This guy got $23.5 million, but the elderly gentlemen in Louisville who had his rights violated and face slammed into his concrete patio for doing nothing more than opening his front door only got $250,000... This clown world is getting old fast
@@albertoortega121he actually didn’t get 23 million he was awarded that from suing the officer directly. The city only awarded 5 million. Not to mention two different situations one involved multiple systemic errors one was just shitty officers
@@RealCoachMustafa - Yes. She can conduct employment as usual during the week, she reports either Friday night or Saturday morning, and gets out Sunday evening. Absolutely laughable.
Parents give more serious punishment (than that) to their children when they mess up with the purpose of learning, this one is just for the eyes of the people just to say "we did punish them".
They wouldn't have awarded a citizen anything. Also they would've charged a citizen with 'resisting arrest' and 'assault on an officer' as a pretext for the beating if the citizen dared to challenge it in court.
@@iamgabriel5823 it's because you are a racist. Nobody asked you to feel bad for the guy or even asked you how you felt in the first place, but you went out of your way to tell everyone how you felt, which makes it look like you don't like the guy for a reason and there are only a few reasons as to why that could be. He did nothing wrong but was beaten like a dog and then the people that beat him laughed about it and called him a n***** while texting each other after they knew he was a police officer.
Is it bad that I look at this and go 23 million for a beating. Idk my dad was killed and I’m told best we can get is 3 million. Yes the organization who did this to us has lied repeatedly and blamed others. Heck I got deposed and I basically listened to the other side insult me once calling me a slur and making it sound like I should be happy about it. They also said if Inwas such a loving daughter I should have gotten to the scene faster; I was in school 12 hours away at the time and I took the first flight I could get because no one would let me drive it. They deposed my mother and insinuated the incident was her fault because she wasn’t there and was at work. Asking irrelevant questions about their marriage. Like I don’t want to sound greedy but I’m trying to understand how years of gross negligence by an organization that put not just adults but kids at risk ultimately leading to at least one death maybe more (waiting for reports) is considered more forgiving than this. Like does that make sense all?
Well said. Cops are the same as people, you have good and bad. There was no evidence of any good in these five. I could, maybe, see how the female officer felt the pressure to not be a snitch to protect her career and her livelihood, paying your mortgage, bills and keeping groceries in the pantry are strong motivators. Then in the end they all lost their jobs and and future careers anyway.
The craziest part is how light the cops sentence for lying to the FBI. That's a federal crime and she still gets a slap on the wrist, you can't claim it's a local issue when even the federal courts give cops special treatment.
@@John-f8e2y Far more then any donuts munching flat foot and if i lied to CID during an investigation into assault of a fellow officer i'd have gotten a lot worse then two weeks.
If he were a pedestrian passing through to get to or from work, or if he were a peaceful protestor, etc, then they would've gotten away with it - and that's what's truly messed up. Too many cops don't understand our rights or don't respect our rights as American citizens.
as black, black citizens. there wouldn't be such a heinous beat down if a white protestor, (not saying it doesnt happen, but less likely) or there wouldnt be a cover up if it did.
No they do. But they're affected by years of people lying to them, faking that they're hurt, actively assaulting and trying to unalive them... they stop being about protect and serve and start being about venting and frustration. Then you have the demographic that were always bullies and sociopaths/psychopaths, that's not unique to the force.
Its weird that this story is being told like him being undercover changes anything. So if he was a citizen it wouldnt matter as much? No matter what his job is, he was doing nothing wrong, and he got gang jumped by cops. No innocent person deserves that. This is why we have so few good journalists nowadays. Its to damn dangerous. Dont get it twisted either, the people in charge want it this way.
It does matter. This proves that it's not a matter of noncompliance with officers, because even an undercover officer who would know the compliance procedures was screamed at and beaten by the riot police. You might say "that was obvious before this happened" but this is an undeniable, extreme example. Sometimes we need stories like this before change starts to happen on legislative levels.
As usual F the taxpayers. This is absolutely ridiculous, end qualified immunity and go after the Police Pension Fund if you want to see change in behavior. Accountability enacts change!
@@HostileTakeover555 It doesnt matter the amount, the taxpayer's need to say enough is enough and put a stop to this nonsense. Even the the 5 million from the city is ridiculous. And the mentality of insurance handles it, is absolutely laughable sorry. Left and right insurance companies are cutting the purse strings and running. Police have been violating the rights of citizens since the invention of police. They need to be held accountable and do their jobs with proper training.
@@HostileTakeover555 Lol, whose money do you think pays the insurance premiums? You think insurance just pays out $23M settlements w/o increasing premiums? Especially when no fault is admitted, meaning no procedures are changed, meaning it's just as likely to happen again.
There was no qualified immunity in this case, hence the award. Although I'm not sure eliminating it entirely makes any sense. It's already enough to staff a police force to handle major crimes in 2024, you start nuking qualified immunity entirely and you might as well admit we're just going to have citizen police (which historically speaking are worse). And yeah, unfortunately the taxpayers ultimately pay in this scenario.
Nate! You keep speaking about this from the perspective of the undercover cop who got beat and how the department had an operation but didn't protect its own. This should be about how easily it comes to police to beat people they believe are not cops and the lengths to which they will protect the department. This story is about how the police nearly beat a man to death and tried to cover it up. This department is corrupt from top to bottom. And THAT's the story. This wasn't a training issue; this is a corruption issue.
@@bnegs521 Protests, by their nature, infringe on others. Not on their rights, but on their comfort. That's the point of a protest. To disturb. The problem is too many people consider disturbances as "infringement on their rights".
How about the people that get beaten and don't have this recourse?? It should not matter that he was a cop. Cops need better training and should be vetted in a more rigorous manner. Poor guy got a taste of what other people have had to endure.
It's not training, that's a copout. "Don't beat people", yeah need a 3 day seminar to teach them that? It's recruiting mostly and not dealing with people getting addicted to the power and adrenaline rush.
@@slappy8941 Bro it's 2024, Police are beating protestors to within an inch of their lives and shooting citizens dead and you're in the comments correcting grammar? Get a FKN life!!! Did I spell that correctly?
No, that was against one of the officers involved, the city paid $5 million. None of the $23 million would come from taxes. Anything that he gets from that settlement will be from the officer that he sued.
@@crazy916 I acknowledged the $5 million from tax dollars. The OP stated that the $23 million was from tax dollars. I was refuting that, not the $5 million. Five is a lot less than 23.
The fact that they beat hall because he was a protestor speaks volumes. Because they thought he was a protestor. If he was a cop they wouldnt have beat him. Isnt this an admission of violating protestors rights? Smh
@@MaryReese-oy8is Was he rioting? No, he's a cop and clearly wasn't rioting anything genius so obviously everyone there wasn't there to riot! Clearly there were people there to protest EXACTLY what happened here so how about keeping your blame on the people who actually did something here.. THE POLICE!! They killed a guy, they beat up a cop and you attack the protestors?? I'll be here all day if you'd like to continue making yourself look like an idiot.
LOLOL “protestor”. This was a riot. Did you missed the part where he was documenting property damage??? I’m sorry do protest usually cause property damage
It is not poor training and poor tactics, it is THE tactic used in every big protest. Even here in Europe people have filmed undercover agents getting dropped off with a undercover car, joining a protest and turning the protest into riots and thus giving the police justifiable reason to act. They just didn't recognize he was one of their own.
They don't always need it. Sometimes they'll just make a cavalry charge on horse back at the protesters. Even if the protesters are not even protesters. A bunch of old age pentioners out to celebrate St. Georges day are simply labelled "far right" and that's all the excuse they need.
@@KenFullman I can see only this one from you, I can see both my comments but the main comment isn't showing publicly to anyone but me. And I had a mine of infinite knowledge to share with you all 🤣 I'm used to it now, I can always tell by the comment count if my comment is hidden, got another warning off them today accusing me of " hate crime" against community guidelines , didn't tell me which comment it actually was, but yeah. Dictatorial censorship and overreach for sure. Abusing civil and constitutional rights r.e free speech and the right to protest.
As a truck driver I have had several encounters with the SLPD. What they did not know is that I used to be a trooper in a highway patrol in a neighboring state. I always asked to show me the exact law or ordinance that they are required to have in their cruiser. Yet they refused to admit they never used it or carried it. Yep, I didn't even have to go to court to have any charges dropped, all it took was a visit to the court clerks office and a five minute interview with a judge. Yep, I was a troubleshooter in the US Army and can prove incompetence with a little research.
Such a shame that the left exacerbates these department problems with all their nonsensical "solutions", like defunding, strengthening the union, DEI, etc.
There should be some kind of low that requires reporters to say "The taxpayers have to pay $23.5 million" instead of "The city has to pay $23.5 million".
That judgment was against one of the officers involved, the city paid $5 million. None of the $23 million would come from taxes. Anything he gets from that settlement will be from the officer he sued.
And they also did not ask why he volunteered to do it. If the police officer that got beat up felt like he was in danger he could have very easily just said I'm not doing it stick it up your ass
Undercover is fairly common and legal, as long as they don't break the law in the process its perfectly fine. The real question is, why is it that only if he is an undercover cop that he manages to push past qualified immunity and get $5m from the city and 23.5m verdict from the cops?
Major problems, when you lower the standards for who becomes a cop you get a lower caliber of a cop. The department did not keep their cops safe by monitoring them and these men didn’t know he was there. This whole issue is horrible. This should have never happened because the Department is to blame on many levels
Genius things like this happen when you defund the police. A lot of people told everyone else that things like this would happen when you defund the police. But St Louis still chose to defund the police. If anyone is to blame it's St Louis for defunding the police making police officers quit being police because people did not appreciate them putting their lives on the line for others. Sorry but if someone is willing to put their life on the line to keep you safe then you should respect them
Nah, he would get false charges filed against him, resisting arrest and obstruction seem to be common ones that cops can pin on anyone with their word.
@@Necrotic99 exactly what would happen. They are extortionists who will do whatever it takes to make sure we know who is in charge. With such fragile egos they will wreck innocent lives of anyone who isn’t one of them.
There were hundreds of protesters/rioters and most of them were black citizens. Were any others beaten like this? Or was he a marked man for some other reason they are not telling us? He has lighter skin than most of the protesters/rioters there. And he was only filming (supposedly).
@@bobl703the difference is the gang members could tell he was alone. Other people in the protests and these taxpayer subsidized gang members were looking to beat up a random person, not get into a fight with dangerous people that could actually hurt them.
This is scary as heck. I know during the pandemic in central Dallas there were massive protest and glass breaking and police were out in full tactical gear. All because an officer illegally entered another persons home believing it was their home and shot them dead in the victims home. The officer was released and riots went rampant. I had to pick up my roommate that night from the federal building and i had cops point rifles at me trying to leave my apartment building saying they would kill me if i exit through the only legal exit we had. I am a disabled veteran and wasn't apart of the riots and was being threatened. I didn't leave the house for weeks afterwards and my roommate worked remote till the chaos settled down.
My man is missing the point they didn’t need to know undercover police were in the crowd. Just treat everyone like a human and you should be able to justify your actions
come on nate, this doesn't say police need more protections. It says when police violence occurs it should be independantly investigated by a truly independant organization with actual power behind it to bring bad cops to justice.
As someone whose father is a cop and has an entire family of police officers this angers me to no end. If you cannot do the job of a police officer do not be a police officer. My heart goes out to the victim who was doing his job and his brothers in arms did not stand by him and violated their own oaths. Shame on them
My grandfather was a cop in the 50s, mom said he'd tell jokes at the dinner table about the people he beat up that day. When I was briefly in the Explorers program as a kid the chief of police took me to a local bar for dinner and had a convo with his friend about giving his wife a black eye. I really feel like police families put on two different personas depending on who they're talking to, because in public they all talk about taking the higher ground, but in private it's the exact opposite...
Accountability is not a crime but covering it up is. When will these people learn that truth and accepting responsibility for your actions can give you credence.
He will never seen anywhere near any of his awarded monetary judgments. None of those former officers he sued, will ever be able to pay, nor probably accept true full responsibility.
@@ssgemactv I didn't get that much and I got a big German Shepard bite mark in my face when I was 3. I don't even get access to my money for a few more years because of how my state ran my case.
Exactly what settlement are you talking about? Yes the citizens with their taxes will be paying the 5 million. But the 23 million settlement will only be paid by one officer tax dollars have nothing to do with the 23 million settlement
Same thing happened to me in a speak easy raid in Manchester, I had been working undercover in the unlicensed club. I got battered by a TAG (tactical Aid Group Police unit) member and spent 3 weeks off work, all I got was a paper commendation for doing the obs for the raid and nothing for my injuries.👿
@@vuton7670how did the police officer that was beaten up turn this into a riot went on video as you can see all he's doing is walking down the street not even talking to anyone
$23 million is an insanely large sum for a city as poor as St Louis. At some point we won't have police. If these lawsuits are not curtailed. Compensation, yes. These lottery checks, no. This country desperately needs tort reform.
@@bwill123 after something of that nature, they probably don’t even have a pension. That’s one thing you lose when you’re charged and convicted of something that serious. Do y’all even think about these things before y’all comment?
@@Mr.3500TX Sorry, so their funds they made in their accounts to this point just disappears in these circumstances, or does it get redirected back into the department?
The part that steams me is the woman lying. I can understand the male officers losing their cool in a stressful, frightening situation. I'm not approving, but I understand it. But after the fact when you have time to think, you have to do the right thing. There is no excuse at that point.
why is it, that the argument is always "it was a stressful situation" for behaving that way? If it were a regular citizien that would be alright, but unless you are unexpectedly under fire i exspect trained police officers to keep their cool and act according to their training. Why is literally every police force in a first world country able to do that, but US officers are not?
Love the way the media are soooooo fucking cautious about telling it like it is. They make it clear that they don't find anything unusual or wrong about the idea that this happens to regular folk all the time.
Genius the victim will never see the 23 million like it stated in the video. Do you think that one police officer that was told to pay 23 million has 23 million
Damn this is a lose/lose/lose situation. They basically admit they beat folk for fun or they admit they instigated some of these "protests" To make it worst, we end up flipping the bill. It's the legendary triple wammy.
Do you even know the difference from a protest and a riot. This was no protest this was a riot. You do understand that standing in a public road and blocking it is against the law. And damaging other people's property is also against the law. You're basically saying if a group of people protest outside of your house and they destroy your house it's okay because they were protesting.
@@piouspigeon9327yup, I really believe that undercover agents start the issues and then let mob mentality carry the rest. We saw videos of undercover cops breaking windows and leading people to be violent. They are not solely responsible for the damages done but they are part of the problem
When they do this to a civilian the damages are far lower and that’s after they have to beat the bogus charges laid against them. This is what they do every day to innocent civilians and the city ONLY gets concerned when they find it’s one of their own. It should have been more than three on trial, everybody involved in the cover up should have charged, the systemic corruption in this department is beyond belief.
Like he said, it's more than the money, which like you said, he's not likely to see any of. It's the cops actions afterwards, the cover up, that's what displayed, they are in the wrong job. This was a cop that got beaten up, what justice would a civilian have got, who was not breaking into shops, but just peacefully protesting.
Always find it funny when people who are allowed to legally lie to civilians, with impunity.....get in trouble for lying💯😂Even funnier that they only get in trouble when they lie to each other....
Sorry but you're obviously pretty ignorant. There is no law saying people cannot lie no matter what your job is. The only law there is when it comes to being a police officer and lying applies to your basic rights. If a police officer is lying to a suspect about their basic rights then the police officer may get in trouble. A police officer can say anything they want to anybody as long as they don't lie to you about your basic rights. Sorry but you're basically against freedom of speech.
@@SaltStorm007 You're obviously a low life non-thinking troll. Please show me the law where it says no one is allowed to lie. As far as I know a police officer cannot lie to you about your basic rights. Also it is against the law to lie while a person is under oath. Sorry but you're obviously not very smart
You can beat me for $100K, and you can probably beat me down to half that 😁Man, that's horrendous tho, their text messages are sickening. These are the guys we give guns and pay to be FAIR 😥
Colletta needs to be in PRISON for at least ONE year, have her license to be an officer revoked permanently and be forbidden from testifying in any trial on behalf of the government. She committed PERJURY.
IKR. Ok he got roughed up and deserves to be compensated. Can we maybe give him something realistic instead of draining even more out of the money from the police department. Ya ya. I'm mean. blah blah blah... Let me ask you this. Do you think they will do a better job at hiring good police officers with a debt of 23.5. Or do you think they will do an even worse job?
The question should be; Would a black person who is not a undercover police officer get a settlement agreement of $5 Million, even if he didn't resisted arrest? .
The skin color doesn’t mean a damned thing when a civilian gets beat down like he did. His profession as a cop didn’t safeguard him from abuse that should never have happened to ANY protester. The subsequent attempted coverup just demonstrates how dangerous this system has become. He was an experienced officer who knew the system and where it broke down. What protection does the average citizen have against a corrupt government? In a world where law enforcement ignores crimes committed by minorities and selectively prosecutes whites and political opposition, what kind of justice is possible? No matter the skin, nobody wins but the corrupt. The real question is why have a government that blatantly disregards its mandate to impartially uphold our rights? Citizens pay for it and yet gain nothing from it when their rights are made useless by tyranny.
Trying to convict a cop of preplanned intentional homicide amidst the line of duty would be pretty difficult. If a lesser charge perhaps there wouldve been a conviction.
Something like that happens to you, you question why you're fighting on the same side. I can't imagine how that feels being a professional law enforcement officer.
@@vuton7670these people are ready to riot. That’s why they’re there in the first place. The cops don’t need to help them along. And not everything is about race. People like you are the reason this country try is falling off a cliff.
But we know from videos and photos that's not true about HK. The HK protesters filmed themselves outfitted with gear like they were going to war, including weapons. Not "a few bad apples" but entire platoons of street warriors were filmed violently attacking cops, en masse.
This is almost as stupid as the "undecover police pretending to be drug sellers arrest undecover police officers pretending to be drug buyers trying to arrest the drug dealers"
The real question is, if someone had been protesting but had NOT committed any property damage, as they too would have been beaten in the situation, would they have been awarded this? Or is it JUST because he is an officer to where the city couldn't "ignore" it?
How ignorant are you? He was working undercover for the police department, being paid to video what was happening from the viewpoint of the protesters. He was not actually protesting. As I stated to another ignorant keyboard warrior, it would be prudent of you to listen. They talk about this @ 1:37
Are you really that ignorant? They are being paid to video what is happening from the viewpoint of the protesters. They are not actually protesting. Also, it would be prudent of you to listen. They talk about this @ 1:37
Now he knows what it feels like to be on the other side of the badge of an unaccountable authority. Welcome to life for the average citizen. Those who work in law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than those not granted the power to use lethal force while ensuring public safety. End qualified immunity to hold police officers accountable while ensuring that government officials actually prosecute crimes to hold accountable those who break the law. I'd already assumed that every single protest contains undercover officers so this is a data point supporting my suspicion. Now we get to the real question: are they truly just "monitoring" these events as they claim or do they participate as provocateurs? Excellent video, Nate. Thank you.
If you’re going to start weeping when beaten by the police, and only a light beating with no broken bones or serious injuries you only got a light touch! Now you know what it’s like for the public!!
Aside from giving them priority in having the cuffs removed when they take everyone away, what difference should it make? Is it acceptable to beat up someone who has committed a crime (if they're complying and laying on the ground, I mean)?
Good for officer Hall. Also sickening that if he were a normal civilian he wouldn't have gotten a red cent. I really feel that the only way that the police in this country will change and stop using excessive force is to do away with implied immunity. If there are no repercussions for their actions, personal accountability is never going to be a consideration. (Insert Ice Cube quote here).
Lying to federal agents is way more of a charge then 2 weekends in jail. She committed a felony while disrespecting the oath she sworn to protect and should never serve under the badge ever again even as a security guard.
You know I've noticed something that when I click on anything political that goes against mainstream that sometimes the audio cuts out but it only happens on these kinds of videos
