Atheist Dating Standards versus Christian Dating Standards (Nate and Sutton reaction) 

I’m really sorry this happened to you

Are you doing better now?

@@ellis1469 I am, I'm 28 years old and been in a relationship with a MUCH better person for 10+ years

@@myheartismadeofstars I’m Happy to hear that!

Interesting. The most toxic relationship ships were with the love bombers. In the begining he would be waiting for me to pull up. Later when I asked for help carrying…. I can’t do any weight hating . He told me He is not a donkey. Full on guilt tripping and all

God: You were supposed to be with this Brienne chick I sent you, wtf. Have you seen her? She is YOKED. ...We'll talk about this later.

Same! Talking about his “gym buddy.” Wink wink

This I approve

😂😂😂

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Oh, yeah! That was such a controlling red flag. Even knowing it was a skit, I wanted to holler - “Run! He doesn’t own you!”

Yup!

"That's fine. I know guys who like it when I wear my _other_ shorts that are even smaller. Bu-Bye."

1,000%

Yeah, no kidding. If my wife told me that my shorts were too short... 🩳🤔🤣

Funny. My husband from the NORTH, he always open the dorr for me. By the NORTH, i mean Denmark and it's 50/50 you're going to find people polite as that. That goes for all genders. 😊

@@charisma-hornum-fries😢

I don't think that's necessarily only a southern thing. I grew up in a rural area of the west and that was very normal there and considered basic politeness. People in very blue areas act like I'm a weirdo for it.

Are you a woman or a man? If you are a woman men may find that as a good thing, if you are a man no one has to know, it is not their business and women usually don't know unless you are very autistic and obviously virgin, which is unlikely.

Sorry but it's hot to be a virgin.

Same here lol. Haven’t found a person I would feel safe doing it with though. Also just not very interested in things I find scary…. But that’s a whole other issue. Currently working on it through therapy.😅

Honestly, don't worry about it. 28 is old for being a virigin but it's not that old. And you don't have to disclose your sexual experience, especially if it's a lack of it (cuz you don't have to worry as much about spreading an STD or STI) to anyone. Even your potential partner doesn't need to know. They aren't entitled to that info. It's not immoral to keep that to yourself, imo at least. And virginity is kind of a myth. Lots of cultures had no word for virginity historically and it wasn't anything that mattered. Our society puts such a big deal on it for stupid reasons and it's just a made up concept. Your first time is your first time but it won't change who you are or a status in any meaningful way.

I’ve never asked a person I was interested in if they were a virgin. Does it matter?

Has nothing to do with Christianity. Im atheist and the same way. Don’t want a hoe

@@Kova-ow2en Sounds like a subjective personal hangup. What inherently about not being a virgin makes you a hoe>

@@Kova-ow2en So having sex in a committed relationship makes you a hoe? Got it. I'm guessing that b/c of your judgmental & sanctimonious attitude, that you are very single.

​@@Kova-ow2enthis belief is only a thing though bc of Christian purity culture though. You can be an atheist and still be affected by Christian views.... Most of today's cultures (particularly western ones) have been influenced by Christianity. That's how culture works

@@cloudyyybear if the west has been influenced by “Christianity” despite it worshipping hedonism and debautchery then colour me surprised. I wouldn’t consider “purity culture” to be of christ Cuck origin though. Its been around way longer then even Zoroastrianism most likely

Extremely!

Only God forgives those sins. I'm a Christian and would not date a man who felt he had to forgive me for having sex in my past. I have kids n everything lol

Where I live it doesn't matter what someone's religion is no one cares about virginity, it's not even a factor culturally. They'd be considered extra creeps 😬

@@micheller3251 yeah, it is a cultural thing fs. N I'm not saying America has it right, spiritually speaking we are lulled to sleep by our music n media and sin is very normalized. These ppl are trying to live by standards not held here and cherry picking which ones to go by. It's very creepy..again I know this country is pretty depraved n am not saying I think it's right the way culture shapers have led ppl this way. But these ppl don't uphold the whole of the law I'm sure

​@@Jlove85 I doubt they abstain from wearing mixed cloths

That is lovely. Glad to hear that some people can have opposing beliefs and be in relationships

I hear you. While I don’t think it’s imperative for every relationship to have the same religious beliefs, it’s important that both people either have the same beliefs or have the same ability to be present in a relationship with differing beliefs. My Christianity is a huge part of my life. I don’t feel comfortable being with someone who doesn’t identify with any of this belief system. I’ve tried dating people outside of this and I was always trying to change them. I don’t want to be that kind of person. However, plenty of people don’t need to be with someone of their same belief system to feel close in the relationship and that’s ok.

@@hannahberlinpetry450I’m an antitheist who wouldn’t know how to date or marry a theist. I’ve been best friends, writing partners, and bandmates with theists, but it bugs me so much to imagine romantic relationships with them. If kids ever enter the picture, I just can’t let my partner tell them that gods are real. A lot of atheists would tell me I should just let my hypothetical kids think for themselves, but the obvious problem with that is when you just let people of any age think for themselves they’ll often get it wrong and cause harm.

My parents are both Christians, but they have (and always had) very very different world views (and ideas about God). One is quite evangelical-charismatic and the other one quite liberal/progressive. I don't think the difference between a Christian and an atheist (for example) is much bigger. It has worked for them because they share a lot of values and are able to keep finding decisions with which they are both happy. It's challenging, though, but they also keep learning from each other. They've been married for more than 35 years now...

Young, dumb and full of the Holy Spirit 😂 that made me laugh because of how accurate that is. I feel the same way about my younger self and can totally relate to the shame you feel about your actions in the past as a Christian… thank god (😂) we’ve grown and now know better than that

Any Christian knows that revelation always need some independent confirmation. The idea of relationships is to meet each other and in most cases it is a loss of time anyway among teens, so don't worry. I don't get why you think not dating outside religion is a bad thing? I mean, less arguments, less differences, etc. Many atheists would date believers but not racists, conservatives, etc. so they also have standards on other aspects.

Hey man, don't feel bad, you were an immature teenager who was only going off what he was told was important by people he trusted. It's not like you were a 30-something year old man who said that to his wife when she told him she no longer believed in god. :) PS, my now ex husband said that we were unequally yoked and god didn't want that for his marriage when I told him I was atheist. It destroyed my foundation and that was the beginning of the end of our marriage. After the divorce he said he regretted saying it, but I'm actually happy he did. Snapped me to the reality that he only cared about me as far as my faith.

I totally relate to this. When I was a Christian child, I was absolutely horrible to people. When I was 9 or 10, I told my friend she needed to throw away her barbie dolls because they're sinful and she cried.

😂...🤦‍♂️...🤣

Wait … I haven’t seen this video about him abusing their children. Can you reply with a link?

They are absolutely disgusting people. I hope CPS gets those kids out! Dirty animals.

@@theantibot Sure, I'm working at the moment but I'll go hunt it down later this evening.

​@The Antibot I don't think this is what they're referencing, but a clip from around 7:25 in this video gives me big concern around how Nate might treat their kids. It's about what they would do if a child of theirs came out as LGBT+. Basically, he would, "be in a fight," with them, including holding up a fist. Their kids are like toddlers, right? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2EJ-g2PIoq4.html

@@theantibot ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nE3AAGQ0gVY.html Not their video, can't find that, but this one is Mickey Atkins reacting to the video. Not sure if they deleted it, but in summary Nate describes how he "disciplines" their kids by "whooping" them and then afterwards he locks them in the car alone, and now the kids are so afraid of this punishment that all he has to say is "do you want to go to the car?" and they comply.

That does sound nice. If people have similar values and ethics to start with, then the existence of gods is purely an academic issue. I’m sure it’s a much easier conversation to have when no one’s perceived goodness or salvation is on the line.

I love that point of view “sharing the same moral compass but not religion” I feel like I’ve met so many people, have great friends that are all over the board with religious views but all wonderful people.

As a single Christian myself, I find your story really interesting. When I was a teen, the idea of dating a non Christian never occurred to me. But as the years passed, I began to realise just how constrained Christian women's choices are when it comes to dating. In churches, single men of marriageable age are simply not there. Many women are ending up alone. I can't help but feel extremely exasperated, sad, and depressed because I sometimes feel like women are paying a price for being Christian. And I wonder if they would actually have more success in dating and marriage if they cast their net beyond the confines of their church or dating apps. I had given up and had resigned myself to staying single when I met a guy a short distance from my house, who turned out to be Muslim. He's not particularly devout about his faith (he began to rebel after his father died). I care about him a lot, I truly do, but sadly I don't really see any hope of a future with him due to issues that aren't related to his faith.

@@Damsel_in_This_Dress I totally agree with you that options are limited in Christian circles. would it be a possibility to respect your differences with this guy and focus on your similarities? I have Muslim friends, and we've had some really interesting conversations about our respective faiths

@@sherrijennings9309 He's not particularly devout about his faith, so our religious differences haven't played a big part. It's other things separate from our faiths that are causing issues 😕

@@Damsel_in_This_Dress Yes! More women attend church than men.

I can't stand it. It is so boring and lacks individuality. What is with the grey bed sheets and couches? They throw out their old furniture and buy ugly grey couches instead and then get rid of them when they are bored with them. I am aiming to have as many things to be purple as possible.

I think a lot of it comes from growing up in houses with just too much stuff. Everyone's house when I was growing up was a mix of dark brown and orange with acid green and just a tonne of junk. So when I first moved out I just wanted a home with as little clutter and colour (maybe like splashes of harmonious soft colours). That's changed as I've gotten a bit older though. Our boring grey couch now has a fluffy blanket and crochet pillows and a colourful floral foot rest 😅😅

People are more worried about the resale value of their houses rather than genuinely enjoying them.

When everything’s white, everything matches. (There’s a metaphor in there somewhere.)

i dont mind walls/big furniture being neturals (makes decorating easier), but i also love jewel tones, florals, and vintage decor (just dont like gold decor, it looks like you are trying to hard to look wealthy to me.) id love a nice dark grey couch, and colorful accent chair with co-ordinating pillows on the couch, plants, paintings, pictures, and a basket of blankets. also, plenty of skulls in the living room.

Homeboy needs to take a hint lol.

That one was a little weird for me lol.

Its so funny that they recorded that. Re-watched it during culling. Watching it AGAIN during editing. Then decided to leave it in the final cut

I'll look at _your_ messages whenever I want, to make sure you're not doing something behind my back. Why would you be hiding something from me? But _you_ wanting to read the messages on _my_ cell phone, that's a boundary issue that YOU have.

@@christasimon9716 for a second i thought you were literally saying that to Batya and it seemed so ominous lol XD

@@MantasticHams Now if there was even the slightest chance that I actually had access to Batya's cell phone, yeah that would be creepy.

Or even worse, not just someone that respects his boundaries but essentially has the same EXACT boundaries. I thought I was crazy thinking he was confused on how boundaries work. You may not have the same boundaries but you respect the others boundaries as best you can…that being said boundaries are for YOU to determine what you will and won’t accept and how you’ll respond, not weaponizing them to change other people’s behavior. That would just be a rule, not a boundary?!

He didn't just talk about his boundaries from what I saw. It was pretty equal. Not saying he isn't selfish about it though

You should probably look up why the term "Aspergers" was removed from the DSM, not a good look to continue using it considering the history, which I say as an Autistic person myself who was once under that diagnostic criteria. I do agree with what you mean by not being able to lie. If I accidentally lie I have to correct my inaccuracies immediately or I start to get physical symptoms and mental symptoms. The thing I have to remember is that most other people I talk to can lie without feeling symptomatic.

@@nightshade7240 people should use whatever terminology outdated or not they are comfortable with. I have Aspergers or ASD too and to help people understand me better I use Asperger's, because most people don't know everything about the latest version of DSM and monitoring and policing for "not a good look" is not practical or effective. This person describing themselves as a person with Asperger's doesn't absolutely nothing on the broader picture nor does it contribute to any harm still prevelent from the past by institutions and people who are not a part of the autism spectrum. It's the same exact thing as people who have ASPD describing themselves as sociopaths or psychopaths, even tho those terms had a pad past, it helps people with ASPD to communicate with neurotypical majority and push for their interests and communication. I would argue this nonsensical policing of each other leads us to nowhere and distracts from reality of our socioeconomic position

@@nightshade7240 I'm not from the USA, and I was diagnosed as an adult, long after the DSM has removed this term, and shortly after ICD followed, but still this was my diagnosis. It's a normal term used in my country, used as one of the subtypes of autism spectrum. This spectrum is so wide, that it makes the term "autism spectrum" useless in a conversation, it brings almost no information to your listener. On the other hand, the term "asperger" points to a very narrow, in comparison, part of a spectrum and convey much more information.

I don't have asbergers but I'm the same way. Lying is so unnecessary and disrespectful.

@@mojigreen6461 I mean if you want to label yourself with the name of the literal Nazi eugenicist who experimented on Autistic children to determine if they could have value to the Reich and were called Asperger's children and if they were deemed not of value or too autistic, were put to death then go ahead (also where elements of ABA derive from.) I'm not nonsensically policing anything. The name of the dx is literally the name of the Nazi who masterminded Aktion T4 and many of the techniques used by the Nazis in the Holocaust, but go off. The name of the dx was removed because it comes from literal Nazism and that's why I mentioned it because most people, even other Autistic people are unaware. Mostly, as an Autistic person, I don't want anything to do with literal fucking Nazi experimentation attached to our community.

That is what I thought he was saying/implied. I hope I am wrong about that :(

He wants to set boundaries that the other person will be responsible for upholding

I understood the exact same thing. English is not my first language so I could be wrong

​@@annakevlin8634 I don't think you're wrong. Apparently, men have no impulse control in his mind.

I think that you may well be right. I went for a much more charitable interpretation, probably projecting my own ideas, of "I want somebody who will not let me roll them over, who will stand up to me, who will say no instead of going along when they do not want to".

I am here for the “shades of beige” video 😂

Ok w a little beige,..but the pristine part I can't do😂

@@susanatkinson3978 as an empty nester, I can't keep my house pristine without it consuming every moment of my time. How on earth are people with young children supposed to keep a house this white?

@@meghanworkman6449 I know!!!! Good question🤣🤣🤣

Probably a lot of rules

Why don’t you believe in Jesus anymore?

@@ellis1469 oh so many issues I wouldn't know where to begin

@@teh.manosman please start with the biggest flaw in your eyes

@@ellis1469 I would start with the inability for the bible to be verifiable outside of itself, as well as the division amongst sects

@@teh.manosman Evolution has its own problems and questions that can never be answered with 100 percent certainty and Yes the division in the Church is very concerning.

Exactly

What a cynic. I can't imagine thinking good manners is condescending.

Maybe it's because you have no moral framework anymore..you're flying solo "Coffee"..suck it up.

Dating and relationships are much more complicated than we are aware of. It might help for you to approach it from a friendship first perspective. That way there is no pressure to become intimate immediately. Also, couples who start as friends (rather than potential mates) tend to outlast those that start from seeking a mate. (Mating is easy. Relationships are hard.) So don't try date. Instead, make friends by joining groups that include both genders that are involved with activities that you are interested in. That way there is no pressure and no one cares about your "purity"(especially if they are not Christians). Also, search for lists of dating ideas and take yourself on a date. Knowledge will help to reduce anxiety. You might want to read a book or two about dating (like Dating for Dummies, which is not overly serious). It can provide things to think about like how to identify your personal standards (and how they differ from expectations), values, and boundaries. How to agree about how to disagree, and have constructive disagreements. What is a healthy relationship? How to identify "red flags" in a person. Also, read books by Dr. John Gottman (Jewish), Dr. Gary Chapman (Christian), Brené Brown (vulnerability). Google "best relationship books". Some excellent web sites for articles about relationships are marriage.com, liveboldandbloom.com, bonobology.com, and many others. Google "questions to get to know someone", "questions to ask on a date", "important questions in a relationship", etc. Leaving Christianity is like leaving a cult. It takes time to discard and recover from the psychological conditioning and trauma you have experienced. Identifying it and replacing it with positive thoughts and experiences is the way to heal, but avoid toxic positivity. Explore who you are and discover who you want to become. Think. Explore. Learn. Grow.

​@@grepora I agree with most of what you said, except that I don't think it's wrong to date first, so long as you're keenly aware of your boundaries and approach it like a friendship but with the potential for romantic feelings. I would also argue that friendships can often be shallow and break off very easily, much like other relationships. It can be more complicated in some cases, too, as you might have a friend group, and a new relationship could ruin the dynamic, or sour it if things go wrong. Really it's about one's attitude, not how you meet. Trying not to take rejection to heart, not obsessing over anything, making sure you are similar but also different in ways you can support one another. Not being insecure- at least not for the most part- when you do hope to get together.

Exactly

ig the point is figure out why are you naive or vulnerable and try to fix it. We have to give some agency to the victims right? I know many people who would NEVER fall for some abusive shit because they are extremely aware and think deeply about their choices... then i know people who have... multiple times.. and they just can't read other people as well. Before you call me a victim blamer, i'm saying this for the sake of people who get trapped in these situations. Figure out why you're a good target and try to fix it.

Just like those Muslim ingrates

And those are some of the same men who claim that "these snowflakes dont know how to control their emotions"

I can't imagine the hurt. I would feel so distressed and lied to....

To be fair, a rape victim might consider themselves a virgin because it wasn‘t their choice. It wasn‘t their first time having sex, it was someone forcing themselves on them. But I see your point, it‘s certainly possible that someone might feel like they lost their virginity to an assaulter. And even to someone who feels like they still are a virgin, this culture must be incredibly toxic as you never know if other people will be supportive or judgemental.

the assumption there is that rape is the victim's fault.

Truly couple goals 🙌

I agree. A lot of my Christian friends don’t understand the concept of sexual compatibility, and it makes me sad that a person who is ace (which isn’t talked about at all in Christian circles) might get together with someone with a high sex drive, and they have an unsatisfactory sexual relationship because neither of them had the vocabulary or experience to talk about that before marriage. And too, they don’t believe in divorce or polyamory, so there’s no way to get that need taken care of.

I don‘t know if being a virgin is the problem here. I think the bigger problem is not talking about sex, not openly admitting to (if at all) masturbating, and waiting to have sex with your partner till marriage.

​@@jaycee3177As a christian, for me personally, I can't imagine me in a relationship wanting to have more or less sex than my partner would be such a huge dealbreaker?? maybe i am leaning towards ace as i never got what the huge deal is with sex but it's crazy to me people talk as if if the frequencies don't match exactly it's fucked. Like it has to be so rare you find someone who wants everything exactly as you want it, including sex. My guess is most christians think other things are more important to fine tune than how often you want to fuck lol. Different set of priorities i asssume.

Same!

Well if you're a Christian just know your husband is going to hell according to your bible. The father of your children will burn in your mythical hell and deep down you know it.

​@Abby Carlson your husband is going to hell! Lol

Definitely where I and my husband are at.

​@@leonardopatrizioYour christian love really look like hate

It's because he absolutely WAS dating another woman when they started dating and didn't tell her. She asked him about it and was very hurt when he said he was because she thought they were exclusive. They've talked about it before. I've watched too many fundie reaction videos 😅

​@@christinafedderke3751Thanks for spilling the tea. I was searching the comments to find out what that was all about.

It depends what she finds funny as well. Maybe she wouldn’t like someone with a dry or sarcastic sense of humour but would like someone who says or does things many people would consider corny. I doubt she would like someone with a fairly childish or physical sense of humour either. I don’t think anything related to bodily functions would go down well.

as someone else who thinks deeply about why people do what they do, others often find me exhausting lol. So i'd def need someone who appreciates it.

Don't give on love I beg you

​@@biodiversityfanatic2454 They might be aroace and not be able to love, you shouldn't assume.

Omg a ace man! Nice to see other aces! 🖤🤍💜

Toxic is subjective

Yup date to marry only, remove anyone who wantef sex not even kissing allowed

I think you mean “can’t be fun without” lol. But yeah that whole idea is conservative christianity in nature

Do you find something wrong with dating to marry?

I don’t really understand dating for fun tbh. I’ve done it once, and it was eh, but it’s only because I treated it more like an intense friendship then a relationship. I don’t see what’s so fun about looking into the eyes of someone you find special and thinking “ah this is just a temporary toy I’m renting out for a little while and then I’ll send em back out into the world to date” it’s very… depressing. I think that when you date, you should be dating with the intention of aiming towards marriage and if they prove not to be a marriageable person, then that sucks. It’s kinda why I’d say dating is a bad move as a general rule of thumb.

​ @douglaswilliams3388 It's not really like that. It's moreso like how people date as children with no real understanding of what a relationship is or should be like, and inevitably separate when they move house, or school, or grow as different people. You know that you'll probably change while dating them, and that most relationships end, but you don't necessarily want that, at least not in that current moment while you're still similar and in love, or what you think is love. Edit because I don't think people understand my word salad, lol. What I mean is, it's enjoying the moment. You don't have to think about the future when you're dating, especially not when you're young. If you wanna have kids or get married, that's something to think about when you've been together a while, not in the 'just dating' stage.

Cute!

I agree with everything you said, especially the last part! As I’m single it applies to anyone close to me at all

The Christians do seem oddly fond of b0ndage metaphors, even if their actual lives are as sanitized and vanilla as the influencer couple in question

As a Christian (culturally) With a non believing husband I saw how people who saw that in Christian circles as a detriment. At the same time I saw Christian family groups who had to practice what I call "split forces." It's when half the kids are at one place while the other are in a different spot (usually because the sanctuary setting wasn't the best for their children's behavior). It was essential for our family to do that from time to time. We were better able to do it than others as a result. That "image" of unequal yoking is what ultimately turned me off of where I went to church. It was my marriage or my church and I chose my marriage. I saw it as a positive. I also always had a problem with the idea of redemption of my husband. That's not what marriage is for!!! I did want to have kids and that one stayed the same regardless of who I was dating. If they didn't want kids (post commitment) I was like, "nope!" I definitely was certain that I didn't want a virgin... Or at least stay away from sex pre-marriage. I had certain urges and expectations regarding sex that I knew wasn't vanilla and this wouldn't work if we didn't test that compatibility first.

@@christinacody8653 My partner once said he was looking for a woman who was young, attractive, virginal and Catholic. I replied what if the woman you love with all your heart is older, definitely not a virgin- has two kids and is pagan to her core? We've been together for 15 years now....

@@christinacody8653 there's certainly alot of truth behind the reasoning of seeking out a partner who is equally yoked.

Thank you!

I had the same feeling. His non negotiable is that the other person has boundaries as if we did not all have them. We have them, what is difficult is to know them and respect them. I think he meant that he wants the other person to know their boundaries and respect them because he knows his. But it really sounded like he needs that because he pushed against the other

@@anainesgonzalez8868 It really does seem like he means that he wants her to enforce his boundaries for him. He says he needs someone who "will be there to stop you," and yeah we all have our weaknesses and its good if you and your partner and help each other out with those. But it still does come off as him saying that he can't control himself so she has to do it for him. And given her expressions throughout that point it does come off as she had to do a lot of managing of his behaviors.

Agree! It’s a little bland for my personal taste.

Haha it gives me family vlog vibes

They are stupid

It's a shame that people take frivolities so far. My first thought was that this style is adjacent to a minimalist, clean aesthetics. I wonder if the proponents tend to be in the same age range.

@@Otherwise88 Hi. To look on the funny side of this I guess we could say as Christians their heads seem to be stuck in the clouds............ Y'know, all that white paint🖌️......... Anyhew,......... Ok, I will 🛑 now. 😬

​@@Otherwise88 it looks extremely superficial. It could be designed for an interior design magazine or even ikea. There's zero personality or feelings of a home.

@@charisma-hornum-fries I can see your point there. And I'll admit that its very strange to see a house look like that when they have several young children. It does give it an unnatural feeling.

From what I have sern from him, it was completely intentional...

Yeah it's pretty gross and fakey. They are hard to watch. I hate to fwd through their parts a lot.

@@tylerlee27 maybe so!

@@tylerlee27 oh my gosh Tyler.. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how you knew that I’m engaged. I didn’t post anything on social media about my engagement and I was thinking you stalked me somehow 🤣🤣 I just realized that I mentioned my fiancé in the original post hahaha I am dumb But things are great! Thank you for asking 😊 we just got engaged, we started dating 12 years ago when we were like 13 lol

That’s the same situation as mine, absolutely fine.

Sooo agree!!!😂😂😂 However, in this guy's case, I bet the reason he does it will include a double life related to repressed homosexuality. (Dude has really strong gay vibes.)

Thiiiiiis. Especially after learning how horribly abusive Nate is to their kids.

Find him and see where your lives are now, if he’s still that good person you knew. I was in a similar situation 30 years ago. I’m Baha’i and he was Christian. He was an amazing man, and we loved each other. He had an issue with me not being Christian. He ended up in a bad marriage for 18 years with a “Christian” woman. I couldn’t find anyone who was as special as him. We’re reconnected now after 30 years, both very happy together, and regretting not working it all out back then.

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Omg, that might also be why I deconstructed at some point after leaving teaching and starting (then leaving) a masters in counseling program... Though the seeds of doubt for me were sown all throughout my college days, as I started seeing a lot more cracks in the foundation of religion (especially when it came to beliefs and practices about LGBTQ and women's roles in the church - I was not about to let some conservative Christian men tell me what I could/couldn't do or whose love is/isn't valid).

Not like they’d want your loose 304 ass

As a former Christian, I never had issues with dating atheists. Now that I am an atheist, I still would not mind dating anyone with any religion. I really do not see why Christians are so picky about that?

​@jnb4729 It's the idea that dating a non-Christian will potentially lead to them leaving the faith. It makes sense, someone open to dating someone outside the religion probably isn't as attached to it anyways. Also, Christians usually believe everyone else is going to be tortured forever, so that can't be good forba relationship.

@@joshuaa7266 Why not? Can't you have your faith and love someone who might not. Just be respectful of them and have a loving relationship. If they want to go to church on Sundays, so be it, the other does not have to. The world is so complicated that it really is not that unnormal.

​@@JNB0723 respectfully, I think that only works if the man wants to go to church and the woman doesn't. When I joined a congregation without my husband I was labeled a homewrecker and pushed out. The pastor continued to call me a single mother, even though he had met my husband a number of times. The men were told not to talk to me. They stopped asking me to play in the worship band. Maybe it was just that I happened to join a very misogynistic church. I hope that doesn't happen everywhere

It won't. Not every church is like that. Some don't care if your spouse doesn't attend.

So if someone had abusive toxic parents that they got away from they're automatically not an option for you? I'd request reconsidering that.

Also she had to wear the shorts to film the video.

Yeah, I don't need another half, I am a complete person. 😂

West virgins? Lol

I left the Catholic Church at age 17 when I became Baha’i, but my parents and sister have all left the Catholic Church in the last several years due to the scandals. They are still Christian though.