If you showed this scene to someone without any context, they would probably think it’s about a celebrity just trying to show off his money and not the aftermath of one of the most soul crushing moments in the show
@@matheussanthiago9685 on one hand this show was one of the things that showed me how much I was letting my life go to waste and the kind of person I was becoming. On the other, Bojack is trash who never learned and is idolized by Hollywood types for being fake. This show opened my eyes towards my self, which is part of the reason idk why people idolize Bojack. He's fucking horrible and that's literally the point of the show
@@kingshittheturd683 I would dispute that. I don't think people idolise him so much as sympathise with him. He wants to be a good person, but for various reasons, especially his upbringing, he almost never is. I know the show often focuses on the concept of choice and free will, but as even Sartre admitted towards the end of his life, we don't have as much as we like to believe.
As cool as Bojack looks on top of his boat during this montage, I bet he's hiding his true emotions under those sunglasses, the pain of knowing he screwed everything up again and has to go home to the place he hates.
Eoghan Yore That was the point throughout the entire 6 seasons. Bojack has never been right. Idk where you are in the story but that’s made clear early on. This is an animated series that just got reeeeeaallly real.
a lot of people fail to realize that in bojacks view, he just lost the final thing that could've made him happy. He lost his chance at making a quality secretariat movie, he lost his chance of rebuilding the bridge with him and herb, he lost his chance with diane, he lost his chances with wanda, and now, he just lost his chances of a peaceful life with charlotte. his stone cold expression is a lot more depressing when you realize that this was his reaction to that fact that he could never be happy ever again.
i couldn't agree more.. and the way they showed this gesture is so breathtaking.. how the camera rolls infront of his face while the weather changes every second showing how he is processing different thoughts and at the same time the focus goes black showing that he realises that he cant change what he has done and how tired he is of himself.. how he has just accepted his misery and decided to move on.. and numb he is he that he cant even feel sorry for what he has done at that moment.. how broken he is by showing that he is going to the god awful place.. LA by a boat named escape from LA.. showing that he can't escape himself.. there's so much to this 50 second scene.. that many of us missed.. this as a tv show is the closest thing to reality i have ever watched i am truly amazed..
I don't think anyone fails to realise Bojacks view, however he lost all those things because of the choices he made. I'm empathetic with how he feels, but Bojack was a toxic person.
uhhhh… not really though… a constant theme throughout the show is that bojack needs to learn to make himself happy by simply living life- not through friends, awards, and women. although bojack literally SAW opportunities like the secreriat movie, a relationship w charlotte, wanda, etc as chances for happiness, we as the AUDIENCE know that NONE OF THAT will actually solve any of his problems, and sooner or later, bojack would most likely self destruct and ruin it all again for himself as he always does. WE understand that clinging to people, fame, and attention isn’t going to truly make bojack happy in the long run- and the problem is that he needs to wake up and learn that too.
@ozymandias You could argue his lowest point is when his mistakes are revealed to the public. Once this happens he loses Hollyhock, he drinks again after his longest period of sobriety, he learns he could have prevented Herb from being fired, he almost drowns at his house which he got evicted from, and then he goes to jail for 14 months. You could also say his lowest point is when he realizes he's completely uncertain of his future after jail and whether or not he can maintain a good lifestyle. That plus the fact he's lost all of his relationships except for the one with Mr. Peanutbutter. The shittiest thing he's done though is plaguing Sarah Lynn's life, and then the 17 minutes. That could easily be the lowest point as well.
I find it weird that the very scene after a 50 year old man almost slept with a 17 year old girl was the scene that made me realize how much I love this show.
He's 50 in season 1 and 57 in season 6. One season takes around one year in this universe, so Bojack is 51-52 in the moment he almost slept with Penny.
I know the reason behind this scene and all, but how fucking cool would it be to just be on the open road riding in a fucking boat? Bojack with his beer, cig, and glasses just tie it all together for a nice ass roadtrip back home.
This scene was powerful. Bojack unable to let go of his feelings for Charlotte, trying to act out all his regrets of not getting to know her 30 years ago by allowing himself to get too close to her daughter, heading back to the one place he didn't want to go, in a boat he had to buy just for the lie that he didn't drive to New Mexico to see Charlotte, knowing that no matter where he went _he_ was the tar, and he'd never not be able to mess up.
livingforever93 Its the episode where life hits you in the face and make you realize your existence isnt what you wanted, or what you deserved. I love Bojack. Its a good realty check for everyone. When people realize that all they can be is themselves then thats the step towards true progression. You cant fight the demon within without recognizing the demon itself.
livingforever93 It also hit me during a time where I had all too often ruined friendships by trying to get involved in empty romantic relationships... Really made me rethink things and look at myself...
The intro more or less is showcasing Bojack's hollywoo life, so of course they wouldn't play it when he's off the grid in New Mexico, they only play it when he going back aka returning to that lifestyle that the intro plays up
"When you look at someone through rose colored glass, all the red flags just look like flags" That's what Wanda said in the episode right before this one. All the red flags where there. (Bojack sleeping with Sarah Lynne, his womanizing ways. Only dating girls young enough to be his daughter or dating a woman with the mentality of an early 20 something year old. Mistreating Princess Caroline. Gaslighting Todd. Kissing Diane. Being mean, selfish and narcissistic ect) It was clear as day that he could be a predator, or at least had potential to be one, but we went into denial about it. We either "laughed off" his bad behavior, looked at in a sympathetic light or just dismissed it. When he's caught with Penny we are forced to see just how bad he really is and we're lefted in shock, because we can no longer deny the obvious. That Bojack has a serious problem and is dangerous to other people. Then his theme music starts to play as we just look at him sitting on his boat, as if he's saying to us: "You didn't know me, you felled in love with me, and now you know the real me"
It's not like the viewers fell in love with Bojack. If we ever painted him in a sympathetic light, dismissed something or laughed it off, it was because acknowledging it would mean acknowledging that _we_ who relate to him have similar issues. Us feeling like Bojack is likable, forgivable and can change makes us feel like we who are so like him can change too. That's why moments like this are melancholic, because we see how hard it is for us watching to change too...
@@simcard867 he should have said no 100 times. It’s on him. She is underage. Stop defending predator behaviors. Sure, he regrets, but not make up excuses like Bojack would have. As Todd said: “Its him”. Not Penny, not the alcohol. It’s purely Bojack
I don’t know why I love this scene so much. I think it is because we finally see bojack opening up, being kind, and parental, we get to see an alternate path. But then you play that song that we have for so long associated with bojack waking up and going through his day drunk, and a jerk, and a douche, and depressed, and miserable. And it is almost like we are getting back an old friend when he had the hardened criminal look, with the glasses, the cigarette, the beer, and the fact that he is on a boat. And even though nothing like nothing like it has happened before, we feel like bojack is up to his comical shenanigans once more. It gives me chills sometimes. Comparable to the ending scene of the second to last episode of breaking bad.
I like it because if you saw it out of context the imagery and music make him look pretty cool and iconic and we know inside he’s really in no control of his life but it’s like the calm before the storm when he gets back to LA
This comment put it perfectly. To me, the theme playing while Bojack sits on the helm of that boat like a badass is a reversion to an emotionally-closed off Bojack. Where he has screwed up another relationship to the point that he can’t repair it.
Notice how the sitcom intro play in the beginning to represent his expectation for a sitcom-happy-ending lifestyle then the normal intro plays to represent his grounding back to reality and his old ways
Especially if you've dealt with depression everything about this show stays with you. The animation. The music. The dialogue. The "tears of a clown" comedy. The character arcs.
I like how they focus on the sky images behind him because of how much he wants escapism. I can remember going out for a drive when something awful happened to me just to escape it all, and I think they cleverly emphasize it here, especially since the whole theme of the episode is about trying to run from your problems.
I love this part for no reason. Actually there are reasons. The backgrounds, the transitions, the fact that the theme song of the show is better than 99% of all songs ever.
I feel like people overlook one of the key aspects of this montage, he’s sitting on a boat, pulled by a semi, which is at one point on a Los Angeles highway that has twists and turns for days. And he’s sitting on top of that boat in a lawn chair. He doesn’t care if he falls off, he’s going back to the place he hates and is at a true low point. Bojack is ready to fall off the boat.
When I saw this scene I lost my shit, since the season was ending I thought season 3 was gonna be about bojack on that boat just going places to avoid LA for a whole season and that this montage was gonna be the new intro, I'm still happy with the results that happened after this tho
TheRenegade That would’ve been an amazing season. Season 3 is still my favorite season regardless though. Your idea would’ve made it so much better though.
I love that the opening to this episode starts with the schlocky sitcom "Kyle and the Kids" intro so that when Bojack's theme comes in at the end, it's as if to say "and now back to our regularly scheduled programming..."
I absolutely love reading the comments about how Bojack is this cold-hearted asshole with generous humane undertones, serving as a brutal but honest glimpse into the everyday human psyche... and he is a CARTOON HORSE. The creators are brilliant. It's a sin that this show hasn't received the recognition it deserves.
To be fair, it kinda does have that recognition? It has won several awards and has outstanding recognition. It’s one of Netflix’s most popular shows. I’m a huge fan as well, but saying it doesn’t have recognition is a bit untrue
especially since it can go from light-hearted(you know all those episodes with Todd, like him making Disneyland, and Vincent Adultman) to heavy and emotional. that's one of the things tha makes it so great for me
While this definitely isnt the best writen scene in the show, its absolutely my favorite. Everyting about it does such a perfect job of illustrating Bojack restarting his cycle of bulshit. The douchey aviator shades, the flicking his cigarette over the side of the boat, and of course him taking the boat he named "escape from L.A." on its maiden voyage, which is revealed with perfect comedic timing to be going back to L.A. on an 18-wheeler.
I know that this is right after one of the most soul crushing moments in the show, but damn if it not makes bojack look like a total friggin' badass. I rewinded the episode when I first saw it. Its so freaking cool.
Bojack doesn't care if he falls off the boat. In fact, he doesn't seem to care about money or success, only if others think he is a good person. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think Bojack is a terrible individual. He's someone who lacks courage, and never got a grip on adulting. He reached his peak in his 20s during 'Horsing Around'. After that, he was pretty much set for life. He didn't have to grow as a person, or work towards something, or work to keep people in his life. So he's pretty much stuck in his wild 20s party days which is unbecoming & non-constructive for a 50 year old man. On a different note, I think Bojack is pretty tolerant for not getting mad at Todd & Diane for trashing his house.
I really love this scene in a bittersweet sense because its funny that he is going back with “escape from LA” and it is now like a huge baggage because its been haunting his mind ever since, but it is also sad and he went back to be with his fantasy dream girl and he fucked everything up with her in a non-returnable way and actually gave damage to them and now he is “escaping back to LA”. It is the first time he step up for something and move his ass for precious (as he thinks) and what he really want, and he saw not only he couldn’t grab it, but it also slipped away from his hands for good because of his own fucked up fault. I really wish to see bojack get better but i think ending is going to either end with bojack killing himself, or he is going to adopt a baby.
Although his actions are completely unjustifiable in this episode and he's once again proven himself to be an asshole, you got to admit, this scene goes hard
The best part is the intro music doesn't play for the entire episode until this scene. Marking the moment bojack releases he can't just escape the life he's been living
I think most people don't get why the intro song plays here, the whole point of the episode is Bojack escaping his life, trying to be as far from it as possible, leaving his life back in LA and the whole episode is him trying to forget about his problems and life, he's in a whole new show, even the intro isn't his, its kyle and the kids, so after bojack does something so horrible the intro plays, as he returns to the show, hes once again entering his own life, after escaping and failing miserably the intro begins to play, tormenting him with the idea of him returning to his own life, he's back to his show, he's back to the life he hates and tried to run away from
I always have Patrick Bateman's ending monologue from American Psycho running through my head while watching this. "There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it I have now surpassed. My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape, but even after admitting this, there is no catharsis. My punishment continues to elude me and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing."
jesus, this could just as well be one of Raskolnikov's many ramblings from Crime and Punishment the violent kind of pain seems to be very old subject to portray
@@sillygoose2347 at once infinitely better and just the same. The confession does seem to change...nothing. All I have learned, all the therapy, the relationships, the new choices made and old habits abandoned...I'm the same miserable, unlovable sack of shit. I keep giving energy to the idea that I have hope, because I know is a necessary though not sufficient quality for evolution, but this is entirely done on faith: there is absolutely no tangible evidence that things will get better. I just continue believing they will, because if I don't believe it then that is a method for guaranteeing that they will not get better.
Agree. I personally think the first 3 seasons in general were just better though. Nothing really stuck out to me in the later seasons as much as this scene and the season 3 finale where Bojack is watching the running horses while "Stars" by Nina Simone is playing.
@@jinxthatsme2317sorta agree. There’s still some standout moments in the later seasons like time’s arrow, free churro, and the view from halfway down. But seasons 2 and 3 felt like they had the writing down almost perfectly
