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Awakening to Watchtower Deceptions: The Journey of a Dedicated Pioneer Unveiled 

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In this interview with Goatlike Personality, JT learns a different perspective on racism in European countries and it has nothing to do with the color of your skin. During the discussion, Goatlike talks about why he could have been a PIMO for life, if the brothers would have only helped his wife to appreciate that Jehovah loves a cheerful giver.
As a fourth generation Jehovah's Witness, the only thing Goatlike feared growing up was being a member of the Bethel family. After taking many trips to Bethel throughout his childhood, his mother kept saying that you should always do what the Watchtower wants. Of course, he knew exactly what that meant.
Goatlike speaks his truth about the Watchtower and how knowing something about science and geology can help dispel many myths about the Bible. As humans, we have many pieces to the puzzle at our fingertips, but we are too afraid to place them in their respective place. All you have to do is be willing to look at the facts. When Goatlike began examining the animal kingdom and Noah's ark, he looked at the situation with the kangaroo and realized that he wasted a decade of his life.
If only Jehovah's Witnesses can talk opening, Goatlike believes that the religion will crumble over night.
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@akbflo
@akbflo 2 года назад
I wish she knew how much he loves her. He clearly loves her more than anyone on the planet.
@angelatabbs2567
@angelatabbs2567 2 года назад
His love for her is beautiful!
@fortunateawakening
@fortunateawakening 2 года назад
We were fooled by the lies of this horrible organization! Killing the innocent spiritually and physically. Praying for healing for all abused by the JW organization 🙏🏾
@theresefournier3269
@theresefournier3269 2 года назад
Ahmein
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 2 года назад
Two of my favourite apostates.
@elguapo221
@elguapo221 2 года назад
I think of most "apostates" that still retain thier faith in Christ as more or Heritics to Watchtower 😊
@charlesomalley9564
@charlesomalley9564 2 года назад
Yes, these folks are great! Jay the comedian was awesome too until he started Trump bashing.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 2 года назад
@@elguapo221 Yeah! You are correct. I got you.
@claudiaherrera2224
@claudiaherrera2224 2 года назад
Two wonderful channels and two great guys
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 2 года назад
The sense of humour of Goatlike personality is so infectious. And I am drinking a Vodka.🥃 Thank you JT for this video.🙌🏿👍🏿👌🏿
@b1crusade384
@b1crusade384 2 года назад
It is funny but it mask deep pain. He will never admit it though.
@mahatanyawarra1705
@mahatanyawarra1705 2 года назад
Yaz the humor just comes naturally to him ..he killed me when he said the 2 kangaroos just broke his jehovah shelf 🤣🤣
@freddyray6805
@freddyray6805 2 года назад
I loved Goatlike Personality's interview, he's a good person. That's correct, if there is a separation in a marriage the one that sticks to the JWs is the one that will be considered to be correct. It's a messed up rules based religion.
@rockpadstudios
@rockpadstudios 2 года назад
His vid on loosing his family had me in tears and I don't cry that often anymore.
@lb8914
@lb8914 2 года назад
The pain in this poor mans story and voice, he loves his wife dearly ex or not
@sweetcherryblossom9708
@sweetcherryblossom9708 2 года назад
This interview was both heartbreaking and heartwarming . Watch tower is so abusive and needs to be made accountable. Really appreciate the work you both do to expose this heartless organisation and to support those leaving it.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 2 года назад
Yes the amount of collateral damage done to people for human opinions that have been elevated to Divine Status Is untold. In 140 yr just how many folks both baptized and unbaptized as well as Bible students whose lives have been impacted The number is untold
@woketointelofjws6670
@woketointelofjws6670 2 года назад
Two of my favourite people. My dream one day to meet both of you and your family
@vaughnwoss4990
@vaughnwoss4990 2 года назад
"The evil that comes from facts is less than the evil that comes from ignorance" Great thanks JT! Great thanks Jonas!
@Caracaraorangeberry
@Caracaraorangeberry 2 года назад
i could have listened for another two hours. this was really great. thank you.
@pollygraph8623
@pollygraph8623 2 года назад
Paul and Polly say, That was an absolutely beautiful interview. Very heartfelt and heart wrenching. We have utmost respect for how Jonas stood up for what was right despite the challenges he faced. The elders/shepherds that he dealt with should be absolutely and utterly ashamed for their lack of love and empathy. We truly are so sorry for your pain and abuse!! We too, like many were in a congregation with a particularly abusive elder who was Dutch, and although we have many friends that are Dutch and lovely people HE had a particular saying he would often use. If you aint Dutch, you aint much. The abuse goes deep in this organization in so manly different ways. We love Goatlike personality humor and website and it has offered much encouragement to many
@sofiamorgan6644
@sofiamorgan6644 2 года назад
What a special treat. Two of my favorite people! Critical Thinker and Goatlike Personality. You both have done so much to help us wake up. Love you both.
@joegonzalez842
@joegonzalez842 2 года назад
Those elders go from janitors to Psychologist in a heart beat, and that should make your heart beat if you are a JW
@natashapeeters988
@natashapeeters988 2 года назад
Lol, les tj ont un Coeur de Betterave! 🙄
@P3cNavyBrat
@P3cNavyBrat 2 года назад
I never thought it that way, but it is so true
@marlowebster487
@marlowebster487 2 года назад
My favourite GOAT 🐐 from Sweden 🇸🇪 living in Norway 🇳🇴, being interviewed by my favourite channel in America 🇺🇸on critical thinking 💭 regarding the organisation in the USA. I really hated the classification of “worldly people “… It’s funny when we try to do more and learn a foreign language can wake someone 🆙 When you’re in need of help that’s when they drag people down and label them as spiritually weak when they maybe in mental or physical turmoil. It’s heartbreaking 💔 to watch broken people are left feeling less than in a time of need. Thanks for sharing Goatlike ❣️
@leahmelton5776
@leahmelton5776 2 года назад
Thank you! I love watching both of you! Keep up the good work. (former reg pioneer here, family all still "in")
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
How long did you pioneer?
@leahmelton5776
@leahmelton5776 2 года назад
@@GoatlikePersonalityI pioneered 2 years.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
@@leahmelton5776 I wasted 9 years :-(
@leahmelton5776
@leahmelton5776 2 года назад
@@GoatlikePersonality oh. I'm so sorry. We thought we were doing right at the time. :( I remember the elders called me to back room after I has pioneered about 12 months. I had missed making the 90 hours by 2-3 hours for past 3 months. I was in tears because they really got onto me...Now, I think back, and should have just lied about my time.
@Conmezzo
@Conmezzo 2 года назад
The pain in Jona's voice is heartbreaking yet he doesn't speak ill of her and r & f JWs. Yet he still has an infectious sense of humor.
@cleareyesandopenmind9054
@cleareyesandopenmind9054 2 года назад
Jonas is usually so positive and funny dealing with life. However, when he spoke of his ex-wife, he teared up. That is how much pain WT has caused. That is how much he cared.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 2 года назад
Goatlike - "If Jehovah's Witnesses were allowed to talk to each other, the Organization would collapse." JT - "Overnight!" It doesn't get more real than this.
@patriciabusch4599
@patriciabusch4599 2 года назад
Free thought or critical thinking repression is ALWAYS a red flag. Don't let ANYONE tell you who to befriend, what to think, when to question discrepancies, where you can spend your time, why you cant question anything or how you should live your own life.
@kimberlyfarris1280
@kimberlyfarris1280 2 года назад
All of what you said are reasons why I woke up. I had a friend who had been a pioneer for many years that faded i knew she left the cult and was living a normal life celebrating holidays and had a boyfriend she was living with but I still remained her friend. We had been best friends and that didn’t change between us. So when I told some JWs that I was visiting her they told me I shouldn’t and I needed to becareful. I mentioned to them the scripture that said Jehovah doesn’t forget the good things that you’ve done for him and his name. And I said so are you telling me that Jehovah has forgotten all the many years of pioneering and all the loyal years that she had given him? Blank looks is what I got. I just knew something was wrong with being told who I can be friends with and who I can’t. I’m a grown woman and unless you are paying my bills you don’t have any rights telling me what to do.
@alpaphoenix3252
@alpaphoenix3252 2 года назад
Very well said 👏
@patriciabusch4599
@patriciabusch4599 2 года назад
@@kimberlyfarris1280 *GIRL!!* *GIRL!!* A-FREAKIN-EN!!! *YES!!* GOD is the one that gave us free-will. Am I right???? I don't necessarily believe in the bible being a true account but *I DO* believe that the moral stories and matters presented *IN* the bible *should* be applied to every home life.
@patriciabusch4599
@patriciabusch4599 2 года назад
@@kimberlyfarris1280 *YES!* Whatever the "governing body" is feeding their followers in NOT GOD's word; it is THEIR word which means they are pretending to be GODS..
@50shadesofnewlight73
@50shadesofnewlight73 2 года назад
@@kimberlyfarris1280 I wish there was a double like button for this comment. The elders said it was to "punish" me for leaving that my JW daughter and Parents and siblings are not to talk to me, and deny me me a fathers right to walk my daughter down the aisle at her wedding or celebrate with them at the reception. I though what right / power do they have to punish us except that which we give them (and which our family members continue to follow :( ) I personally will give them no power over me or be told what to do by them.
@kimmychong7029
@kimmychong7029 2 года назад
Awww, I love goatlike! 💕
@TheDanfisk
@TheDanfisk 2 года назад
I am amazed at your mutual clear understanding of “The Truth.” [X] Lies upon Lies….
@herbt.1472
@herbt.1472 2 года назад
People learn more on their own rather than being force fed. - Socrates
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 2 года назад
PRECISELY !! 😉
@darlenepatrick4619
@darlenepatrick4619 2 года назад
Great interview. Jonas always drops knowledge. It was interesting to hear how other ethnic groups in slavic nations view one another. Jonas brought this out in his video about working in the Russian branch of the society. It's crazy how the society was able to enslave all of us with their false teachings even with the differences.
@helengrace6553
@helengrace6553 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your discussion. Watchtower is bitterly cruel. I hate what they did to my very sick old faithful Father. Peace and love to you both and your loved ones. 🕊❤️
@governingbodylanguage2025
@governingbodylanguage2025 2 года назад
I think I figured out why I like you so much Jonas. I was very sick and I could have died also. But when elders told me to do more I did not listen, I put my health first. I am still sick, but not as bad as long I take care of myself and see my doctors. I was mistreated by elders and C.O.s also (three of them, one was nice but he was playing "good cop" and reported back to WT for the next nasty C.O.) for not doing enough, but my husband has excused it. He is not a bad man, but he is blinded by the dogma. You are a good man, and I am so glad you found your current wife. I want to say bless you both, but in a secular way. ❤️, GBL
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
Thanx
@Hermwash1
@Hermwash1 2 года назад
Excellent interview!
@christinew3549
@christinew3549 2 года назад
Wow , when I think I've heard it all. His story is unbelievable and sad and crazy. He's so better off without that cult.
@dervish108
@dervish108 2 года назад
The story of them pushing Goatlike Personality’s wife to do service while she was sick is relatable. My mother and I both got covid and they tried to push me to do service when I had 103 degree fever. I quit within 24 hours.
@totally_a_spy
@totally_a_spy 2 года назад
To a lesser degree I know a lot of people throughout covid who have paused or decreased the amount of online meetings they're joining and they are getting shepherding calls. The organisation has a one track mind and no empathy towards those struggling in other areas of life
@sramdeojohn4428
@sramdeojohn4428 2 года назад
🙏Amen! When all our 'witnesses' works are not sufficient, we pray.
@princessag584
@princessag584 2 года назад
Enjoyed this interesting and sad commentary. He is ever the optimist in spite of what he has been through.
@adelachavez7894
@adelachavez7894 2 года назад
Love how you woke up with the kangaroos it is 💯 right . Thanks for informing us. Love your channels. I am disassociated since 2020. In my letter I did not use 1 scripture. I ask them not to come to my door because I would not open it. Also told them that I would not attend a judicial meeting because I did nothing wrong. I got in trouble for telling a sister about the Child Sexual Abuse problems that Watchtower is having.
@Gtumrths
@Gtumrths 2 года назад
In 2019 I publicly during a watchtower study commented that elders do not report child abuse and also do not report it to authorities when it is mandatory. Right after the meeting 2 pitbull elders „catchend“ me to go to the backroom….. I am still in because of my son…..I am living a lie.
@P3cNavyBrat
@P3cNavyBrat 2 года назад
@@Gtumrths are you "still in" because you introduced your son to organization and don't want lose him if you are disassociated?
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 2 года назад
That should be 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Goatlike go through this horrible experience and still smiling all the time. You deserve a tap on your shoulder for your courage. Next 🍺 on me buddy.
@natashapeeters988
@natashapeeters988 2 года назад
He just stopped drinking. . .
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 2 года назад
@@natashapeeters988 to bad then
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 2 года назад
Two of my favorite Ex-JW Channels on RU-vid!
@ayandambuyazi2103
@ayandambuyazi2103 2 года назад
Just started watching. I have been looking forward to this kind of collaboration interview Loved it. Absolutely true about the Watchtower being from an American perspective. I’m South African and so many things didn’t really fit and then had to mentally altered so you could still believe. Great interview JT and story telling and empathy from Goatlike
@nancytorres3963
@nancytorres3963 2 года назад
I am so Sorry Goatlike had to go through all he did, especially his wife in her sickness & how the Congregation approached this whole situation. This is Abominable!!!
@freeforyears4387
@freeforyears4387 2 года назад
Love you Jonas, you are one of the kindest people in the xJW community. You didn’t deserve to be treated like this for trying to take care of your sick wife. This organisation is evil beyond words.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 2 года назад
*"The evil that comes from facts is less evil than the evil that comes from ignorance."* - Goatlike Personality; Jonas.
@mikedraper138
@mikedraper138 2 года назад
I never realized till watching this interview what a kind and genuine person he is. His story was emotional and heart wrenching to listen to. Thank you both for all you do!
@cosymedia2257
@cosymedia2257 2 года назад
It's heartbreaking to see him crying over the way the organization treated his wife and broken his marriage. They actually mess up directly as indirectly with most people's lives and break families on purpose... And that's the real ISSUE
@fourthgirl5028
@fourthgirl5028 2 года назад
Great interview! Love both your Chanels. Love the comment on the Ahha moment and the JW shelf. Racism is strong in the Spanish congregations between the different geographic areas : Mexican, El Salvadorian, Peurto Rico, Venezuelan, Cuban, etc. I remember the brothers constantly giving talks about treating each other as equals and not showing partiality. It was a shock when I switch for the English in Spanish and realize this was an issue when in the English congregation, it was more of the black /white contrast.
@allfalldown6812
@allfalldown6812 2 года назад
Great interview with two of my favourite 'thought provoking' exJWs 🔥💯
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 2 года назад
There is no word in the dictionary like ""TRUELIE"" the TRUTH is the TRUTH and the LIE is LIE.. There is NO organization In the ""TRUTH"" ONLY JESUS CHRIST is the ""TRUTH"
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 2 года назад
BINGO ! 😏👍
@Smilingsun23
@Smilingsun23 2 года назад
You are absolutely correct Delilah.
@kimmychong7029
@kimmychong7029 2 года назад
Awww!!! I love goatlike!!
@summerseverson1267
@summerseverson1267 2 года назад
Love u guys
@inapickle4971
@inapickle4971 2 года назад
Great question, Jonas. “Where is the love?” I’ve asked that question about the organization for years now, with no answer.
@k.c.sinclair3176
@k.c.sinclair3176 2 года назад
What a phenomenal interview! Thank you for sharing your stories. This was absolutely fascinating and I could not stop watching. Bless you. ❤️
@hudsonchalmers6504
@hudsonchalmers6504 2 года назад
In Zimbabwe ,the Shona Language does not have the word for Paradise, so you have to try and explain : No droughts, No death, No Crime, crops are always plentiful, etc. Very polite and hospitable people. Ancestor worshippers. Do the Math
@haseleyes1
@haseleyes1 2 года назад
It’s like putting the engine through reveling and constantly having your foot on the gas. Sooner or later that engine is going to break. I am so happy I left. To much pressure.
@hudsonchalmers6504
@hudsonchalmers6504 2 года назад
Took me a long time to understand that there were only 1.5Million JW's in America, surely the need was greater there than in Africa
@shelleymartin4165
@shelleymartin4165 2 года назад
Loved this!! Two of my favorites together at last😃
@stephanie8243
@stephanie8243 2 года назад
I've heard of a lot of stories about why people woke up from the cult but if the answer to "how did you wake up?" is "kangaroos" then I'm listening to the ENTIRE interview. Lol that is awesome man
@clarkgrayhame1250
@clarkgrayhame1250 2 года назад
Wow, what an awesome interview. Jonas I am so sorry about what you went through. I felt your pain and it brought tears to my eyes. I appreciate your helping understand how certain things that we taught as being "truth" translated to your home. Wow trolls throwing the rocks were the nephilim. That had me laughing. Thanks
@simoneneveragain2939
@simoneneveragain2939 2 года назад
You are my very favorite. I have so much more appreciation why you became apostate. Every ex-jw has a story to tell and thankfully you have bravely stepped forward. I thank you dearly my courageous friend.
@michaelcorder1250
@michaelcorder1250 2 года назад
Great Work! I am so grateful for all the work you and your wife do! You all, and others, are honestly, and boldly sharing the TRUTH about the truth. Thank you. Continue this much needed Work. ❤️❤️❤️
@mercurydime8152
@mercurydime8152 2 года назад
So happy you both got together for an interview. Ya’ll are Rock Stars in my book!!!
@JayTheComedian
@JayTheComedian 2 года назад
Awesome!!!! I LOVE when my favorite people link up!!!! 👍🏽💪🏽😎
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
Howdy Jay. I wish you had a youtube channel. I would probably watch it ;-)
@isabellegf8526
@isabellegf8526 11 месяцев назад
He made such a good point in regards to race and how it’s viewed in different places and countries. Being in a foreign language, congregation, you get that a lot. For example, I remember looking at articles in English with multicolor faces and switching it to an African language, or a creole language and seeing a black face.
@hudsonchalmers6504
@hudsonchalmers6504 2 года назад
Morning JT and Jonas (from Capetown)
@hudsonchalmers6504
@hudsonchalmers6504 2 года назад
This is great that you have got together
@Tm___
@Tm___ 2 года назад
Yes! Watchtower, stop abusing people!
@jameswalberg3265
@jameswalberg3265 2 года назад
Great Interview. I watch Jonas's channel all the time but I learned so much more from this interview. Well-edited and expertly interviewed. Thank you. Looking forward to your John Dehlin interview
@gailpickle8808
@gailpickle8808 2 года назад
Such honesty and emotions that came out here. You both do important work to help us see the pain Watchtower dishes out. Sending heart felt appreciation for both of you ❤
@djiboutidjango3196
@djiboutidjango3196 2 года назад
Two of my favorite exjws together in a video. Wow! What a dream come true.
@opietwoep1247
@opietwoep1247 2 года назад
I can’t thank you enough for this. At 30:24 I broke down in tears. Im very bad at getting my point across and what was discussed about race here is 100% what I’ve been trying to say since the late 70s. White people are not one block people the divisions are many and this was described perfectly here. We need more JT and Goatlike people out here. I waited my whole life for this paradise to come. I found it with both of your channels.
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 2 года назад
I am so sorry for what Jonah went through, but at least his ex wife is still alive and they didn't actually kill her. I can't imagine the emotional trauma he went through when she picked an organization over her own husband. That is so sad, but proves the depth of control they have over their member's minds. We have to remember how brainwashed we once were too. There are many JW's that are so deeply and emotionally bound to the organization, even if Jesus himself appeared to them and told them to get out, they would not! For some waking up would be so traumatic they couldn't handle it. Waking up is like going through a personal Armageddon. For some, it's best and easier for them to stay indoctrinated than to face the truth. The cult truly does break up families.
@akbflo
@akbflo 2 года назад
But for real, I was raised as a JW, and the best thing they taught me was not to be racist, so I grew up in a super racist rural area in the US, and I really didn’t realize it until recently because the community I really lived in (the congregation) was very NOT racist. It’s probably the only true thing they taught me.
@gmeorghemarcu4100
@gmeorghemarcu4100 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@NashonOsborne
@NashonOsborne 2 года назад
😂great interview!! Jonas is awesome. Don’t be fooled by his goofing around he’s one sharp cookie 😉
@Hermwash1
@Hermwash1 2 года назад
You are absolutely correct he is one sharp cookie
@marlowebster487
@marlowebster487 2 года назад
Thanks
@TheNN
@TheNN 2 года назад
I just happened across this channel. As an ex-JW I admit my story, even compared to many of the ones I've watched would be one of true cruelty. Not by one person against me, or even a few doing to me, but an entire Congregation (albeit a bit unintentionally) punishing me over something that I had not even done, while I was grieving and feeling completely lost. They absolutely left me out to dry, essentially abuse by neglect, and thus eventually led to me leaving. I admit, makes me glad I found this, and I wish this sorta support existed back in the bygone days when I left. But tis better late than never as well. I'd say more but I'd rather not get into too many details right now.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
Hi :-) I am glad you got out of the cult
@TheNN
@TheNN 2 года назад
@@GoatlikePersonality Thank you. Feels good to have that aspect of my life long behind me. I don't miss it one iota.
@jesetfreesince9317
@jesetfreesince9317 2 года назад
I enjoy both of these channels and am happy to see that there is mutual respect and understanding on both sides
@stoobpendous
@stoobpendous 2 года назад
Automatic thumbs up for inviting Jonas. Love his humorous approach. Thank you, JT and Lady C for helping me break the bonds of indoctrination.
@hudsonchalmers6504
@hudsonchalmers6504 2 года назад
Good description JT, they keep scattering the pieces
@Caracaraorangeberry
@Caracaraorangeberry 2 года назад
Hi JONAS!!!!
@jaredcoleman9313
@jaredcoleman9313 2 года назад
He is so real and uncut. Love it!
@andrewxjw
@andrewxjw 2 года назад
Two of my favorite channels together! Jonas' story is very touching. I agree that some congregations are more liberal and better to be PIMO in. The bad reasoning and changing doctrines made me stop believing but it was the unkindness that drove me to apostasy, so I can relate.
@jwnomore2488
@jwnomore2488 2 года назад
Another great video with two of my favorites.
@barbararipani1331
@barbararipani1331 2 года назад
Mycket bra Goatlike. Respect, from Washington DC
@BantheBans
@BantheBans 2 года назад
Omg the American perspective and racism aspect is so true!
@jimmchemings6140
@jimmchemings6140 2 года назад
Enjoyed this !
@BJBFOREST
@BJBFOREST 2 года назад
The rank and file are like sheep as they never openly question the elders or the GB. I asked a JW who runs the zoom meetings "what is the procedure if one of the congregants disagrees with what is being said, can they challenge the speaker." Response. " No, why would they do that?" They are the Eloi and the GB are the Morlocks.
@elguapo221
@elguapo221 2 года назад
Ah I listened to this whole working and it really made me feel the pain 😟
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 2 года назад
Thanks , for the 💁 Insight into how some Europeans view🕵️ Racism ! Also how All us Ex- members , have certain aspects of our experiences🤦 with the WTS . . In Common ! 😉👍
@haan3549
@haan3549 2 года назад
Totally love this interview, thank you both so much
@stacyvibes1693
@stacyvibes1693 2 года назад
💛 goatlike 💛Lady Cee & JT
@cynidesappi2201
@cynidesappi2201 2 года назад
Wow its amazing how many people in the comment section in these videos mention they were depressed throughout their lives as a Jw... im still a jw and yes i was depressed all the time.. i actually kept thinking there was something wrong with me for feeling that way.. Im now just physically in but mentally out..
@SandraSanchez-ls8wg
@SandraSanchez-ls8wg 2 года назад
Thank you JT and Jonas for the information. Have a good day. 🙂
@mizfrenchtwist
@mizfrenchtwist 2 года назад
hey people , i really enjoyed this interview . you all and goat-like , are my favorites . you should bring on marcus vaugh . again , a great job thank you , for sharing.....
@theresefournier3269
@theresefournier3269 2 года назад
Exactly! Life is alive!
@kimmychong7029
@kimmychong7029 2 года назад
You have to have that moment of ahha! And it cannot be forced. This 2021 convention is absolutely ridiculous. The “apostate” talk is so wishy washy, I don’t see how anyone with intelligence don’t have a moment of, wtf??
@Therealseanbreed
@Therealseanbreed 2 года назад
Great Show!
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 2 года назад
Yes Zimbabweans and South Africans are neighbours but we can identify each other, so are the Namibians,Zambians, Angolans, Mozambicans and Malawians, really do not look alike, and this is just in the Southern African region of the continent.
@NewEarthWellness
@NewEarthWellness 2 года назад
I wish this man could watch Dr. Walter Veith explain geology. His explanation is better than the textbooks.
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 2 года назад
Goaltlike personality when we talks about having ugly people in the magazine, reminds me of a question I asked when I was still a JW. There was an elder who was obvously to anyone not looking good facially, that was not due to injury or sickness, he was just naturally like that. My question was that this elder was going to be made handsome. Brothers were very angry with me and the reason was that it did not matter what race of nationality depicted in the books and magazines of the Watchtower, everyone looked so handsome or beautiful, so I serously thought that what we view as ugliness was something that God will fix.😂😂😂😂
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 2 года назад
🤣🤣
@sweetcherryblossom9708
@sweetcherryblossom9708 2 года назад
I had that same thought. With similar responses 😄
@elisenieuwe4649
@elisenieuwe4649 2 года назад
30:00 yes! I remember when studying some young people in the congregation (14 years ago) even told me that the literature was from the perspective of the US and that with some things it didn't fit the way things went here. Especially with going to further your education it was completely off. Most people did get an education back then. It was deemed normal to at least have some kind of middle education. Maybe not anymore now with the huge push against education these past years.
@krissykatportal
@krissykatportal 2 года назад
Awesome! I’m excited for this !
@jazzminejackson9181
@jazzminejackson9181 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story Jonas.
@gorgeousapostate1915
@gorgeousapostate1915 2 года назад
It's good to hear your story and I'm sorry about what the WT did to your wife it's so sad, my mom has MS so I know how MS make you have bad days and good days.
@djiboutidjango3196
@djiboutidjango3196 2 года назад
I like what goatlike personality said about the Organization using the one drop rule to classify races. In Africa for example, we may all look the same to Americans, but we are not. Just by looking at our ourselves, we know those who are west Africans, South, East or North Africans. Of course the American organization doesn't know this. And like goatlike personality said, even in Nigeria alone there's a lot of discrimination (prejudice/tribalism) among the people that come from Nigeria alone. Over here we are divided by phenotypical features, region and language. And just looking at ourselves without even exchanging a word, we know the difference. Again, imagine Americans telling us in West Africa (Nigeria) where the economy is really bad, not to go to university. That is the height of living in a bubble.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 2 года назад
Excellent point No higher education needed since the end is Around The Corner Right?
@djiboutidjango3196
@djiboutidjango3196 2 года назад
@@ExJWCriticalThinker exactly. This was a great interview by the way. Thanks
@lindacarter9363
@lindacarter9363 Год назад
You guyz videos are getting better and better! Congrats from MBA!
@andrewxjw
@andrewxjw 2 года назад
He's absolutely right about the narrow, American perspective of Watchtower. And it's true that tribalism exists in most parts of Africa more than racism in the American sense.
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