@johannaderee4763
@johannaderee4763 2 года назад
Thanks for adding to the list! I actually listened to Sunrot Before. I had no idea they were queer though. It's actually quite the cliché in trans spaces, especially transfem spaces that there are a lot of us who primarily listen to some quite extreme music. The reason i followed you in the first place is because i am actually into extreme music and you have some lovely takes on it and your ear to the ground about some cool stuff. I definitely had a blast finding out about black midi and surf black metal. I'm transfem and that's totally my jams. So there's quite a lot of bands with trans members that make some quite extreme music. And there's several people who maintain lists like mine. Signal boosting other queer musicians is a common practice. On that note, Here's my list. The ones with genres next to the name are bands i actually listened too so could form an opinion on, the rest i haven't listened to extensively yet but are the result of interaction with other people with lists: Trans Bands (and bands with trans members) Uboa Noise/Industrial G.L.O.S.S. Hardcore/Punk Against Me! Punk/Folk Punk PowderPaint Synthwave/Syntpop Mystic Priestess Death Rock/Post-Punk Gaylord Blackened Trash Elegant world Shoegaze/Dreampop ennui Post-Punk/Industrial-Rock The bedroom witch 80’s Industrial Synthpop Shoeb Ahmad Experimental Triphop SeeYouSpaceCowboy American Hardcore Punk/Emo/Metalcore Liturgy Trancendental Black Metal/Black Math(?)/Experimental Tears For The Dead Deathrock/Post-Punk Jordan Coffey Alternative Metal/Post-Hardcore Pigeon Pit Real Tree Home is Where We Are the Union She/Her/Hers Americana/Singer songwriter Insignificant Other Tash Sultana backxwash Jordaan Mason and the Horse Museum Amie Waters glass beach In Love With a Ghost Mal Blum Foxtails Hop Along Dazey and the Scouts Weatherday Florist Rainer Maria Black Dresses Industrial Rock Ada Rook Vektroid (Macintosh +) Vaporwave Cavetown Penny Parker left at london Arca 100 gecs Kim Petras Dorian Electra Sewerslvt Drum & Bass/Depressive Breakcore 4th Curtis Wendy Carlos
@duffman0411
@duffman0411 2 года назад
hey, will there be a season 3? long timeviewer from back in the"this exists" days, keep up the good work
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 2 года назад
Always love what you put out. Hope you make more soon!
@TheJonOwen
@TheJonOwen 2 года назад
Such a good season!! With all the Hamilton love this time around, can we expect a spin-off called Extremely Hamilton?? Get that tourism money!!
@goat325
@goat325 2 года назад
I love that SELECT YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE concert idea
@26yd1
@26yd1 2 года назад
I don't get it, do you mean the CREATE YOUR PERSONAL JOURNEY idea?
@abercrombiedrive
@abercrombiedrive 2 года назад
I gotta say, I don’t listen much to any kind of metal, if at all but I do love that “this exists” and that you’ve shone a well deserved light on it ❤️ That ch**se y**r o*n ex******ce show was pure genius! Can’t wait for more episodes, keep up the amazing work!
@kratos21491
@kratos21491 2 года назад
This Exists used to be one of my fav. Chanels. Found a lot of stuff from there. You stopped posting long time back, but it was a nice surprise to see a notification from you. Cheers man. Now I'll go watch the video.
@linuxstreamer8910
@linuxstreamer8910 2 года назад
this is a awesome channel love the black MIDI episode and the Chap-hop one
@kratos21491
@kratos21491 2 года назад
@@linuxstreamer8910 Yea pretty much. I found about Ghost from Sam. Finding new stuff for something when people share the same passion was one of the main reasons i loved and still love his content.
@josephcaruana8615
@josephcaruana8615 2 года назад
PLEASE 🙏 bring back This Exists.I loved your take on thing and you always found obscure things that literally no one else has ever really documented on RU-vid and if you don’t mind me asking why did you stop 🥺
@CGingRun
@CGingRun 2 года назад
Thank you. I've been shown something I've never known existed. As a gay male who lives metal and alternative stuff. Bless you are out here doing the most man.
@Superblamblamman
@Superblamblamman 2 года назад
So what you're saying is that you didn't know This Exists?
@CGingRun
@CGingRun 2 года назад
@@Superblamblamman exactly. I now know This Exists though. -i am an original viewer of TE from way way back in the day.
@progfox
@progfox 2 года назад
hello fellow gay male
@chrisbartholomew8772
@chrisbartholomew8772 2 года назад
I’m not a metal fan but damn if this wasn’t one of the most uplifting things I’ve seen. Keep on being awesome Vile Creature and Sunrot - and massive thanks to Sam for introducing me to this!
@thehorriblebright
@thehorriblebright 2 года назад
I've always been so sad by all the shitheads in the metal scene(s). I guess I was spoiled with my local crowd. A big chunk of us came out of a very politically aware punk scene so the room for bigots was very small. I've never had any patience for bigotry of any sort. Well, apart from a strong aversion to christians I guess, but I've mellowed with age.
@cantrellisgod
@cantrellisgod 2 года назад
I got into Vile Creature on music alone without knowing their identity/message. Their music stands up on it's own... great band. Great message.
@punklover99
@punklover99 3 месяца назад
Really? The idiots who think war pigs is about the cops?
@maddie7N14
@maddie7N14 2 года назад
flat out this is one of the most interesting and thoughtful series on youtube. fingers crossed for a season 3!
@hecksongs9803
@hecksongs9803 2 года назад
Long time fan since the This Exists days, great video, I love when you cover metal stuff
@SoloDX
@SoloDX 2 года назад
Ill be here when season three starts! Thanks Sam!
@peachscreams
@peachscreams 2 года назад
Incredible work as always Sam
@KatoBloodsoul
@KatoBloodsoul 2 года назад
Not only super happy to see a new vid from ya, but stoked as fuck to see this subject! Keep Rockin!
@Karnsteinband
@Karnsteinband 2 года назад
Hell yeah! (also stoked to see one of comments on the livestream pop up at 9:29)
@deafeningecho9696
@deafeningecho9696 2 года назад
Love this channel
@neauxgassi2407
@neauxgassi2407 2 года назад
Can't wait for season 3! Great stuff Sam!
@robertmorales7812
@robertmorales7812 2 года назад
I love how accurate the conversation with the smokers was.
@jeremymorrow9477
@jeremymorrow9477 2 года назад
Very cool. Great season. Thanks, Sam.
@evanmester1208
@evanmester1208 2 года назад
Been a fan of Vile Creature and Sunrot for years now since seeing them live. Fucking awesome seeing them here.
@josephcaruana8615
@josephcaruana8615 2 года назад
PLEASE 🙏 bring back This Exists.I loved your take on thing and you always found obscure things that literally no one else has ever really documented on RU-vid and if you don’t mind me asking why did you stop 🥺
@xxacidmv
@xxacidmv 2 года назад
I loved season two and this was a good closer. Looking forward to whatever comes next.
@robertmorales7812
@robertmorales7812 2 года назад
How can a company have a copyright on something like choosing your own adventure when its such an obvious idea? It's like Chipotle suing any "choose your own ingredient" restaurants that came after. I'm not sure if Chipotle was the first but you get the point.
@adrienpiette6746
@adrienpiette6746 2 года назад
Fucken brilliant. As always. Please be back soon. You are the wind beneath my wings.
@xxacidmv
@xxacidmv 2 года назад
Got to say, I like the little touches, like the time shown on the clock or that the credits "file" is an rtf.
@DevinJuularValentine
@DevinJuularValentine 2 года назад
This is so cool. Thank you for this video. I'm in a trans / queer rock band in England and I'm definitely going to reach out to the people in this video, we have also had wonderful experiences with people messaging us saying our music helped them come out, or even people we know irl. We had the amazing opportunity to do music videos (not yet released) featuring so many trans and queer people in roles you never see our community play. It's been amazing, we played our city pride and when we came off stage young trans kids wanted to take pictures with us. This is what we set out to do in our scene. I feel really motivated to keep going &, to reach out. Our band is Hunting Hearts
@RandomPCJ
@RandomPCJ 2 года назад
Hey Sam, great stuff as always. Regarding 1:35 -- "They used it as a cover for an ep"... Mayhem did not produce Dawn of the Black Hearts. It's a bootleg. See Lords of Chaos, page 57: "There is a bootleg of the Sarpsborg show called Dawn of the Black Hearts, released by someone in South America."
@wendyilla
@wendyilla 2 года назад
I had no idea these bands existed and I'm so grateful to you for sharing this with us. It brings so much joy to my queerdo heart. 💜
@gussybobbler3676
@gussybobbler3676 7 месяцев назад
Gross
@reafdfsagassg
@reafdfsagassg 2 года назад
sick vid. thanks!
@princegoatcheese9379
@princegoatcheese9379 2 года назад
This is why I fucking LOVE the metal/punk rock community. As a fan of both subgenres, I see a huge diversity of genders, races and sexual identities that have their voices heard by so many people worldwide and that brings a smile to my face. The one thing I dislike about the broader public is how many companies and organizations have gentrified the LGBTQIA2+ community by making it look more like a Macy's Thanksgiving parade than a real community full of caring people that want to live their lives like everyone else without being harassed or persecuted. It's not all rainbows and sunshine. Sometimes it's dark and angry and depressing. Heavy metal and punk rock help people yell and scream out their rage. It's cathartic, and that's why I love it so much! Great video, Sam! I love you for putting the spotlight on the angry (and fun) side of LGBTQIA2+ music.
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
I'm bi and i think the acronym has gotten out of hand
@sleeplessinflatland
@sleeplessinflatland 2 года назад
Sam, you the man
@punklover99
@punklover99 Год назад
So this went from a weekly show, to one every few months, to almost never got it
@mariohernandezjr1391
@mariohernandezjr1391 2 года назад
Sam, You've got to cover r/place 2022. This entire weekend was glorious. All the art was fantastic, the Streamer wars were insane, and the great white-out finale was emotional as fuck.
@arrw
@arrw 2 года назад
Well this was amazing. Great ending for the season! It's a shame these videos aren't being fed to the subscribers you built years ago. RU-vid algorithm is fucked.
@acidronin5730
@acidronin5730 2 года назад
This show rules please do more.
@daniellewillis2767
@daniellewillis2767 5 месяцев назад
I remember Helot Revolt from the late 80s/early 90s. Booked them at Klubstitute in SF back in the day and they were the coolest guys.
@user-bi6ri5ez5t
@user-bi6ri5ez5t 7 месяцев назад
1:42 Gaahl said the first person to show him support when he came out was Faust...
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks 2 года назад
I love this. If you haven't seen the trans-fronted metal band SeeYouSpaceCowboy, you really need to check them out.
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
Too bad they aren't good
@snottymane7042
@snottymane7042 2 года назад
i love tje vile creature shoutout
@dctw4480
@dctw4480 2 года назад
I adore metal bands and just how wonderful their communities can be with giving absolutely no fucks about what makes people different while focusing on what we all love, heavy fucking riffs. I always get super chuffed watching people who listen to say Tallah go and watch one of Justin's livestreams for the first time and seeing how outside the "norm" metal vocalists (and metal in general) can be, and everyone just going "yes, and?" those that are negative get shut down just so fast.
@VoidDWG
@VoidDWG 3 месяца назад
I will do some things in a dark alley for this channel to come back.
@radioactivehalfrhyme
@radioactivehalfrhyme 8 дней назад
What have you done?!?
@neilshenton1834
@neilshenton1834 2 года назад
Awesome. ✌️💞✊
@RYB0RB15
@RYB0RB15 2 года назад
What's up with the like dislike ratio here
@punklover99
@punklover99 4 месяца назад
Because the bands suck
@arcioko2142
@arcioko2142 3 месяца назад
conservatives
@teethgrinder83
@teethgrinder83 2 года назад
Not my kinda music but admire what they're doing-keep it up! Music is for EVERYONE! 🤘🤘🤘
@ChrisLeeW00
@ChrisLeeW00 2 года назад
They do cassette releases? Hell yeah.
@hittheboof1084
@hittheboof1084 2 года назад
Goddamn I missed this show
@Numorks_
@Numorks_ 2 года назад
Wondering if you know about Fire Toolz? I figure that would be an amazing episode if you ever check them out
@purchasevj
@purchasevj 2 года назад
pleased to be like #420 on this video.
@weepingwell
@weepingwell 2 года назад
dude when did this show come back?
@BrainyBoy1200
@BrainyBoy1200 2 года назад
Holy shit Gwarsenio!!
@VoidDWG
@VoidDWG 4 месяца назад
Jesus HW Christ I miss this channel.
@johneapleseed6876
@johneapleseed6876 2 года назад
I wish there was a scene.
@parrata
@parrata 2 года назад
How did I miss most of season 2?
@evanhancock4657
@evanhancock4657 2 года назад
That online live show looks so sick. So funny and genuine
@seanp9915
@seanp9915 2 года назад
I have that cat calander :)
@fersuarez4344
@fersuarez4344 2 года назад
Love this, but you're leaving out the queer extreme metal community from Argentina, bands like Strap On Brigade, Manhanto, Boot Bottom, Cheating Spouses Caught On Tape, Coagvla or SØLVË, some of them were playing as far as 2014
@F_L_U_X
@F_L_U_X 2 года назад
3:22 _Hmm..._
@teoo8816
@teoo8816 Год назад
tf is this
@bryndone
@bryndone 11 месяцев назад
Wow. You have to have never listened to Sabbath at all, and operate on pure Ideological-Word-Association, to think War Pigs is about Police Just because "Pigs" is in the title... Good hell. - Anyway, I turned this off after that. I could see there would be nothing of substance in this video, if this is the quality of rationale being highlighted.
@punklover99
@punklover99 4 месяца назад
I said the same thing
@VegaRockIn-Depth
@VegaRockIn-Depth 2 года назад
It seems to me that everyone these days WANT to be labelled. They need to be labelled and placed in a group. When the people who are my age (46ish) were in our teens we strove for individuality and to NOT "fit in". Of course there were less categories you could identify with but no one wanted to be labelled.
@Liquid_Mike
@Liquid_Mike 2 года назад
Why can't you say "Chxxse your xwn advxxxxre"??
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
Did you really not pay attention
@HyrimBot
@HyrimBot 2 года назад
lol
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n 2 года назад
🤔🤔🤔
@Bartholomule01
@Bartholomule01 2 года назад
It has been really good seeing some of the LGBTQ+ artists in the Metal and Hardcore scenes in the late 10s and more recently as well. Liturgy is one of my faves.
@RedUmbre
@RedUmbre Год назад
I just got done rewatching the whole This Exists series. I'll watch RU-vid videos in a playlist with commercials and TV bumpers mixxed in so that it kinda feels like watching TV. I always watch This Exists after Captain Disillusion. And I put a Sonic Says after This Exists so now my brain expects Sonic Sez to come on every time Sam Sutherland signs off from a video. I'm almost done with the reruns I need new episodes!
@christianhighii9882
@christianhighii9882 Год назад
I saw a posted video and now it is gone. Come to realize i hadn't been getting your content the entire past 2 years. Wtf RU-vid.
@Amfortas
@Amfortas Год назад
I remember now why I unsubscribed
@positivepsycho2932
@positivepsycho2932 Год назад
Yep. He's the reason that gatekeepers exist. I Unsubbed after he hated on white power rap music.
@punklover99
@punklover99 Год назад
​@@positivepsycho2932 as dumb as that stuff is it's cool to take a look at crazy stuff like that. He's just an sjw type that happens to like metal for some reason
@nukedukem614
@nukedukem614 2 года назад
BLEEP
@pinkertonbyweezer
@pinkertonbyweezer 2 года назад
Girls rock
@nanaottoniyoutube
@nanaottoniyoutube 2 года назад
You channel is one of the best things on youtube. Thank you for the amazing content! Ps.: we're here and we're queer!!
@punklover99
@punklover99 Год назад
But can you get better repatriation than these idiots
@miguelpace4321
@miguelpace4321 Год назад
Hypertone IS NEEDED to be documented
@Decembersbreath
@Decembersbreath 2 года назад
Claiming that Hair Metal or groups like Judas Priest promote or even represent hyper-masculinity due to their outfits is disingenuous. It's showmanship, or showpersonship if you will. It's a performance for others. Otherwise, as Bill Hicks said, "take all your albums and burn them".
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL 2 года назад
The most telling bits was Rob Halford's own interviews about when he came out. When you have the legacy of Judas Priest, nobody cares about your orientation. Rock hard enough and they will come.
@AnkhAnanku
@AnkhAnanku 2 года назад
So what you’re saying is hair metal is essentially masculine drag and has the same effect on cis folks that pride shit has on a quiet non-binary person that wants to scream about blood and pain and shred guitar… That or I’m just projecting my own issues
@punklover99
@punklover99 3 месяца назад
​@@AnkhAnankudefinitely more the ladder. Hair metal was more for shock value
@SanskarWagley
@SanskarWagley 2 года назад
Vile Creature are awesome
@Karlangas_Khan
@Karlangas_Khan Год назад
they make the most boring and generic type of black or doom metal, but hey, now with some lgbt crap so now its ilegal to say that
@_foxpuppet
@_foxpuppet 2 года назад
I am a queer trans goth and I love metal. I'm so fucking happy to know these bands exist
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
There's been good bands before them where have you been
@_foxpuppet
@_foxpuppet 2 года назад
@@punklover99 if you can recommend more queer metal bands please do
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
@@_foxpuppet Judas priest
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
@@_foxpuppet havok, iron regan
@_foxpuppet
@_foxpuppet 2 года назад
@@punklover99 thanks I'll check them out. Just a note, your first comment came across very "elitist gatekeeping metalhead at the bar." I don't know if that's what you were going for but you might want to work on your phrasing if it wasnt
@wtchnwsnw2100
@wtchnwsnw2100 2 года назад
5:40 it's funny how fascist the anti-fascist movement is
@adnak7382
@adnak7382 Год назад
Leviathan.
@SlaserX
@SlaserX 2 года назад
There's nothing less metal than identity politics
@punklover99
@punklover99 4 месяца назад
"There's this cool queer doom metal band" Said no one ever
@bubbytumby8509
@bubbytumby8509 2 года назад
this is kind of an oxymoron because the problem with metal is not just macho crap but aggression in general. you have Mosh Pits with people punching each other while insulting religion and authority and society. metal at its core is offensive and aggressive. even if you remove cisgender men, how do you fix the offensive anti religion/authority aggression? metal is the most offensive and politically incorrect type of music at its core.
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks 2 года назад
Religion and government are "the system", and metal is aggressive against the system. Metal is not aggressive against marginalized people. It's against people who abuse their power in the system or exercise their power over marginalized people. That's why metal is against organized religion and fascist governments, and not against a person's skin color or sexuality.
@bubbytumby8509
@bubbytumby8509 2 года назад
@@MasonzeroDigitalWorks are you saying there aren't lgtb that work in churches or that are pastors? are you saying the government doesn't have lgtb people? be careful now. what you just said applies to the 90s maybe. very antiquated stuff from the 90s maybe, but not now. the point still remains, remove the macho stuff in metal, you still have the offensive problematic aggression. metal is still offensive at its core. it's not just the machismo. metal insults hundreds of people. right now there are literally lgtb churches that exist, that follow Jesus. you understand this yes?
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 2 года назад
@@bubbytumby8509 1) It's pretty obvious they're not saying any of those things. That's a pretty dishonest assumption. 2) You're wildly mistaken if you think bigotry is extinct. It's very much alive in "the west" even if it's less televised than before. LGBT positive churches are the vast minority. 3) Aggression is what metal is made for. You kill the genre if you remove the aggression. Way better to have a musical outlet for anger than anything else.
@bubbytumby8509
@bubbytumby8509 2 года назад
@@Crispman_777 is not about bigotry being extinct. I never said it was. I said that metal is literally about offending people. and if you want a politically correct society where people aren't offended, metal is against that by its very core. what I said about religion is that more churches have lgtb pastors and communities now. even the pope is pro lgtb. so metal is antiquated and obsolete in a politically correct society.
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 2 года назад
@@bubbytumby8509 This is a false equivalence. Arguing for tolerance and equal rights isn't the same as banning all generally offensive behaviour (an impossible feat). Anger against the establishment's mistakes and flaws should never be made silent. I still reject the image you portray about religion. More isn't most and the Pope can say what he likes but it's the action of society that counts.
@goblin3810
@goblin3810 2 года назад
Supporting gay people is not hard left lol. It's just decent
@awoo2004
@awoo2004 2 года назад
Well, conservatives hate the LGBTQ community so I think both statements are true.
@goblin3810
@goblin3810 2 года назад
@@awoo2004 I didn't know you decided what conservatives feel.
@thehorriblebright
@thehorriblebright 2 года назад
@@goblin3810 Well he's not wrong. If the conservatives had their way homosexuality would still be illegal. They've fought against the rights of everyone who isn't christian, white, straight and male forever.
@goblin3810
@goblin3810 2 года назад
@@thehorriblebright your to late. Awoo already decided what every conservative is. Sorry
@relo999
@relo999 2 года назад
@@awoo2004 That's what leftists like you to believe in an attempt to vilify their political opponents. On the right it's only really the more extreme religious majority groups that hold that view. However on the left also have groups that hate LGB people, from religious minorities (which often get protected by and marked as being left wing), socialists, communists, all kinds of stereotypically left wing splinter groups like TERFS, etc. And then I haven't even touched groups that are left or right depending on how you define that spectrum. Support for or hating LGB people is pretty politically neutral. The only real difference is how support takes form, for the left this often is a bunch of chest beating and flag waving while for the right it means treating them like everyone else.
@punklover99
@punklover99 2 года назад
Oh no you have to play next to a police station, just do the fucking show. The glory of having a band and being protected by the first amendment (at least here in the us) is that you can say anything you want. If you're booked just fucking play, don't want to? Fine then explain that to your fan waiting since sound check
@Antiprogressivepraxis
@Antiprogressivepraxis 2 года назад
Nauseating.
@robertfrancis2039
@robertfrancis2039 2 года назад
WTF IS QUEER METAL? THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR. THE WORLD NEEDS SHARIA LAW FOR 2 YEARS. JUST 2 YEARS.
@ivan9066
@ivan9066 2 года назад
Black trans lives matter and ACAB slabbed on his bass. ...yeah you go girl, signal all that virtues. *Slay*
@chriskarate
@chriskarate 2 года назад
If a person is saying something they believe is right and necessary, then they aren't "signalling", it's just sincerity
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks
@MasonzeroDigitalWorks 2 года назад
I genuinely would love to know why you think this is bad. If the guitar said "pineapple on pizza is good" is that virtue signaling? If it said "make love not war" is that virtue signaling? If they actively work to contribute to protests and social change, is it still virtue signaling?
@Antiprogressivepraxis
@Antiprogressivepraxis 2 года назад
This scene is so fake cringe and contrived.
@cultural_marxism_fan
@cultural_marxism_fan 2 года назад
lmao cope rightoid
@ivan9066
@ivan9066 2 года назад
@@cultural_marxism_fan "Cope rightoid".... implying that I'm right wing. I just don't like idiots making stupid statements.
@jusded6803
@jusded6803 2 года назад
Great video.
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