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Cone area & port area/understanding Cone area is king 

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An example of cone area in relation to port area using two different enclosure’s to show a visual reference. Bass is the movement of air. Who ever moves the most air is the loudest all other factors being equal.
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@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 3 года назад
Exactly! If you want big bass you need a big box with big woofers and big ports.
@TheChcam
@TheChcam Месяц назад
I made a box for 2w7s 12s tiny port, it has almost no port noise. And gets loud and low as fuck. Hits harder on 1500w than my sundown zv6 18 with a big ass box and big ass port. Idek how or why
@Chino0420
@Chino0420 19 дней назад
@@TheChcamproof 😅
@TheChcam
@TheChcam 19 дней назад
@@Chino0420 I can do that. I'll post a video later
@TheChcam
@TheChcam 19 дней назад
@@Chino0420 I'm not kidding it sounds super clean and does like 15hz well
@bigbabykirven
@bigbabykirven 3 года назад
Dammit boy those boxes are bad ass, but that kicker quad box is insane!!! Man I wanna hear that succa playing!!!
@jamesd493
@jamesd493 2 года назад
Bass is to be HEARD. Bass is not SEEN. Facts! I subscribed to your channel and thumbs up immediately after this line. I am old now. My crew was pushing bass in our cars/suvs in the late 80's. Much respect for your knowledge and skills.
@justScrollin0627
@justScrollin0627 3 года назад
Great to see you being able to do what you obviously enjoy doing and doing it well👊💯
@Big_Bambu
@Big_Bambu 3 года назад
Can’t wait till next weekend! Ready to see that box in person.
@vincentlara1994
@vincentlara1994 3 года назад
Loving That horn box You made for those Db drive G5 8 inch subs sounds really good
@marshgatelaneposse
@marshgatelaneposse 11 месяцев назад
A man who understands why a 75 mm baffle is so important gets my vote top notch work
@josephmuniz9959
@josephmuniz9959 3 года назад
You make some really pretty boxes my man. Those are super smooth looking. Would love to hear them
@angelvip2474
@angelvip2474 3 года назад
Great video great explanation.👍
@thamenacechris
@thamenacechris 3 года назад
@MBEnclosures LLC thank you for the knowledge
@thamenacechris
@thamenacechris 3 года назад
S.L.A.B. = Slow Loud And Bangin
@penakepaa3647
@penakepaa3647 3 года назад
Sick box bro keep making videos like this I’ll be watching n learning
@Beatdesignersofficial
@Beatdesignersofficial 8 месяцев назад
That joint looks dope.
@rellyrell5409
@rellyrell5409 3 года назад
Oh yes! As soon as I get my 3 or4 subs I'll be contacting u about getting me a box out here in cali!!! Love ur chanel, no favorites and how a regular everyday person would play vs the people who do competitions and the difference between the two and why they metered higher or whatever they be preaching!!!
@davidspl
@davidspl 3 года назад
Good info brother on your video content 👌 keep the good work 👍
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 3 года назад
10:45 is at least 12 ft^3 net because of the need to include or factor in the deep ass cutouts which will add an extra cubic foot even with the drivers being installed. Most builders don't account for this which is why their tuning/peak freq ends up being different then what was intended when removing the vehicles cabin peak freq from the equation. Also, using deep ass cutouts (aka 3+ baffles) begins to restrict airflow from behind the subwoofer on the bottom side of the baffle. Think about it. Air would need to be pushed straight down rather than out to the sides as with double baffles which is why I prefer using bracing over 3-4 baffles. Just some food for thought for viewers to keep in mind when building.
@banshee420100
@banshee420100 2 года назад
Just like old school sound systems low power but a lot of "cone area" with deep crushing bass or like concert P/A systems cone area, cone area, cone area, cone area. I have a 200 wat 1989 soundstream amp it has pushed everything from 400w 8s to 900w 12s and they were skar is gets sound out real good
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 3 года назад
I enjoy the info you produce
@highgoals4204
@highgoals4204 3 года назад
Doing the same today. Im taking out my evl d4 12s and putting my kicker d4 compvx12s . What I have pick up on is i will use less power with the kickers but have more output. Mostly cause of the cone area difference. There is a 1000 rms watts difference between each pairs kicker being the most efficient. Plus I need to go easy on my alternator before I end up buying a new alternator sooner than I planned.
@brick2077
@brick2077 3 года назад
Those evls will do way better then those kickers
@abdomination
@abdomination 3 года назад
I should road trip from Seattle up that way. Get my box sized up perfect lol. I got friends not too far and a lot on the way.
@gavinmcclure8047
@gavinmcclure8047 2 года назад
I just realized your in Georgia. I've been looking for someone to build me a box for my 1988 Isuzu trooper. I removed the rear seats so I have plenty of room. Just haven't decided on the subwoofers I want to go with I have everything else. My goal is to just have the most bandwidth possible. I listen to all types of music.
@dcole808
@dcole808 3 года назад
Facts...SIMPLE IS GOOD....PERIOD!!!!!!
@JayBeezy31
@JayBeezy31 10 месяцев назад
Bro,, please try to annunciate your words man, you said a kicker what will hit 150 decibels??? I’m seriously trying to learn and you are a national treasure my friend, much love from Arkansas, I just need a damn translator bro because I have to rewind to try to understand what you are saying!! Love this man’s attitude! God working in this man’s life
@bhowell95
@bhowell95 3 года назад
Have you seen the new kickers for 2021? They posted a video. They look pretty nice
@keithzaczek1
@keithzaczek1 3 года назад
There's the OG class is in session 📓✏
@freddyproductions1349
@freddyproductions1349 3 года назад
Already 💯📝
@rexlysailas4215
@rexlysailas4215 2 года назад
Dame brother.. U got it good 😇👌👍
@mikevenz1331
@mikevenz1331 Год назад
I’d say cone are is king but as is flex. Umm not 100% on this but if cone are is 3mm bigger then the other sub but the other sub flexes an extra 3mm which one is really better or would they be equal. Be an interesting experiment all other factors being equal. Love your channel. I have learned more from watching your videos in the last 5ish months than from anything else and I’m damn near 40 now so your channels just awesome
@chrisholmes2888
@chrisholmes2888 3 года назад
dam u do good work on boxes
@user-gx7ec5bj1y
@user-gx7ec5bj1y 5 месяцев назад
Damm nice job on them boxes bro what recommendations for apair of 15 u series sundowns going on a 1999 yukon sle
@justinhiggins2210
@justinhiggins2210 2 года назад
There is a misconception about how sound travels. The air doesn't move from one location to another. Instead the Soundwave generated by the woofer ( or tweeter also infact) gives it's energy to the air and the air molecules gives its energy to the air right next to it that's why you can put a shirt or hair in a windo rolled down and it will stay in place instead of flying away. Just a little bit of useless information about sound and how it travels. Great video man, keep them coming.
@hector9160
@hector9160 3 года назад
Thats so true , I seen some systems that look so good exposed but they sound like shit , if they are 12s they sound like 8s or not even a good 8 inch lol 😂
@diantrecreagh3269
@diantrecreagh3269 3 года назад
I was waiting for a video like this from you I wanted to know if I could get away with 2 4 inch diameter aeroports instead of 1 8 inch aeroport for 2 audiopipe bdc4 12s on 4k rms I used 2 4inch aeroports for a single 15 build and it sounds really good but on the lower frequencies like 25 down to 16 hz I can hear chaffing noises or like too much air trying to be pushed out
@DTW-bx2vy
@DTW-bx2vy 3 года назад
What you are actually hearing at those lower frequencies is the mechanical movement of the spider, air moving threw the venting holes in the basket located by the voice coil, & air moving threw the venting in the end of the magnets motor structure. In all honesty a larger port would not help with the port noise issue at lower Hz frequencies, being it is the Audiopipe - TXX-BDC4 12" subwoofer's design flaws that are causing the problem. Take both subs out of the enclosure & run them free-air to be able to hear if the problem still exists when you play at 25Hz down to 16Hz. I bet it is the subwoofer instead of your port size causing the sound your hearing. Let me know if that was the issue causing the problem.
@diantrecreagh3269
@diantrecreagh3269 3 года назад
@@DTW-bx2vy I dont have that setup anymore but definitely was the subs I apparently tore the formar off the spider playing them that low on too much power everyday. Look at my vids now and see what im rocking now
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 3 года назад
13:00 fedex will ship large enclosures for $250ish based off what Concept Enclosures charges.
@ropatitoi7871
@ropatitoi7871 3 года назад
Hey brotha . So I got a chevy classic Silverado 4 dr and I wanted to put it on my back seat... so in ur opinion would I be better to have my 15s facing up the roof or face it forward towards front windshield? Thanks man ur opinion would be appreciated.!
@jimmiebeamon1181
@jimmiebeamon1181 3 года назад
Have you ever done motorcycle audio. For example. Harleys. Or modified Harley saddlebags?
@jeramiebentley4054
@jeramiebentley4054 Год назад
I have 2 boxes for my meso 12. One is 1.7 net (prefab) with a 3" precision port 10 inches long tuned to approx 31hz. that's like 7 sq inches of port area. I have another box I built 2 cubic feet net with a slot port area of 33 square inches tuned to 33 hz, CT sounds wants 1.5 net with 40square inches and that seems impossible in sub box pro. port is like 4 foot long. the small 3" port gets low and sounds better overall. the bigger box may hit slightly harder near tuning but the smaller port is crisp and punchy. My steering wheel shakes with only 7 square inches. Also this is in a crew cab f-150 so I can hear everything with no port noise.. Makes no sense.
@rhurtadorh32
@rhurtadorh32 Год назад
I have a sub box for 4 15 subs with a slot port of 3 inches wide and 2 feet long. Would that be enough port area? Or do i have to make it bigger?
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 3 года назад
How do you cut 45s for box without table saw? Use circular saw with 45 degree angle and a wide board since its difficult to do on a narrow few inch board? Tips/tricks?
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Don’t waste your time with 45’s.. no difference with a box with or without one. No programs accounted for it.... none... it’s just Bass myth. Air is like water it will go where there is the least resistance. But putting them in won’t hurt either. If you want them do it, but it does nothing other than shrink the original volume you had at first
@RyanBassForLife
@RyanBassForLife 3 года назад
Your right
@wm.griffin2237
@wm.griffin2237 3 года назад
Man u cold as ice.
@adriangordon1996
@adriangordon1996 3 года назад
What do you think would be louder hypothetically 3 12" Kicker CVR or 1 15" Skar ZVX? I currently have the ZVX in a custom box tuned around 28hz. I have the kickers from an old setup. Amp is an Skar RP2000. Zvx is wired at 1 ohm. the kickers would be wired at 2.67. Amp rated 1400@2ohm
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
The Skar because it would see more power than the 3 kicker...after impedance rise they would not move very much
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
The Skar would see more power and thusly move more air.. theoretically the 12’s would win but the ohm load to high so after impedance rise they would see very little power and so wouldn’t be moving the air they could. Under the right power they could destroy Skar.
@marcmachain8286
@marcmachain8286 3 года назад
Alright so I got 2 kicker L7 q class in a 7 cube box right now it's sealed but I want to put a port but I've been hesitating to cut it because I don't know how W" H" L" to make my 0ort... What you auggest
@shirleyjackson8325
@shirleyjackson8325 Год назад
BRO... YOUR VIDEOS ARE ON POINT... BUT HONESTLY... WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU... LOVE YOUR CHANNEL... AM A SUBSCRIBER... VALUE YOUR OUTPUT... PLEASE TURN UP THE VOLUME... I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOURE SAYING...
@laneyrinehart-eb1pn
@laneyrinehart-eb1pn Год назад
Yes!
@brucecobb7572
@brucecobb7572 3 года назад
You is a beast!!!💪🏾
@junk77hd
@junk77hd 2 года назад
I would like to get your opinion on a daul 15s box in my 95 Roadmaster sedan
@quincytrotman2002
@quincytrotman2002 3 года назад
The 4 12's of course
@rubenflores2870
@rubenflores2870 Год назад
Hello bro I am running I American bass XFL single 12 inch 2x2 it's 1500rms and the box that I'm using is a ground Shaker says 32 Hertz on got it from the company but my question is is that the right box for it I have a 2002 Dodge neon RT it's in back of my trunk facing towards the back and I have a JC power r3200.1d 1 channel amplifier monoblock I use a voltmeter to tune it 38.7 at 33hrz my question is I wanted to run a cone type port for it to hit harder than it is now would you be able to make me that box please let me know Ruben
@bigch718
@bigch718 3 года назад
i jus got 2 l7 12's with kicker enclosure included with it, you got me thinking if that enclosure is trash in comparison to yours
@bigch718
@bigch718 3 года назад
l7s not q class
@natskar
@natskar 2 года назад
That’s how I started feeling about mine too haha. Returned it, now I’m saving a bit to buy the box and subs separate
@randyward320
@randyward320 3 года назад
What are your thoughts on isobaric enclosures could you do a Video on something like that?
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 3 года назад
Imo, at this point it's very rare for isobaric to be worth it. The only exceptions would be in home theater. And that's just if you're wanting to port a super low ebp sub, without sacrificing half your living room
@95Sn95
@95Sn95 3 года назад
In spl how much does cabin size play a roll in final outcome? My bigger system (2x15 in ported 7 cube net enclosure on 2k amp) is in a 2010 grand caravan my little system 1 10" in ported 1.5 net on 1.2k amp) is in a 95 mustang gt convertible, obviously the caravan is bigger and badder in every way but on a woofer to thump ratio the mustang is easily more impressive. Your hair and clothes start vibrating at way lower volume levels in the mustang.
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Lol...you already have your answer. Cabin plays a part. When though more air is moving with the larger subs it’s in a bigger confined space it still should be louder, but if you put that same cone area in the mustang you be louder at lower volume levels because the confined space smaller theoretically... you could also lose by going to much cone area because the bass wave wouldn’t develop in such a small area with larger subs. That is why the 10” so impressive even though it not as loud as the 15’s
@cmorrow1980ify
@cmorrow1980ify Год назад
@@M.B.Enclosures your contact info?
@DJJDSKREWED
@DJJDSKREWED 3 месяца назад
depends on the vehicle , but with that said the bigger box gonna win
@ebaysnipa
@ebaysnipa 3 года назад
Would you rather power a set of DB drive 8’s g5 with a Rockford Fosgate Power T1500-1bdcp or a SUNDOWN AUDIO SFB-3000D @ 1900watts @ 2ohms? thank you
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
The Fosgate hands down
@ebaysnipa
@ebaysnipa 3 года назад
@@M.B.Enclosures thanks for your time Sir. salute
@JuanCastillo-cn4br
@JuanCastillo-cn4br 3 года назад
what set up would you recommend for 4 Sundown X8 V.3 dual 4ohms 800 watts to get the most out of it ?
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
You going to need alot of Power they notoriously inefficient. 😂 and a good box based on vehicle and desired tuning
@JuanCastillo-cn4br
@JuanCastillo-cn4br 3 года назад
@@M.B.Enclosures what would you recommend then? i want a very loud , loud as bass n clearness, system for my 09 silverado crewcab , i would like it to be able to fit under the back seats
@andrewwine10
@andrewwine10 2 года назад
Please make a video about aero ports
@loudelvis610
@loudelvis610 3 года назад
Make baffle solid... brace box....but most important.....attach box to car solid as hell...if whole box is vibrating and moving around in car loss of bass....TOTAL PACKAGE
@hoover274able
@hoover274able 3 года назад
Hey I have 4 DB Drive WDX G-2 12’s I have them on a PURE K5! What do you recommend that I wore them too..... And the amp is big as hell I really don’t no anything about them I think they went out of business or something.if you cold help me out and thanks a lot!
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Don’t know anything about that amp..
@hoover274able
@hoover274able 3 года назад
Yes that’s what a lot of people tell me I’m waiting to get a reply from Big D and Steave Meade? Thanks a lot and if you happen to find out anything about it would you make a let me no or make a video about it thanks a lot
@hoover274able
@hoover274able 3 года назад
I meant wire them down too 1 or 2 ohm
@EJChevy
@EJChevy 3 года назад
Man I gotta hit you up for a box, I'm wanting to run 4 8s in my truck.
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Text me at 404 694 4818
@donellis5005
@donellis5005 3 года назад
I want to hear the kicker for 12 box
@stompnucustoms2616
@stompnucustoms2616 2 года назад
3 days now i am learning so much. Ever want a custom knife I will give you an amazing deal. Shit I owe ya . Stomp
@duece2duce
@duece2duce Год назад
Do you do design and we build it if so how much
@orlandoprioleau8901
@orlandoprioleau8901 3 года назад
Like your enclosures alot man....can u shoot me a quote?
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Text me at 404 694 4818
@kevincooper8531
@kevincooper8531 Год назад
I need box. 1 have a heartz spl 300d I’m in California
@MegaRm85rider
@MegaRm85rider 3 года назад
What amp should I run for 2 - 41L7124? I currently have a Taramp HD3000 that I was planning on throwing on those wired down to 1ohm. What’s your thoughts or suggestions?
@monroewhite4621
@monroewhite4621 Год назад
Good afternoon where are you located at
@RollingThunder85
@RollingThunder85 Год назад
So what's idea if I can't get the thiel parameters for a 15in team god series untouchable sounds sub please help me bro
@milesbachelor8747
@milesbachelor8747 2 года назад
The box looks like an apartment
@shawntagrant107
@shawntagrant107 3 года назад
How much for an 8inch box for an 8inch skar audio evl speaker
@shawntagrant107
@shawntagrant107 3 года назад
What is your number
@nsane2249
@nsane2249 3 года назад
Why you not in tx
@mitchellburks4375
@mitchellburks4375 2 года назад
How much are the boxes again plus shipping?
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 2 года назад
I never said hire much the boxes are. All my enclosures custom
@mitchellburks4375
@mitchellburks4375 2 года назад
Yeah on one of ur videos I think u said boxes are $450. Plus I think u said $65. shipping with UPS. Can I contact u to get info on price. Excited to have on made.
@freddyproductions1349
@freddyproductions1349 3 года назад
Who tf is that!!! 😳🧐🙄👀📣🔊📢🔈💯💪
@msbelljones4677
@msbelljones4677 3 года назад
im text to order the big box
@michelbergeron3596
@michelbergeron3596 2 года назад
Hey can you please inbox me I don't know how to send pictures to you here also I need to talk to you about a custom box if you are still making them
@kevincooper8531
@kevincooper8531 Год назад
Can you build me a box I got Rockville 12 k9 600rms
@DjR3aper
@DjR3aper 3 года назад
4 sealed 10s 6000 rms 2 cu ft or 2 12s ported 2,500 rms 6 cu ft ?
@leonardjohnson1597
@leonardjohnson1597 3 года назад
Bro I need a box ASAP!
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Text 404 694 4818
@mickyashey9818
@mickyashey9818 3 года назад
I WISH EVERYONE WOULD ONLY MAKE VIDEOS WHEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY!!!!!!! TOO MANY IDIOTS JUST POSTING VIDEOS TO SEE THEMSELVES ONLINE¡!
@screwedup_ant
@screwedup_ant 11 месяцев назад
Building me a 18 in a slab 😏
@optimusprimer4392
@optimusprimer4392 Год назад
So go big or go home
@bpintogsxr1000
@bpintogsxr1000 3 года назад
Not exactly. It’s not all about cone area. If you look at the sundown x compared to its little brothers like the sa. It has less cone area. It also has to do with the Xmax and other factors.
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 года назад
Nope.
@cdracos1
@cdracos1 4 месяца назад
TV volume at 100%....still can't hear shit !
@youngmark123
@youngmark123 3 года назад
210lbs And No Subs Yet Dangggg😂😂😂
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 3 года назад
3:45 what a waste of money that is (Q-class imo) IF loud bass is his goal. Kicker = SQ, not loud deep bass unfortunately. I wonder if it'll even break a 150 dB sealed on glass.
@Big_Bambu
@Big_Bambu 3 года назад
Waste of money? That’s an opinion for sure. I am looking more for sq. I’m not worried if it goes to 150. Though we all know it’s gonna do much more.
@nicdudash9288
@nicdudash9288 3 года назад
@@Big_Bambu if your looking for sq a massive over sized box with a huge port isn’t best choice. A standard 12 calls for 2.25-2.5 cubes with the attention of running let’s say 500 watts for arguments sake, when you put that woofer in a 2.5 cube box (after displacement) that woofer is working just as hard as the box is, it’s at its peak efficiency. Now when you take the same woofer and put it in a small box say 1.75 the woofer will now be harder to push in that enclosure so in return now we put 1500 watts on it and now that woofer is over powering the enclosure and allowing it to handle that power with what’s called cone control when you tune a box at say 35hz it will play an octave higher and octave lower with the intention you have your port per square calculated correctly for a flat response. When you have a bigger enclosure it will start to drop db per frequency until it’s no longer audible and the woofer is about to jump out the box, it has now lost cone control. When you shrink that box down below recommended size say by hypothetical 20% below at those lower frequencies the woofer will have more cone control. I can keep babbling but where I’m going with this is don’t think because the box is 12 cubes for 4 12s that it’s just gonna sound better and more sq those 12s are gonna work there asses off with the power he said he will run on them and most likely be very peaky.
@Big_Bambu
@Big_Bambu 3 года назад
@@nicdudash9288 have u looked at the specs for sq on the kicker webpage? It calls for 3.25 cubes per sub for sq, with a port of 3x13.
@nicdudash9288
@nicdudash9288 3 года назад
@@Big_Bambu and I ask when has kicker ever won a sound quality comp? There is a reason they sold out to Walmart and Kmart. Can they sound good? Sure to someone that hasn’t heard true sound quality but in my many years of being in car audio I have yet to hear a kicker woofer that I was just beside myself at how it sounded. And 3.5 cubes for a 12 is wayyy too big that woofer is practically free airing in the box. There is a reason that 99.9% of other manufacturers recommend 2.25-2.5 cubes for a 12 and I say 99.9% because the .1% is kicker that doesn’t agree 🤔
@Big_Bambu
@Big_Bambu 3 года назад
@@nicdudash9288 u sure ask a lot of questions. Here is a question for u. Are u that worried about my system that U have to give complete dissertations on why u think it will not sound up to your level of expertise? This is my system. I’m building it the way that I want it to sound. Did u ever take that into consideration?
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