Cinematic Excrement: Episode 101 - The Book Of Henry 

Hey it worked for the 5th Element

While I agree with most of your theory and this is a horrible movie, I feel like one getting saved from a dangerous situation that's out of one's control is inherently a "beggars can't be choosers" kinda deal. Abuse victims don't usually get to cherry pick how they get away from it, especially if we're talking about a kid.

I'd be interested to hear what an actual Henry thinks of the movie. After all, there are child geniuses out there. Its not just a media trope. I knew one growing up. He ended up double majoring in Arabic and Chinese

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There were special features on those things?

alaster boneman I think we wish he died halfway through the original 50 Shades

I think the book should never have been born. Or at least advanced beyond the original Twilight fanfic.

Rae J I don't know if I'd go that far, like if you killed everyone in the film than the whole city would be dead. And they hardly deserve that. And everyone seems to agree that the rest of Chistans family and Anna's room mate aren't complete scum so they can get a pass as well. Though the later flaking on her interview with the douche bag extreme putting the whole thing in motion so maybe we can send her to a abondoned island for a spell

This would actually be a really interesting story.

Sounds a lot better.

If you want to watch something like that I recommend “The Fallen Idol”

I would totally watch that crossover.

I'm a pretty easy movie watcher. Usually if I like an actor or actress, I'll find some sort of entertainment in the movie. I absolutely love Jacob Tremblay and Maddie so that was enough for me to get some enjoyment out of the movie. yeah the tone was questionable and the plot was weird but the acting was actually pretty good, especially from Maddie who had never done a movie before. So I accepted this movie for what it was walking into it and actually found some entertainment in it. So the 63% are probably made up of people like me and Dance Moms super fans

Also, I liked how the abuse was actually realistic.

It's like watching an edgy teenager write dramatic poetry. It's not deep or dramatic. It's hilarious.

Going off what the review presented, it was a nicely shot movie, and the Maddie Ziegler scene was legitimately beautiful to watch, and the child performances were solid. I wouldn't say it's one of the worst films ever, but for a return to smaller filmmaking after a mega-blockbuster like Jurassic World I sure didn't expect it to be this messy.

Maybe 63% of the american audience are just very pro "self-justice"... wouldn't surprise me actually :/

TheHeroOfTomorrow Heh! Funny... By they way, I saw you Kappa Mikey review earlier and I really liked on what you had to say about it. I used to watch it for fun...

I thought that you pronounce the title as a whispered gasp.

Oh, so it's more like Daffy Duck saying "Mother..." in Space Jam. :P

Mommie Dearest >>> mother!

SHort for "Motherfucker! What a weird movie!"

Like I often say, this movie *might* make for a decent psychological thriller, ie by basically acknowledging that Henry is creepy and possibly a psychopath LOL.

Sounds better than the actual movie.

Only if it’s in self-defense.

I see what you did there.

I guess that would explain how The Boss Baby got nominated.

Or why Brave won an oscar.

And why Captain Underpants didn't even get a nomination. That movie was loads better than Boss Baby.

That's true for Animated, but the Oscars are known to (somewhat deliberately) skew towards more "artsy" films. There's been some change, and at least lip-service in their up to 10 nominations for Best Picture, but look at how Wall-E and Dark Knight were snubbed for 2008.

タッカーTucker You could say the same thing for any award show! They all focus on mainstream stuff

Rae J That last sentence reminded me of Justin Chatwin and makes me sad.

To be honest I liked this feel BECAUSE of how they realistically portrayed the abuse.

LavenousForever I can see where you're coming from. But does that explain the alleged bruises Henry mentioned? It could very well be both. Abusive behaviors don't have to occur on a daily basis in order to be considered abuse.

Avalasia Love i mean as horrible it is to think about, if she tried to fight it at any point that could have caused bruises. Or even if he grabbed her arms hard to hold her down or something. That could bruise her arms. That would explain why she’s always wearing long sleeves and the fact that we don’t necessarily see the bruises. Now she does wear the leotard while she dances which exposes her arms so i do think they should have at least added some small bruises to her arms or back. So yeah, it’s not a perfect theory, that’s just how i viewed it

LavenousForever Honestly, I think you did a better job explaining than this movie did.

Maybe Henry didn't die in that Script too.

I have a theory. Well, it's not really my theory, it's extrapolated from Folding Idea's video on Book of Henry. Remember, the mom doesn't KNOW about Henry's stock money until after he dies, but in the film, before Henry gets stick... they live in a nice house, in a nice neighborhood, and the mom is THERE for her kids. They explicitly talk about how the family can AFFORD a newer car (with there being a running 'joke' about the mom insisting there's nothing wrong with the old car). She's about to take them to school and pick them up, help out with homework, there's NEVER any worry over Henry's medical bills after he gets sick, and that diner does NOT look like the place that's going to offer good insurance, so... So I think the family was already relatively well off. I think the house and car were already paid for. I think the mom works at the diner because whatever nest egg she has -- possibly from the death or her husband -- would run out if they were just flat out living off it, but... the family is FINE. If we take the Doyalist perspective... this is a bit of a plot hole caused by the script being written and re-written over the course of 20 years, with the writer not stopping to think that the "Kid Genius Saves The Family From Financial Ruin" plot beat doesn't work unless you show that the family is ACTUALLY struggling.

This is one of those movies with a message that’s well meaning but horribly misguided.

Eh, with the benefit of hindsight, I can understand why the movie strayed away from depicting the abuse, even if it went too far in not showing any kind of specifics. Movies centering on abuse have to walk a fine line between tastefully depicting an abusive situation and either reveling in depictions of it or overdoing it so much that it becomes unintentionally comedic. This movie definitely suffers from being too vague on how Maddie Ziegler's character is being abused, but with a screenplay this deranged, it easily could've veered into the total opposite direction. I don't think there's really a good way for a story this ineptly written to properly depict its subject matter without a complete overhaul of the basic plot.

Certainly a more accurate Light Yagami than that jackass in the Netflix movie.

ooof

The Book Of Light.

This feels like a horror or thriller script that accidentally ended up in the wrong bin.

Hey! At least Light had an epiphany resulting in the spree, lived long enough to go nuts, and got a fitting punishment (Being shot in the hand/enduring multiple gunshots depending on which version you go with and having his name end up in said black note book)! Henry died before he could watch his work come true, _and_ this plan is a waste of time, money and talent! Seriously, Henry could've used that talent to build a time machine, go back in time, and kill Hitler, preventing WW2- *Oh, crap I just remembered the last time that someone tried that, it didn't go so well:* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bq1JhGNKs1s.html

Funny you should say that. It was GOING to be a black comedy at one point.

@Lola Montez A FAAAAAAAAAAMILY Pictchah!

It could have also potentially made for a decent psychological thriller if they acknowledge that Henry might be a little sociopath. Like the next Rhonda Penmark or something

I know this is a bit late but wtf!!!

I think Chris Hansen would like a word with that woman.

best part of the whole movie

MOTHER!

Cause Janice in accounting don't give a fuck

That was the best song in Rocky Horror!

Stephen Taylor No, Ryan Johnson was the reason.

I might be remembering wrong, but didn't he leave Star Wars himself?

My real question is ... now I am curious to see the alternate co-existing timeline where he did get to do The Last Jedi. What were his ideas for it? I'm seriously curious! If it was like TBoH then could it have actually made TLJ we did get look better in comparison? BOGGLES THE MIND :D

You have to be high or have a spite boner if you think the director of this mess could have made The Last Jedi "better".

Johnson and Kennedy wanted to kill Luke before episode IX, Trevorrow and Hamill wanted him alive. Trevorrow and Hamill weren't the director and producer of episode VIII though so they were overruled. Get your story straight.

Exactly. The Razzies are and always have been a joke.

Yeah, there’s a good movie in there somewhere. Shame it’s buried under a ridiculous and tonally inconsistent mess.

That movie had godawful editing, but in other respects was fine.

Actually it's bad in terms of series continuity as well, even more than most of the previous ones in the series.

Said no Batman villain, ever.

I liked Mother!

AmishParadise27 (AKA: Tyler) MAHGOD!

That is the problem. You should be voting on the quality of the film compared to other films.

Oh, so the mainstream critics are upset that "The Emoji Movie" is too mainstream and so you are going with the mainstream to judge a film instead of comparing it's quality with other films. O_o

ColeYote Dude. The Emoji Movie is a dumb movie on screen for under an hour. It didn't give you cancer or cause the apocalypse. It's okay to not like the movie, but not be a snob about it.

I agree. That movie was sickening. Allowing movies like that to succeed us going to turn Hollywood into even more of a trend-chasing garbage machine.

Then the Razzies need to create a "Greatest Affront to All That is Good and Holy" award.

I think the movie was trying to point out the difference between smart and wisdom. Like they were trying to show that no matter how smart he is, at the end of the day he's still a child and he will think and react as such because he doesn't have the wisdom that an adult would have just from living their life. Kind of a confusing message and they don't do that good of a job showing it, but that's how I interpreted it

Perhaps Henry just prefers permanent solutions. After all, stepdad can't hurt anybody if he's dead.

Having watched this movie recently, I think the book and the plan to murder her stepfather were both a major red herring. He had tried other ways to stop this man from abusing Christina. He told the Principal at school....he reported it to CPS. Nobody would listen to him and because the man was the police commissioner and he was just a kid, and they wouldn't do anything without proof. The way I interpreted the ending (the Mom following Henry's detailed plan to murder the stepfather, and the Principal watching Christina do her beautiful dance and choosing in this moment to protect her...I think in both instances, it was THEIR choice to act. That moment, where her eyes lock with Christina's and she finally reacts and calls the police...it is in this moment, when she sees Christina dancing (and notice, throughout the movie, Christina is wearing long sleeves and her long hair falls over her face. When she is dancing, her arms are bare and her hair is pulled back in a bun....and I'm sure the Principal saw the bruises and scars that she had tried to hide for so long...she saw the unvarnished pain in this child's eyes and it is in this moment that she realizes Henry was telling her the truth when he came to her all those times pleading for her to protect this innocent child. I think THAT was the point of Henry's red book. He never REALLY wanted his mother to kill the stepdad. He ONLY wanted Christina to be saved. That's why the mouse-trap, ball thing went off when the mother was hiding there, waiting for the perfect moment to kill this guy. NOTICE what happened in that moment....the ball hit the wall and revealed a series of photographs, ALL of Henry when he was a little boy. She realizes the truth in this moment...that her son was just a child and not this perfect ideal of a man that his mother made him out to be. The relationship between Henry and his mother was not a typical mother/son relationship. He was definitely the parent in that house, and she was the child...and when Henry was gone, this was his final gift to her....the realization that now, SHE has to step up and be the parent and protect Christina and her other son. She can't rely on Henry to take care of everything anymore....she has to be the Mom now.

I completely agree I always look forward to his next episode and how does he have only 20k its been 8 years

cat foy Honestly! It’s such an injustice. So much work goes into these videos. He deserves so much more...

You're saying that a fetishist Twilight fanfic is inherently better than a kids' movie based on cute emoticons? I disagree.

i... uh... what?

We were all thinking it, so we didn't need to say it.

Anyone who saw King Kong will agree with that.

Rollercoaster Rider and watch try to commit murder.

Let It Go :)

Neither movie was that bad. I especially give leeway to Rise considering that movie was written and directed by angry Twitter users instead of the people who made it.

It shows the Razzies was always worthless.

Well, Kubrick basically ran Duvall ragged and terrified her so that she would be more convincing....

@@andrewollmann304 The nomination was for worst director, not worst person, and a lot of the behind-the-scenes abuse Kubrick subjected his actors to wasn't known publicly at the time of the first Razzies ceremony.

But besides photography students, photographers, and old people, who the hell would own a polaroid in a more modern setting.

@@magnatcleo2043 Maybe Henry is a hipster on top of being a super genius and a potential serial killer.

Don't forget Lee Pace as well.

Saw it on twitter hi and first