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Celestion G12h-75 Creamback shootout 

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The Celestion G12H-75 Creamback (H Creamback) is a great speaker. Brought out around 2013/14 as a higher powered alternative to some of Celestions other H speakers.
In this shootout video we take the G12h-75 creamback and show how it mixes with and directly against 21 other speakers.
Speaker mixes 0:19
Talking 2:51
Speaker shootout 5:08
The speakers are Celestion Alnico Blue, Vintage 30, Century Vintage, G12-65 (Heritage not classic series), Alnico Cream, V type, H heritage 55Hz, Classic Lead 80, Alnico Gold, H heritage 75Hz, H creamback 75, G12H Redback, M creamback 65, H anniversary, M heritage, G12T-75, Neo Creamback, Alnico Ruby, Mystery Speaker, A Type, WGS Invader 50
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Gear list:
Zilla Fatbaby 1x12
Paul Reed Smith Custom 22
Marshall JMP 2203
Tul G12
Two Notes Reload

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25 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 89   
@alphamilkrecordings8974
@alphamilkrecordings8974 2 года назад
So what I'm getting out of this is that the Creamback 75s are a balanced as hell speaker and sound better than almost anything.
@AngryMuffinMusic
@AngryMuffinMusic 2 года назад
I replaced the V-types with Creamback G12H75s in an SV20 plexi and the amp went from 'pretty good amp, man ' to 'i can't believe how amazing, authentic and musical this 20 watt bundle of fucking joy is now". No hyperbole.
@Unusednickname_1970
@Unusednickname_1970 3 года назад
These comparisons are great, thank you. The G12H Creamback sounds very balanced, to my ears, in this demo. G12M Greenback sounds amazing as well.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Thanks for that David, that's very kind of you, I'm glad you are enjoying them.
@firststep7750
@firststep7750 3 года назад
I'm loving these graphs! A combination of G12M (thick rhythm) and G12 Neo (the mix-cutter).......but a combination of G12M and G12H for full sounding rhythm would be perfect. Maybe a 4x12 with G12H/M on the bottom and two G12 Neo's on the top. Thanks for the making the effort. I've been on binge tonight.
@davidgerlach1132
@davidgerlach1132 2 дня назад
The video is excellent, BRAVO! The associated graphs help tremendously, Celestion T5890 G12H-75 on the way...
@joshuabenton3785
@joshuabenton3785 Год назад
G12M65, G12H75, and G12 Alnico were my favorites. Loved their EQ's so much!
@in2mu5ic
@in2mu5ic Год назад
Great videos! Just keep in mind the "EQ hangover" that you perceive for a few seconds when switching immediately from speaker to speaker. Listen to a darker speaker and all of a sudden your favorite Creamback sounds too harsh and brittle immediately after. Listen to a brighter sounding speaker and now your favorite Creamback sounds dull and lifeless immediately after. Taking a quick pause between will remedy this. Keep up the great work!
@TVoltG
@TVoltG 2 года назад
I have a cab with two Greenback 25's on top and two Creamback 75's on the bottom in a 412 cab. Sounds huge when opened up. Saying that, mixing with a G12 75's was pretty amazing with hard rock/metal.
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed 2 года назад
Another great video that helped me decide what I would replace T-75s in my Marshall cab with. I got that cab used a few years ago without knowing much about the differnt kinds of speakers (I played combo amps for years) and I never liked the high end of the T-75s (they get harsh easily) and I found them too boomy and they are quite scooped (bought that cab used a few years ago and it dates back to 2003 or 2004 but was in pristine condition). After hearing a ton of shootouts, I went with two H75 Creambacks and 2 V30s in X pattern. That is a killer mix that instantly gave me a more balanced tone with much more present and cleaner mids and much less flubby low end and the fizziness of the T75s is gone! The cab sounds great with clean, crunch and higher gain. I run a Revv Dynamis 7-40 into it and it sounds round and clear. Hearing close comparisons likein in this video really helped. Thank you!
@padgreen
@padgreen 3 года назад
Of all of them, I prefer the Creambacks (M, H and Neo), Greenbacks and the Alnico's, although none of these speakers sounds bad and the H Creamback mixes well with all.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Good hearing from you Patrick. I think the H cramback is a great speaker for mixing and you picked out some really god speakers there too.
@dragui9932
@dragui9932 3 года назад
Really useful ! Thank you!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Excellent, thanks for that, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@davidwhite805
@davidwhite805 3 года назад
These videos are fantastic. Can’t wait to order a fatboy or oversized with Redbacks. Keep up the great work!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Excellent, thanks for that David, I'm glad you like them. I look forward to hearing from you about that Fatboy. Paul.
@otaviosmartins1
@otaviosmartins1 3 года назад
I have one and absolutely love it with mixed with my jensen blackbird
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Cool. I have toget a black bird in the workshop, it's been a while since I've played one.
@otaviosmartins1
@otaviosmartins1 3 года назад
@@ZillaCabs I thkin you guys will like it, sound really nice!
@torchlord11
@torchlord11 2 года назад
I paired the Blackbird with an ET 90 a while back and it is louder than WGS which takes a support role filling out the mids and gives it an airy bright addition to the high frequencies of the rounded-off high end of the blackbird and the blackbird gives you the lower bass frequencies. It would be interesting to hear it with some Celestions.
@dimitarneshev9182
@dimitarneshev9182 4 месяца назад
Great video as usual ! for me G12h30 55 paired with G12H creamback exellent and the blue /g12h75 creamback combo is perfect too
@theceoofgibson2563
@theceoofgibson2563 2 года назад
Really liked it with the g12h30, something magical with the presence and the low mids.r
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 2 года назад
There's a lot of love for the H30 lately.
@richhansen8874
@richhansen8874 3 месяца назад
Great video!
@joehoppard814
@joehoppard814 3 года назад
Ah, getting one of these in my Fatbaby! Can't wait!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Great, I think you'll love it in there.
@SapperRJMorgan
@SapperRJMorgan 3 года назад
Me too!!!
@joehoppard814
@joehoppard814 3 года назад
@@SapperRJMorgan mine's to accompany a Marshall Studio Vintage head - one of those 20W plexis. What about you?
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад
As always, adding weight extends the bass and mid high to high high response, and fills the low mids and the middle mids. It's a more of anything boost, but this doesn't really apply to all frequency ranges equally. The same in its basic principle stands true for cabinets, guitars, anything. It's material/ sound mechanics.
@SapperRJMorgan
@SapperRJMorgan 3 года назад
Just bought one!! Was going to buy one but based on your videos I was sure. Thanks guys.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Excellent, I hope you get on well with it.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Speaker mixes 0:19 Talking 2:51 Speaker shootout 5:08
@ianmcfarland512
@ianmcfarland512 3 года назад
I very much like these 21 speaker shootouts. They are very helpful when one is trying to choose a speaker combination. Please do a 21 speaker shootout using the Alnico Gold as the speaker of main focus. I currently have an Alnico Cream paired with an Alnico Gold in a Vox AC30 and I have found that I don't like the Cream in this application. A shootout with the Gold would be fantastic! Thanks!
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад
The Ruby is a great pair for the Gold, actually these two speakers are as if the Blue was torn apart in a mellower (ruby) and edgier (gold) side.
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 2 года назад
The G12H30 sounds really good. I thought the Creamback was my favorite Celestion but the Heritage is just a bit clearer and less boxy in the mid range.
@rickt.8866
@rickt.8866 2 года назад
Both together sound awesome! I just replaced my Chinese made V30’s in my Orange PPC212OB. It was a definite upgrade and I’m very pleased with the tone which will get even better in the future!
@gabyleviking
@gabyleviking 3 года назад
The best mix I heard was a G12H75 creamback and a G12H30 in a victory vertical 212 (nearly compact cab), it blown me away, perfect match for maximum dynamic and headroom! But in this kind of cab highs were agressives. I will try now in a zilla super fatboy which is, with no doubt, the best cab I hear in my life!
@Eggy-bp6pj
@Eggy-bp6pj 3 года назад
You guys read my mind!!!!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
haha, to be fair I'm surprised we didn't put this up before. Glad you like it.
@OperationEndGame
@OperationEndGame Год назад
H75 + VType actually sounds very good.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs Год назад
I think the Vtype came out pretty good in these situations.
@piercedswitch
@piercedswitch 2 года назад
This video bears out my experience. I have a 212 loaded with H75 CBs and it sounds really bright and harsh. I’m hoping that mixing another speaker will help.
@KipCount
@KipCount 2 года назад
Did you end up finding a speaker you like paired with the H75? I’ve got a 2x12 myself right now loaded with two H75 CB. And I’m torn. I definitely feel there’s room for improvement swapping one of them out.
@piercedswitch
@piercedswitch 2 года назад
@@KipCount I ended up just replacing them with V30s
@LiamDarden
@LiamDarden Год назад
@@piercedswitch Do you like the V30's better? Also what kind of amp are you using? I have an orange head and am replacing 2 of the 4 orange stock speakers in my cabinet with creamback H speakers to bring some clarity since I find them too dark and muddy. I am also thinking of mixing v30's in if I am still not happy with the leftover stock speakers.
@SkeledroMan
@SkeledroMan 2 года назад
75 creamback and Neo creamback or 75 creamback and G12H anniversary for me
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 2 года назад
Yeah they are both great mixes. There has been a lot of love the H anniversary as a speaker to mix with lately.
@johnbeloe
@johnbeloe 3 года назад
Alnico blue mix for my ears
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
That is a great mix.
@taxo
@taxo 2 года назад
Vids like this really let ya know why the V30/H30Anny combo is so damn popular: they both really get out of the vid to smash your teeth, they project themself so forwardly that are definitely a rock couple. Side note: the Neo creamback really cuts great, and the century vintage is a surprise for real. Question: why is the red back so appreciated?it always sounds so distant...
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 2 года назад
Thanks that is very kind of you. I agree, especially with the century vintage, that was a nice surprise. As for the redback, I do really like it but I think it is a personal preference thing, some people I know really don't like it, plus I don't think it settled in this recording process as well as it could. Here we were restricted to how much we changed the eq which isn't how you would normally play a speaker.
@codymcgrew4015
@codymcgrew4015 3 года назад
For myself: 0:21 w/ G12 Blue Alnico 0:28 w/ M Greenback 0:36 w/ Century Vintage 0:50 w/ Alnico Cream 0:57 w/ V-Type 1:04 w/ H Greenback 30W 55Hz 1:19 w/ Gold Alnico 1:26 w/ H Greenback 30W 75Hz 1:32 w/ H Creamback 1:47 w/ M Creamback 1:54 w/ G12H Anniversary 2:01 w/ M Heritage 2:22 w/ Ruby Alnico
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад
I liked it best with the alnicos and other creambacks. And the g12h. You, friend?
@codymcgrew4015
@codymcgrew4015 2 года назад
@@georgefromgreece4119 pretty much exactly the same. I’m torn between H paired with the M Creamback, or an H 75hz Greenback, OR going all Alnico Cream
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад
@@codymcgrew4015 obviously you like both warmth and chime at the same time, as me. It's a matter of your budget, mainly. What is the rest of your rig and the genres you play?
@codymcgrew4015
@codymcgrew4015 2 года назад
@@georgefromgreece4119 I like mostly Post-Punk and Post-Hardcore stuff, but my favorite bands are Nirvana, Fugazi, The Jesus Lizard, Big Black. But primarily, I just love thick, yet clear, rhythm guitar (power chords, line leads, etc.)
@codymcgrew4015
@codymcgrew4015 2 года назад
@@georgefromgreece4119 I play a Marshall DSL40C (old model) And a Fender Blackface Bassman ‘65 (inspired by Nirvana haha) I’ve got a Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp recently (also inspired by Cobain) and I’m looking to buy a cabinet. If I do a 2x12, I’ll probably go with two Alnico Creams to get enough wattage going. If I do a 4x12, I’ll probably do H Creambacks coupled with either the 75Hz or 55Hz Greenbacks. What about you??
@RodrigoEMacedo
@RodrigoEMacedo 3 года назад
Great!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Thanks, glad you like it.
@mbgmail5911
@mbgmail5911 2 года назад
Man I wish this one was 96-97db like a G12M.
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 2 года назад
You can still mix them without too many issues.
@mbgmail5911
@mbgmail5911 2 года назад
@@ZillaCabs I don't like mixing speakers at all since I am micing only one at the gig so I can never truly get an idea how my cab will sound going by the mixed tone in the room.
@HamzaJamzaFamza
@HamzaJamzaFamza 3 года назад
Is there an A/B video of the V-Type vs the G12H-75 Creamback?
@cmcald0
@cmcald0 3 года назад
Would a 2x12 combo of the G12H-75 and the Greenback M (either classic or heritage series) or a G12H-75 and G12 Anniversary make sense?
@fabiogramani3849
@fabiogramani3849 Год назад
Best speakers imho: - Creamback 75 - V Type - Ruby - Heritage H
@powdermnky007
@powdermnky007 2 года назад
0:28 Creamback & G12M-25 0:57 Creamback & V-Type 1:32 2 Creambacks
@newking70
@newking70 3 года назад
it paired best with the 65w creamback, sounded mufled with the alnico speakers.
@scottdavidson6066
@scottdavidson6066 2 года назад
You guys at Zilla left the Vintage 30 out of the "mixed with" section. Oops!
@PaulProvosty
@PaulProvosty 4 месяца назад
0:37 0:50 0:58 1:54 1:20
@gab.lab.martins
@gab.lab.martins Год назад
I’m looking for this video with the M Creamback, but it seems you haven’t made it yet ☹️
@kow294
@kow294 3 года назад
Is it just me or the V-Type sounds really close to this creamback??
@Unusednickname_1970
@Unusednickname_1970 3 года назад
It’s a decent speaker, but has a weird notched midrange to my ears. I thought I liked it at first, but after a few rehearsals I’ve given up on it. I much prefer the current G12M Greenback.
@kow294
@kow294 3 года назад
@@Unusednickname_1970 what amps did you use it with?
@Unusednickname_1970
@Unusednickname_1970 3 года назад
Just my Marshall SV20 so far. I tried it with that amp because it’s the speaker that Marshall puts in the matching 2x12. Not a bad speaker at all, but I prefer others. Just my opinion. ;)
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад
@@Unusednickname_1970 yes it definitely has a differently pronounced midrange. It suits open backs more usually. And american voiced clean amps, or clean amps in general.
@MrKnisterable
@MrKnisterable 4 месяца назад
5:10. 7:17. 7:50 5:17. 7:41. 8:30 neo 5:29. 6:29 5:52. 6:17
@alvaroruizruiz7538
@alvaroruizruiz7538 2 года назад
To me best combo was with the alnico blue, then century and v type for some reason. Mixed with itself sounded cool too but a little out of phase, could it be?
@teddee7900
@teddee7900 Год назад
What amp?/ wattage?/ matched or matchless impedance? Just curious because if your running them in a 2x12 8ohms outa the head is implied. But 4x12 changes things.
@nicolaslopez5923
@nicolaslopez5923 3 года назад
Mixes G12t-75 2:09
@Dearco
@Dearco 3 года назад
Sorry but I did not hear or see the H creamback with the V30... What happened?
@mbgmail5911
@mbgmail5911 2 года назад
Is the mystery speaker a Lynchback?
@6hgad
@6hgad 3 года назад
Hi! guys, nice video! I can´t find information about the difference between celestion marshall g12h-cc 75w (that comes in the Astoria cabinet and combo) and the g12h-75. Can you share some info if you have some? Thanks a lot! see you
@JamieSlays
@JamieSlays 3 года назад
*like* :D
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 3 года назад
Things are starting to open up mate, you know what that means!
@mikejamieson419
@mikejamieson419 2 года назад
Reminds me of a young Steve Winwood
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