Bloody vs Full Health in actual combat 

I think a bloodied build is best realized after you unlock all the legendary card slots and max out a bunch of related cards. I don't see alot of lower level players running around with a bloody set up.

Nice take. Im fairly new to this game and watched a couple of videos. Found those low health builds soon and saw pretty much everyone using it. Thought full health builds wouldnt be viable even though id rather lean into those. Thanks for the comparison.

Fallout 76 is a very easy game once you reach the endgame. Yes, a bloody build does more damage. IMO the extra damage doesn't matter because the game isn't very challenging. A full health build that has the correct card's, armor and a good anti armor weapon can tackle anything that the game throws at them.

I feel like this doesn't give the full health builds the credit they deserve. I play a full health sneak vats sniper in 76. I use a vampires plasma flamer and a quad guass rifle. For armor I have full secret service with overeaters. I can melt enemies pretty well. While not as fast as bloodied automatics, I can usually take out super mutants with one or two shots to the head. Super Mutant Behemoths around 10 shots. But you do a decent job at trying to explain the differences.

Honestly any weapon that has aoe is the best pick currently regardless of health. A quad tesla, enclave flamer or a good regular flamer are great picks with holy fire being fairly easy to access. I'd like to tell ppl to avoid auto grenade launchers and Fatmans as a simple etiquette to other players since the animation is quite blinding and the fact that ammo can get expensive.

Thanks for the vid. I am a noob to 76. I love 4 but took a couple of year break and tried 76 out if curiosity a few weeks ago. I love it! Still deciding on a build. At the moment just lvl 60 and still with a full health build but i am keen to try bloodied for the improved weapon performance. Your video has helped me thanks.

I used to play on xbox since it came out and chose to get a bloodied commando build, it took a while but with some friends’ help I managed to get a top tier selection of guns and armor. After some time, and without new DLC updates I quit for some months. But recently I started a new game on PC after I gave my series X to my brother (and found my progress on xbox cannot be transferred) so I thought that instead of trying to create again a bloodied build, maybe I should try a different build, more precisely a power armor tank build, so I could play the game and all the recent DLC quests from a completely new perspective. All the benefits and cons of both builds are well explained in this video. From my experience I can say that bloodied builds are more ammo and VATS efficient (as you mentioned) and are more suitable for solo players who like exploring (extra carry weight and SPECIAL stats boosted). On the other side, full health builds are more consistent in battlefield scenarios, but can also be enjoyable to play solo too. I also want to point out that after a while of playing the same way, the game can get a little boring. BTW, I’m obsessed by power armors in the fallout series.

Full health build with vanguard and holy fire, I almost never die against anything

Right because the bypass in your resistances all resistances amount to is a secondary health bar if you’re doing enough damage or if you’re bypassing them then your resistance is don’t matter that’s why the recurring phrase resistances are completely unimportant the end level I mean endgame characters doing massive amounts of damage resistance, don’t matter damage reduction on the other hand is a different thing it’s not covered by savage straight so when you’re in power armor or you have per cars, they do damage reduction. Those are affecting your the outcome of your fighting daily apps under savage, strike and given you’re trying to compare low health with all the low health cards, which include damage reduction I mean, assuming you have all the wall health cards on you have several things causing damage reduction that don’t apply when you’re at full health, I’m back to my original statement. The only thing you need to know is if you want more damage go low health if you want more survivability go full house. Those are your two rationales. No offense dude but I never die on a full health building power armor with our playing solo. We’re with the right perk cards I never die there’s nothing in the game they can kill me unless I’m staying in the RAF care not fighting back versus anything that can do like even if you really know what you’re doing and you have like a lot of health, you know For 500 600 health your health pool on a low health Build is still only gonna be a little over 100 right so anything to hit you for more than 100 damage bypass and everything that’s why you get one hit sometimes if you get hit by stuff on savage strike your resistance is aren’t doing shit it’s ignoring them. The only thing you have left is health Which by the way I always have around 430 to 450 health I don’t like go overboard try hard sweaty I’m health, Irene I’ve seen turtle law get his self up in the six 700 range between Boston and whatever else and yeah it’s gonna be pretty hard for anything to kill but I don’t see the need because that like 430 or 40 I don’t member exactly what my health normally is I’m pretty impossible to kill unless I’m just not paying attention and shit wiggles me down But the demonstration you just did a full health versus low health. It’s not fair to either side on low health you have several things doing damage reduction. One of them has a 45% chance to completely negate all incoming damage and you gotta know as well as I do that it seems to happen it don’t seem like it’s happening half the time or a little less than have it seems like it happens a lot serendipity is kick ass, but then you also have damage reduction and other perk cards and that damage reduction is not affected by savage. Savage only goes after the resistance is on your armor, and if you got a full set of secret service, you’ve almost got the same resistance, the ballistic resistance of power armor, right but what you don’t have is the power armor has 7% per piece 42% total damage reduction just for having six pieces 90% rod reduction just for having six pieces regular armor doesn’t have either of those it’s only got resistances so when you’re low health in regular armor you have a small health pool you could get one hit pretty easy if everything fails your damage reduction from serendipity doesn’t kick in you could get one hit But the guy with 400 500 health and power armor getting damage reduction and a bomb wow it’s really just damage reduction me. I always have wow loan on so I always have that damage reduction in addition but I guess my point is you can’t compare these things again if you want the ability to do more damage low health if you want more survivability Fuller Health those are the two rationale. The only thing you need to think about and by the way, I’m more of A, do you like power armor wear it? You just have to understand it if you like oh not wearing power armor and you want to do damage you know I I don’t play law healthy the way I play full health whether I’m in or out of power armor, I just don’t worry if the shit doesn’t die on the first hit or the first shot or if it takes me an extra bullet or an extra racket or or whatever I just don’t care I don’t let them. I don’t let it get to me too much if it takes me a little more effort to kill but then again I use a Shredder is my main weapon and it doesn’t matter. I’m doing nearly 200 damage protect 20 times the second with that weapon being at low health doesn’t change that because none of those perk cards or mutations work with that weapon so it really doesn’t matter but it isn’t necessary anyway if I am at the queen with a bunch of people, I am literally the one doing the most damage to her when she’s on the ground. Obviously I can’t do anything to her in the air with that weapon but when she’s on the ground I’m the major damage dealer on the queen and I’m OK with not being able to attack her in the air I got rockets for that you know I got rockets tiger grenades all of which home on or if you use vats and so I always get the loot I always get you know in fact, I always get the loot dozens of critters all over the map after a queen, so I really don’t care if it takes me a little longer to kill something then it does say a perfectly specked out stealth commando belt I mean obviously stealth isn’t helping you at the queen anyway, she’s already Agro your not getting your stealth bonuses but it does keep you from getting distracted by other critters. You’re still invisible that everything You know I can’t go kill Earl in 18 seconds like you know wow one of the speed runners and I don’t really try to do any of those by myself anyway so I don’t care, but what I don’t do is have to worry about ammo I don’t have to worry about dying And that’s all I like to play and that’s kind of what I’m saying. If you want to wear power armor wear it but understand how it works. If you want to go low health do it but understand how it works and you will die more than I do. I guarantee you die more than I do because nothing can one shot me except in explording Player that still has you know an old are I got one shot by a guy with a Tom Dragon, and explody, one of the legacy explosive dragons and for whatever reason some of those dragons are doing each barrel damage is calculated as a separate shot so instead of a 110 damage cap for PVP on the whole weapon which by the way I mean that for barrel explosive weapon he’s doing like 15 1600 damage But in PVP it’s only supposed to Out at 1:10 so it should take him an excess of three may be an excess of four shots to kill me but he killed me in one so he did. I think we’re at the time that happened I was at 430 health and he killed me in one shot which means that he did at least 430 damage to me and the only way I can explain or describe that is that it must be counting the damage cap on each barrel And I just saw a video or somebody else was talking about using one so apparently they missed that weapon altogether in the legacy weapon you know removals I don’t care if they leave it out. I wish they’d fix the bog and make it so that even though it fires for barrels, they all fire at once. They should all damage as one and it should be limited to 110 otherwise you can run around with one of those weapons one shining anybody because I mean most people have maybe a couple hundred health 250 health for the longest time people would say six in Burns from like six insurance no wonder you die all the time you’re a stealth build arena low health filled with six and burns your health. Paul has to be about like 30 or 40, so you only have to get hit by an old 50 points are damaging your dad specially assuming something is avoiding your resistances and you can’t be in power armor, so no damage reduction from that that’s why power armor was always OP before legendary power armor it was already always ohP 42% damage reduction, across-the-board from all incoming damage and 90% rad reduction so if you took 100 points of damage 42 points would get ignored wouldn’t even damage your armor, that’s also why power armor doesn’t have to be repaired nearly as often because it doesn’t just absorb the damage of Disney gates it and Yarmer just doesn’t take that damage I’m like your regular armor which, if you don’t you know if you don’t use the white night or whatever it’s called, your armor takes a beating in your constantly repairing it.

You said the only damage increases was from 'whatever' perk, but you obviously also have Bloody Mess (+15% damage).

I switched to bloodied because more carry weight so I can pick up all the stuffs the extra damage is just ya know extra

I do more damage then that with a full health build and the same weapon. I hit super mutants for anywhere between 1200 and 2k crit for more.

Just to be clear, YOU don't die that often with a bloodied build. I've seen people that are no where near as skilled as you trying to play bloodied because the RU-vidr that plays for a living says it's better, but this average player dies 10x as much. It's also an anxiety thing for some people. I've tried going bloodied a few times, but seeing that health bar full of rads is disconcerting to me, so I choose not to deal with it. Besides, I can make a small fortune off of Unyielding gear this way.

As bloodied... always carry a Fast Fire Rate Vampires weapon. Anything will work. Plus using Ricochet while holding a vampires weapon triggers the vampire effect. As well as Unstable Isotopes and Electrically Charged serums. FFR Flamers are, what I feel the best weapons to use. I only use Vampire weapons in DOP's and Expeditions. Holy Fire + Plasma Caster (for range). Both vampires. 1-2 shots with Caster. Holy fire just melts. I will pull out bloodied weapons on big boss fights.

I cant get over the carrying capacity in power armor. It's excavators or collect a ton of stamps for union. Wish armor sets werent locked behind such content.

What outfit is that?

Actually play hard as you feel like it. If you don’t want to be bothered by radiation, maintaining your rads, then play full health if you’re dying too much playful health if you’re trying to get the most damage, then then play low health.

I do max health because i’d like to keep my hairline.

I think Bloodied/Unyielding combo builds honestly got nerfed too much... Like the whole point of it was a "glass cannon" build but due to how instanced mobs break your "stealth" instantly halving your damage plus the headaches of low health... Its like they took out the "cannon" and left the "glass" lol Then having / wanting to change builds just requires too much grinding for pieces especially if you dislike the expeditions because of the above problems lol

Yeah again you’re overlooking many things first of all while that mutation white overlook the armor it doesn’t overlook the damage reduction on power armor, so comparing power armor at any time really 29 power armor just doesn’t make sense power armor has resistance is, but it also has 42% damage reduction, which are separate and I handled differently. One is overlooked by Chris ones overlooked by how much damage do.

Dude, it’s not a complex issue. If you want the most damage you can possibly get you on low health. If you don’t care about men maxing and you just wanna play and have fun, go full house whole house with a legendary white rat card and you never have to worry about anything including eating, drinking radiation nothing you don’t have to worry About with the white rat card wearing Secret Service armor wow really doesn’t matter what armor you’re wearing with the white rat card I’ve popped out of via Menahga for Earl, forgot that when it ended, it was gonna bump me out into a fire storm, and was standing there for a minute and a half before I caught my character before he died I remove radiation van and timed it I I could get almost 2 minutes I think I had Secret Service armor on so I had a fair amount of armor 05 radiation resist but as we all know resist, don’t mean shit it’s red reduction that matters and damage reduction that matters not the resist you have on your armor they’re virtually immaterial And trust me take the white red card off and then stand out there and you’ll die in 20 seconds. So bottom line is if you want to get maximum damage bingo lol house and certain builds and place styles kind of require low health like Maily on our mail he used to be kick ass because when it was Malta on everything was multiplicative, they were getting so many bought from various things that you had lots of multiplicative boss. That’s why Malay took the biggest pet When they change it all the additive so if you’re going Malay and you want to get the most out of it and be able to go around one shotting everything glow house and if if if you just don’t care if you got a swing a few times, then go full house. It’ll be a lot less work maintaining a full house character Then it is maintaining a low health character. You don’t have to worry about radiation at all. It’s not even a consideration you just ignore it you don’t even have to carry around anything to mitigate radiation because white rads will care for the radiation. A good example is if you’re using a Shredder then you have to be in power armor anyway so go full house shredder is doing enough damage it doesn’t matter if you’re low health or not in fact, truth of the matter is regardless of any videos you watched on it, unless something has changed in the last couple of months five none of the low health mutations are per cards. In fact, they only per cards that really affect the shredder are the basher card the arms Call Hal I can’t think of it right now I am played in so long I forgot the name of the card for one and charisma that adds 10% of it maxed out well in the box it adds 10% by debossing the target and then the stabilize card gives your armor ignore nothing else Boost the damage of that weapon except strength might as well go full house there’s no point in going low house you’re not getting any more damage out of it but if you’re using an auto wax or a chainsaw or are you in the Mr. handy for a similar build, you can do that out of power armor, because incisor affects those weapons not stabilized there’s no power armor AP benefit Which the shredder is terrible a P out of power armor in power armor you get a general I don’t I don’t know if it’s a bug or walk but you don’t used a P in power armor that you do auto power armor where is those three weapons don’t seem to have that problem so you can use them out of power armor Low health you get all the benefits, so theoretically you could do a lot of damage I still think it won’t be nearly as much as the shredder, but I’ve never tried it, Lowells I know they don’t compare at all at full house a shredder still just estimates anything that way faster speed than Ben of any of the three auto Mili weapons And you can take what I’m saying with a grain of salt because I think the next patches are going to include some servers changes to perk card supporting the auto mealy weapon so maybe there’s gonna be a change to that, but in any case appointment as if you’re going to autoaxe, and you want to go auto power armor, you can go auto power, Rigolo, even in power armor you can go lol house and get more out of it. If you’re going shredder, low health doesn’t help you, so there are certain circumstances Where the choice is a requirement to write. I mean there’s no point waste of points on perk cards with a Shredder, you’re not gaining anything same with the mutations that go with low health I’ve tested them. None of them have any benefit with a shredder from none of the perk cards, the bonus damage per cards, except bashing, none of the anything else in any category has any benefit for Shredder You will dismembered corpses for instance, with the one in in in luck, but you won’t get extra damage. In fact, if you look at the dark keywords associated with that weapon, it’s got a keyword called best friend bro me which you know coincidentally, that’s all you get bloody mass will dismember corpses, will allow you to dismember them but you won’t see any big difference in the individual attack damage at all, I mean I tried every single card that will boost to damage on that weapon and I’ll be found one card that directly booth that and Wanda de busty enemy in Boost everybody doing damage to it and then armor ignore from stabilized if you’re in power hour if you’re not gonna wear power armor that weapons really not viable because you’ll use up all your a P in seven or eight seconds you’ll constantly be out in P with that weapon so you could still go low health but you are gaining nothing and tractor just make it a harder on yourself so there are certain circumstances where this doesn’t pay but it from a basic standpoint if you want the most damage calola Health if you want the most carefully carefree gameplay go full House it’s always gonna take it out been most cases more time to kill stuff with full health Felicia I’ll be having fun and you won’t be constantly having a monitor your radiation levels and you won’t be getting one hit by things. You know anything it does you’hat

I don't see what the debate is. Low health is less tanky. High health has a bit less damage/vats. Play your preference.

takes you 2 hits to kill a super mutant with a plasma caster? amatuer. i can kill them in 1 shot with a level 35 non-legendary pump action

That doesn’t hardly seem fair. You’re using emergency protocols on a chess piece on your full health power armor build seems like you’re not optimizing I mean truly if you’re gonna show the difference, tween full health and low health you should be showing a Fuller AFKed my files build against the Foley optimize low house build a mean in the end you’re going to get more damage with one more survivability with the others that simple it doesn’t take a long video to tell if it’s more damage with low health more survivability with full health.

bloodied is still an easy way out, a quick shortcut to ignore all the problems with the combat and the tied mechanincs. It ruins build diversity (most servers i join has everyone above lvl 100 using it) and basically guarantees that those people will actively fail an event just to stay in a single spot and kill enemies, ignoring all objectives THEN getting whiny that nobody is doing the objectives

I think for pvp it's bloodied without a shadow of a doubt since pvp is ultimately a case of who can deal the most damage in a handful of rounds at most. However for pve scenarios I think full health is better due to the adaptability. Not so much in standard open world but as soon as you get into daily ops or double mutation events you see very quickly how susceptible bloodied builds are to dying quickly.

As I thought, savage strike bypass is your resistance is it does not bypass damage reduction so power armor 42% damage reduction, regular armor zero low health up to 100% damage reduction if five watch Colvin what goes off with a like 45% chance blocker 50% Mili damage reduction every time I power armor with Mercy protocols 50% damage reduction from that all the time if you’re at low health so you’re comparing a bunch of apples and cantaloupes

Yeah you’re your oversimplifying now you also get more perception more I mean there’s all kinds of stats that matter you’re getting more perception more more agility. If you’re using unyielding armor you’re getting oh well I guess you’re giving up a bunch of health to get there, but you’re still getting more help from the armor it’s not a good comparison, no offense to be, but you took too many shortcuts. It sounds like you just weren’t prepared to properly demonstrate the difference so you took shortcuts and skipped optimizing each building that’s not fair to definitely not fair to the full health Build.

bloodied all day

I agree with people just using whatever build suits their play style. The only thing that drives me nuts is when people act like crybabies and try to nerf weapons or builds people put a lot of time & effort into creating. Unlike legacies, a lot of effort goes into making a good build & gear combo to reach those high levels of damage and it's just completely asinine to me for that to be nerfed when anyone can reach it if they put the time in. A good example of this is the supposed upcoming nerf of the Gauss shotgun; it's one of the last viable shotguns left in the game after they nerfed that build into the ground years ago and apparently they weren't satisfied until it becomes completely obsolete. A smart developer would BUFF the trash weapons to bring them to standard and make them relevant & viable again.

once you go bloodied you never go back.

And again, you gotta take off the perk cards that benefit well health, and put on for cards that benefit for Howell. Otherwise this is pointless.