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Autism in Adults - 55 Hidden Signs 

Orion Kelly - That Autistic Guy
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@towzone
@towzone 6 дней назад
Rudeness is subjective. Expecting me to lie is rude. Neurotypicals commonly lack the ability to handle any conversation that doesn’t also stroke their ego.
@ChrisstineLynnn
@ChrisstineLynnn 6 дней назад
AMEN! NTs need you to do that stroking because they can't handle straight-up direct talk.
@annerigby4400
@annerigby4400 6 дней назад
Actually, rudeness is based on a set of unspoken (I think) social rules. I have one child who was born knowing these rules, one child learned most of them (a very observant person). They can choose to follow those rules or not, choose when and if to be rude. I know a few of the obvious ones that I was taught as a child by my shocked mother (she never understood how I could be so socially clueless). The problem is that some neurotypicals are deliberately rude and enjoy being rude to shock people or to get attention or to be mean. Then along comes an autistic person who behaves in a way the unspoken rules have named rude and the neurotypicals jump to the conclusion that the autistic person is being deliberately rude. I have found humour and goofing off is the best camouflage for me. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm completely loopy, but at least I'm not rude, hahahahahaah! An autistic person once told me that all neurotypicals are just boring.
@chickenmuffin
@chickenmuffin 2 дня назад
Its true I learned with some people to only tell them what they want to hear.
@PhyllisMasters
@PhyllisMasters День назад
this.
@voltronsbluelion
@voltronsbluelion День назад
Isn't THAT the truth. I can still recall how awesome it felt to have a good real conversation with someone that fully disagreed with me, but was intelligent. Gawd nothin like it.
@mclovin6829
@mclovin6829 6 дней назад
Only 51 out of 55. I was pretty close to being autistic, there for a minute.
@thatjpwing
@thatjpwing 6 дней назад
“Just like you can’t ask a Mac to be a PC”. What a wonderful analogy! We just do things differently!
@Doperooni
@Doperooni 5 дней назад
Don't challenge me to a good time. I'll make it happen lol MAC running DOS XD
@VintageCR
@VintageCR 2 дня назад
@@Doperooni true but for how long or how well wil it run DOS... not only that, DOS... really? that's the lowest grade or bare minimum of calling something a pc. it will always be less is what im saying.
@Doperooni
@Doperooni День назад
@@VintageCR OS/2? BeOS? It was a joke anyway lol
@Mamarita3333
@Mamarita3333 6 дней назад
You described me to perfection! I get lots of anxiety with speaking on the phone. I just can’t do it….. But I can text forever and be very elaborate when texting. I am also a loner!
@carpdog42
@carpdog42 6 дней назад
I actually don't get much anxiety being on the phone; but I often find it hard to escape from and kind of annoying. Actually initiating a phone call however, that is an extremely difficult barrier to cross.
@lindaversil1121
@lindaversil1121 6 дней назад
Me too
@joyful_tanya
@joyful_tanya 6 дней назад
Same.
@hockeyhacker97
@hockeyhacker97 6 дней назад
It is a double edge sword for me because when I am wanting to talk it ends up being unreadable walls of text because I have to write every last detail to ensure the right context is used since text lacks body language and tone of voice and well let's just use the example of "F you, what the F are you doing around here, lets get out of here" can translate to a hostile version of what it literally says, like stay the F away, but it can also translate to a much much more friendly "What? What are you doing here, long time no see, let's go grab lunch and a brewski" all dependent on tone of voice and body language. As a result Most my writing ends up being way longer to the point of aggravation because typing on a phone screen sucks and so ends up being easier just calling even though calling has it's own flaws at least I am not writing a 10 page report in order to convey 3 sentences. As a result depending on what I am talking about I may prefer text because it gives me time to reply, but I may prefer just calling because it would take me 40 minutes to write what would take 30 seconds to say.
@Cnsalmoni
@Cnsalmoni 6 дней назад
But you are not alone!❤
@kensears5099
@kensears5099 6 дней назад
My autism discovery was in May '23, at 65 years of age. After a year-plus of reading, watching, thinking and, most of all, revisiting a lifetime's worth of experience, I'm reaching, irresistibly, the conclusion that at the core of autism is the absence of a "matrix." The absence is relative, sometimes more, sometimes less (corresponding, I would bet, to the degree one is "high-functioning"), but in all cases the essential quality is matrixlessness. The absence of a core schematic. Again, more or less, but some degree of absence. You might call it "matrix amnesia." The absence of an enduring perceptive-cognitive blueprint, so that, in a way, every socio-psychological-sensory outing is uncharted territory all over again. Think, for instance, of hyper-reaction to sensory input, also hyper-vigilance. Every time a sudden, sharp noise (like a child's screech) happens in a large group setting, you practically leap out of your skin in "What's THAT?!" alarm...even though this has happened a million times before and everybody knows perfectly well what it is. And every visit to the supermarket is kind of the first time you've ever been in a supermarket. No, not because it's real amnesia, not because you don't know where you are or that you're supposed to pay for your purchases, but because there's this pervasive sense of foreignness to it all and unpredictability. The surface appearances are familiar, yes, but you don't really believe them. Because to you they are not a "matrix," they're just what things look like today and you're not really sure what the rules are. It reminds me of my titanic struggles with arithmetic in school. And when the frustrated teacher would tell me the answer, "8x7 is 56! FIFTY-SIX!", I vividly recall, as if from inside my brain at that moment, staring at her, and her frustration, uncomprehending two things: 1) why she was so exercized about this number, and, 2) why "56," even if it was the answer today, would still be the answer tomorrow.... This is where masking comes from, of course: performing, externally, the dance you see everybody around you doing, even if you can't penetrate the "Why?", because, well, how else can you survive among people you simply HAVE to survive among? This matrixlessness relates, I dare say, to every single one of the traits you bring up here. I will resist the temptation to discuss each one, and it's a big temptation! 🙂 I am in my own humble way, and with no particular schedule (though "by next year" would be nice) trying to write a book about this, my own personal chronicle that, I'd like to think, might help others. Maybe it will never be a book, maybe just a long blog. We'll see. In any case it's really helping ME, for now, thinking through all this. It's a fascinating journey of both discovery and healing. If I do finally write and publish it, its title will be "Visceral; My Discovery and Reminiscences of Autism."
@katharinegates2917
@katharinegates2917 6 дней назад
Matrix amnesia, love it! This resonates with me for sure. Another way of describing bottom up thinking, where we need to gather the details and specifics before we can develop a hypothesis about what’s going on. Whereas neurotypicals seem to jump right to the big picture.
@kensears5099
@kensears5099 6 дней назад
@@katharinegates2917 Yes!
@shuswapbcoutdoors8652
@shuswapbcoutdoors8652 6 дней назад
About writing your book . . . I started my book in 2001 and I am in the same age-bracket as you. I initially started writing my story as an autobiography but could never figure out how to make it interesting enough. A few years ago, I had an epiphany; I changed the story to a Novel, which allowed additional creative freedom and allowed for greater character anonymity. I then wrote for 3 days straight with minimal sleep. But, it is still a work in progress until the creative urge grabs me again.
@kensears5099
@kensears5099 6 дней назад
@@shuswapbcoutdoors8652 🙂
@felixgarciaflores
@felixgarciaflores 6 дней назад
​@@katharinegates2917 i agree, except instead of the 'big picture' i'd say they _arbitrarily_ choose a kind of 'middle picture' because not only they refuse to examine how certain details contribute to something, they can at the same time refuse to consider what role the object of their focus might play on a greater scale i say arbitrarily because to me it often feels like it, but it more often than not has to do with immediate practicalities concerning survival of some chosen circle either on short or long term, depending on the mysterious variations of temperament, personality and prevalent customs. meanwhile, i have my own individually biased levels of analysis that I'd hope others would adopt, but the real thing is, ( i'm falling asleep rn if i don't go do I'll just leave it like this! )
@Grace.allovertheplace
@Grace.allovertheplace 4 дня назад
27:17 yesterday I sat outside when a couple of people I barely know asked me if they could sit with me and I said: *”of course! but please don’t include me in any conversation!”* 😇
@towzone
@towzone 6 дней назад
Monologuing: I’m an expert, you asked me a question. The answer takes more than one sentence, but I get interrupted giving context to the answer I’m about to give and never get to answer the question. EVERYTHING is more complicated than it appears on the surface, but that’s the maximum depth for most people.
@cellardoor4182
@cellardoor4182 6 дней назад
This response is perfection.
@NitFlickwick
@NitFlickwick 6 дней назад
Story of my life. Some days, I feel really bad for the engineers that report to me. They get all the content! I still have one engineer that reports to me (who I am fairly confident is ND) who does not get enough context and asks “why”. 😂
@tamaraholloway9634
@tamaraholloway9634 6 дней назад
Exactly!
4 дня назад
Totally. Re: no context - The health profession is rife with this for me. I find it a depressing, dehumanising, draining crapshoot. Refusing to ask follow up questions and ask or listen to contexts. Refusing to explore options. I saw a comment on reddit that soo describes this attitude - in a different context - Be curt, unhelpful and smile sweetly while declining to... (do tasks in that context). Great comments and theories here. Thanks all. Sending hugs.
@ars6187
@ars6187 10 часов назад
THIS!!! YES!!! It’s exhausting.
@grooviechickie
@grooviechickie 6 дней назад
I am 52 and am so good at camouflaging that when I finally (finally!) got the courage to mention my personal austism suspicions to my doctor, he told me that there was no way I could possibly be autistic because I am too sociable. He then proceeded to accuse me of wanting a diagnosis so thaf I could go on a disability pension and get NDIS. I have not mentioned it again. I cried when I got home. I was so shocked that he could possibly think that. I'm sticking with self-diagnosis, and being out-and-proud ND with my friend (autistic too). They get me.
@rongravelle603
@rongravelle603 6 дней назад
Your doctor is not a nice person. I’d find a new one. But that’s me
@grooviechickie
@grooviechickie 6 дней назад
​@@rongravelle603 yes I know. I am looking for a new one, but it's hard. Can I trust someone with that again?
@inikainika1523
@inikainika1523 6 дней назад
​@@grooviechickieyes you can. And so what if you want the DSP? Getting it has changed my life. It's like having a Universal Basic Income.
@grooviechickie
@grooviechickie 5 дней назад
​@@inikainika1523 true! I'm so glad it helped you. Well I was shocked because it was not on my mind at all. I was genuinely telling him my suspicions and asking if I should do something about it regarding assessment to confirm or deny. It REALLY hurt.
@kensears5099
@kensears5099 6 дней назад
Yes, when something has deprived me of my daily activity, it feels like grief, like someone intentionally was out to hurt me. It's irrational and I know it, and I manage the feeling as an adult. But the feeling is still there.
@MathStatsMe
@MathStatsMe 6 дней назад
"We lack tact." "Lactate?" "No, lack tact."
@MandaPanda254
@MandaPanda254 5 дней назад
I hit the jackpot yesterday. I despise small talk, so i have avoided hair dressers for years cos they are professionals of small talk. I pushed myself and went to a hair dresser yesterday, and she didnt do any small talk. Just cut my hair in silence. It was so good.
@grenade8572
@grenade8572 4 дня назад
Ahah, I'm so bad in social interactions, EVEN the hairdressers don't know how to talk to me, so they stay silent. 😁
@chrismaxwell1624
@chrismaxwell1624 6 дней назад
Small talk has a purpose. It's a verbal surface level conversation where 90% of the communication in non verbal body language where two people are evaluating each other to see if they conversation should end or go deeper. Psychologist online explained this. That explains why I never understood small talk and even understanding it dose mean I can do it
@michaelmacpherson-wm6mh
@michaelmacpherson-wm6mh 6 дней назад
small talk is the human form of sniffing butts.
@lilynorthover8378
@lilynorthover8378 5 дней назад
That is exactly it @chrismaxwell1624 but you don't have to do it. Just know a few key starter subjects. I have learnt that they will do the rest. You don't have to be interested but it makes them more comfortable and the next thing you know they are telling you the stories of their lives which I do find interesting. Seriously, if you ever feel lonely or bored, sit at a bus stop with old people waiting and ask " has the bus been yet? It seems a bit late, doesn't it?" You'll be amazed what you will find out 😁 Or sit midway on a country bus. You don't have to join in, just smile when someone gets on. They will all know each other and so will you by the time you get to the destination. 😄 I love studying people.
@robynfromcanada
@robynfromcanada 5 дней назад
Makes me wonder why my colleagues insist on small talk in online chat form since we cannot even see each other! It's rude. 😅
@grenade8572
@grenade8572 4 дня назад
The only thing I understand avout small talk; talking about the weather is socially acceptable, but I definitelt can't use that trick to iniate conversation, because it's soooo weird! And it's soooo difficult to fake being interested with that object. I'm 33yo, and still didn't manage to spot what the other subjects for small talk are. Maybe talking about the holidays? Would explain why my coworkers tell they went travelled on holidays, but don't want to answer my questions about their travel - they want to keep the thing superficial, meanwhile I'm really to connect by digging into something I though they wanted to talk about?
@jennifermarches3459
@jennifermarches3459 3 дня назад
Loath small talk 😂
@PeterJoubert1972
@PeterJoubert1972 6 дней назад
I can relate to so many of these 55 signs, not all of them, but most. Saying that, it is validating to see so many of my traits condensed into one video. This is a lot of information and I will watch this video several times to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
@crissyretroguitarvideos3933
@crissyretroguitarvideos3933 6 дней назад
I love videos like this. Content like this led me to strongly suspect that I was actually autistic & this year at 45 I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist here in the UK. My experience makes a lot more sense now & I’m so glad and relieved to know. So to Orion & others who make this style of content; thank you, truly! X
@tihana13
@tihana13 5 дней назад
2:13 "I would say 'just enough questions'" 😂 Oh boy! Worded so perfectly! YES!
@tomh5094
@tomh5094 6 дней назад
If you include the 55 or so traits that i had in the last list to this list , I gotta be topping 100. ( there's obviously overlap, just being dramatic but I am clearly autistic ) When I went to my GP for a diagnosis I was put on anti depressants ....twice, then signed up to online cbt, then given 8 sessions of counseling. Eventually i got diagnosed with adhd privately which sent me down the path towards autism. I returned to my GP to ask about getting an assessment and then he sent me to my local mental health clinic with a anxiety disorder query. Thankfully, luckily, the psychiatrist that i was sent to also just so happened to diagnose children (my GP did not know) and she instantly recognised. And now they want GP's to diagnose. Same thing being pushed over here in Ireland now. Seems like they're rolling out that strategy you talked about for all neurodivergent groups. I'm part of a group connected with one of the largest charities related to this stuff here. When i pointed out the problems I was basically told to stop being so negative. I should feel lucky with what they've done. I was told this by other neurodivergent folks who just so happen to work for said charity. I'm so tired of how people are these days. Lies after lies and gaslighting when you call them out. It's everywhere ;(
@BeeWhistler
@BeeWhistler 6 дней назад
As an AuDHD, written communication helps both with processing time AND with my unfortunately poor memory. This is even more beneficial when you consider the fact that not all neurotypicals have good memories or are, in fact, honest. So I can reread a conversation and establish a number of valuable things… that I complied with all the details I was asked to complete in a task, that I was told a certain thing, what time I said or did a thing based upon when the interaction took place, that I told another person something when they say I didn’t (because “you’re so forgetful”), etc. It can facilitate all sorts of things and offer legal protection in transactions or in restraining orders, custody disputes, you name it. I fail to see the faults, really.
@amandamandamands
@amandamandamands 5 дней назад
All so relatable, it is videos like that this that make me wonder how it wasn't picked up earlier (I'm one that figured it out and then sort out a diagnosis)
@BellaSwan18
@BellaSwan18 6 дней назад
2:35 I had a boss tell me in 2018 my emails were too brusque and unprofessional. I was literally just trying to directly ask for information.
@BellaSwan18
@BellaSwan18 6 дней назад
16:14 also. The finger/nail picking. Since I can remember I do that. And I don’t know how to describe it other than it makes me feel calm.
@michaelmacpherson-wm6mh
@michaelmacpherson-wm6mh 6 дней назад
one funny thing I notice reading the ebay comment sections is the comments on Autism are all much longer than comments on most other topics. we are a long winded bunch.
@jennifermarches3459
@jennifermarches3459 3 дня назад
😂 I am an ecommerce seller. My listings are lengthy too
@AudioMayhem100
@AudioMayhem100 9 минут назад
Watching every stand-up I could find online and awaiting the perfect time to drop comedy on others became my socializing strategy in school. Comedy can start friendships and calm tense situations if applied properly.
@nancyziegler5724
@nancyziegler5724 6 дней назад
100%, you are in my head. i can so relate to most all of these! Thank you for understanding me Orion. I feel freedom.
@A.Abercrombie-uo9ji
@A.Abercrombie-uo9ji 6 дней назад
I can relate to a lot of these traits but I just wanted to say that the second you started discussing impulse control and how as autistics we suffer from impulse control , my mind went straight to the topic of addiction the moment you said it too 😱🤯 great minds... LoL. Seriously, I have been wondering about the correlation between addiction and mental health issues, and more recently, autism. Mostly due to my own personal struggles with misdiagnosis and over medication, leading to addiction and now recovery and realizing the fact that I am autistic and ADHD not bipolar. Thanks again so much for your videos and insights! I've been able to start working on my way to a healthier place and I definitely have content creators like yourself to thank. I do hope you will explore the correlation between addiction and autism more in the future.
@GeorgeDaDragon
@GeorgeDaDragon 2 дня назад
In regards to #53 (Multi-step Instructions): What I find hilarious is the old discourse over IKEA instructions. The thing is as a AuDHD individual I've never had any issues with the instructions for IKEA furniture, everything is well laid out, properly diagrammed, everything is done in a logical order to minimize the effort required, and all parts needed are properly labeled and separated for ease of installation. Yet for some reason the general discourse was they were too difficult to understand. Feels like the kind of people who toss all the hardware into a pile and usually ignore instructions altogether. Pictures are one of the most universal forms of communication that doesn't require you to know a language, which makes sense for a company like IKEA that sells in so many countries.
@andi56837ykvk
@andi56837ykvk 6 дней назад
Small talk… I asked my husband about this recently “why do ppl initiate with small talk?”. Apparently it’s a way for the other person to get a sense about you, how you think and what state of mind you’re in. Maybe it’s cuz literature has been a passion of mine since childhood but I do enjoy poetry and using analogies. But overall I strongly agree that I prefer written communication and avoid telephone calls unless absolutely needed. When I have a call with a family member I try to encourage them to use video. I like to think that it minimises the chances the other person will misunderstand me. What I’ve loved about the discovery of adhd and autism is that I now have a reason / cause behind my quirks, experiences and struggles. I’ve struggled with friendships thru out my life. It’s like there’s an invisible brick, social conventions, that I can’t see but I keep tripping up on it. I have learnt to improve my social interactions a bit, and I make sure to greet and ask how the other person is. But if they ask me how I’m doing, I tell them lol 😂
@VirtualTrucker74
@VirtualTrucker74 6 дней назад
I certainly don't have difficulty with small talk, infact the smaller the talk the better lol
@EastElbow
@EastElbow 5 дней назад
Thank you for this. I just got tested and I am waiting for my results. Hopefully I'll get answers. This video describes me for sure.
@loisrogers9042
@loisrogers9042 5 дней назад
This was a wonderful presentation! I haven't commented for a while, but I really enjoy your videos, and learn a lot from them.😊
@resourcedragon
@resourcedragon 6 дней назад
43. Logical instructions that are simple to follow. Oh, yes. I regard it as a matter of simple courtesy that people are provided with simple, logical, easy to follow instructions. Dot points are great. Throw in some bold text *and make sure the bloody font is big enough to read.* Furthermore, people should be told _why_ they need to do something, that makes it easier to remember what they need to do. (I find that I simply cannot remember things if I don't understand them.)
@peglynch9624
@peglynch9624 4 дня назад
Orion, whenever I want to feel better I go to your channel! Thank you!
@bryonyvaughn2427
@bryonyvaughn2427 6 дней назад
I not only feel deeply seen, you articulated things about me I’d never focused on before. It gives me ways to advocate for myself and my needs I didn’t have before. Thank you, Orion. You’ve made a positive difference for me.
@Figuringitout7
@Figuringitout7 12 часов назад
Yes, yes and yes! I’m struggling greatly so I’m binge watching Your channel Orien. I find it very interesting that the community who gets me isn’t “in person “. So close yet still so far away. I take what I can get. Thank you. I hope you understand just how helpful your content is. I’m very grateful. Through your channel I’ve found mom on the spectrum, NDJen, Woodshed theory. You all are awesome!!! Much Thankz
@Grace.allovertheplace
@Grace.allovertheplace 4 дня назад
24:38 ✅ I was just 4 years old and could explain perfectly what I read
@heidimj1380
@heidimj1380 6 дней назад
Bingo! My brain just celebrated 55 times. Although we are all different, and as I am just at the start of my own unmasking, I can feel the relevance in my freaking bones for each one. Unknowingly masking for a half century has trained me to exist uncomfortably, and actually seem to contradict many of your listed attributes. I don't know any better! But I can say Hallelujah, how good it will feel to finally be direct, to flush the small talk, and to be alone when I want to be alone. Thank you SO much Orion! 🙏
@pegachey7728
@pegachey7728 3 дня назад
Ive become super good at recalling where my adhd husband leaves his keys or wallet or whatever because i can remember exactly where i saw it last and can recall those memories really clearly. Almost like a whole picture my brian took of the iteam in question. It always makes me feel like im not all that useless. :)
@Morazet
@Morazet 6 дней назад
I was diagnosed with ADHD half a year ago at the age of 31, and I can more or less relate to almost every sign. Not sure if I only have ASD, ADHD, or both now, lol...
@dn3305
@dn3305 5 дней назад
Haha same :'D I can't tell where those disgnoses can be seperated. Someone said: when you take ADHD-meds and your life gets easier, it's ADHD. If it stays hard and you still feel weird, it's possibly (also) autism 😆
@chairmanrexton956
@chairmanrexton956 День назад
This is me through and through. I’ve never been officially diagnosed, but I’m convinced (so is my wife) that I’m autistic. I’ve always struggled to fit in, read the room, and my communication style offends upsets other people. As far as impulse control goes, I’ve managed to bring the food stuff under control by ditching sugar and carbs and going ketovore. This has also enabled me to shed most of the unwanted kilos and eliminated chronic nasal and joint inflammation, and clear the brain fog.
@kylieroth2326
@kylieroth2326 2 дня назад
I just got diagnosed. Was shocked it wasn’t adhd. And now way too many things make sense. Thank you for this video.
@bertrandgordon1968
@bertrandgordon1968 6 дней назад
Only 48 out of 55. I'm healed! Praise the loooooord!
@deingewissen_official
@deingewissen_official 6 дней назад
😂🎉
@kuibeiguahua
@kuibeiguahua 4 дня назад
Your blood can act as a vaccine now!!!!
@tamaraholloway9634
@tamaraholloway9634 6 дней назад
Orion, I can't comprehend the "too honest", "too straightforward" thing either! Blows my mind. I don't know how to be any other way. And when I try to understand what they mean, or why you shouldn't just say what you mean, and mean what you say, no one can or will explain it to you! But they get mad you don't understand the invisible social code?!
@robynfromcanada
@robynfromcanada 5 дней назад
Those last few minutes about "me time" negateing resentment resonate with me!! I love the colors of your shirt, Orion! ❤
@isabellammusic
@isabellammusic 6 дней назад
This helps me understand my characteristics and I can also send it to people who need to understand Autism better!
@NitFlickwick
@NitFlickwick 6 дней назад
I have an neuropsychological assessment scheduled in a few weeks. I’ve already got around 50 pages of notes, but this gives me a great idea: go through all 55 and write down how they apply to me (most do, some don’t).
@grooviechickie
@grooviechickie 6 дней назад
I've got what I call my A LIST. 😂 pages and pages of notes and scribblings about my potential autism, spreading over the last 5 years. Odd (i.e. not NT) things that I've noted about myself etc. Vids like these are wonderfully helpful because we can reflect and consider if we feel seen and understood. Good luck with your assessment! ❤
@brianfoster4434
@brianfoster4434 6 дней назад
Thank you for this content. Concerning telephone calls. I may be getting cynical in my old age. But... In an office environment, I think NT People insist on phone calls in order to make people agree to something before any thought can be put into the details of that thing or what is required to do that thing. Many NT people go through life looking at things from the 30,000-foot view. I hate that term by the way. I also view these calls as an attempt by the NT person to control me. Meaning... they are effectively saying my thing is more important than the thing you are doing at this moment in time. I have difficulty with transition. So, and unexpected phone call can create a 30-minute disruption in productivity. All for a five-minute call in which I tell the person to please send me an email and I will review the requirements and get back to you. NT people also use voice calls to waste time. They talk about nonsense for 5 or 10 minutes before getting to the point.
@msmltvcktl
@msmltvcktl 6 дней назад
Today, i think it's moreso that NTs have zero grammatical skills (or they just aren't being taught in schools anymore); sending an email rife with misspellings and lacking punctuation looks terribly unprofessional.
@rongravelle603
@rongravelle603 6 дней назад
I agree. I also find phone calls to be interruptions. The caller is requesting me to drop what I’m doing to listen to their pitches. I don’t answer the phone any more unless it’s from a number I know. Even then only if I feel like talking to them
@russc67
@russc67 4 дня назад
Agreed about being put on the spot for an answer straight away on the phone, it has parallels with pressure selling telesales techniques (which I really don't like), where you're not allowed the time to go and research it first. Where the phone does save time is when a customer is proposing some vague project idea, and I'm able to question them on all the details that I need to know to even be able to go away and think about a possible solution. When that happens by email, and I reply back with a load of detail questions, they tend to not read it properly and don't answer all the questions, or answer them ambiguously, so it gets into a lengthy cycle of further email questioning, and feeling that they will be getting annoyed by it. By phone, if they want an answer straight away and it's not something simple enough to answer straight off, I just say I need to think about and will get back to them, because I don't want to give them false hope or a dishonest answer.
@WhileAKyle85
@WhileAKyle85 6 дней назад
I definitely prefer writing. Especially responding to someone else. Me trying to verbally respond.... Ugh.
@AshleyReneeVlog
@AshleyReneeVlog 3 дня назад
This is one of your best done videos ever! I wish I could hand it out to every person I meet and get them to watch it so maybe they have some clue of what they are getting into before we decide to interact or not 😂
@Wavarii
@Wavarii День назад
Thanks. It's great to hear so many things that make autism such a likely fit for me. I am aware of most of the autistic tendencies by now, but a long list like this helps remind me. It paints a clear and compelling picture.
@lhitch2900
@lhitch2900 5 дней назад
Thanks Orion for doing this video, I will be watching it many times over!
@naturallyraw
@naturallyraw День назад
This is such an amazingly accurate list. Thank you for sharing!
@tdsollog
@tdsollog 6 дней назад
I’m not officially diagnosed (for reasons). Can relate to “too many” of these.
@Tichaba124
@Tichaba124 4 дня назад
Oh my gosh Orion! Thank you so much! I finally feel like I am not stupid, not slow, not clumsy,etc.! You are a lifesaver!
@Sprchnge
@Sprchnge 5 дней назад
the written instruction thing is so real
@nalijapetek6271
@nalijapetek6271 6 дней назад
I think "small talk" is like a warm-up exercise berofe the real thing. It might even be similar to "slow processing speed" as they are "warming up their conversational engine".
@Clare_LDA
@Clare_LDA 6 дней назад
Defined love the written communication. But saying that I finally started my own channel - thanks for the encouragement Orion.
@barbaradoye1989
@barbaradoye1989 6 дней назад
I paused and rewinded so many times! My mind kept going to my personal experiences and I just couldn't concentrate! 😂😀 But I got through it because it is important and very validating. I feel closer to our community, too! I am forever grateful for you to put this out there. You represent our community extremely well, my friend! Thank you. Take care! 😀
@RowanRiverstone
@RowanRiverstone 4 дня назад
Enhanced pattern recognition prevents me from enjoying most fiction because it's predictable to me within the first few paragraphs or lines. It also usually keeps me away from abusive people because I see what they're trying to do very early on.
@lindseycassella3015
@lindseycassella3015 6 дней назад
The more i learn about autism the more I relate. I have been diagnosed with ADHD, OCD and anxiety disorder. After going through some challenges in my life that caused me to really struggle with my identity for a few years I've gotten to a place where I'm rediscovering myself and I'm realizing that I've been treated a certain way whenever I tried showing up as myself that caused me to depersonalize. I didn't understand until recently how I got to that point. Changes in routine are incredibly difficult. I liked myself but society didn't accept me. Behaviors that were deemed inappropriate like interrupting because i didn't know when to speak. Talking to myself outloud makes people uncomfortable which i can understand to an extent but it helps me self regulate when I'm feeling overwhelmed. When I'm learning something new i need to repeat the steps outloud to slow my thinking down. Autism just makes so much more sense to me than OCD. All the things i "obsessed" were things I I did out of enjoyment or self soothing. I had the occasional thought if I don't do this thing something bad will happen but it was managable. I remember asking if it was OCD trait not liking the texture of cardboard or the smell and they told me it could be. It's interesting to self reflect on things you were told were something else in a different light. Going to back to authenticity. I now understand why I hated doing sales so much. I can't straight-up lie to someone about a product I think is a waste of money. If it was a product I could back 100% up then no problem!
@FroscoTraining
@FroscoTraining 4 дня назад
Hi mate, nice video. Since you mentioned diet, I have a tip for you fir next time. You can actually eat a lot on a diet, don't go hungry! The simplest way is eating lots of veg, with less solid food for example. Basically eat low calorie dense food. Add less oil or no oil when cooking. Avoid high cal toppings etc. Maybe have fruit for desert. Stuff like that.
@russc67
@russc67 4 дня назад
I identify with pretty much every one of these, except for the phone one where it's a more complex relationship. I'm startled if the phone rings unexpectedly and put out if I'm in the middle of something, and I don't really like calling someone if I'm not sure if I might be interrupting them when they are busy doing something, but once I'm in a call with someone I know and like, I can natter away comfortably for hours. It's easier than talking face to face, because I don't need to feel self-conscious about not making good eye contact. It's also a quicker way to deal with requests and instructions than email, because I can ask for clarifications on the spot and reiterate my understanding back to them to check I've understood. By email, I get ambiguous requests which I then reply to at length to try and get clarification, only to then receive a reply that leaves me with more questions than before. In email the temptation is to monologue at great length, spending hours clearly explaining every detail, rereading, editing and adding more detail before finally sending it, but then find out later that they only skimmed it and missed the whole point.
@kellyschroeder7437
@kellyschroeder7437 6 дней назад
Thank you Orion. Relate to lots of this. 💙👊
@ernestinegrace4593
@ernestinegrace4593 6 дней назад
@9:57 YESSSS!!!!!! 😂 I feel that one.
@carinaluxford241
@carinaluxford241 6 дней назад
Brilliant, a very interesting podcast! I can relate to most of these traits, some of them very strongly.
@Codeman2017
@Codeman2017 5 дней назад
For me, I understand hypothetical questions and can see their potential utility. But there are two problems: first, there is never any way to guarantee that somebody’s answer to a hypothetical question would be proven to be accurate, no matter how sincerely their response. That sort of defeats the purpose. The other issue I have with hypotheticals is that they are highly ambiguous. I need *all* the information before I can even begin to know how to answer. In an interview when someone says “What would you do in situation X?” I find myself completely unable to answer until I’m satisfied that I have every relevant detail: who else will be there? What time of day is it? What mood am I in? What mood are the other people in? How old am I when this happens? Are the other people involved honest or dishonest? Are there rules related to this topic that I am unaware of or that currently don’t apply to me? Long story short: I need you to fill in all the details in order to know what *you* are really asking me.
@staciehulm4595
@staciehulm4595 6 дней назад
My GP is in the process of referring me for testing to see if I'm autistic. In the meantime, I've had a sense of peace listening to your videos and carrying on as if I already have the diagnosis. I've been able to come off my meds, so it's no small thing how your videos have helped. One thing I do now is to remain quiet in neurotypical settings. That way, I don't need to perseverate later about things I may have said wrong. It makes being around other people a little easier. Don't get me wrong... I have a lot to say, but I've found that no one seems to care much about what I say anyway. Sometimes I actually offend people without meaning to. So, it's just better if I remain quiet.
@sophiegolden
@sophiegolden 6 дней назад
That you very much Orion, that s brilliant 😊
@SantaBJ
@SantaBJ 3 дня назад
Regarding the attention to detail thing, I like to think about it like this: Neurotyicals continuously generate a bird's eye overview of anything they are learning or observing. Paint comes in, paint goes on the canvas, neurotypicals analyse the picture as it develops. Autistic people construct a foundations for any overview that may later be needed based on the details they are learning or observing. Paint comes in, gets classified and arranged in the right way, and then the picture can be painted later when you have enough of the details to start painting. Decision psychology has this concept of cognitive "system 1 and system 2", where system 1 is the quick, non-conscious, intuitive, low-effort processing mode of the brain that just sees thing come in and does thing without much cognitive effort - and system 2 is the slow, deliberate, conscious, intentional processing mode for information that the brain doesn't immediately recognise. My thinking now is basically that I think autistic people's system 1 is less active for autistic people, which means more of the information we take in we have to actively, consciously process.
@davidbrussard-composer7372
@davidbrussard-composer7372 6 дней назад
Great video! I'm already diagnosed, but I'm always down to learn more!
@yukifoxscales
@yukifoxscales 6 дней назад
So, for me, as a klid who's dad was in the US Army, I think I partially went under the radar because my oddities[!] were just taken as being from somewhere else, and partially because in the 70s and even 80s, everyone knew girls weren't Autistic. But I realized that I avoid eye contact because if I look people in the eyes, I get distracted, so if I look away I can actually remember what I needed to talk to the person about [and not remember a year and a half later [when I went to try and get an assessment] that I had my phone and I could have just called my mom and handed the doctor the phone - now, no one here does adults, except one place that doesn't take my insurance and is too expensive. And well, I might be weird, but I find it harder to be around NTs I do know, than to be around Audis and Hypers that I don't know. Its like I understand them easier and they seem to understand me better, and if they don't at first, are more willing to let me clarify things.
@annerigby4400
@annerigby4400 6 дней назад
About the memory thing, my brother would amaze me because he could look at a photo of any time any place containing people or not and say what day and year it was and what the name of that place is and also what we did that day. All I could remember, once he gave that information was who was there and what we talked about, if I remembered the place at all. He would ask me how I could remember such details, hahahahaahaha! I think he purposefully omitted the word 'useless' before the word 'details', hahahaha!
@angellicaderanged
@angellicaderanged 21 час назад
The phone thing! I absolutely loathe phone calls. I was late diagnosed and could never explain to anyone why I just hated being on the phone so much. I wrote letters to those I wanted to talk to well after cell phones were a thing...
@Jan46
@Jan46 11 часов назад
I have been crying the entire video... why...
@kensears5099
@kensears5099 6 дней назад
I remember moment in my family life from before I reached one year of age. Vividly. In detail.
@chrismaxwell1624
@chrismaxwell1624 6 дней назад
Me too sever memories before 1 years of age.
@vg3596
@vg3596 2 дня назад
I "scored" 51 1/2 out of the 55 - - i don't speak in monotone - i enjoy abstract thinking - i don't really monolog - i don't have difficulties with figurative speech - multistep instructions, I'm great with written, but absolutely awful with verbal
@eyupnel
@eyupnel 5 дней назад
Full house! 😅 Great video, just found you today 😊
@caralynn.
@caralynn. 6 дней назад
Does anyone else find it very annoying that the internet used to be filled with well written how-to guides on any subject you could think of, frequently with diagrams, and now it's all youtube videos with someone explaining how to do the thing? It drives me nuts...
@Cnsalmoni
@Cnsalmoni 6 дней назад
Having to communicate with the ai that never gets my question when I need help, then after trying to reword the question several times, finally getting a person, who then gives the same default answer. By then, I’m pissed, and end up sending pics with arrows, specific indicators, etc. I miss the days where I can bring something in and have the human help me right away.
@caralynn.
@caralynn. 5 дней назад
@@Cnsalmoni Ugggghhhh... The endless phone trees just to find out that I already know more about my issue than the human I finally reach because I'm not about to make a phone call without hours of research first. My propane guy caused immediate concern by calculating 80% if 150 gallons *wrong*
@juliaboles7138
@juliaboles7138 4 дня назад
Wow! 96.36% of that is me. Thank you. That is very relatable.
@naesydarb9
@naesydarb9 3 дня назад
Thanks for sharing your autistic videos, it's always brings a smile to my face knowing to relate to these days ✌🏻✌🏻
@carlamarinacosta4855
@carlamarinacosta4855 6 дней назад
I learned to navigate the NT word through the books I read, I've been a bookworm since I learned how when I was 4 years old. I like to have space to explore my interests alone, but I'm uncomfortable alone in my house. The rest of the points describe me perfectly.
@user-fv6kk2vj9j
@user-fv6kk2vj9j 3 дня назад
One thing I've always struggled with is the notion that I'm supposed to be "logical" in my thinking as an autistic person, and yet my emotions are the thing with which I struggle the most. They always come ahead of any notion of logic. I'm also poor at applying myself in other areas requiring logic; maths and science were a struggle for me, philosophy and English lit were where I excelled. But then again, it's possible that I also have ADHD. The two come with their own conflicting difficulties.
@autisticMargo
@autisticMargo 6 дней назад
My BINGO card is full. Great video
@colleend80
@colleend80 6 дней назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH ORION 🙏🏼 THAT IS SUPER HELPFUL 🚩🆘️🌈⚖️🌪💔
@heathergrahame9647
@heathergrahame9647 3 дня назад
"You may die before we finish our monologue. You're welcome." Haa that's great.
@arcanethievery
@arcanethievery 5 дней назад
I would argue with authenticity, I bet there are many other autistic folks, and not just me, who - because of trying to blending in heavily because of very bad experiences - feels generally that they are anything but authentic. :( Which gives another layer of pressure on self loathing. I hate that feeling when I know that a certain reaction is the opposite of me but I am afraid of being myself becausethat way I will be resented/seen as an idiot/ridiculous etc.
@katw01
@katw01 6 дней назад
Good Day Orion.
@sarahwardle5556
@sarahwardle5556 6 дней назад
Thanks Orion now I will be repeating the word familiarity for hours until it sounds right🤣🤣🤣
@joeharris2659
@joeharris2659 17 часов назад
I’m not sure if I’m autistic or not (although 95% of online quizzes seem to think I am) but a lot of these resonate with me. Some of them, though, are worlds away from me - especially the unease with ambiguity. I’m a university lecturer specialising in literature, and so teasing out ambiguities to offer multiple readings of texts is my metaphorical bread and butter*. But perhaps I’m just hyper-aware of it and have embraced it. *Actually, to the extent that ‘bread’ can mean ‘money’, ambiguity is technically more like my metonymic bread and butter since it’s associated with the way I earn my living.
@bes03c
@bes03c 5 дней назад
I think i excessively follow social etiquette. Social etiquette is based on rules. Figuring out rules and following them makes unfamiliar situatuons less uncomfortable. I think the "strong moral compass" is also part of sicial etiquette to me.
@jennifermarches3459
@jennifermarches3459 3 дня назад
There is very good online tests folks from reputable websites for adults. Great jumping off point.
@BellaSwan18
@BellaSwan18 6 дней назад
9:56 YES! Mine is partial- I call it knowing where my “edges” are. Usually my hormones mess it up and I have a week a month where I run into MORE stuff than usual because I can’t tell where my edges are. Or if I’m upset. Or distracted. The number of times I regularly hip check doorjambs
@BellaSwan18
@BellaSwan18 6 дней назад
39:38 oh god this. It took me so long to realize when I go nonverbal I can still text/write. It happens sometimes in therapy, and I switch to the chat until I find my voice again.
@Oona707
@Oona707 3 дня назад
This is my brain handbook ❤ ❤❤
@BA-hp2fr
@BA-hp2fr 6 дней назад
This video is God Dam brilliant
@pikmin4743
@pikmin4743 6 дней назад
always great. thank you. I didn't count but I experience at least 50% of these too..ahem, more like 80% lol
@Pinchington
@Pinchington 4 дня назад
Anyone play Rimworld? The 'work priority' tab is set to a different default. Our self care tasks are set to 4. Our passions change daily. Our crafting and hauling is set to priority 1. Our intellectual skill is at 20, but often times we are to focused on other tasks and don't get to our self care. Then we have a mental break lol
@jennifermarches3459
@jennifermarches3459 3 дня назад
#4 Special interests that you love that you love talking passionately about and it seems everyone time you speak to people about it they don't seem interested and they glaze over and you don't quite understand why they don't love the topic like you do.
@dn3305
@dn3305 5 дней назад
Uh and please try water chestnut!! For me it has one of the best consistencies and mouth-feelings 😍
@snowman7740
@snowman7740 6 дней назад
I can relate to a lot of things you said even though I was diagnosed with autism when I was 1 I will be 25 in 5 months
@Lovepeacenmusic18
@Lovepeacenmusic18 2 дня назад
The real reason I have avoided getting a haircut for over a year now is because of small talk. It’s so awkward and weird and you’re stuck in that chair with nowhere to escape while being subjected to the script of small talk. Then you have to take the cape off and walk to the hair washing stations and other clients in the salon watch you walk over and there’s just no privacy! “Oh so why don’t you just visit a one-on-one home salon if you prefer privacy?” Because then you’re stuck in this small space with one other person who wants to talk and you’re their only option 😅 I guess at least in open salons, your hairdresser can talk to other hairdressers and clients too.
@AutisticAwakeActivist
@AutisticAwakeActivist День назад
All of these and the instructions 😅I’ve struggled with. My neighbour just put 7 flat packs up for me because they were complex.
@OpheliathePotato
@OpheliathePotato 5 дней назад
Haha... I really like and prefer all foods that are squishy, chewy (like Japanese mochi), slimey and so on. I don't like crunchy things. 😂😂😂
@saml4004
@saml4004 3 дня назад
“The doors haven’t moved in my house”. I assure you, they HAVE. I know this to be true because the doors and all furniture moves in my house all the time. If they didn’t, I wouldn’t run into them constantly. 🤣
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