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Asexuality and Kink: Why Do So Many Aces Love It? 

Meghan Sandor
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Wait...asexual people can be into kink? Isn't that a contradiction? NOPE! If you've ever wondered why there are so many kinky aces out there, I humbly offer you my two cents.
💜🤍🩶🖤RESOURCES💜🤍🩶🖤
The Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN): www.asexuality.org/
Asexual Awareness Week: aceweek.org/
Asexuality 101: www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-c...
The Invisible Orientation: time.com/2889469/asexual-orie...
The Canadian Centre for Gender & Sexual Diversity (they're inclusive of asexuality): ccgsd-ccdgs.org/
Asexual Info Booklet: www.equality-network.org/wp-c...
💜🤍🩶🖤VIDEOS💜🤍🩶🖤
‪@EvieLupine‬ "Asexuality and BDSM" - • Asexuality And BDSM
‪@EvieLupine‬ "Polyamorous AND Asexual?" - • Polyamorous AND Asexua...
‪@TheAceCouple‬ "Asexuality and Kink" - • Asexuality & Kink ft. ...
‪@TheAceCouple‬ "What the 'Kink at Pride' Discourse Gets Wrong" - • Asexuality & Kink ft. ...
‪@kinkynerdypolypodcast2999‬ "Asexuality & Kink / Asexuality & BDSM" - • Asexuality and Kink | ...
💜🤍🩶🖤ARTICLES💜🤍🩶🖤
"Asexual and Kinky - what?" - stanforddaily.com/2014/06/05/...
"Asexual Kinksters. Yep, We Exist" - / asexual-kinksters-yep-...
"Asexual Rights" - www.aasect.org/asexual-rights
"7 Things You Might Not Know About Conversion Therapy" -
www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us...
"I Think I Might Be Asexual" - advocatesforyouth.org/wp-cont...
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@silvermoon6175
@silvermoon6175 5 месяцев назад
Definitely hit the nail on the head with imagining kinks in your head rather than acting them.
@LesAnderson
@LesAnderson 2 месяца назад
Yup!
@ktaespetacular
@ktaespetacular 5 дней назад
yeah
@gstrathmore194
@gstrathmore194 5 месяцев назад
"If you could only ever have sex with people you aren't attracted to you'd have to come up with some pretty elaborate fantasies and situations to make sex work for you." This helped me understand asexuality. Thank you for the useful explanation.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
Thank YOU for your comment! I'm so glad it helped :)
@BWAcolyte
@BWAcolyte 3 месяца назад
Hearing that literally blew my mind, wow
@danic9304
@danic9304 3 месяца назад
OMG that hit so hard for me
@MariaCase-dm9sq
@MariaCase-dm9sq 2 месяца назад
this really resonated for me as well and is giving me a lot of food for thought, thank you!
@cookiecat7759
@cookiecat7759 Месяц назад
Ikr!
@toosolidcuuj
@toosolidcuuj 9 месяцев назад
I don't myself identify as asexual, but what I've heard other folks in the ace community say is that there's a difference between being sex positive and sex favorable. You can have healthy attitudes toward sex no matter how you feel about you, yourself, personally having sex. So an ace person can be sex averse or even sex repulsed but still sex positive. Only some aces are sex favorable, but all aces can be, and often are, sex positive.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
100%, and thank you for that distinction! Now I'm wishing I would have put that in my video, it's super helpful and valuable. Thank you! :)
@nordicpink
@nordicpink Месяц назад
Very important distinction that I’ve never heard acknowledged by anyone else.
@ktaespetacular
@ktaespetacular 5 дней назад
oh, yes, exactly! I'm ace and I consider myself sex repulsed, but I'm still sex positive!
@zdance536
@zdance536 4 дня назад
I don't really got the point. How can you be both sex repulsed and sex positive? Are you at the same time? Or it changes over time?
@toosolidcuuj
@toosolidcuuj 2 дня назад
​@zdance536 you can believe that sex in general isn't inherently dirty/demeaning while at the same time you personally do not want to engage in it
@ruckly1241
@ruckly1241 9 месяцев назад
This kinda makes me feel strange for being not only asexual, but also painfully vanilla. I'm sex favorable and have tried some kink with partners in the past, but I always felt ridiculous the whole time. It was all very awkward and silly for something that is always treated so seriously. Personally, I think more people should embrace and celebrate how silly and ridiculous sex can be. Nothing is more intimate than sharing a laugh with someone you love, completely without pretense or defensiveness. The ill-timed fart might not be sexy, but the uncontrolled giggling that follows definitely is.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
I love this so much and thank you for this perspective! I totally agree, some of the best sex I've ever had was silly and playful and just a good time with lots of laughs. Totally agree :)
@gabrielrockman
@gabrielrockman 9 месяцев назад
My younger sister is asexual, and she writes fan fiction. I didn't know that there was a link between the two.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
A lot of aces have big imaginations :) A lot of us are writers, or artists or both. There's also a lot of crossover between asexuality and neurodivergence, and neurodivergent brains are more likely to be engaged with creative tasks, because of the way our brains make connections between things that don't necessarily go together. It's a pretty fascinating rabbit hole when you get into it!
@cookiecat7759
@cookiecat7759 7 месяцев назад
THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD OMGGGG im asexual (specifically aegosexual) and i love love loveeee reading fics! fluff, smut, yadayada, espppp when its romance. its awlays so funny to me when my friends assume thta i must be "innocent" or not understand a sexual joke when i read smut on a regular basis lol
@Perilous_perils_forrest
@Perilous_perils_forrest 4 месяца назад
I relate to this so much:] /pos (also hi fellow aegosexual:3)
@gothic_ace2037
@gothic_ace2037 Месяц назад
hehe same, fics are my jam, especially gay fics. honestly the weirder and kinkier the better for me, my adhd has decided that kink is my hyperfixation so yaaaay :)
@thatoneradiohost2737
@thatoneradiohost2737 19 дней назад
Yooo, my fellow aegosexuals!! Fic is the besttt. My friends always assumed I wouldn't get dirty jokes too, but I literally have favourite smut authors on ao3
@cookiecat7759
@cookiecat7759 18 дней назад
@@thatoneradiohost2737 real for that
@gregoryhouldsworth2189
@gregoryhouldsworth2189 Месяц назад
I wish I had this video back in time to my past self an an ex-"friend" of mine. I met a guy a few years ago who became VERY into me very quickly. To temper his expectations a little, I explained to him that I was asexual. He didn't really understand, since he had a particularly rigid understanding of what I meant and basically just assumed I was repulsed by all sex. Occasionally, if I made a horny joke or commented that I found a fictional character attractive, he would comment about how I was "not a very good asexual". I tried to give a deeper explanation to him about my asexuality, like how I could be attracted to certain kinks or situations without the actual sex part being the primary driver. Unfortunately, my understanding of my own desires at that time was rocky at best, and I didn't know where the core of my unusual attractions came from. Fast forward after a few months of this back-and-forth, our relationship had progressed to the point where we were regularly engaging in a lot of sensual activities, like rubbing backs and getting goosebumps or just snuggling on the couch together. One night, while doing this with him, he decided to take things a step farther. I basically forced myself to go along with what he wanted largely thanks to what you mentioned before; my upbringing in a sex-centric world made me ill-prepared to handle not being that way. Maybe I did actually want this? Maybe I just hadn't met the right person until now? Maybe this is how everyone feels and I was just being dramatic? When we were done, the answer to all of those questions was a resounding "no". I couldn't even look at him because I felt so sick to my stomach about what I had done. He had no idea what was going through my head, and actually assumed the opposite was true. A few days later, when we discussed what happened, he gleefully proclaimed, "I knew you weren't actually ace!" It was then that I finally explained to him how uncomfortable I truly felt, and how I didn't say anything at the time due to my own nerves and confusion. He didn't take the news well; he cried and said that he wouldn't do it again. I thought that this would be the end of him trying anything sexual with me, but that couldn't have been farther from the truth. The dynamic between us eventually continued as though nothing had changed. I explained to him that I was comfortable with our sensual activities from before, which we both still enjoyed. But after a couple months of us doing that, he would inevitably assume that I was ready to move onto the "next stage", as it were, and this time I would definitely enjoy it. He just couldn't wrap his head around the idea that I enjoyed sensual contact with him, but not sexual. I became better at rejecting his advances and never consented to doing anything sexual with him again, but he just kept trying. Over and over, he continued to insist that I wasn't actually ace and that I would feel better once I finally accepted the feelings for him I which was supposedly suppressing. Eventually, his frustration and stubbornness finally boiled over. I was SA'd. It was only then that I finally decided to cut him out of my life. I think back on this situation constantly, and I probably will for the rest of my life, wondering how many things I could have done differently. And I can't help but feel like this ugly situation could have been avoided if I had been better about searching out videos like this one. Both for helping me understand my own sexuality, and also getting better at explaining it to other people. When you live in such a sex-focused world, it's hard not to believe that there's something wrong with you if you don't experience attraction the "right" way. But if nothing else, videos like this make it easier to accept this uncomfortable fact about myself. I'm not sure if I can ever feel pride in my asexuality, given how many times it has driven people away from me. But perhaps I can at least learn to make peace with it. I'm not sure if I'll regret being so open about my situation in a stranger's RU-vid comment section, of all places. But hey, if nothing else, I'm boosting this in the algorithm so that more people can see it. Thank you for making it.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
I’m so sorry that this happened to you and it’s NOT your fault in any way. It’s his. You were being clear and upfront with all the information you had at the time and he chose not to listen. That’s on him, and he could have made different choices that involved respecting you and taking the initiative to learn more about asexuality and what it means, and to ask you questions about what it means for YOU, with an open mind and heart. He chose to not to do those things and he probably would have still chosen to not do them even if you’d had more information and clarity. I’m glad you’re out of that situation now and I’m glad this video helped!
@no_
@no_ 4 месяца назад
I'm ace and this is the first time I learned about the difference between sensual and sexual, it's EXACTLY how I feel about kink! Edit: OMG the whole "being interested in kink from an intellectual standpoint" is exactly how I got into it!! I was confused how people could find BDSM sexual in any way so I did research about it and found it interesting
@dream_walker9726
@dream_walker9726 17 дней назад
Me fr 😭 i thought it was just the autism
@colixnaia6512
@colixnaia6512 4 месяца назад
I felt so deeply and tremendously seen by this video and what is said therein! I didn't figure out I was asexual until after my first relationship, in which I was never able to keep myself physically aroused for sex despite my great desire to please my partner. I didn't even understand that you could be ace and kinky until I found out an nsfw artist I followed was ace, and messaged them to talk about it out of curiosity. I think the thing that really sounded like you were reading my mind was saying that we have sex 'in our heads'. Before I figured out I was ace, I very literally used to say I was "very in my head" when it came to sex, and I thought that sometimes I just had a disconnect when trying to push that arousal from my mind to my body. I used that phrase for at least a couple years of my adult life, so for you to use almost those exact words was such a call-out XD I'm personally an ace dom, and the the things you said about BDSM-related kink are also very true, as well! While sometimes I do feel sexually aroused by those dynamics, it never translates to ever desiring sexual things. What I do find, though, is even outside of those more horny situations, I find a lot of comfort and personal nonsexual pleasure in having those dynamics. Having subs call me by certain titles or such, casually or lovingly referring to them by their titles, talking down to them, etc is all quite a nice thing. And with those that reciprocate that level of comfort in those dynamics, there's a deep and trusting bond that forms in the shared understanding of our roles. Aside from possible other things (I've been recently exploring the likelihood of my own undiagnosed neurodivergence), this is probably why losing some of those dom/sub role relationships in past was so traumatic and felt so deep a betrayal. I think allosexuals (at least on average) put so much value in actual sexual contexts that intimate contact and dynamics of other kinds fall by the wayside. It's hard for them to understand. For instance, I also tend to find intimate contact (hugs, snuggling, etc) with close friends totally normal, but any time I mention the idea of cuddling a friend of mine, people seem to be surprised that I would do that. Relationships and the comfort therein can be so much more dynamic and interesting than I feel allosexual/alloromantic society teaches people to believe, and I think that is truly a great loss for so many people.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
I completely agree, especially with that last paragraph. There are a lot of things that allosexual people find sexual that I just don't (like butts! I don't get it), so I get weird looks too when I want to do things platonically but it's not platonic for the other person. I'm so glad my video made you feel seen! I love how you said that you have trouble pushing the arousal from your head to your body--that's SUCH a good way of putting it
@CyanicusTwice
@CyanicusTwice 4 месяца назад
Answer to the question asked at 3:27 (obviously a NSFW answer). I'm a sex repulsed aroace and although I haven't tried any, I definitely have kinks. Most of them are fairly common like bondage and masochism (specifically cbt), but I do have a CNC kink (sometimes known as 'rape play') which surprises me given that I've been raped because of my asexuality and that being the reason as to why I'm sex repulsed. Over the years I have bought a few toys that cater to some of them but I don't feel entirely satisfied or that there's something that is still missing. And yes, I do feel like nobody knows we exist other than others like me. "Kink scenes can be aesthetically pleasing". Thank you, that has just clicked in my head. I always wondered why I occasionally watch porn because it sure as hell wasn't for anything sexual. It's just entertainment to me nothing adult about it, like watching a sport event or a movie.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing! I’m glad it helped, understanding that things are sometimes just aesthetically pleasing and that’s all you need was also super helpful for me!
@chey7691
@chey7691 3 месяца назад
Hi I know someone who also has a CNC kink and also has experienced SA (they aren't asexual, but I am). And explains to me that it feels "cathartic" in a sort of way, everything is planned and isn't actually dangerous. Give them some power back mentally about how they own their own body.
@nordicpink
@nordicpink Месяц назад
Maybe a trigger warning rather than just a NSFW warning would result in this comment being less harmful.💜 I read it expecting only NSFW, not something that would panic me.
@Xeavone
@Xeavone Месяц назад
Sex-averse Ace here. For me, I'm totally positive joking about and talking about sexual topics with friends and family. Although, as soon as that topic turns towards me having sex with someone, even potential partners, it's a no-go for me. That being said, I'm someone who has heavy sensual attraction sprinkled with romance and aesthetic attraction. I'm in love with the feeling of feeling, and would absolutely enjoy cuddling, kissing, message, pretty much touch everywhere except the reproductive organs, which lends itself to territory of sexual attraction (for me). Of the three decades I've been alive as an androgynous woman, I've never been sexually attracted to anyone, but know for a fact that I'm hetero because all my sensual fantasies are with guys, but it always turns back to the feeling itself. For the longest time, it was so confusing because I never felt the need to go to that "third place/ home run" everyone was talking about growing up. Could never understand it, still don't understand it, and I'm way more happier now than prior, when a lot of this terminology didn't exist when I was growing up in the 2000's. Even in the 2010's during my college years, it was still flaky. Now I'm trying to reprogram myself to date for the first time in my life and seeing myself as NOT being a burden, NOT owing it to an allo partner, and that I DESERVE a loving relationship and that I'm not wasting a potential partner's time dating me. Better late than never!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
It seems like we’re about the same age and I totally relate to all of that! Especially when you date men, there’s so much pressure to live up to what society teaches us they want. I’m so glad you figured (and are figuring) it out!
@lizevanleeuwen7293
@lizevanleeuwen7293 2 месяца назад
I've known i was asexual for a while now but started questioning my identity again because of my interest in kink and physical intimacy (which i interpreted as an interest in sex). Turns out it makes me all the more asexual lol The nuances between sensual and sexual, imagined and real, situations and people, etcetera make so much sense to me. Probably had like five asexual awakenings during the span of this video. Thank you for making me see connections where i saw contradictions!
@Nia_Nightart
@Nia_Nightart 2 месяца назад
I feel you so much ^^
@dream_walker9726
@dream_walker9726 17 дней назад
Bro I’m right here with you!
@calico3202
@calico3202 2 месяца назад
I might be somewhere on the ace spectrum, questioning, still figuring stuff out but not super urgently, and have developed an interest in kink and the surrounding culture over the last years. The dynamics in sex are interesting to me, but the actual act of it, if it involves me directly, was always 'too much of a hassle' to continuously want to pursue it. Playing stuff out in my mind is easier, and a lot more gratifying because it doesn't need for me to get over hangups involving my body and mental barriers i've built up over my life with a real life partner to enjoy sex at all. Reading and writing erotic fan fiction has alwaye been my 'creative outlet' of choice here.
@vinnyfromvenus8188
@vinnyfromvenus8188 Месяц назад
omg I *have* to comment, because I've genuinely never had anyone describe my sexuality and its relationship with kink before in such a specific and (for lack of a better word) correct way. Specially the section about sex being in our heads and having fantasies that are really arousing but would be an immediate turn off if they actually happened, wow, you really hit the nail on the head with that one.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
Thank you! I’m so glad you found it helpful :)
@flippinfloppin
@flippinfloppin 4 месяца назад
Hi hello! Just stumbled on this video, very fun!! I'm a sex neutral-averse aroace; ive never been FULLY sure how to define it bc I am very fine with fully imaginary sex (and I'm friends with ace ppl who get squicked by even passive sex mentions) but am EXTREMELY repulsed by the idea of real sex happening to me in my body. Most of my exposure to kink is for that reason very much in the brainspace, where my thoughts can be entirely disconnected from myself. The more distanced a concept is from reality, the more likely it is to turn me on, whereas stuff that's more grounded in reality can be anywhere from interesting to me as part of a story to making me full-body cringe. It all depends! I think my experience with sex def lines up with the "in the head" thing. If it's not a real thing that could feasibly happen, great! If it checks the boxes of -real people -realistic scenario -physically possible -I am asked to involve myself in the imaginary situation, it is not for me!
@bow_n_aro
@bow_n_aro 2 месяца назад
I'm aroace (or at least somewhere on the spectrum), and I've been thinking recently about getting into dating, since I crave physical affection and would like to have a life partner, but I've been super intimidated about getting started, partly due to the amatonormative idea that relationships and intimacy must include sex. I was worried about the people I date feeling that way, and honestly I realize now that I still have some internalized amatonormativity to work through. This video gives me a lot of hope, though, and I feel a lot less alone in my journey, and plus I now know that kink sounds like a great option for me to look into lol, so thanks for making this!
@utuelias
@utuelias 3 месяца назад
... Huh, this video made me realise that me liking D/s dynamics since as long as I have been curious about anything sexual, actually is very much in line with me being ace. I like situations and energies. Anticipation rather than gratification. Visuality over desire to act.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
I can only relate to this!
@KristenPimley
@KristenPimley 5 месяцев назад
I've been on a journey to realizing my asexuality this past year, and dear God, I am so attacked by every point in this video. 😂 I can’t believe this exists. It summarizes everything I've experienced since I started forcing myself to be sexually active 10 years ago. I didn’t know these thoughts/feelings were a shared experience? Truly identity-shattering stuff here. Thank you.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing! They are definitely very common in the community, you aren't alone! I'm glad this resonated :)
@kebah11
@kebah11 5 месяцев назад
How dare you call out my physically impossible imaginary trauma healing kink!! (Jk I actually feel so seen for the first time in my life??? 😭) Literally thank you for this video
@sambaranowska1251
@sambaranowska1251 3 месяца назад
This video made me understand myself so much better as someone who recently realised they are ace, also given the fact that I am still in denial of it, which is a really weird space to be in when you're aware of the fact. I feel like this video is solidfying my reality and helping me break free of that denial. I also found the link between asexuality and fanfic very interesting as I have written a lot myself, which I also attribute to being neurodiverse. Thank you for this video. I think it’s helping me to be more secure in my asexuality. Mostly because I am now understanding that my desires are actually sensual and not sexual, and that those two things, although they can coexist, don’t actually have to. The concept of kink has always interested me, but never more so than now, now that I actually know what it really is.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it helped you understand yourself better! It’s okay to be in denial, I totally get that feeling of cognitive dissonance. I was too for a long time, I felt like I wasn’t queer “enough” so I didn’t count. It was a weird headspace to be in and it took me years to shake it. I think it’s pretty common for aspec people though, because it’s hard to know if/when you’re feeling a LACK of attraction
@gothic_ace2037
@gothic_ace2037 Месяц назад
Hello, fellow neurodivergent asexual writer of fanfiction here to tell you that you are not alone. Some (not all) of my fics get very graphic in the sexual area. The joy and entertainment that i bring to others with my works gives me heaps of serotonin.
@alexjustme8381
@alexjustme8381 2 месяца назад
I am ace and i never thought about "kinky" stuff as a kink because i thought its only a sexuall thing, but i lately realised that thats not true. And it feels realy good too know another thing that makes me feel good now 😊
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 2 месяца назад
I'm glad my video helped you feel more comfortable in your ace-ness!
@alexjustme8381
@alexjustme8381 2 месяца назад
@@meghansandor absolutly, just some days ago one of my friends asked me "how can you be kinky and ace" thats when i realised the things i like are kinks and i needet to know more about it, thanks for this video
@alexjustme8381
@alexjustme8381 2 месяца назад
@@meghansandor PS: i'm konstandly moving between sex repulsive, neutral and positiv... So yea, even repulsed aces can be kinky i think
@Strogman25
@Strogman25 Месяц назад
Now that I think about it, the idea of _enthusiastic_ consent being necessary also invalidates sex work, which is another good reason not to use this phrasing.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
I didn’t think about that but you are so right!!!
@RivLoveshine
@RivLoveshine 4 месяца назад
I am a sex repulsed asexual who really wants to do pet play. I am also aromantic. Here's my story. I would love to have a queer platonic partner who does pet play with me. They'd be my handler and I'd be the dog. It would be completely non-sexual. I just really wish I could be a human treated like a dog with an owner and stuff. If I could have dog ears and a dog tail attached to my human body that actually were biologically apart of me, I would. And even then, I'd still want to have an owner and be their pet. That's literally the whole story. I'm not into any other types of kinks.
@thoughtsofelizabeth
@thoughtsofelizabeth 5 месяцев назад
As an aro/ace kinky woman, i feel so seen here.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
I’m so glad!!
@jazzy4550
@jazzy4550 Месяц назад
I never comment but this totally changed my perspective on my asexuality. The sensual attraction is something I’ve experienced before with my gf and it’s always confused me so much. To hear someone say that sex doesn’t have to come after means so much today. Thank you so much for putting this content out here. ❤️❤️❤️
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
I’m so glad this helped you! Being ace is very confusing sometimes ❤️
@Shaggy-lu6dz
@Shaggy-lu6dz 2 месяца назад
I really vibed with your opinion on "enthusiastic" consent being a somewhat problematic term for some ace ppl such as myself where it's more like a "yeah sure" sort of situation most of the time.
@GlassMelon
@GlassMelon 9 месяцев назад
Sex is in our heads. Literally yes lol Glad RU-vid recommended this. :3
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Aces understand that immediately haha
@nazguldecim
@nazguldecim 8 месяцев назад
thank you for making this video! I´m coming to term with my asexuality in the last few months. I thought of me beeing ace for way longer tho but because I enjoy kink in alot of ways I thouth that I can´t be ace because most people think of kink in a very sexual way. I knew that the ace spectrum is very broad but I have problems with giving myselfe the freedom that I give others (this also applies to my gender and sexual identity). So this video helps me a lot to be more confident about my asexuality!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 8 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful! You deserve to be confident about who you are :)
@vladshome
@vladshome 17 дней назад
wow. this was eye opening. i have often struggled with calling myself ace but this video put alot of things into perspective. I wasn't even aware of the difference between sensual and sexual interactions. Explains why i enjoy some things but other (more expected) things feel like nothing. I have a lot to think about but thank you for making this. thank you so much
@Unseelie01
@Unseelie01 Месяц назад
Hey! I wanted to say thank you for making this video. Slightly older aroace here who recently stumbled upon aego ("Hey.. I think I really like this here lgbtq+ spicy romance--") you hit the nail on the head in terms of a number of details including the intellectualizing of sex. I joke to myself that I basically had to "teach myself 'sex'" in terms of when allosexual people mean it, talk about it, etc. I think as a slightly older person on aspec, I've had the tendency to stay at arms' length from all things that MIGHT be interpreted as sexual for fear of 'giving people the wrong impression'. Your video gives space to process these ideas (sensuality, power dynamics, navigating the increments of consent) without feeling like doing so is somehow "doing aroace wrong."
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
Oh wow, that is such a compliment! Thank you so much, and I'm so happy it gave you the space and time to process ❤
@alieneleni
@alieneleni 3 месяца назад
everything about this video is so validating. thank you. you’re saying some things i’ve been trying to put to words for a while.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
I'm so so happy this is connecting some dots for you and validating your experience and identity! That's exactly what I was hoping for :)
@JakeHuntersman
@JakeHuntersman 11 дней назад
Omg this is actually a great explanation, Ive been trying to find a way to explain this as someone who is ace sex neutral leaning towards avoidant but kink sounds a lot more pleasing than actual sex (I’ve never done anything kinky but Im going based on what I know of it)
@roguewolf128
@roguewolf128 9 месяцев назад
I'm so glad for this video, I think about this often as an arro-ace that's on the fringe of the kink community(I'd be more involved if I had funds outside of survival). For me the kink community is as open and willing to learn about people's sexuality and wants that are not a part of the puritanical propaganda that a majority of society has internalized, at least in my opinion. Along with being open, I go when I can to see if anything sparks in me, but so far nothing irl has done so. I wish we could have more conversations about sex and kink without it getting weird with strait cis people, but it feels like it always ends with them getting weirded out that sex talk not leading to sex. Maybe it's just me, lol
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Definitely not just you, I think a lot of aces feel the same way. I know for me, sex is almost always an intellectual topic, so I never feel weird talking about it with literally any and everyone. Straight, allosexual people do get weird about it though, I think because it turns them on?
@roguewolf128
@roguewolf128 9 месяцев назад
@@meghansandor I think allo's, especially cis straight have had to deal with the weird dichotomy of being both shamed and flooded with "sexual" imagery. Which is weird in it's self because it seems almost anything outside of bodies having sex could be considered sexual. I also feel like not everyone has the same(ish) understanding of what sexual even means to themselves, just kind of agreeing with whomever has the most conviction in their voice, be it family, friends and/or media. That's how I see it at least.
@mysteriousmoth
@mysteriousmoth 9 месяцев назад
This is the first video on your channel I've watched, and omg it's good!! I'm currently still figuring out a lot of things about myself, but I'm thinking that I might be ace, sex-positive and kinky myself, and evereything you've said made so much sense for me!!! Especially thinking back how I felt during past relationships and talking with other people about kink, I noticed that I'm interested in it, but not necessarily in the same way as them! Thank you so much for this video, and keep up the good work!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your kind words, and I’m so glad it helped clarify some things for you! I will keep making content like this, I’m so glad it’s helping people :)
@scientistservant
@scientistservant 18 дней назад
I'm on the ace-spectrum and am sexually attracted to certain fictional characters - specifically non-humans and anthros, so much so that I have ocs/self-inserts that I pair them up with. Kink positive as well! I don't ever want sex in real life, but I'm much more happy imagining myself kissing a character anyway kdlfkds
@JuliaBeathrice
@JuliaBeathrice 12 дней назад
Wow thank you so much for this video!!! It is a way to process trauma for me for sure, I love to imagine all sorts of scenarios because it makes me feel very emotional and it feels healing. I am so glad I am not alone
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 6 дней назад
I'm glad it helped you! That's always my goal.
@estherarun8340
@estherarun8340 4 месяца назад
Wait, I'm exploring my sexuality, and while it doesn't happen often, I have felt what I consider to be clear sexual attraction towards men. I feel greater sexual attraction towards celebrities I idolize and find people infinitely more sexy with their clothes on than off, though I don't have the sexual experience to corroborate that fact and I suspect that might be tied more into my feelings about the human body, muscles, and blood. However, the moment you said sex was largely in the mind, I instantly understood? Me exploring my options is largely a thing that's been happening in recent years, but even way before then, I always suspected sex was a thing the mind is excited by, that the body also enjoys, but there may be a disconnect somewhere where the body is sexuality excited by things the mind is uninterested in. So a function of the body is to feel sexual attraction, but the mind is where the interest comes from? I don't quite know where this leaves me, because from what I've written, I am seeing an attraction to men that counts as sexual, but also a reticence?
@hanniflowers
@hanniflowers 4 месяца назад
That's funny, I've also described sex to doing the dishes to my allo friends! Can be satisfying, can be fun if you're with someone whose company you enjoy, but mostly boring, kinda gross, and i wouldn't choose to do it
@dagonxanith686
@dagonxanith686 7 месяцев назад
I am on the gray ace/asexual spectrum. I am more on the averse side to absolute indifference but that doesn't mean there rare exceptions for me or they are times I am human being with human being needs and struggling to figure out how to safely get those needs met. I honestly don't do it well. I really suck at being someone's lover and this is something I rarely have ever wanted but even then its not always hundred percent all the time. Its complicated and very personal. For me it often like I was trapped in ghost town. And simply being someone who it feels like I am surrounded by people that I can't connect with in same ways others did. I see on the outside what I imagine is how others do kink or relationships and I don't experience it the same ways. Thing change over time like when I was in my teens things were different. I often totally out of control and was going with the flow of my chaotic mess. Things I did in my teens where everything was all about whatever pressure or breaking the rules seeking out adventures and constant negative reality with few pockets of acceptance in small corners of that time to my life. As I got older things changed, except for the whole "ghost town feeling of no people" that experience never entirely went away even in middle of few times I had sex. The kink scene was more of adrenaline thing than actual always pleasurable me I was just always really shut down as I got older it actually really bothered me. I wanted to be liberated person who just had lot of kinky, sexy fun but reality was something else happen. Its not something want to get into in details but I was grateful a short in my 20's where I got to experiment with s&m without all the pressure for short time but I never really wanted regular sexual relationships except when I did and often promptly regret it. Overtime things got weirdly dysfunctional for me, so I take lot of long breaks. The community can be harder that it advertises itself to be if you're struggling with certain things in your life around the subject. Its not always safe all the time. For some people they assume its going to be about sex and don't get that isn't for everyone. Then there is whole FOMO aspect to if you're different than everyone else thinking/fear of missing out of all things you don't get have. Lot of kink has to deal with whom you connect with and if that is struggle its not easy for you like it was for me than its harder to belong to that community. Endlessly only hooking up with strangers definitely had toll on me to point I really couldn't do it any more. It wasn't liberating it just made me hate myself for not being perfect.
@cameronmiller2214
@cameronmiller2214 Месяц назад
I thought sex positive just meant you don't kink shame
@Cr0mic
@Cr0mic 4 месяца назад
This actually helped me figure out myself more than I thought! I feel seen more than I've been by other video explanations, very helpful, tyyyyy :>🙌
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
I’m so glad, it’s such an honour to have been able to bring you something that was valuable in that way. I’m so happy it made you feel seen❤️❤️❤️
@jackskellingtonsora
@jackskellingtonsora 7 дней назад
Oh for sure. I have no problem walking into a kinky space in the sense of it's not scary for me to be around something sexual or kinky in the way that a sexual person might feel. It's the part where you have to sit there talking to people that turns me off from it. Like you said, as well, sex is entirely in my head. Walking into a kinky space is kind of a turn off because of that as well. It's more interesting in fantasy than in reality.
@tony_two
@tony_two 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for making this video! It was really helpful to me.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
I’m so glad it was helpful!
@defaultdanceonem
@defaultdanceonem 28 дней назад
I was questioning if I might be asexual until I watched this video. I felt so called out by every part of this, especially the part about fanfiction. Now I'm sure I'm asexual.
@timschantz3233
@timschantz3233 3 месяца назад
I did not know there were kink flags. Looks like I need to do some "research."
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
There are quite a few kink flags! I learned.
@evarinagarmguardian113
@evarinagarmguardian113 14 дней назад
I think this video explained my entire life, even before I knew I was aroace spec! I'm pretty sure I'm somewhere between sex-averse and neutral, but definitely have a libido. I've always used fictional characters in my imagined stories growing up doing a specific action that I always found gratifying since I was young. However, if I ever witnessed that same action irl, I'd freak! Now, I look for that specific action in fanfic/a specific kink community (and still imagine it) and thoroughly enjoy it, but again, if it became real, I'd nope the hell out of there. For me, this has and always will be a fantasy.
@Blu3Spot
@Blu3Spot 3 месяца назад
I dont identify as asexual and i had met someone recently who is and told me they were into kink. I had never considered that a possibility and sfter watching this video i totally get it. Even got me thinkign if im demisexual or even on the ace sepctrum. I dont initiate sex and am unenthuesed half the time, i have fantasies but when playing them out irl, i just am so turned off, i really want to get into kink
@asharpnotbflat
@asharpnotbflat Месяц назад
I’m a sex averse ace who enjoys vore. (Usually I wouldn’t admit that but happy pride month) I was born that way so my relationship to my kink is just that RPing it or fantasizing about it etc. excites me mentally and physically, But I wouldn’t relate it to sex in any way. I think sex is gross and I’ve been jumpscared by porn videos of people doing it when I’m just trying to find some vore stuff I like. So for me specifically, being a sex averse ace, kink has nothing to do with anything typically considered sex. I honestly have no clue how it feels to be aroused by the concept of sex, and people think I’m weird for being aroused by vore, when it’s all I’ve ever known and not finding it exciting would be completely foreign to me. I’d say my kink is the main dimension of my sexuality despite it having nothing to do with the typical idea of sex. For some reason I’m also only attracted to anthropomorphic object characters, so fantasies usually include them. I’m a furry but for objects I guess, which as far as I can tell doesn’t even have a name. Someone might claim I have sexual trauma or something, but nope. I have no clue why I’m like this, I was just born that way. Anyway, thanks for your videos on asexuality!
@dinosaysrawr
@dinosaysrawr 9 месяцев назад
I follow a content creator who is ace and also very much into feet, and know a number of kinky ace people personally who are into things like fat fetishism and BDSM, and I've always wondered how that works. Thanks for delving into this topic!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
And thank YOU for the anecdotes! :) That does not surprise me at all, we have to get pretty creative sometimes in order to feel attraction
@amberrichards2778
@amberrichards2778 5 месяцев назад
My spouse is ace (fluctuating between sex-averse and sex-neutral) and is VERY kinky. We do 24/7 TPE. If you have any questions, I can answer them from my perspective as an allosexual person in a relationship with them. I can also ask them questions if you have any for them. ❤
@gstrathmore194
@gstrathmore194 5 месяцев назад
What is TPE?
@amberrichards2778
@amberrichards2778 5 месяцев назад
@@gstrathmore194 it stands for Total Power Exchange. TPE means something different for anyone that participates but for us it means, essentially, that they can do whatever they like, whenever they like to me. We have HEAVILY negotiated this, and the other part of it is that they have absolute responsibility over me. Anything that they do, they also have to take full responsibility for.
@wesleybarrett9502
@wesleybarrett9502 4 месяца назад
So this coming from a very allosexual Pansexual person whom just so happens to find Grey and Demisexual partners. I understand the less exuberant version of consent but not fully from the aro specum. I do feel consent needs to be understood as long as all parties are open to it, but exuberant consent isn't always needed. So I have been openly Poly and Pansexual for 12+ years, and I have had several sex positive individuals in the aro-ace spectrum. I myself am grey romantic, but I usually have a strong sexual drive and desire. So my first mistress and first partner I had in an open poly relationship has come out a greysexual. It was something that did affect our dynamic and later on in time changed it completely, but it had more to do with my current spouse than the dynamic why we changed our relationship. With her it was very much so consent based and I as the submissice would ask for sexual play if needed, and we would help meet our needs. Also, with her I was a service bottom. My Spouse and current primary partner has expressed some demisexual tendencies with the aspect of they have strong sexual and sensual drive but only with those they feel close to. They only get sexual with those they are intimate with, and I am the exact opposite sometimes. Remember above I am greyromantic. The difference is I can develop very deep emotional intimacy without romantic feelings. Also, kink for me is a therapeutic and ritualistic aspect of my life, and Kink has helped me as a neurodivergent person and always embraced it as an aspect of myself.
@JaspersSpace
@JaspersSpace Месяц назад
This video blew my mind... from an autistic, kinky, potential ace thank you so much
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
I'm so glad it was helpful!
@harjotjassal9180
@harjotjassal9180 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video Meghan 🙂
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Harjot!
@Daveinbangormaine
@Daveinbangormaine 9 месяцев назад
This is really interesting Meghan. I learned a lot.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave! I'm glad it was informative :)
@WizardOfTheHills
@WizardOfTheHills 2 месяца назад
This video is definitely going on my list of recommended videos to watch if you think that you are Ace. Most of my Ace friends definitely prefer sex alone rather than with another person. One even said that when they were having sex with another person, it felt more like they were having sex with a self-cleaning, voice operated sex-toy, than a person. My own story is that I am a kinky, ND, Sex-favorable gray-ace person with a high libido, lots of sex-toys, who like watching porn. I discovered that I was ace at the age of 47. I discovered it by coincidence. I watched a video on what it means to be ace. I could relate to almost everything that was said in that video. Having a high libido was confusing though. I took several free tests available on the web. 2 said that I was Ace, 2 said that I wasn’t Ace, and finally 2 said ”Inconclusive, take some more tests”. Eventually I stumbled on a couple of videos explaining that you can be ace and still have a high libido, and there is such a thing as being a sex-favorable ace. Digging deeper I found that there are many ways to be ace, not just the archetypical media representation of the sex-repulsed aro-ace person. I even found an article with a list of 199 sexual orientations under the ace umbrella.
@federicolautarohohmann9035
@federicolautarohohmann9035 8 месяцев назад
I dont idenitfy myself as an ace, but i think this is very special for me. I feel sexuala traction to people or situations, so ia m not asexual in the pure sense of word. However, i dont like the idea of sex itself... i just like people and some situations/stimuli, but not s o much sex itself. Of fact, i thought i was asexual until 13 because i didn't feel so sexuala tracttion or sex desire before that. Neither, i dont like nudity at all (of fact, i love latex and thus). So, this video was a omen for me.
@Krista-388
@Krista-388 2 месяца назад
this is very eye opening. what i thought was sexual, are actually my sensory needs!
@AjedrElx
@AjedrElx 2 месяца назад
Congratulation!!!😊
@rosaannarilli4905
@rosaannarilli4905 9 месяцев назад
Wow Meghan, this was quite interesting! All I have to say about this topic is that I am glad I'm not married anymore. I don't need to please anyone and I can just be who I am! I'm not interested in dating or having sex with anyone. To me sex is overrated and it does not interest me at all!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Being able to be who you are is the best feeling :) I'm glad you can do that now!
@aniakonda1479
@aniakonda1479 3 месяца назад
OMG. I LOVE THIS VIDEO. NOW I'M 100% SURE THAT I'M AN ACE. THANK YOU
@Nia_Nightart
@Nia_Nightart 2 месяца назад
Yes...
@-inthevalley-
@-inthevalley- 21 день назад
I identify as Aromantic and Asexual averse, so my experience with sex and love in general isn’t much, but my experience with kinks has me triggering only my libido if that makes any sense. Also I never knew that other people also fantasize about sex but would never do it, which had me genuinely tearing up 🥺😅
@PeacefulPorcupine
@PeacefulPorcupine 6 месяцев назад
I've never actually tried kink, nobody has been able to explain it, but I completely understand the rage about consent. I had friends rip into me in college for wanting to try sexual things out, because I would be "making them a r!!!ist". All while I was getting hit with the "I can fix that", once from the same people.
@Knitting_in_seattle
@Knitting_in_seattle 9 месяцев назад
I’m ace and I agree it makes total sense to me
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Right?! I get so confused by other peoples' confusion about this. Like of course there are tons of kinky aces...kink isn't about sex.
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
No TMI? Thank you!
@medmed5436
@medmed5436 3 месяца назад
20:50 WHOS KIDINKSTI PLZ I LOVE THAT PAINTING BUT IVE NEVER HEARD OF THE ARTIST... WHO R THEY....
@arinyana
@arinyana 3 месяца назад
it's Kandinsky, Composition VII
@medmed5436
@medmed5436 3 месяца назад
@@arinyana thank you sm!!!!
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
Is that hair Anna Wintour inspired?
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Nope, just hate having long hair :)
@claytoncrawford3167
@claytoncrawford3167 9 месяцев назад
Meghan.... You are the most incredable speaker and you communicate most excellent.... This is a most excellent vlog...
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@Mialotic
@Mialotic 2 месяца назад
Acey kink goodness👌
@dantanskymonsterhunter
@dantanskymonsterhunter 2 месяца назад
Thanks, the garlic bread is on me!
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
Read up on RU-vid algorithm. Every time I come back to this is another "view". And every thumbs up is another like. EXPLOITATION!
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
Meghan: What do you know about the hypothalamus and pituitary. I'm late to this "party" but sexuality and this brain system are locked together.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
I don’t know much about this but I’m sure there’s something to it!
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
@@meghansandor Endocrinology is the real Satan. I was indoctrinated religiously as a teenager, tormented by my alleged "sinfulness". Had to grow up and learn anatomy. Discovered evolution implanted "Satanic" urges in primates (maybe every mammal). Hypothalamus triggers pituitary, pituitary then floods vital organs with triggers for arousal. Stupid theologians never knew any science.
@JimMork
@JimMork 9 месяцев назад
Wish I could see Meghan in her Barbie costume. Might be humorous.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 21 день назад
7:30 I disagree here. Allosexuals do not all consider sex a necessity (certain incels and married Christians might, but the wider allosexual population? No). It bothers me how ace people consistenty talk about allosexuals like we're sex-crazed or always talking about sex when we aren't. This is partly why so many allosexuals dispute asexuality (even if I personally don't dispute it and think ace people are valid), because ace experiences of disinterest or neutrality towards sex or finding sex boring are experiences allo and ace people share more often than not. It can feel like the line between the two is blurred to the point of invisibility, which is what frustrates a lot of allos in discussions of asexuality, because those experiences aren't ace-exclusive. No shade, just felt it needed to be brought up.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 20 дней назад
That's a good point, and I think it bears reflecting on, especially because it lends itself to broader quesrions about the over-emphasis of sex in our culture in general, which doesn't just marginalize ace folk, as you very rightly pointed out. I think what asexual people are referring to specifically when we talk about the ubiquitousness of sex is allosxual CULTURE rather than individual allo folk. It's similar to how queer folk like to poke fun of straight people every now and then, on subreddits like Are The Straights Okay? and other forums and platforms that serve as outlets for queer frustration at being marginalized. Ace folk often feel marginalized by both queer AND heterosexual communities, so being a little judgy about allo folk is our way of punching up every now and again.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
@@meghansandor That's fair (also sorry in advance for how biting my reply to my comment about your statement on ace assessment of sexual attraction is, I feel you could've phrased it a lot better since it reads as an implicit dismissal of allosexuals' ability to asses our own thoughts and ideas rather than a statement on how detachment can provide a different perspective on it, which is what you might have meant but which really didn't come through in your phrasing of it). I think also extending this critique into mainstream discourse (specifically in a way that brings ace perspectives to the forefront) might help allos realise that a. ace people are people, b. ace people are valid and c. ace and allo people have a lot more in common than otherwise thought and that everyone could benefit from allowing room for not wanting sex or just generally not pathologising sex neutrality and sex aversion or repulsion.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
@@meghansandor I also love those subreddits. I'm in a weird spot in that I am very clearly on people's gaydar yet can pass as straight to most people because I've noticed a lot of straight people seem to assume if you dress in a vintage style (my hair naturally goes into a 1930s style wavy vintage bob somehow and I have naturally full lips similar to the lip shape that was popular in the 1940s, so anything that's remotely formal looks vintage on me) you must also like "traditional values" or be otherwise straight, which I find funny. I'm pan in that I find most people physically attractive and not sure if I'm allo or ace atm as I do not seek sex but am open to it unless it's the only reason someone wants my company. I can have sexual intimacy with a friend every time we hang out and enjoy it, provided I know and feel that they do not only seek my company for that purpose. Since then it becomes a dreaded expectation, and makes hanging out tense. I also unfortunately find it hard to participate in the wider kink community (that is, irl meetups, sessions, munches, etc.) in my area beyond just conversationally. We've started a kink society at my university (for educational and social purposes so kinksters can feel accepted and understood) to try and help people like myself with this. I find Evie Lupine's discussion of the kink community to be focussed on people who do meetups and she doesn't leave much room for people who's only opportunities to experience kink are alone or online. Which is why I think her attempts to seperate kink and porn are unhelpful. Yes, porn is not necessarily an accurate representation of kink, but it also isn't an accurate representation of vanilla things either. For some people (like me and as you mentioned in the later sections of the video) fanfiction and similar things may be the main way we interact with or express kink, and I think that should be considered part of the wider community. Evie is great, I just don't get her hangups around this. Whether I'm ace or not, I just think more people should hear about the experiences you described in this video, as a lot more people than just the ace community are likely to relate to them.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
This also isn't strictly related to asexuality and instead more about questioning compulsory sexuality and sexualisation. Me and my mate are writing a DC AU and while we're not changing Bruce Wayne much from his interpretation in Btas and the Arkham games, we felt it strange how the fact Bruce Wayne is an alternate persona he keeps up largely for appearances sake hasn't been tackled from the angle of performative sexuality and such. He's "billionaire Bachelor Bruce Wayne" with many women depicted as throwing themselves at him and him largely brushing them off. I doubt he chose the title himself, the assumption that he's a bachelor (i.e. single and "ready to mingle"). I can imagine it all being overwhelming especially if this title was put on him leading up to adulthood, similar to how many young celebrities have a countdown to their birthdays. Even if he enjoys it sometimes, a lot of it would be performative, as if to say "nothing to see here folks! Totaly just a himbo tech bro like you guys want and expect and not a reclusive caped crusader! ^^". I am also hesitent to confirm his orientation, as I see a. Men being assumed to always want sex, b. having refusal of advances being chalked up purely to one's orientation (implying if Bruce was straight he'd somehow like what Talia did to him, which is stupid but I've seen similar arguments made in irl situations) disrespective of the validity of the refusal on its own, and c. Pathologising said orientations and refusals. By keeping Bruce interpretable as allo (any orientation) or ace, I feel it leaves the focus on how abhorrant what Talia does to Bruce to be the focus and that it would be emotionally painful regardless of orientation. Also, because Zatana was another person Bruce initialy trained with before becoming Batman, I imagine what Talia does will make it hard for him to trust her anymore (a friend from the same time in his life, who was also a bit of a mentor figure) and she tries to both give him space but also figure out how to be there for him without overstepping the new boundary. This was an infodump, sorry, but I felt it was worth bringing up because questionin compulsory sexuality is something I'm itching to help people do and felt the conversation fit nicely with Bruce's existing canon lore.
@Daveinbangormaine
@Daveinbangormaine 9 месяцев назад
Good afternoon Meghan.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Hi!
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
Something I have noticed while trying to learn about asexuality and whether it applies to me is how PERSISTENT ace people are in (not in the context of humour, but deadpan seriousness) repeatedly thinking that having the ability to experience sexual attraction means one a. Cannot distinguish or experience and appretiate other forms of attraction, b. Do not participate in loving platonic, romantic or otherwise not exclusively sexual relationships, and c. Is mentally or emotionally stunted (heavily implied by the baby-talk online ace spaces apply in discussions of allosexuality, sex attraction and how things such as kink aren't inherently sexual). Even as I relate more to asexuality and make irl ace friends, the online ace community is kind of pants if I'm honest.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 21 день назад
Your point about ace people being able to speak the most objectively about sex (on the basis of not being biased by enjoyment) is utter nonsense. Does experiencing gender euphoria make someone inherently unqualified to discuss gender? Does enjoying painting mean I cannot objectively discuss the pros and cons of various styles and techniques? By your own logic you would be unable to objectively discuss kink because you yourself enjoy kink. Your claim is very pretentious and frankly I'm a bit tired of ace people treating their views about kink and sex as the objective truth when it is but one of many perspectives.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 20 дней назад
My point wasn't that we can speak objectively about sex, it's that many ace folk can speak more objectively about sexual attraction, which is not the same thing as sex :) We can also speak more objectively about how big of a role sex plays in cis-hetero-allo-monogamous culture, as can many queer people, because we experience sex and attraction very differently from the ways in which many allo people do. I also didn't make this video for staight, allo folk, I made for other queer and ace folk who lack adequate representation and want to be seen and heard and have their experiences validated, and who are trying to make sense of their relationships to things like attraction and kink.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
@@meghansandor I am queer and poly, please don't assume my demographic.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
@@meghansandor I also know that sexual attraction is not the same as sex. You are being deliberately condescending. You are lumping together heterosexual, allosexual and monogamous cultures as if they always intersect / exist as one larger group (ace versus everyone else), creating a false dichotomy instead of critqueing compulsory sexuality related topics with any actual nuance.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
@@meghansandor Please elaborate on your bold, unsubstantiated claim that "ace people do not put as much weight or importance on sex (you specifically said sex in that statement, not sexual attraction, which is why I specifically said sex and not sexual attraction, not -as you assumed- because apparently all allos conflate the two) ace people are uniquely very good at talking about sex objectively". From my experience, ace people are not impeccable at distinguishing feelings of sexual, sensual, emotional dynamics, ideas or intimacy, rather they often are only just figuring out those distinctions now (after realising they're ace, not from "the cradle" as you also said) and often conflate personal feelings of disgust, neutrality or adoration with objective fact. I am sick of judgemental people using their identity as a way to excuse their bashing of how other queer people and kinksters live their lives. That is my issue with your statement.
@SteppefordWife
@SteppefordWife 19 дней назад
Detachment from a feeling provides specifically an external perspective, not an objective one. Would you say you cannot assess your own feelings of platonic love objectively because you feel platonic love? Are rich politicians the most able to speak objectively about the struggles of the working poor because they aren't affected by them? Your reason for why you think ace people can speak most objectively about sexual attraction is not sensible and comes off as an excuse to be patronising towards people you don't relate to.
@insainitypanda7609
@insainitypanda7609 7 месяцев назад
Hi, I'm absolutely late to this party, but I am a sex-repulsed Ace, and I can confirm that yes I still have kinks. I wouldn't go into the detail in a RU-vid comment section but since you had asked in the video I thought I would pop in and let you know that yes, it does happen. Thanks for spreading awareness 🖤🤍💜.
@luxill0s
@luxill0s 7 месяцев назад
I’m also late to the party and a sex-repulsed ace! The idea of actual sex is offputting to me but the idea of erotic scenarios and intimacy is not. I guess people conflate sex and eroticism in their heads so frequently that the idea of there being a distinction is confusing, but there certainly is one for me!!
@kebah11
@kebah11 5 месяцев назад
Also late to the party and sex averse/repulsed ace! I’m very kinky and can even occasionally feel physically aroused by certain kinks but in no way related to attraction to a persons body or wanting sex. But the sensual aspect and emotional aspect of kink is the big thing for me. Especially the emotional like holy heck. I just crave non sexual intimacy so much.
@spruceandsquirrel
@spruceandsquirrel 12 дней назад
Thank you SO much for this, I learned a lot. 💜🤍🩶🖤
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 6 дней назад
I'm so glad it was helpful!
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