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The woman accused of being the real life Martha from the hit Netflix show 'Baby Reindeer' has come forward and denied being a stalker.
The show is on track to become one of Netflix’s most popular shows of all time, with over 56 million views so far BUT for anyone that hasn't seen it let me explain....
The show is based on comedian Richard Gadd's real life experience with a stalker.
He develops a warped and complicated relationship with an older woman named Martha after meeting her at the bar where he works.
Although she initially appears to be friendly, her behaviour unravels in to something sinister
He accused her of constantly following him to comedy gigs, showing up at his house, attacking his girlfriend, sending him a staggering 41,000 emails, 350 hours of voicemail, 744 tweets, 46 Facebook messages and 106 pages of letters.
The show sent the internet into meltdown with cyber sleuths trying to track her down - But, the real life "Martha", who is actually law graduate Fiona Harvey, has come forward and denied the claims Gadd made against her in the show.
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@Lucy-ie8qw
@Lucy-ie8qw 13 дней назад
If it's not her....she would not be bothered. I watched the entire interview. It's perfectly HER!
@Tadzio5050
@Tadzio5050 12 дней назад
What it does for me is confirm what a brilliant writer Gadd is. You could see shades of "Martha" in the interview. I thought it was interesting how she almost turned on Morgan. I wonder if she'll stalk him.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
She doesn't mean it's not her literally, she is saying Richard made up things like her going to prison and being convicted of stalking him etc and so far there is 0 proof of that.
@1949Matilda
@1949Matilda 11 дней назад
She came across as more Martha than Martha, actually. 😮
@PandaPowerable
@PandaPowerable 13 дней назад
She's not sick of the attention...she wants to cash in on the gig! 🤣
@pamelabowden3017
@pamelabowden3017 13 дней назад
She actually made a point about it being her who penned the title. I wonder if she will go down this route to get her share of the royalties.
@smidgelette
@smidgelette 11 дней назад
She’s obsessed with him making money from it. This is her primary motivation
@cosmic4516
@cosmic4516 10 дней назад
I was in prison with her
@nickymon1998
@nickymon1998 13 дней назад
who said fiona is marthar lol. neither richard nor netflix did. the only one who confirm who martha is fiona herself. richard can easily say it's not her. :3
@jemmajames6719
@jemmajames6719 13 дней назад
She’s just admitted a lot of the incidents in the tv happened but not by her by Gadd,for example the curtains scene.
@klairebrown6386
@klairebrown6386 12 дней назад
I said this on the actual interview on his channel.... she outted herself 😂 (Piers youtube channel)
@bindib352
@bindib352 13 дней назад
So true about the double standards. On top of everything else she allegedly sexually assaulted Gadd, if that was a male stalker they would not be getting airtime. The fact nobody is discussing his male groomer/rapist supports that. The man is apparently known in the industry. Shouldn’t he be named and questioned by police??
@tamarazwinak1447
@tamarazwinak1447 13 дней назад
This is an interesting take and speaks to her claim he is a misogynist.
@fashunpuss6279
@fashunpuss6279 12 дней назад
His identity is protected.
@beyourselfbrave4115
@beyourselfbrave4115 12 дней назад
If he is known in industry as a rapist, its clear all he needed was money from Netflix and perhaps fame as he is not a great comedian/ showman whatever his title is ! 😂😊😅
@karenm8239
@karenm8239 11 дней назад
Nonsense. I was stalked and the police did zero. I think you're right to ask about the male who assaulted him, she didn't touch him yet it's spun to be her. He's apparently very well known.
@bindib352
@bindib352 11 дней назад
@@karenm8239 the police need to do better. But I still don’t think an alleged male stalker who committed sexual assault and violent crimes would get treated in the same way by the public and media as a female who did the same. Having said that we don’t know what really happened and what the truth is.
@samanthalake5011
@samanthalake5011 13 дней назад
She, in fact, is a bit odd. 😅
@phillipaclemons7261
@phillipaclemons7261 11 дней назад
Yes, obviously she has some personality issues Was she considered dangerous, or more like a pest?
@katjaxxx7353
@katjaxxx7353 11 дней назад
Agree. She seems not be upset at all
@StormyH871
@StormyH871 13 дней назад
Well she did admit she had 4 phones and 6 email accounts i have never known anyone' of my friends that had that many
@tamarazwinak1447
@tamarazwinak1447 13 дней назад
I have over the course of my life. This is common for professionals. Separate personal email from public email is reasonable.
@klairebrown6386
@klairebrown6386 12 дней назад
I know people t have loads of emails address but thats because they want a new deliveroo/ uber eats account 😂😂😂
@intello8953
@intello8953 12 дней назад
I literally have 8 email accounts 😂. Granted few of those are over a decade old and I don’t use it anymore but they are active and I can still log in them 😁
@janineregan1677
@janineregan1677 13 дней назад
She contradicted herself so many times during her interview it’s hard to believe anything she says. This entire thing has become a circus when it could have been an important lesson in awareness for what men, often in silence, have to rndure
@jutopri
@jutopri 11 дней назад
Can someone please check if she did go to jail or not?!
@disneythequeen
@disneythequeen 13 дней назад
The series is a docu-drama, based on his real life. This show is actually very empathetic towards the character Martha and, of course, being a TV show, it is a work of self-fictionalization, that's why certain details are changed. This woman is clearly unwell. Of course everything that she's denying can be checked, but she's not in a good state.
@leelujan9816
@leelujan9816 11 дней назад
On what planet is show sympathetic to the character of Martha?!
@staceysoden3047
@staceysoden3047 2 дня назад
@@leelujan9816even when it showed he went to police he said he doesn’t think she should be in trouble for it per de but that she obviously needed help Many areas of this series showed sympathy
@cylok2871
@cylok2871 13 дней назад
I believe she did stalk him but certain events have been massively exaggerated like canal scene and also the prison sentence. The thing is I think the equally big story is the Darrian (a high powered figure in the comedy world who preys and and grooms young comedians) rape which no one seems to be talking about.
@juliegray8731
@juliegray8731 13 дней назад
I said this all along and I think this male whoever he is is the trigger for Gadd and his embellishments of events with Martha. I do believe she stalked him but not to the extent as portrayed. As the lady on the panel stated its somewhere in between
@fashunpuss6279
@fashunpuss6279 12 дней назад
And Netflix shouldn’t call it “a true story” it opens them up to being sued and losing.
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 11 дней назад
They did say the part where she was in court and got sentenced was not true, but like already said if they say it was a true story then they should't add things like that to dramatise it.
@thomazpank
@thomazpank 13 дней назад
I went to school with Richard, back then I was a spotty rather unpopular young man who was going through a lot of gender identity issues behind the scene and had also been a victim of an SA by an older man, I found Richard to be quite a mean person who was more than willing to engage in use of homophobic slurs against me and my few friends and was more than happy to be the bully to fit in with his group and not seem gay. Our guidance teachers were Ms Hutchinson and Mr Tarvet we attended Madras College. I am glad to see that Richard has lost some of his less savoury behaviours and improved with age. I wish him well. Perhaps he has now a better understanding of the power of other peoples behaviour to cause hurt and as a victim of other people maybe he can now understand that I forgive his actions but will never forget them and the impact they had on my younger self.
@NelsonVanDweller
@NelsonVanDweller 13 дней назад
We all grow up and change through life experience. Life humbles everyone
@thomazpank
@thomazpank 13 дней назад
@@NelsonVanDweller hope so, a humble apology would be nice and useful for my trauma.
@NelsonVanDweller
@NelsonVanDweller 13 дней назад
@@thomazpank school is a tough time for many. Everyone is desperate to fit in and act out of fear . As hard as it may be I wouldn't take it personally. Try Ur best to move on.
@thepracticalmystic8525
@thepracticalmystic8525 13 дней назад
Not much has changed so....don't like him
@JB-wy8fc
@JB-wy8fc 12 дней назад
@@NelsonVanDweller your trauma 🤣
@Fleettrade
@Fleettrade 13 дней назад
She doesn't have a boyfriend - if so, it's in her fantasy head.
@lokilokison4217
@lokilokison4217 8 дней назад
Ooor, bear with me, she HAS a boyfriend, but he doesn't know about it (yet)
@Brij-vt8nx
@Brij-vt8nx 10 дней назад
What a dangerous thing to do...giving a convicted stalker a platform
@miamiredbird
@miamiredbird 13 дней назад
She didn't know where he lived, yet she sent him letters, at least 1...
@mrgainz7252
@mrgainz7252 11 дней назад
The tweet said a letter was sent to the theatre
@deepoole820
@deepoole820 11 дней назад
You are so right about the double standards. Thank you for saying that.
@samuelpoulston2964
@samuelpoulston2964 9 дней назад
Yes we should be sceptical of all such claims by alleged victims.
@seattleryan5721
@seattleryan5721 13 дней назад
Netflix should come at Fiona with an offer to make a rebuttal series. From the Eyes of Martha a baby reindeer saga.
@ChristeneLedoux
@ChristeneLedoux 13 дней назад
No.
@seattleryan5721
@seattleryan5721 13 дней назад
@@ChristeneLedoux Ok. It will be called.... Curtains Closed.
@kerrygold6494
@kerrygold6494 13 дней назад
​@@seattleryan5721😅
@bartbotsimpson
@bartbotsimpson 11 дней назад
Yes.
@Tadzio5050
@Tadzio5050 12 дней назад
This is not almost a documentary it is a work of fiction based on real events, saying it's a true story does make it a doc. This person was interviewed before this and she is now stalking and threatening that reporter. Gadd wrote and has performed this story hundreds of times, he even won an Olivier for it on stage. One of the things that come up in the story is her lies. She lied in the interview, saying she didn't know then she didn't email him, but she did know him, and email him, she even confessed that she called him Baby Reindeer. She needs help and I hope she gets it. The idea that a fictional account of real events that changed the name of the person portrayed could be the subject of a lawsuit is absurd.
@tmoleary7179
@tmoleary7179 11 дней назад
I think the rape is the key to his story..that horrific event and relationship was the core issue, his passivity and lack of treatment or going to the police made him vulnerable to a stalker, she was disturbed but he was troubled so deeply and the show makes her out to be the bad one..the rapist is and Gadd does not stand up to him .
@KatiaBeeden
@KatiaBeeden 13 дней назад
She's LOVING the attention.
@Skaterbun
@Skaterbun 13 дней назад
Netflix are loving the attention $$$
@clareshaughnessy2745
@clareshaughnessy2745 11 дней назад
The woman has absolutely no control over the attention. And, judging by the comments under every video about this, she’s in for an absolutely awful time. And if she wasn’t vulnerable before she certainly is now
@josephhilditch8792
@josephhilditch8792 12 дней назад
He stated explicitly that she never went to prison that was added in, but the stalking was true
@romanodymek5829
@romanodymek5829 13 дней назад
She is a bloody liar!
@patriciafitzgerald7812
@patriciafitzgerald7812 13 дней назад
It was very uncomfortable to watch.but fascinating.
@lannakaufman7045
@lannakaufman7045 13 дней назад
We are inside "black mirror", crazy story
@arezookhd
@arezookhd 12 дней назад
Why he didn't block her ? They were and are both sick in their head.
@katjaxxx7353
@katjaxxx7353 11 дней назад
When he blocked her that person would open a new account
@AliceJohnson-ce2iz
@AliceJohnson-ce2iz 12 дней назад
Lying she's horrible
@bartbotsimpson
@bartbotsimpson 11 дней назад
Well she hasn't been to jail so that was a lie by gadd 🤥
@WaniZame
@WaniZame 13 дней назад
Esther is such a queen.
@harryhill8543
@harryhill8543 13 дней назад
I dont think in general people are that fussed over whether some of the details were 100% or not, in general it seemed to have nailed the character and behaviour of the individual. Which if anything have been reinforced by the appearances. The reason its such a big hit is that in the main people are fed up of unhinged people ruining others lives through their delusions and then denying what they did even when theres a mountain of evidence to show that they did.
@truthbearer3891
@truthbearer3891 13 дней назад
what evidence
@harryhill8543
@harryhill8543 13 дней назад
@@truthbearer3891 🤣
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 12 дней назад
@@truthbearer3891 Well Laura Walker came forward as she allegedly harassed her and her then M.P. husband Jimmy Wray. Allegedly in 1997, So there's a pattern to her behaviour.
@fashunpuss6279
@fashunpuss6279 12 дней назад
It claims to be “a true story” that may be their downfall in court.
@harryhill8543
@harryhill8543 12 дней назад
@@fashunpuss6279 it also says some parts of the story have been made up, thats the small print.
@ChristeneLedoux
@ChristeneLedoux 13 дней назад
“Based on a true story” as they claim in the show, leaves room for artistic interpretation. Sorry, but Netflix owes her nothing.
@marks4708
@marks4708 13 дней назад
It actually says, “This is a true story.” That’s where the issue is.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
But it doesn't say that does it? So whats your opinion on it now?
@TT_09
@TT_09 12 дней назад
I watched the credits up through the end, it clearly states that in accordance with the law, elements have been changed, dramatized, and added. There’s no story here.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
@@TT_09 So you can start with 'This is a true story' then literally make up anything you want and that's fine?
@TT_09
@TT_09 12 дней назад
@@trillshox2281 As the end credits Legally say: “This program is based on real events: However certain characters, names, incidents, locations and dialogue have been fictionalized for dramatic purposes.” So, yes in a word, it’s fine. This is not a documentary.
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 13 дней назад
Her name was Muir Havery and she dropped the Muir, someone said they looked it up and she had been in trouble, I may be wrong just going off what I read. She also said she hadn't watched the series, well if that was me I would defo watch it before I went public and denied anything, she said she was just told about it. I didn't believe her one bit.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
There is 0 proof of her being convicted of anything or going to prison. Im not saying she is 100% honest about everything but she has no reason to lie about something that can easily be proved and so far hasn't been.
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 12 дней назад
@@trillshox2281 Yes you are right she has no reason to lie over something that can easily be proven, like the emails and text etc.
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 11 дней назад
@@trillshox2281 Google Fiona Muir
@Chick3nSalad
@Chick3nSalad 13 дней назад
She contradicted herself A LOT in that interview.... That man on the pannel is spot on. If this was the story of a male stalking a woman, there would not be so many people trying to find holes in the victim's story.
@Missjunebugfreak
@Missjunebugfreak 11 дней назад
Yep. I agree with him completely. There is a double standard and it should be highlighted.
@georginafronda496
@georginafronda496 9 дней назад
Totally agree. Hypocrisy is staggering when a man is the victim. Am team RC.. Fiona outed herself.. also please tread carefully when she says press and online people found and were harrassing her.., she’s most likely made it up… just like her other contradictory stories
@thepracticalmystic8525
@thepracticalmystic8525 13 дней назад
Its like a messy divorce Back and forth Like a bad tennis match 😂😂😂
@jemmajames6719
@jemmajames6719 13 дней назад
I don’t believe her, her mannerisms, the way she speaks, to me it’s shifty and screams lies, whether it was as bad as the programme made out I couldn’t say but I certainly think most of its true.
@samuelpoulston2964
@samuelpoulston2964 9 дней назад
i reckon she stalked him but not to the extent as claimed. Also we don't know how much Gadd did encourage her or if he got a kick out of her obsession over him, as some people do.
@janethart123
@janethart123 13 дней назад
Remember, she changed her name
@bartbotsimpson
@bartbotsimpson 11 дней назад
Lol 😂😂😂 so what? She still hasn't been to jail. This is going to rebound badly on Gadd
@norrisessel5496
@norrisessel5496 7 дней назад
Agreed the fact that the rapist identity is protected is crazy.
@beyourselfbrave4115
@beyourselfbrave4115 12 дней назад
Imagine if one of your ex's decides to make money out of past relationship, how would you feel being exposed and threatened ???
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
If I stalked them, I'm fair game.
@Roxisound
@Roxisound 13 дней назад
They don’t acknowledge that Richard Gadd talks about how he didn’t go to the police partially because of the injustice of her seeing consequences and his r@&ist not seeing consequences because of power. I agree with the consultant that the onus is on Netflix but I think it’s important that artists can tell true stories.
@Tadzio5050
@Tadzio5050 12 дней назад
What sort of onus? We have no way of knowing what due diligence they did. Gadd still has the voicemails etc.. What is a production company supposed to do? Every story they produce if there are living folks could come forward with a claim, "It didn't happen that way!" If he named her I'd more fully agree with her. This is his story and as you say he has the right to tell it.
@thesunshinehome
@thesunshinehome 12 дней назад
*Everyone is missing the point - we should be focussing on the TV guy*
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
They're both crimes.
@user-bo2se8ml4l
@user-bo2se8ml4l 10 дней назад
do you really think Netflix DIDNT do their true diligence
@Carmah3
@Carmah3 10 дней назад
Stalkers don't admit to being stalkers.
@americanpancakelive
@americanpancakelive 13 дней назад
Remember the movie FARGO. It began like this "This is a true story", nuff said.
@whatiwasgoingtosay
@whatiwasgoingtosay 13 дней назад
It also doesn’t say it’s a documentary. It’s clearly a dramatization. The story can be true without each and every detail being factual. They didn’t use real names for a reason. People only found Fiona Harvey because all of her crimes were done out in the open on Facebook and Twitter. The only person I’m mad at in this situation is Piers Morgan for exploiting this woman and giving her a platform to further victimize Richard Gadd.
@samuelpoulston2964
@samuelpoulston2964 9 дней назад
Crimes? There's no record of a conviction. If Gadd is allowed to make a story based on her and make millions, she has every right, as she asked to do, to defend herself and give her side of the story. Gadd did encourage her at the time, he admits to that, so he probably got off on someone being obsessed with him. He may have even thought it would make a great comedy show.
@ydlog1981
@ydlog1981 10 дней назад
Would you feel sorry for a male stalker?? Well done to old mate calling this out🙌
@bluey_mum
@bluey_mum 11 дней назад
Gadd, though, says he felt bad for his real-life stalker and didn't want her jailed. He told The Times: "I felt a great deal of empathy for the real-life Martha. "I didn’t want to throw someone who was that level of mentally unwell in prison." Instead, Gadd admits errors with his own behaviour
@danielpercival6368
@danielpercival6368 5 дней назад
At the end of the day, Gadd is a writer and she was providing material while he was providing her with attention. Agree that the rapist should be revealed
@jeanneelise
@jeanneelise 13 дней назад
So she is hotting every media outlet that will have her on..
@MC-vr3yh
@MC-vr3yh 11 дней назад
That guy Richard is a bit unstable and wanted to cash in on making stories to an extreme. Maybe she was a bit ‘ pushy’ ( most women who fell for a man are like that) in that interaction but not to that extent.
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 13 дней назад
noone has a right to stalk anyone ever its good he made the programme as it gives men a chance for it to be seen that they can also be stalked and drugged raped and if it helps more men by him doing this thats great as men are not listened to enough when it comes to this or men being abused by women which happens its not right for men or women to do this to anyone ever
@olgapavlova585
@olgapavlova585 13 дней назад
Except they're saying much of what he said about the woman isn't true, as she has never been in prison for stalking, and has been stalked herself because of the programme that he has made money from.
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 13 дней назад
he went to the police but they didnt help him @@olgapavlova585
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 13 дней назад
plenty people make money out of whats happened to them or others playing their part it does not mean it didnt happen look at the ones that keep writing books about their lives whats the difference @@olgapavlova585
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 13 дней назад
plus he didnt name her did he it was ones going after her that did this which is not ok either@@olgapavlova585
@vanzyli
@vanzyli 12 дней назад
Fiona Harvey has not been accused of anything. Get it right.
@denisewest3858
@denisewest3858 11 дней назад
The huge red flags we are not talking about is the fact that Richard Gadd told this story about a troubled middle-aged woman and NOT about him being groomed and r#ped by older rich successful man. But yet his whole show was focused on this lady. People will do anything for fame and if hes not telling the truth about this woman, its will be absolutely disgusting that someone is willing to use a troubled person just for fame. Something definitely isn't right here. 🤔👀
@Sarahlee358
@Sarahlee358 10 дней назад
So if she is troubled, that’s a pass to stalk and harass him? Do you know the mental toll it can take on someone?
@denisewest3858
@denisewest3858 10 дней назад
@Sarahlee358 Of course not. Obviously. But it's the lesser of two evils. Meanwhile, the r@pist get off Scott free. And nobody thinks this strange that he didn't focus more on that.🤔
@samuelpoulston2964
@samuelpoulston2964 9 дней назад
@@Sarahlee358 Also we don't know how much Gadd encouraged it. We also don't know if he got off on it, as some people do like to get someone hooked / fall for them, only to turn the tables to make them out to be a stalker.
@kristina4395
@kristina4395 6 дней назад
Great panel. Thank you to the male anchor to acknowledge that there was an sexual assult that noone is talking about and that guys identity is being hidden and protected ... he did it who know how long and is still doing it probably.
@HalfB
@HalfB 5 дней назад
Past changing the names to protect the identities…. I don’t believe anyone has any responsibility to change a persons story? I live in the States and just find this a very disturbing precedent against free speech. I remember when changing the names and a few identifying details and locations was enough. I believe we all have a right to share our personal stories. We need to share more stories like this especially from our male family and friends who need the public’s support to speak out and she’s light , love and support to abuse victims and help them know it’s ok to share and we love you and are with you! I wish that this story not be commandeered by the abuser and we keep the focus on the male victims. She didn’t have to go public. All this negotiations-court, could be done in private behind closed doors and with no cameras….. at this point I’m sad she’s the focus instead of the abuse of men and the shame that keeps them from standing up for themselves and getting justice, healing, support and the love they deserve. My 2 pence ✌️
@djbarbergreen3388
@djbarbergreen3388 12 дней назад
If it was a man there would be no allowance she was violent ..wake up
@coralieelliott2076
@coralieelliott2076 7 дней назад
where is the proof she was violent?
@mimig6511
@mimig6511 13 дней назад
Is that really MArtha though? She has denied it
@CaroleEvans93436
@CaroleEvans93436 13 дней назад
She harassed Scottish member's of parliament many years before allegedly stalking Gadd. It was 25 years ago: There was speculation that the perpetrator was Harvey, only her name is reported as “Fiona Muir.” It states, “Solicitor Mrs Wray has become the target of Fiona Muir, whom she sacked from a trainee post at her firm, McPhail Lawrence Partnership, in 1997. “Since she was dismissed, she has contacted Mrs Wray’s office with a series of threatening phone calls and even turned up at her house on one occasion.”The article goes on to say that Wray was so concerned, she’d made “an official complaint to the police” and “issued her staff with panic alarms.” Wray herself has since spoken out about the Netflix series, describing her experiences with Harvey as similar to those of Baby Reindeer creator Richard Gadd’s. But the confirmation of her surname only appears to corroborate older reports about the case.
@Rise-and-Shine333
@Rise-and-Shine333 13 дней назад
So why is she coming forward. Makes no sense at all.
@Junitunes
@Junitunes 13 дней назад
She denies the story is true. But even with things she has said it’s clearly her. Admitting she had a baby reindeer toy, she admits to the article written about her about stalking the other woman. There are lots of tweets sent to Richard from her account. However she clearly lies in that interview. Saying she didn’t know where he lived but sent him a letter. Also she has showed the same behaviour to a reporter. Constantly calling the reporter, threatening him, sending a lot of rapid texts. Also I have no idea if it was her but I was in the comment section of the interview and someone was rapid replying to people in defence of her. There were typos, the user name was what gadd describes, a lot of random letters and numbers. I said are you Martha? She said no but I wish I was. Which I think is weird to say as who would want to be someone accused of this? I really think it was her. This account was calling him a homo, a liar. Saying free Fiona! Free Fiona! She’s innocent! And saying it on almost every comment and replying to anyone to replied to her.
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
​@@JunitunesFirst she said she didn't have the toy. Her stories go back and forth.
@Jules-A
@Jules-A 13 дней назад
It’s very difficult, cause they both seem a little crazy. ☺️
@rubyromaine3911
@rubyromaine3911 13 дней назад
Netflix has gotten away with worse..
@user-vs4rp1qc6q
@user-vs4rp1qc6q 13 дней назад
Why is the lovely Ester on this show with the bike ponce?
@clareshaughnessy2745
@clareshaughnessy2745 11 дней назад
This isn’t a story about a stalker and victim. We just saw it from Gadd’s point of view - which is a very privileged position to be in. It was really the story of two screwed up people and their relationship. Had anyone written a series from her POV we may be seeing things in a completely different way
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
The relationship was in her head. As far as privileged, I wouldn't feel that way if I was stalked & r___d.
@clareshaughnessy2745
@clareshaughnessy2745 11 дней назад
@@tereseday4060 as i say, you’ve only heard it, on tv, with all the money and production values of Netflix. Even then you can hear that things weren’t exactly a one way street. Do you think you’ve got an even handed story?
@mihirapte
@mihirapte 12 дней назад
Why has she never consulted a lawyer before gaffing on TV interviews is a mystery for another show.
@ericab845
@ericab845 9 дней назад
the very sad thing here is she could get medication and get help and really improve her life. she's not a bad looking woman, intelligent, and very verbal, if she could get medication to control her mental health issues she might be able to get off benefits, get a job, and have at least a little of a life with the time left to her.
@samcad-ho3ze
@samcad-ho3ze 9 дней назад
Esther always nails it
@wayneuk62
@wayneuk62 12 дней назад
I feel like we need to find the trans lady and ask her if things really happened as he says in the series
@andrewbrilliant7578
@andrewbrilliant7578 13 дней назад
Piers Morgan must’ve offered some after-care regarding mental health surely
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 13 дней назад
she might stalk him now lol.
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
She's sent him 50 emails since the show.
@johnsymons8246
@johnsymons8246 9 дней назад
From iPhone
@staceysoden3047
@staceysoden3047 2 дня назад
. Now 10 days since they aired this I bet they are wondering how they could of been so wrong lol 🤣
@tamarazwinak1447
@tamarazwinak1447 13 дней назад
They should both take a lie detector test. And the public wants to see the hard evidence not simply accusations from both sides. The public has lost all perspective. Its not the first time the public may have been duped by a person.
@Junitunes
@Junitunes 13 дней назад
I do feel they should of said “based on a true story “ if there are little details that aren’t right
@Annsunshine30
@Annsunshine30 13 дней назад
More details will probably come out later..
@dawnatkinson7704
@dawnatkinson7704 13 дней назад
They stated early on that there had been several differences deliberately made so that people would not recognize her. She's a very sick woman.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
Huge details more like it's not little to show she plead guilty and went to prison if it never happened.
@bartbotsimpson
@bartbotsimpson 11 дней назад
Little details like she was never sent to jail 😂😂😂
@bartbotsimpson
@bartbotsimpson 11 дней назад
​@@trillshox2281never even been in a courtroom for it.
@lauraragazzi464
@lauraragazzi464 10 дней назад
Fiona makes me feel sorry for her. She is clearly in great difficulty, with serious psychiatric disorders, and profoundly alone. I think the best thing is to respect her privacy, this is the reality, not Netflix.
@SlotstheMetaphysicalwa
@SlotstheMetaphysicalwa 13 дней назад
I notice how they aint interviewing him 😅😅😅😅
@Lisarojenko73318
@Lisarojenko73318 День назад
Do you know Pierce Morgan really knows how to stir up things that I must say. It says this is a true story, but he did say on an interview. I can’t remember the way he worded it, but when I hear the word documentary, I expect it to be true when I hear this is a true story. I’ve heard that on so many different shows so why didn’t the why didn’t anybody sue Netflix or Megan and Harry lying the whole time?
@karesage2889
@karesage2889 10 дней назад
41000 emails over 3 years is approximately 37 a day, very doable if you are a stalker
@HarveyRoss-kv8ou
@HarveyRoss-kv8ou 7 дней назад
After 2min into the interview with Piers I just thought its Susan Boyle all over again, slightly disturbed lady now to be publicly humiliated by the masses, sad really!
@user-bo2se8ml4l
@user-bo2se8ml4l 10 дней назад
at the end on the credits it states some parts fictionalised!!!!!
@sweetandsavoury
@sweetandsavoury 11 дней назад
As she is going to admit to being a crazed stalker sending 41,000 emails
@masquarra
@masquarra 13 дней назад
I do not think it was her. She is enjoying the cash and attention. Media will go after Netflix once more. (Where have we seen this before)
@beverleychristie5554
@beverleychristie5554 12 дней назад
I don’t believe. It. Who in their right mine plays them selfs In a movie. Where they get. Stalk and tormented no one wants to o through hell like that again. His laughing all the way to the bank.
@unorodriguez
@unorodriguez 10 дней назад
Netflix never said their show is depicting this Fiona Harvey. Yes Netflix said it is a true story and has a character named Martha who was stalking Donney. But the show never said it is this woman, but in reality, Fiona herself is claiming that she is that character of Martha. So she herself has to prove that she is that Martha in all accounts. She went to have an interview believing the show intentionally put her to harm. Richard won’t write something that didn’t happened to him. Yes, he uas as well creative freedom as that show is a drama, a tv series! And people should understand that IT IS NOT A DOCUMENTARY. It is ridiculous that people are blaming Richard Gadd and Netflix wherein even the character of Richard Gadd, the name was even changed to Donney. Obviously, this Fiona is milking every opportunity now knowing the show is a hit and now she is playing the victim card, going to an interview, saying she is that character Martha yet denying so many things. So what is the truth about you Fiona? Hmmmm
@randomhumanoidblob4506
@randomhumanoidblob4506 13 дней назад
Haven't seen the NF thing, but isn't it his story from his perception? Therefore his truth? Say he's getting worked up and stressed out, looks up info he gets wrong so he genuinely thinks she's a convicted stalker and reacts accordingly. Nobody has lied, it's a genuine mistake that then engenders a negative reaction and round and round the drain we go.
@dean6372
@dean6372 13 дней назад
Watch the interview with her. It confirms all you need to know.
@randomhumanoidblob4506
@randomhumanoidblob4506 13 дней назад
@dean6372 Yeah, I just have. She's a "right fighter" for sure, all that matters to her is that she be right. Even irrelevant minutiae, she contests everything. Exhausting. The "boyfriend" is either non-existent or deaf. I'm not saying it in defence of her, just that our own perception is a huuuuge part of reality and when we're frightened the monster seems bigger. We become hyper-sensitised and Netflix have a while load of wiggle room because they're telling a true story from one pov. We all know there are three sides to all stories; his, hers and the truth.
@Skaterbun
@Skaterbun 13 дней назад
@@randomhumanoidblob4506 yes agree. how do we know she’s not part of the Netflix plan, they may be paying her to come out and say these things, the whole thing could be made up for all we know. If Netflix and this guy are claiming something true, then it must of been already properly investigated, there are facts,there is evidence available and witnesses, all we have is his version of events and a show that’s now currently making loads of £££ based on internet spin.
@trillshox2281
@trillshox2281 12 дней назад
It's not "his truth" to show she plead guilty and went to prison for stalking him and his parents if it never happened.
@randomhumanoidblob4506
@randomhumanoidblob4506 12 дней назад
@trillshox2281 But we all make perceptual mistakes all the time. One person can be "in love" (entirely perception) whilst the object of that love might not reciprocate. Or look at every war in history; both sides are equally convinced they are right. He didn't out her and I'm just saying this is NF 's wiggle room. It's HIS story from his pov and doesn't claim to be anything other. Whether it's right or not could be argued as entirely perception, including the fact he could be operating on misinformation. And when we're scared we see monsters under the bed. Truth is a very nebulous concept where feelings are involved. Our "truth" is absolute, but only to us. All he has to say is "its not her."
@Datfpv
@Datfpv 12 дней назад
I thought it was more a reflection on his involvement and the fact he wasn't blame free for getting himself in that situation ...
@mariamalfa7026
@mariamalfa7026 11 дней назад
If the gender roles were reversed This wouldn’t be the case This is pure sexism
@angelkisses5933
@angelkisses5933 3 дня назад
She changed her name though She said her name was Fiona Muir- Harvey an she could have gone by Fiona Muir....so she could very well have been to prison its just not under the name of Fiona Harvey
@ericab845
@ericab845 9 дней назад
I hope she doesn't get a dime. it would do nothing for her delusions. Netflix made have used the court case to wrap things up. 99% of it I'm sure is true
@talltrees358
@talltrees358 11 дней назад
They got the way she talks from the voicemails.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 12 дней назад
Very sad for both man n woman.good film.she in film needs real help.
@smidgelette
@smidgelette 11 дней назад
She’s sick of the attention hahaha you must be joking. She’s loving it and encouraging it by engaging with people on social media and doing interviews.
@samcad-ho3ze
@samcad-ho3ze 9 дней назад
Darrien is Gary Reich allegedly
@face-in-the-crowd
@face-in-the-crowd 12 дней назад
People keep saying that it's easy to find out but has anyone looked? Seriously
@elisabethlourens6626
@elisabethlourens6626 11 дней назад
HER DENIAL IS SIMPLY A FURTHER ATTEMPT AT BULLYING. SHE CAME FORWARD. NO ONE FORCED HER TO. SHE MADE HERSELF PUBLIC. AND NOW SHE IS ANGRY ABOUT TRUTH BEING TOLD AND THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS BEATING HER AT HER OWN GAME.
@elisabethlourens6626
@elisabethlourens6626 11 дней назад
She mader herself found. Because she is a bully. And that is what she is doing now
@stesco71
@stesco71 10 дней назад
You just know she is lying when she said ' he asked me to sleep with him' ! I mean, really !!!
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 12 дней назад
I think if anyone has a case to sue for libel , it's the people who in the comedy production world who's names are being put out there being accused of being the alleged rapist. As Jeremy knows himself, being libelled by ignorant online "detectives" is no laughing matter.
@thebib1054
@thebib1054 10 дней назад
Nah she hates him, she’s in the if I can’t have you phase. They’re both fucked tbh.
@rookspakiri7840
@rookspakiri7840 11 дней назад
I watch the show. Interesting.
@InterestedCitizen
@InterestedCitizen 11 дней назад
I agree, I think Netflix is the Big Bad Wolf here. After they make a gazillion dollars from this movie, what do they care if they get sued by the real Martha since they will still profit massively? Awful, awful mess this! I will NOT watch this depressing movie.
@lessymari7028
@lessymari7028 10 дней назад
Did socmed sleuths find her or she just came out and revealed herself.
@seattleryan5721
@seattleryan5721 13 дней назад
We need Baby Reindeer Chapter 2: Martha's Perspective
@thepracticalmystic8525
@thepracticalmystic8525 13 дней назад
💯
@seattleryan5721
@seattleryan5721 13 дней назад
@@thepracticalmystic8525 Tranny Reindeer : Brand New Curtains ( told by Terry )
@ozymandias7372
@ozymandias7372 12 дней назад
I think we already got it in the Pier’s interview. And considering the number of contradictions she already made in that interview it’s obvious that she will be an unreliable narrator
@traceymitchell6619
@traceymitchell6619 11 дней назад
A lot of the interview, for a good 10 minutes, he kept coming back to this.” In interviews about the series, Gadd said while Baby Reindeer was fictionalized for the Netflix series, he noted that, “Emotionally, it's all 100% true. What was fictionalized and what does emotionally 100% true even mean? Why are the media going for this woman instead of attempting to verify Gadd's story? I cannot find a single person that has come out and said they witnessed anything. That pub has been frequented by many, people are bound to know Fiona, saw her behaviour? She went to that pub, must have been quite a character, how do we know he didn't just use her for a story, using her previous history and made it about himself? Everything he says may be true but what if it isn't? The truth is nobody knows, someone needs for find out
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 11 дней назад
I'm sure Netflix Attorneys check things. They're not ignorant.
@Katwashere71
@Katwashere71 11 дней назад
Often when people are sentenced they are not named. Especially if they are mentally unwell..... So she may have been!!
@patrickkelly3617
@patrickkelly3617 12 дней назад
So we're questioning if it 'Martha' but we whole hearted that there's a rapist? Most of it is made up with some stuff based on real characters...
@jimjames4348
@jimjames4348 8 дней назад
Her nephew and an ex prisoner have also outed her and confirmed she went to prison, also the rapist is widely believed to be Gary Reich.
@coralieelliott2076
@coralieelliott2076 7 дней назад
the nephew has been outed he made up the story for a laugh
@jimjames4348
@jimjames4348 7 дней назад
​@@coralieelliott2076 Oh, the crim got caught in a lie too! What is going on? I definitely believe she did, but how's she hiding it? Maybe they sent her to secure hospital and that's confidential? Who knows? I want her to stalk Piers morgan for this money, I actually want to see more of her! I'm turning into baby reindeer! 🤣🤣
@coralieelliott2076
@coralieelliott2076 7 дней назад
@@jimjames4348 There use to be a saying don't believe anything you hear and only 1/2 of what you see--now I believe we also can't believe anything we see as well
@jimjames4348
@jimjames4348 7 дней назад
@@coralieelliott2076 WHAT??? You're defo her aren't you? 🤣🤣🤣
@Lisarojenko73318
@Lisarojenko73318 День назад
Who cares if it says this is a true story to die for said this is a true story about Pamela Smart and Nicole Kidman started in. It started it how many things say this is a true story. This is based on a true story I mean, obviously when you write, he did try to come out from prospectivesand now they’re saying, Netflix didn’t do a good enough job. That’s absolutely BS.
@lyndap7312
@lyndap7312 13 дней назад
... Curious as to what we're being distracted from 🤔
@FallenAngelBrass
@FallenAngelBrass 13 дней назад
OK, Russell Brand, LOL.
@Buzz0Killington
@Buzz0Killington 13 дней назад
LOL what a weird/weak argument. There’s ALWAYS stuff happening at the same time. If anything, people are prone to look for distractions when the world is going through chaotic times.
@erictaylor2831
@erictaylor2831 13 дней назад
It doesn,t affect us.Nice distraction from real problems.
@JB-wy8fc
@JB-wy8fc 13 дней назад
We're being distracted from YOU
@differentworld2822
@differentworld2822 13 дней назад
Distracted by who is the rapist ,we only talk bout Martha and gadd but what bout the rapist
@marshall3759
@marshall3759 8 дней назад
Iunno why but but my immediate reaction was jonah hill
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