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Celestion V30 Vs Neo Creamback shootout

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Celestion V30 and neo creamback are two great speakers, also great for mixing together. The Vintage 30 and neo craemback are well suited tonally mixing an industry standard with the warmth and boldness of the neo creamback. In this video we set both speakers directly against each other and then mix them through several style, allowing you to hear what each speaker is doing under similar circumstances.
To do this we recorded both speakers in an identical 1x12 setup, same mics, mic placements, amps and settings by re-amping the same scenario through several different styles.
We love to hear your thoughts on anything speaker related, if you've used this pair before or the individual speakers, or if you have any suggestions please get in touch.
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Gear used:
Zilla Fatbaby 1x12 cab
Marshall JMP 100W
Laney VC15
Deisel Schmidt
Peavey 5150
Marshall silver jubilee
PRS CU22
Fender EJ Strat
Ibanez Artist

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25 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 73

@dickhanks755 3 года назад

I bought a used Victory 212VH vertical 2x12 to pair with my VX100 head. Besides the G12H30 bringing the power rating down to 60w combined with the V30, I found the G12H30 harshly bright, especially with it being the top speaker while sitting close to the cab. So I replaced the G12H30 with a Neo Creamback, and I couldn't be happier! It pairs really nice with the V30 on the bottom. Power handling for the 2x12 is now 120w (plus lighter!), and the lower sensitivity of the Neo works well for being the top speaker, with the V30 below...

@duncancartledge1667 3 года назад

Love the Neo Creamback, one of my favourite speakers. Keeps the low end tight like a V30 but has the mids and upper of a greenback, very well balanced.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks Duncan, I'm the same with it, its a great speaker and a really cool mix too. Thanks for watching.

@duncancartledge1667 3 года назад

@@ZillaCabs now I’m wondering how one would sound with a V30 in my 2x12…. Only just put the greenbacks in it.🤣🤣🤣

@Gornflyin 3 года назад

Creamback smokes the V30 for everything IMO

@slingshotcrazy 3 года назад

V30’s in a Fatboy here!!! Awesome, awesome cabs!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

That's very kind of you mate.

@meik_6253 3 года назад

Great, I'm waiting to hear it. I really like the 2 speakers mixed together. In the future I will order Celestion V30 Vs Neo Creamback shootout 4x12.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

That mix does sound great in a 4x12 for sure.

@sugarnap245 Месяц назад

Wow, I didn’t realize how much the creambacks totally smoke the v30 in every shootout. I have a Sourmesh 1936 2x12 cab that had a pair of 65w creambacks that I swapped one out for a Fane Crescendo A and man, that cab sings. Been thinking of ditching the other creamback and putting my other crescendo in it or getting a mesa traditional 4x12 and putting the two crescendos in there with two white label g12t-75s. Was running either a 1980 JMP 2204 or a Mesa Mark IV, now I’ve got a Marshall Origin for gigging and can’t believe how much ground that amp covers and how close it gets to the clean sound of my vintage JMP!

@cchavez248 11 месяцев назад

Creambacks slay! The V30 sounds like it has a head cold in comparison!

@Adrin1117 2 года назад

Great comparison video! I love the sound of those creambacks. They're so full, smooth and warm sounding. The V30's have a really good sounding mid-range bite though. I think it's about time I get a Creamback/V30 cab...

@Riffmaster69 11 месяцев назад

Best demo/comparison of these two on RU-vid

@Infinighost 2 года назад

The comparison at 2:44 perfectly shows why I hate the Vintage 30. I play mostly high gain and can't stand that constant sizzle once you get gain going. I will never understand how the V30 became the default speaker in most high end cabs.

@Traynoramp08 2 года назад

I agreed. Love the v30. But it's hard to get rid of that fizz sizzle.

@zerosoma33 2 года назад

I don’t hear sizzle at all in my Mesa F30

@-DILLIGAF 2 года назад

@@zerosoma33 Mesa has a proprietary formula with celestion for theirs. It's not the same as the standard issue v30

@alvarg 2 года назад

because it cuts through and in a mix with post processing most of that isn't noticable

@ZillaCabs Год назад

Thanks for watching. I think a lot of people like it for its cut in the mix.

@ITigerbaum 2 года назад

yup the Cream Neo for my ear. Happy the lighter tech responds nicely for clean and monster tones. Thanks.

@ZillaCabs Год назад

I love that one too... we've had a lot of people say it sounds awful and fizzy lately although I don't hear that, I think it's a cracker. Thanks for watching.

@0800338833 3 года назад

Yes lads! These videos are great 👍🏻 🍻

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks mate

@devilyoushy 3 года назад

My go-to combo in my oversized fatboy! I might ping you guys again in the nearest future as we all know, one cab is never near enough haha

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

haha that's what I like to hear. I do really like that mix, it is just really useful isn;t it. Thanks for watching.

@christianboddum8783 3 года назад

The Neo-Creams always come across really well ! I use the Neo-Cream IRs to great effect ;-) More even than Greenback G12Ms, but in the same ballpark. I'm not a Metal guy so the V30s never won me over, too fizzy with gain IMO. FWIW

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

The neo creamback is quite greenback like isn;t it... or at least shares some of the pleasant characteristics.

@danieln2967 3 года назад

Please do the Celestion Hempback video review! Btw, im a big fan of your channel!

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

or that. We've got a load of Hempback videos lined up, but right now we've been asked to not release them until the speaker is officially released. Stay tuned.

@chaseth Год назад

love your guys channel. done right

@ZillaCabs Год назад

Thanks mate, that's very kind of you... we'll be starting to put new content up again soon.

@williamthomas1966 3 года назад

Another great video, thanks Zilla. As the proud opener of a Neo-loaded Laney VC-30, with an extension can earmarked for a speaker upgrade, this kind of answers a lot of my questions!

@michagrabowski6753 10 месяцев назад

Hello :) I also am owner of a VC30 (with stock 70-80 speaker) and I'm looking for a swap. Do you remember what you didn't liked in your pair up VC30+Neo Creamback? To what you swapped eventually?

@williamthomas2893 10 месяцев назад

@@michagrabowski6753 Hey Michael. There’s nothing I don’t like about the pairing! Maybe you misunderstood as i was also talking about an extension cab that I’m looking to speaker-change as a complement to the Neo Creamback. But as to the amp itself, it’s win win. Sounds impeccable (I frequently get dudes coming up after shows to complement my tone, which is very simple and mostly down the VC30/Neo Creamback/sovtek valve pairing. Well, that and my ‘73 L6-S and MXR Sugar Drive). But you also lose weight AND gain a little space between the speaker and the valves. Do it, you won’t regret it.

@michagrabowski6753 10 месяцев назад

@@williamthomas2893 Thanks for the feedback. I must admit, that I'm relieved, thanks :D The stock speaker's best years are behind it and I started looking for an alternative. Due to the design flaw of the amp (distance between back of the speaker and tube sockets) I turned to Celestion NEO speakers to avoid modifications. I hesitate between the Creamback and the V-type. The stock speaker, combined with my guitar, gives a lot of piercing, I would say even unpleasant treble frequencies, and it would be great to tame it down a bit. That is why I'm considering Creamback more. Which version of the VC30 do you have? 1x12 I suppose? The one with the tone knob or the effect level knob? What kind of guitar are you using? Would you be willing to share your standard EQ settings (more or less)?

@williamthomas2893 10 месяцев назад

@@michagrabowski6753 Mine is actually the very earliest model, when it was called the GC30 (confusing as they then made another amp called the GC30), from 1993/4 I believe. It had an HH speaker in stock. Tonally I love it. I don’t tend to use the bright switch and have bass at 2, mid at 5 and treble at 3. I like the spring reverb and use the effects loop for tremolo as I like the way it blends in. It’s a bloody loud amp, so I generally have it around 2.5 on the clean vol and use various boosts and drives to push the front end a bit. I sometimes use a Weber attenuator, which is a lot of fun as you can drive the clean channel into drive heaven. Burns through valves though.

@williamthomas2893 10 месяцев назад

@@michagrabowski6753And yeah, it’s 1x12 with no extra tone or ‘voice’ control other than the BMT eq.

@benjaminfowler4513 3 года назад

I was really wanting a neo creamback in a fender combo I have and was gonna wire it up so that I could run my crush 60 combo into it as well when I wanted to, but in the last few days I discover fanes ascension series and like several of those. Wish I could find a comparison of the neo to some of the fanes.

@ScottDreyfus Год назад

Neos FTW a 212 with a neo and a greenback may be the way to go

@DankenNordstrom 3 года назад

Both of them sound really great! I replaced two V30:s in a H&K 2x12 for a Neo Creamback and a Neo V-type, just out of curiosity! The two Neo-speakers combined sounds amazing! 👌👌

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Great call... yeah they do, we've got a video on that coming out soon. Thanks for the comment.

@georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад

How do you think those two compare to each other?

@mtmusicgear 2 года назад

Thinking I may need to snag the Orange Amps ppc212V then swap a v30 out of my ppc212c and have the best of both worlds in the best of both worlds (open and closed cabs). Awesome video. Thanks for such helpful content!

@johnkerr2438 2 года назад

Where would you put each speaker in the vertical cab?

@jimicoltrane 2 года назад

Great video. Seem close enough to make the swap to NEO a nobrainer for me in my 53 lb combo. SUGGESTION: I'd love to see the same video compare the NEO Creamback with Jensen's NEO Tornado Classic. They're direct competitors and I don't believe anyone's does a good comparo.

@ZillaCabs 2 года назад

Thanks Jimi, and that's a great suggestion. We need to get more Jensens in the studio to work with. Keep watching we'll get working on that.

@brozio77 3 года назад

neo creamback for sure :) dunno like v30

@G-Point-EU-AU 2 года назад

Please compare with Alnico too ! Neo is sounding cleaner, but too bright and missing basic lows for me...

@doctorskull8197 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing this awesome video ‼️. But I just couldn’t tell the difference. Certainly, the audience will never notice.

@billhannum4117 Год назад

I have a fender super sonic 22 combo and I am thinking about replacing the horrible stock speaker with one of these. It's a toss up though the v30 and the neo both sound really good

@voidburner8271 Год назад

Creamback 10000x better.. No idea why people like v30.. sound so harsh and nasty. Creamback is smooth and natural

@jprosentreter 4 дня назад

Cream back certainly more pleasing to the ear on its own, but v30s just do "it" in a mix with my Orange amps better. However, style of what you're playing will yield different results. Horses for courses, now...put em BOTH in a 2x12 and BOOOOM!

@quomofo1 Год назад

Which of these two speakers would work best in a Marshall DSL40 for a 90’s Weezer crunch style of music. Or what would be the best speaker option for that style of music?

@Ollonskog 3 года назад

The Neo Creamback is as captivating as Paul's hair in these intros ;)

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

I have to admit, it does look like someone glued my bald head and rubbed me around a barber shop floor ;)

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

oh and you should see it now, I;ve got a few months on that badboy now.

@Ollonskog 3 года назад

@@ZillaCabs Oooh, please make a new video just for the hair! Also, it could be a new Zilla logo! :D

@digitalchris6681 Год назад

Hmm. A slight difference, but I reckon that there are better ways to spend your hard-earned dollars than chasing the ultimate tone by swapping out these two.

@ZillaCabs Год назад

You'll notice quite a big difference between these two, switching speakers is often the low cost way of adapting a sound to be more suited to you, but its always up to the individual.

@jardstenmark5005 3 года назад

Have you tried Hesu Demon speaker? it's a modern take on the V30

@Matt-Kin 3 года назад

what about mixing a v30 with a neo v type ? Have you tried ?

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

yeah that video is on its way, we have a few neo v type videos coming

@johnkerr2438 2 года назад

In a stacked 1x12 cab situtation which speaker would be the best for top and bottom placement?

@kissisawesome1231 5 месяцев назад

which one would be better for an acdc tone ?

@ZillaCabs 5 месяцев назад

I'd probably say the neo cream but you'll get close with either.

@Alfredo78666 Год назад

Estás igual!

@alvarg 2 года назад

the v30 and neo mix sounds weird, I dont think they compliment each other well, the v30 and T75 sounds much better mixed

@waitin4winter 2 года назад

Vintage 30 sounds better. I own both, and I so wanted to like the neo creamback more because it would lighten my load, but v30 just sounds better.

@matsoundmixingstudio4319 2 года назад

The neo creamback sounds less harsh than V30

@ZillaCabs 2 года назад

It is a smoother speaker, that's why it is quite popular in a 1x12. Thanks for watching.

@rocker8692 2 года назад

I'm going pooh.

@doncalloway136 Год назад

Well, really need to get rid of the fuzz tone . Cannot tell a thing about the purity of tone with fuzz tone..Fuzz tone is what you do when your amp stinks and you need to hide it.