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Dating An Avoidant Person? Here's 4 Ways To THRIVE With Them 

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@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Месяц назад
Here’s the REALITY. Just LEAVE. If you have any self love and respect, let this person go and focus back on your own life. These people will drain you, abuse you, and discard you like worthless trash when just the day before you were the love of their life and their entire world. Get off the anxiety inducing and insanity creating tightrope and save yourself. I know it sucks. I know you love them very much. But trust me. SAVE YOURSELF
@karinanikoghos7285
@karinanikoghos7285 Месяц назад
How absolutely incredibly psychologically resilient one must be to have an avoidant partner!!! Damn it lol. Don't touch them, don't talk to them, pretend you are dead, don't breathe, give them a choice to decide if they want you to be alive 😂😂 And yet, I am still with one lol Jokes aside, nice video ❤
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Месяц назад
True. I have ptsd after his sudden discard. Never again
@ayomikokila271
@ayomikokila271 Месяц назад
True
@daniellediaz2516
@daniellediaz2516 5 дней назад
Same here lol, 20 years!
@jenniferparisi424
@jenniferparisi424 Месяц назад
They have all these needs and our needs don't matter
@derrickak17
@derrickak17 Месяц назад
That’s exactly how they feel. “You have all these needs and mine don’t even matter”
@Pptsonyt8553
@Pptsonyt8553 Месяц назад
I'm AP and I know it's hard to understand, but I'm pretty sure the DA also feels the way we do but we don't understand it either... So sad actually 😅
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 Месяц назад
I have to be honest - serious relationships don’t even sound enjoyable at this point. So much work that goes into it and folks being so much baggage and it could end at any moment. Exhausting especially for someone that tends to enjoy solitude for the most part
@pure-pisces9980
@pure-pisces9980 Месяц назад
Exactly......giving, giving, giving.....i felt so taken for granted.....extremely hard to NOT personalise......what about giving back, listening, understanding the other.... It would of helped 100%!!! Im an AP ......extremely painful & crushing!!!! Never knowing where the hell i stood!!!...😢​@@derrickak17
@norswil8763
@norswil8763 Месяц назад
Wrong, your needs do matter to them. If boundaries are clearly stated, compromised and settled upon there shouldn’t be any surprises. Meet halfway, anxious behaviours are demanding, no attachment behaviour set should be entirely served. Communication and intunement also key.
@veral2274
@veral2274 Месяц назад
It's absolutely exhausting. It leads you to emotional and physical burnout. And this is coming from a secure leaning on anxious. Which might explain how I've been in this rollercoaster for 2 years. A full blown anxious preoccupied wouldn't have lasted 2 months.
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Месяц назад
I totally agree with you
@monicaprivate
@monicaprivate 7 дней назад
Yes, it's exhausting. Constant interruption to any relational momentum. Feels stagnant looping patterns
@daniellediaz2516
@daniellediaz2516 5 дней назад
I was an AP with a DA for 16 years. It can definitely last more than 2 months.
@srijeetasaha3865
@srijeetasaha3865 20 часов назад
Full blown anxious preoccupied. Didnt last 2months 😂
@zkhan9936
@zkhan9936 29 дней назад
1. Do NOT Chase 2. Try To Reduce the amount of criticism you bring to the relationship 3. Stop making demands or using ultimatums 4. Try not personalize what is happening
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 25 дней назад
How not chase? Then it is a no contact relationship 🤷🏻‍♀️They took so long to initiate any conversation 🧐
@cangrejitamiry
@cangrejitamiry 18 дней назад
That’s the opposite of what Thais says. She says you must see your needs through with avoidants.
@daniellediaz2516
@daniellediaz2516 5 дней назад
​@@cangrejitamiry I love Thias! She's the absolute best when it comes to attachment styles!! ❤ No other channel even comes close to what she offers 💯
@MyShapeofmyHeart
@MyShapeofmyHeart 4 дня назад
whats this channel ​@daniellediaz2516
@robertdeskoski9783
@robertdeskoski9783 Месяц назад
Unless they're in therapy and working on what is most likely C-PTSD, none of this matters.
@Barbara-zo6pq
@Barbara-zo6pq Месяц назад
I give opportunities for closeness but get turned down. Creates insecurities in me.
@migueld5227
@migueld5227 Месяц назад
Sounds like the only way to have a relationship with an avoidant is to have zero boundaries
@mrsherwood2599
@mrsherwood2599 Месяц назад
There ya go 👍
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Месяц назад
Exactly, is doing everything to make avoidant to choose to stay and love you the way you deserve but never communicating any vulnerability. Been there and never again
@raycarden7941
@raycarden7941 Месяц назад
It's exactly the opposite, we avoidants hate spineless pushovers
@mrsherwood2599
@mrsherwood2599 Месяц назад
@@raycarden7941 and everyone else.
@migueld5227
@migueld5227 Месяц назад
@@raycarden7941 I disagree. What you avoidants think you hate and what you instinctively hate are two different things
@teresmitch88
@teresmitch88 Месяц назад
I dumped him . He became a cry baby . 😭 I did everything you said not to do . I don’t have the patience for that immature shit
@Ikaros23
@Ikaros23 Месяц назад
The best move is to go « no contact» with avoidants. They can’t connect with others, because of their mental dissorder. But they still crave attention/validation. 1: We can’t fix their anxiety 2: Their anxiety and mental dissorder is not our responsibility Just let them go
@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Месяц назад
Exactly. There is no winning just leave
@Ikaros23
@Ikaros23 День назад
@@OneManCollaboration you « win» your own mental health, time, focus. And self learn «self-respect skills». I would say that is a huge victory. Maby the greatest we will ever do!
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 25 дней назад
It is exhausting 😩I wish I could go back and not have met him. Easier to learn how to stop loving him altogether 😢
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 22 дня назад
Me too! I regret staying in the relationship, wish I cut it off the first time he disappeard.
@MrSamIAm39
@MrSamIAm39 24 дня назад
Save your sanity and run
@giselabrat3724
@giselabrat3724 Месяц назад
Why stay with an avoidant? Is an equal relationship of both give and take not healthier? It does feel like a lot of work from one part only.
@UnknowwnnHero
@UnknowwnnHero 9 дней назад
You ever been with an anxious? Are you one? Because needing unlimited reassurance is pathetic but you all try to force avoidants to eat shit and they won’t
@chanelmarie8085
@chanelmarie8085 5 дней назад
I really love this video, I have an avoidant Daughter that I have been struggling to raise, all to life challenges of being a single parent working to much & stressing her out to do more. My Daughters needs were not being meet in so many ways. Life has slowed down now we are both seeing how mess up the past was. So thank you
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 25 дней назад
I’m sorry but they unable to make decisions. They just act like a child and ask what do you want?! 😢
@iamthem
@iamthem Месяц назад
Great! But what about the feminine that doesn’t want to make decisions? I don’t know how many times I have been told, “I don’t want to figure this out.” “I don’t want to make the decisions.” The man/masculine takes the lead. But when the man/masculine is leaning more toward the anxious attachment.. it can be a bit convoluted.
@11Cannons
@11Cannons 27 дней назад
thats an interesting situation, mine is stuck in the masculine which is fear of losing control. I lead on almost all plans, but the frequency is what she holds on to. Im fighting the calendar of more plans and time spent. When you are leading, does that help the anxious side calm down? It has for myself.
@Djboborei
@Djboborei Месяц назад
Why stoop so low to date a ticking time bomb with zero regards for you?
@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Месяц назад
Exactly
@luketimewalker
@luketimewalker 9 дней назад
OUCH
@amantinoubliable
@amantinoubliable Месяц назад
Thank you for your consistency and your videos Connor! Let's bump the algo straight away...
@ManTalks
@ManTalks Месяц назад
Appreciate that!
@surfreadjumpsleep
@surfreadjumpsleep Месяц назад
Honestly do not bother.
@CsVintageCo
@CsVintageCo Месяц назад
My dude.... You are Nailing it!
@tjthetiger1980
@tjthetiger1980 Месяц назад
Great advice my man! Thankyou 🙏🏽✊🏽
@OG_zennedout
@OG_zennedout Месяц назад
This was very helpful, thank you
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 25 дней назад
This is life. How not to personalise. It is a couple relationship. Both people need to be validated
@inquisitivewanderer2536
@inquisitivewanderer2536 Месяц назад
Wow - this is gold, I tell you.. gold.
@edithamaliaioo2228
@edithamaliaioo2228 Месяц назад
Very wise, great advice, thank you! This is best video on DAs I have seen so far , very good !
@Growwithgrace101
@Growwithgrace101 5 дней назад
So basically be very careful and monitor yourself constantly or they will run! That's not a relationship it's exhausting. They get to 'be' how they want and you have to keep things together. That is enabling their behaviour. Your needs must be voiced and if an avoidant doesn't make changes too you are likely doomed.
@derrickfennell8130
@derrickfennell8130 Месяц назад
Thanks dude, I needed to hear this
@Botch_TV
@Botch_TV Месяц назад
I have the fearful avoidant attachment style, I’m in therapy working on it. I’ve been single for 10 years after an abusive relationship. I like what you said about ultimatums. It’s true and having choices taken away from you at a young age is huge. I had to be the man of the house without my father around so I didn’t have much choice growing up along with medical issues. My abusive ex refused to give choices. It was her way or no way at all. Criticism too is a big thing. I do appreciate the opportunity to choose. I never got those choices. I connect with people, it just takes me a bit to warm up to someone. When I had to work, my ex hated it. She never said the things I was good at, it was always criticism. I understand the importance of healing and bettering yourself too. I think if someone isn’t ready to tell somebody something, they shouldn’t be forced to. Creating that choice dynamic and making the person feel comfortable enough to share it with you is important. I have shared things when I’ve felt comfortable enough with someone because they created that comfortable environment by being nonjudgmental and affirming that they wouldn’t be. It’s important to create that with your partner so they feel heard for both the avoidant and the other person.
@dja-juicepowersourceproduc2887
@dja-juicepowersourceproduc2887 Месяц назад
Great video brother real good information. Keep up the amazing work 👍 God bless 🙌 🙏
@VicBerger
@VicBerger Месяц назад
Thank you!
@user-tz1hl3pf2w
@user-tz1hl3pf2w 8 дней назад
Tysm. Very helpful.
@davidepace5819
@davidepace5819 Месяц назад
Such a big help
@musokiemily336
@musokiemily336 Месяц назад
So so so so true. It's true. I believe that.
@claudiateixeira3406
@claudiateixeira3406 Месяц назад
Jesus! This video should be" How to deal with a Princess!!"!! Or " Be an insect or the princess will beat you!!"
@caitlinsoliman1658
@caitlinsoliman1658 Месяц назад
Why should people even stay with an avoidant person??? I get loving the person but you do not even mention that thought.
@flake8382
@flake8382 6 дней назад
Serious question - At what point do we start just prioritising ourselves and our mental fortitude for an exit plam?
@emiliavieira6871
@emiliavieira6871 3 дня назад
I am a secure avoidant...he mentioned in this video...anxious ones need work on theu insecure ad well as over reaching n more
@DevinAK49
@DevinAK49 Месяц назад
Ill try the choices. Im anxious af and working in it. My wife is so patient, but right now we want different things. Im stuggleing with not backsliding.
@Nicole-yz7bo
@Nicole-yz7bo 25 дней назад
Thank you ❤
@robdog4095
@robdog4095 Месяц назад
Gold
@AM1465
@AM1465 День назад
Make yourself a doormat? Turn yourself into a nervous wreck? It is not worth it. Date healthy.
@luketimewalker
@luketimewalker 9 дней назад
2 weeks ago I was telling someone we need to be understanding, not to give up on the traumatized DA. But this here really rubs me the wrong way. "DO NOT EXIST.". As someone said recently, be an FBI negociator???? Really? Many other DA counselors stress that one needs to have boundaries, and that just leaving the DA in his/her comfort zone simply makes them believe it's working, which will lead to 1) no change 2) at some point, breadcrumb and abandon you anyway (because things were too good, yay!) Still, I'll ponder on the "small steps" doctrine.
@_D_A_V_E_
@_D_A_V_E_ Месяц назад
Could you discuss pathological demand avoidance on the part of the avoidant? I feel like this is a roadblock to what you’ve said about giving options because if resentment is built up and there’s PDA, it likely won’t work.
@vickibazter3446
@vickibazter3446 12 дней назад
No Joy
@chelsy2255
@chelsy2255 11 дней назад
Then it's simply impossible to have a relationship with them. Let's put it out there. You have to become avoidant either. If you cannot criticise, you make your unhappiness your own problem, don't chase but they won't do either, don't demand anything, don't, don't, don't anything. All these but particularly giving choices are killing the relationship. Having to ask all the f.. time do you want this or this? Whaaaat? Then you don't need to take these people's problems and make them your own. They need to simply sort themselves out or stay the f.. single. The world doesn't revolve around them, they have the problems not anyone else. Just leave them at the first signs, you have to exercise your own choice of not wanting a torturous and unfulfilling relationship with someone mental. The solution is simple: vet, vet, vet harshly, don't get emotionally invested in a man till he proves he's normal and be ready to walk away at any point. Treat them the way they treat you.
@carlorizzo827
@carlorizzo827 Месяц назад
ThankU This is pretty great! I love you said "avoidant state". Reinforces that these terms are not meant to label people. I appreciate your words on criticism. I've come to see that as alcoholic behavior. A waste. I'm single, lots o pain there. But i have a best friend who often avoids. Lacking romantic tension, I easily remain patient. He appreciates it! I respect his privacy. The reward is he gradually has become more forthcoming
@KR-ou2qo
@KR-ou2qo Месяц назад
2:56 How do you reduce the amount of criticism coming from the avoidant?
@Bohemian_lost
@Bohemian_lost Месяц назад
I wonder what if you are both avoident in a realationship? Please I need some advice
@erica2105
@erica2105 Месяц назад
But this way...our needs don't matter at all? We have to shape ourselves to fit the avoidant agenda?
@dragonpegasus1231
@dragonpegasus1231 Месяц назад
from what I experienced as anxious, I learned to focus on myself more, by looking for positive activity that I can explore.. I contact him once in 2 days just to check his condition by chat and send him a joke or funny videos. we meet biweekly and i negotiate our date activity with him. look at him as a partner in life, but still prioritize myself.. so far it works out.
@erica2105
@erica2105 Месяц назад
@@dragonpegasus1231 is that good enough for you?
@edinbrodlic4564
@edinbrodlic4564 Месяц назад
But is that really a life partner?
@dragonpegasus1231
@dragonpegasus1231 Месяц назад
@@edinbrodlic4564 we still have long way to go, but so far we're comfortable. The idea is to fix ourselves so we can have a more stable relationship. as long as we communicate frequently and try to find solutions to our attachment issues in a positive way. I think that's what a life partner does.
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector Месяц назад
I think this information is not meant to enable but to Better understand the person you’re with because you almost never really know who you’re with until you notice patterns. Unfortunately at times if we truly want to be with someone our desire to learn how to work with them is the ultimate sign of love. Now that doesn’t mean to be the only one doing this but perhaps by helping understand the other side it can help the other side begin to meet you also where you may be at. Very nuanced topic
@user-qb5wy5dg8w
@user-qb5wy5dg8w 21 день назад
I love your channel and your advice. But this video shows that we need to babysit an avoidant partner .. What seems to be working for us is going to couple therapy and him understanding the harm he's causing and that isn't just my own pov. All your last 3 tips require us to be the bigger person, the adult, while DA is the kid to be taken care of. I don't see those to thrive with anyone except for children. They need to have accountability and self-awareness. Maybe those tips are applicable when the DA is in their healing journey and starting to change or willing to change, other than that, it's just too much.
@luketimewalker
@luketimewalker 9 дней назад
interesting. Like kickstarting the process, but then one needs to shift gears. Your approach seems to bridge the gap between the advice of "small steps to learn to make choices" given here, with other channels' advice of "set boundaries and (softly but firmly) call out behaviors that are unacceptable". Well done, thanks!
@user-qb5wy5dg8w
@user-qb5wy5dg8w 8 дней назад
@@luketimewalker Good luck if you're having a similar journey ^-^
@marievorburger
@marievorburger Месяц назад
Agreed. Ask an avoidant and give them small choices to make and their ability to trust and feel safe will grow much faster.
@Darkhalo314
@Darkhalo314 Месяц назад
I'm starting to think that i'm avoidat attachement...
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 22 дня назад
I’m dating an avoidant.. I think we are dating lol, is so hard not to take it personally! He disappears two weeks at a time , but he is so nice when we are together. I don’t think I can go on with him.
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 22 дня назад
Are we saying here that I should be patient and tip toe around his behavior? I’m don’t think I can keep dating him/avoidant much longer, I don’t do well with abandonment and have to wait for him to reach out to me. I’m done.
@luketimewalker
@luketimewalker 9 дней назад
@@brownsugardelima Hi, I just had this insight based on one of the comments above that mentions going to couple therapy: The advice here is good only IF used Like kickstarting the process, but then (after several weeks) one needs to shift gears. Aiming to bridge the gap between the advice of "small steps to learn to make choices" given here, with other channels' advice of "set boundaries and (softly but firmly) call out behaviors that are unacceptable".
@NS-uq9st
@NS-uq9st День назад
Leave them.....they are the most selfish people
@karasmusic123
@karasmusic123 Месяц назад
So offer them choices.
@fiction589
@fiction589 Месяц назад
Wenn mein Hund geklaut wird, werd ich zum Tier. Dann geh ich über Leichen. Dann sollte der Täter um sein Leben rennen. Meinen Hund klauen, das ist vermutlich das letzte was du tust....😅😮
@karltan9461
@karltan9461 5 дней назад
Videos like this are disingenuous. Relationships with avoidants are often impossible with the outcome set in stone. No matter what people do. There's only one way there's a chance of it working out and that is them recognising their problem and going to therapy. Even then its not a guarantee. Horrible advice. Comment sections says it all.
@GodHelpMe369
@GodHelpMe369 11 дней назад
The hardest person to break up with is the one you've created in your delusional, fantasy-making mind... 1. Know your value!!! (Do NOT doubt yourself.) 2. Take yourself and your worth seriously. You need to BE A QUEEN to be treated like one. 3. Don’t give easy access to anyone, at any time. Access to your energy should be expensive. 4. Do NOT only express your boundaries. YOU MUST show them. 5. Always be ready to walk away. 6. Show that you are focused on actions not on words. 7. Have a healthy degree of skepticism. 8. You must be willing to say NO and you must be willing to lose the man, if needed. 9. Never EVER chase a man! A truly worthy woman, (who knows her worth) does not EVER chase a man. Giving the same energy that you're getting is key and if you don't like that energy then move on! NOW! It can be hard but that's when you need to choose yourself over the damn illusion/fantasy. A man who loves a woman will not ignore her, ever, period. So... If he ignores me I will step back and he will lose me. Simple. Simple. Non-dramatic and uncomplicated. I don’t, under any circumstance: play these childish-abusive-controlling mind games. I will only be with a man who values and appreciates me, and treats me as the Queen, I AM. (Daughter of the Most Hight; King of kings!) Because I am a beautiful and kind and divine and sexy and wise and intelligent and magical woman: who knows my worth. Period. Also, We create each moment. This moment contains, through my focus, both positive and negative... I can put my attention on what I lack, what I don't have, what traumas I do have etc... And, I can put my attention on the calm moment that I am in, NOW, the food I just ate, and the fact that my body is satisfied, the shelter I do have... (You get my idea!) Both are here... And now. For the sake of fairness, I will allow myself to cry my pains, in the moment if/when they come/arise, AND also acknowledge the beauty I still have in my life NOW. Pain? Yes. Suffering? Indeed. And, also: wonderous magical divine beauty. Blessings to you!
@flake8382
@flake8382 6 дней назад
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Or congratulations I'm proud of you. I dunno. Pick one based on whatever it is you just said.
@Andreus154
@Andreus154 Месяц назад
Good video but too long . Try to keep the videos under 15min and you will get more subscribers and views
@johnny4062
@johnny4062 Месяц назад
This video is 10 minutes long though
@stevenbrady440
@stevenbrady440 20 дней назад
Scammer spam
@Phatxual
@Phatxual Месяц назад
Thanks for this! The very last fact in this vid was basically what started the spiral in my last relationship, and I now realize it was probably my fault for taking shit personally🤔😢😅
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