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Polyamory, Relationship Anarchy & Queerplatonic Partnerships: Are They Really the Same Thing? 

Meghan Sandor
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Have you ever been curious about radical relationships? This is a brief look at polyamory, relationship anarchy, queerplatonic partnerships and queerplatonic relationships through the lens of asexuality.
💜🤍🩶🖤RESOURCES💜🤍🩶🖤
The Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN): www.asexuality.org/
Asexual Awareness Week: aceweek.org/
Asexuality 101: www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-c...
The Invisible Orientation: time.com/2889469/asexual-orie...
The Canadian Centre for Gender & Sexual Diversity (they're inclusive of asexuality): ccgsd-ccdgs.org/
Asexual Info Booklet: www.equality-network.org/wp-c...
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@ABCNews "Platonic Life Partners" - • Platonic life partners...
@AnRel "What is Relationship Anarchy?" - • What Is Relationship A...
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"Asexual Rights" - www.aasect.org/asexual-rights
"7 Things You Might Not Know About Conversion Therapy" -
www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us...
"I Think I Might Be Asexual" - advocatesforyouth.org/wp-cont...
"What is Relationship Anarchy?" - www.mindbodygreen.com/article...
"What is Relationship Anarchy and is it for You?" - www.marriage.com/advice/save-...
"Married vs. Common-Law: What's the Difference?" - www.lawnow.org/married-vs-com...
"Is Getting Married a Bad Deal for Women?" -
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"This is Why Men Benefit From Marriage More Than Women" -
heragenda.com/p/this-is-why-m...
"Why Women Revel in the Ritual of Being Single" - www.flashpack.com/solo/relati...
"Is Marriage a Terrible Deal for Women?" - www.psychologytoday.com/ca/bl...
"What You Lose When You Gain a Spouse" - www.theatlantic.com/family/ar...
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@buggy9094
@buggy9094 5 месяцев назад
I’ve felt a level of connection with the aro/ace community for a long time but always felt like something was missing. This video gave me a lot of really interesting things to think about so that I can reevaluate my relationship with romantic and platonic attraction in a more nuanced way. Thank you so much!!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
I’m glad it resonated and that you were able to get some dots connected!
@dameanvil
@dameanvil 4 месяца назад
00:00 🎥 The video provides an overview of polyamory, relationship anarchy, and queerplatonic partnerships. 02:21 🔍 Polyamory involves loving, committed relationships with multiple partners, based on informed consent and ongoing communication. 05:36 📚 Relationship Anarchy applies anarchist principles to personal relationships, valuing all connections equally regardless of their type. 08:24 🔄 Polyamory should not be used to fix existing monogamous relationships; it requires trust, communication, and mutual consent among all partners. 11:52 🌐 There are various forms of polyamory, including hierarchical and non-hierarchical structures, each with its own dynamics and complexities. 15:48 🏴‍☠ Relationship Anarchy challenges societal norms by deconstructing hierarchies and questioning the prioritization of romantic relationships over other types of connections. 17:40 🔍 Relationship Anarchy aims to dismantle coercive romantic norms, allowing partners to maximize autonomy. 18:08 💭 Relationship Anarchy is a philosophy applicable to various relationship structures, not just polyamory. 18:37 🏳‍🌈 Relationship Anarchy values unique connections, challenging traditional relationship milestones. 19:21 💑 Love and respect over entitlement: Relationship Anarchy discourages pressuring partners based on societal norms. 20:43 💡 Find your core relationship values, respecting personal boundaries regardless of societal expectations. 21:25 🚫 Reject heteronormative pressure, challenging societal views of what constitutes a valid relationship. 21:54 🌱 Embrace the unexpected, allowing relationships to evolve naturally without predefined expectations. 22:23 🛠 Address jealousy and disappointment through self-reflection and open communication in Relationship Anarchy. 23:05 🤝 Trust is fundamental; assume partners have the best intentions and communicate openly about needs. 24:46 🔄 Customize commitments in Relationship Anarchy, avoiding societal norms to prioritize genuine connections. 25:28 🌐 Relationship Anarchy is inclusive and adaptable, differing from polyamory by rejecting hierarchy. 26:09 📜 Legal and financial systems often favor traditional relationships, excluding alternative structures like polyamory and Relationship Anarchy. 27:49 🎓 Adulthood is often defined by societal and marital status, neglecting internal emotional and intellectual growth. 29:00 🔄 The relationship escalator dictates societal expectations of love and progression, excluding diverse relationship styles. 31:36 🏳‍🌈 Queer platonic partnerships challenge norms of romantic and sexual love, providing deep connections without traditional expectations. 34:20 🏠 Historical examples of queer platonic partnerships demonstrate long-term companionship beyond romantic and sexual norms. 35:30 💡 Queer platonic relationships exist between platonic and romantic feelings, often without a sexual component. 36:38 🤔 Personal experiences with polyamory highlight the importance of healthy communication and understanding motivations. 38:14 💑 While some find fulfillment in monogamous relationships, others thrive in non-hierarchical queer platonic partnerships. 39:25 🔥 Navigating shifts in romantic relationships, such as transitioning to domestic partnerships, can be profound but may not suit everyone's desires. 42:15 🌈 Ideal relationships may involve nested queer platonic partnerships, allowing for deep connections while maintaining personal autonomy. 44:18 🏠 Domestic labor and emotional support play crucial roles in relationship satisfaction, challenging traditional gender roles and assumptions.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for this summary!! This is very helpful :)
@dameanvil
@dameanvil 4 месяца назад
@@meghansandor Your video is very helpful, and expresses the ideas in a clear manner. Thank you. I think youtube needs more creators like yourself.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
@@dameanvil thank you for the kind words! That means a lot :)
@tallonhunter3663
@tallonhunter3663 9 месяцев назад
Ace Autistic dude here... YES FOR THE DOMESTIC LABOR VID! I grew up within a divorced narcissist powerstruggle so on top of not understanding people (autistic) not understanding sexual relationships (ace) i just don't understand what to do much of the time. Also just found out as a result of this i largely operate as relationship anarchist due to "any port in a storm" as well as trust issues around finacial abuse/apologies for abuse. Thanks for sharing that. Uncomfortable infodump over!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing! It sounds like you had a tough time, I hope you were able to find a sense of stability eventually.
@p0etrygh0st
@p0etrygh0st 9 месяцев назад
I think hierarchical polyamory is interesting in that we often have a hierarchy in our friendships also.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
That’s very true! And it definitely works really well for a lot of people :)
@blackswan4486
@blackswan4486 7 месяцев назад
I can't imagine hierarchy could ever work well. Just sounds like a magnet for noncommittal, abusive, and triangulating type people...@@meghansandor
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 7 месяцев назад
@@blackswan4486 there are noncommittal, abusive and triangulating people in all kinds of relationship structures, monogamy too. PERSONALLY I don't think I would do well with hierarchical poly, but a lot of people do, especially if you tend to be anxiously attached, it can help to have an anchor partner. It just depends on the person, their mental health, their emotional/relational needs and their situation. Just because something wouldn't work well for YOU, doesn't mean it doesn't work well for others, and I firmly believe that we shouldn't judge others for how they choose to conduct their relationships, as long as they're being conducted ethically and with everyone's informed consent :)
@blackswan4486
@blackswan4486 7 месяцев назад
@@meghansandor anchor partner does not mean hierarchy
@blackswan4486
@blackswan4486 7 месяцев назад
@@meghansandor also, is it fair to the other partners to be fundamentally secondary? I would not want to be in a relationship where somebody said “you will never be that important to me“. I personally don’t believe in non-judgmental attitude. It just means that we won’t judge things that should be judged.
@jeanettemorales6062
@jeanettemorales6062 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this excellent & informative video! We need more frank conversations about these type of relationships. Yes, communication is one of the most important aspects of any relationship. Humans live complicated, messy lives at times. Again, thanks for sharing Meghan. You're awesome🥰
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the kind words! I definitely agree that we need more conversations around and acceptance of alternative relationship styles!
@dumbloser666
@dumbloser666 5 месяцев назад
i was raised mormon, stopped believing at 18, and even with all my progressive thoughts at a surprisingly early age, i still have that internalized amatanormativity that marriage is the best ever even tho im also a-spec and poly 😭 ill often catch myself when seeing an average gf/bf couple and worrying on their behalf they have an expiration date bc they arent engaged and im like 😦😦 erm what the scallop no?? i dont even know if i want to get married and there are PLENTY of non-engaged couples who are just as serious as married ones. it really sucks when u have some belief instilled in u from a young age that u dont believe anymore yet still have to deal with because unlearning takes work
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
Oof I feel that so hard. I have a lot of internalized amatanormativity too. My partner and I have been together for 4 and a half years and marriage wouldn't work for us, but I still catch myself thinking sometimes that we're not a "real" couple. But we are! It sucks when society presents only one image of relationships and doesn't leave room for people to explore and figure out what actually works for THEM
@jpatrick113
@jpatrick113 8 месяцев назад
Man, your videos are PACKED full of good information. I have to get out a notebook and take notes when I watch them. Thanks!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 8 месяцев назад
Glad you like them!
@serasilva8214
@serasilva8214 Месяц назад
I have never heard of relationship anarchy before! Quite interesting. I've heard of values and relationship styles that align with it, but not that specific term. Queerplatonic and poly relationships have existed in my radar ever since I've considered I may be aromantic as far back as middle school (it's still up in the air). First because poly seemed to accept atypical dynamics and then discovering the term qp later on. I think it is lovely that people have come together with communities and names for connections that do not conform to set societal roles. I have abstained from relationships outside of family and typical friendship due to a variety of reasons, but if I ever do enter anything more complex, I would imagine it would be something along these lines. Thank you for the video :)
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
Thank you for your comment! I'm so glad you found terminology and labels to be helpful, I also think it's important to have names and words for things because it's a way to collectively formulate our experiences and build community around them!
@sleidkssk
@sleidkssk 9 месяцев назад
Being able to like this video only once doesn't feel like it does justice I find your videos really refreshing and certainly look forward to seeing more from you! 💜
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! I will definitely post more along these lines, a lot of people have been saying that they find them helpful and I'm so happy and honoured to be able to clarify some things
@Madamekittylein
@Madamekittylein 18 дней назад
Totally agree!! I need to see more in depth discussions about relationship anarchy, queer platonic partnerships and alterous attraction ❤❤❤
@thegoldenfox283
@thegoldenfox283 4 месяца назад
Society’s laws around marriage make it more about money than actually anything else
@serenediipity
@serenediipity 3 месяца назад
this video is so well explained! i think what turned me off from non-monogamy for the longest time was i assumed most poly relationships were hierarchal and also the worry of getting less attention than another partner. i'm aroace-spec with bpd and an anxious attachment style so i have a ton of inner healing to do before i could ever attempt non-monagomy but all the power to those that make it work!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
Fellow anxious attacher here and I'm with you on that one! I love so many things about poly, but I don't think I could do it in any sort of serious, long-term, sustainable way without a lot of healing and work first!
@christinecamley
@christinecamley 9 месяцев назад
This is such a superb, highly informative, well researched video Meghan. Thanks so much. You make terrific points and I really appreciate you speaking about how people with anxious attachment should approach these relationships with some caution. I work in a psych practice and people can get harmed and/or very triggered, and perhaps retraumatized, if they haven't worked through important psychological issues that exist before trying out different types of intimate relationships. I think your work in videos is always refreshing, thoughtful, thought provoking and they are very enjoyable! Much appreciated! I hope you are doing really well! Cheers! 🙂
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for the kind words! :) Knowing your attachment style is so important, for all kinds of relationships :) Not to say that you can't practice radical relationships if you have attachment issues because you absolutely can, you just have to be aware of them and make sure that you're picking partners who are safe for you!
@christinecamley
@christinecamley 9 месяцев назад
@@meghansandor Yes! Terrific thoughts! I agree Meghan!
@LilMeYT
@LilMeYT 2 месяца назад
Not gonna lie as an Aro-Ace (maybe Demi idk yet) I'm still figuring out my way of viewing relationships but Relationship Anarchy sounds so good and Queerplatonic may be what I was looking for, guess I'll eventually find out. Also the decision of not always prioritazing your partner without feeling guilty because there's more relationships and goals to achieve in life feels like common sense that should be applied more often. And I'm all up for breaking the norm and have a "non-important/serious" relationship if that's what society calls it. One thing I know for sure is that I don't want kids (and heck is that difficult for some people to understand XD seriously I hate bs about "mothers' instinct") I deeply admire the polyamorous relationships and the level of commitment, communication and honesty they require, surely not for everyone but if you can make it work, they must be so awesome. Thank you for such an informative video, there are concepts here that I never heard before and I'll further explore later for sure.
@Antdevamp
@Antdevamp 2 месяца назад
Infodumps=showing love and care. So thank you! I was searching for...ah....yeah I was searching. :)
@messinalyle4030
@messinalyle4030 16 дней назад
Yes, please do talk more at length about the different approaches to child rearing that different cultures have! I'd love to hear more about that.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 6 дней назад
At some point I probably will!
@amandalynjones4892
@amandalynjones4892 4 месяца назад
What a great video! Filled with great perspectives and research! These are things all people should consider about how they interact with the world. A shame it’s considered “radical” to be so conscientious!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
Thank you! And I agree, I think it just makes good sense to consciously consider all types of relationships before deciding which one is right for you :)
@tony_two
@tony_two 5 месяцев назад
I'm new to your channel/videos and I'm so glad that I found them! Very interesting topics!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
Welcome to the channel! Happy that you’re here :)
@jacoblangley9567
@jacoblangley9567 2 месяца назад
That was an extremely good well-informed video highly under the radar Bless Daddy algorithm for bringing it to me. May it spread
@alexanderbassett2901
@alexanderbassett2901 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting stuff to go over from an ace perspective
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! I feel like especially with polyamory, ace perspectives don't get considered very often. Or we're dismissed as being "frigid" or judgy if we don't want multiple sexual/romantic partners. But queerplatonic partnerships are a way for aces to practice polyamory too, and still maintain our boundaries :)
@naomi-art-stuff
@naomi-art-stuff Месяц назад
YURRRRR THESE TOPICS R MY SHITTYT
@violetniemiec1602
@violetniemiec1602 Месяц назад
Im a trans woman whos dating a nonbinary partner weve been together for almost 2 years. I dont want to get into everything about it but i will say that. That this video definitely helped me kinda understand myself a little more as. Polyamorous felt close but not exactly what i wanted. This gave me more useful information. As well as just more words to describe what im feeling. Thank you
@meghansandor
@meghansandor Месяц назад
Thank you for this lovely comment and I'm so happy that it helped you understand yourself a little more!
@georgehoward9306
@georgehoward9306 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the very informative video!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Krista-388
@Krista-388 2 месяца назад
I am so glad I came across your video. appreciate you
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@rosaannarilli4905
@rosaannarilli4905 9 месяцев назад
Hi Meghan, interesting topic! All I will say is thank goodness, I'm not in any relationship by choice!😀
@harjotjassal9180
@harjotjassal9180 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video Meghan
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! :)
@indigosnow_
@indigosnow_ 4 месяца назад
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@mariahterry8812
@mariahterry8812 5 месяцев назад
What is a romantic friendship? Is it the same as a queer platonic relationship?
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
A romantic friendship is a passionate but typically non-sexual friendship that involves a level of closeness and intimacy that wouldn't normally exist in a platonic friendship. It's similar to a queerplatonic relationship, but I guess the main difference is that with QPRs there's an implication of some sort of commitment, like living in the same city (or the same house), sharing finances, living spaces, basically all of the things a couple would do, only it's strictly platonic. With romantic friendships those things may or may not exist, but the friendship involves a degree of passion and romantic feelings that are normally reserved for couples, yet the two never become an actual "couple" in the social sense.
@kebah11
@kebah11 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@meghansandorI’d like to add that queerplatonic doesn’t necessarily have to be committed domestic partnering either. It’s about any queering of the platonic that also sits outside of the traditional romantic/sexual partnership.
@kebah11
@kebah11 5 месяцев назад
@@meghansandorhere’s a good basic definition I’ve found to be less monolithic: It's a relationship, committed or not, that goes beyond the traditional boundaries of friendship, meaning that it often has elements often attributed to romantic relationship, without being considered as such by the people involved in it. For example, a QPR can be best friends who enjoy cuddling, kissing, fondling or sex, or who are deeply emotionally connected beyond the usual best friends feeling, without considering themselves or feeling like they are romantically entangled and don't feel like dating each other or being life partners, even when single. It can also be two or several people who are committed to sharing a domestic life, including sharing expenses and raising children, without feeling romantically attracted to each other or without feeling the need to be romantically or sexually affectionate. Sorry just wanted to get this out there, thanks for listening!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
@@kebah11 absolutely! Thanks for the addition :)
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 5 месяцев назад
@@kebah11 thanks for sharing! This is really great :)
@Daveinbangormaine
@Daveinbangormaine 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this Meghan.
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it!
@0ans4ar-mu
@0ans4ar-mu 3 месяца назад
I'm wondering how close together you and your partner live to make your relationship work?
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
We live about an hour away!
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 3 месяца назад
We live about an hour away by train :)
@potunny
@potunny 2 месяца назад
it sounds strange to me when you say that if you struggle with non-secure attachment styles you're not ready for polyamory, like, it's not everyone who can afford or have access to therapy so they can figure out these kind of things
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 2 месяца назад
Definitely a great point, but also there are lots of really good free/cheap resources to work through attachment stuff, which everyone should be doing anyway, whether poly or not! :)
@micabryant4513
@micabryant4513 9 месяцев назад
This is interesting but your really speaking fast, makes it harder to absorb. 😅
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the feedback! It’s hard to gauge how fast I’m speaking sometimes, so I really appreciate this :) will slow it down in future!
@alexanderbassett2901
@alexanderbassett2901 8 месяцев назад
You can set it 0.75 speed if its that bad
@PersephoneDarling28
@PersephoneDarling28 4 месяца назад
Relationship Anarchy is interesting but damn it is sooooo not for me. Rock on those who do it though
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
It's definitely hard! I don't think I could do polyamory but when I look at RA through the lens of platonic relationships, it makes so much sense because it stops you from putting too much emphasis on your romantic/sexual relationship. I look at RA as more of a different way of doing monogamy, rather than a type of polyamory :)
@PersephoneDarling28
@PersephoneDarling28 4 месяца назад
@@meghansandor I'm definitely Polyamorus and Very Aromantic. I guess where I'm at though I'm totally down to work with whatever systems my partners want as long as it's something I'm comfortable with and if that includes hierarchy that's alright with me. I vibe with fighting Amatonormativity though that gets a big Aspec Thumbs Up
@meghansandor
@meghansandor 4 месяца назад
@@PersephoneDarling28 Absolutely!
@zinaak4194
@zinaak4194 2 дня назад
"Anarchy is founded on Marxist principles" felt like a punch in the gut. Yikes!
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