Defective Oil Filter, Look Before You Install Your Next Oil Filter, Check Your Oil Filter

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Oil Filter Inspection.
Today we'll open up a defective oil filter. Always check your oil filters before you install them.
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@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

► Thanks For Watching! and Watch an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this RU-vid Channel, Thank You!

@Gary7even Год назад

One reason I prefer holes to louvers. I honestly don't know why filter companies do louvers.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

Louvers have no punch debris trash like holes leave. .

@riceburner4747 Год назад

Wow! I NEVER look inside new filters. I check gaskets but will look from now on! Thanks to u & viewer who sent/caught the Bosch. 👍✊🇺🇸

@haroldbeauchamp3770 Год назад

This is precisely why I avoid filters with louvers. The SuperTech and its nylon cage keeps my mind at ease.

@cr2158 Год назад

Me also

@edwardglowacki4495 Год назад

I hated the idea of plastic cages when I first saw them in filters. I thought of it as being mfg. cost cutting.Now after watching many filter dissections I realize that they actually allow for a easier flow. Someday I may even change how I feel about fiber end caps 🤔

@marshmower Год назад

The nylon end tanks on a radiator can last 21 years. Those are boiling hot. The material seems fairly resilient.

@save16thave Год назад

Great investigating. I had to put my phone down and stream this video on the big screen for the entire family to see. A big thanks to your "deep throat" informant for bringing this to light.

@patchesthejaybird8431 Год назад

So many brands use similar louvers, are the louver cores made in the same factory across brands that use them? I don't know, so I guess you are on point, check your filters. If you buy in the store, check them before you purchase.

@90762709 Год назад

Wow! Now I’m going to have double check my filters!

@tomtheplummer7322 Год назад

MyOCD, I open boxes that haven’t been and find the best looking filter. 🤷‍♂️😏👍🏻🙏🏻

@davidsacco4860 Год назад

Good video for everyone to see. I noticed this on a K&N filter I bought 4 years ago for my 2004 Dakota pickup. A lot of the louvers were not punched correctly. This filter was made in China. To K&N's credit they sent a new one to me without having to return the old one. I bought the filter directly from them. I have also noticed this on the Napa Gold filter for my Mazda. This filter is made by WIX and is made in Mexico. The Wix filter is identical to the Napa Gold filter also made in Mexico. I think the Wix, Purolator filters are now owned by Mann Humel. Most Bosch filters are made by Purolator from what I can tell. They both had a lot of louvers that were not punched correctly. I now tend to stay away from louvered filters for this reason. I first remember seeing this louvered core when I worked in industry about 20years ago. The Pal water filters used this type of center core. They were made of stainless and punched correctly. The tooling was probably much better than what is used for the auto oil filters. I still have the old K&N filter with the bad louvers if you want me to send it to you so you can cut it open.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi David, I'd rather have a New filter. Thanks for sharing.

@kenj.8897 Год назад

👍 Whipster

@XerxesTheGreatOne Год назад

Great catch... I'll check mine more closely now. Thank you and the viewer who sent you that filter both.

@markhollinshead5795 Год назад

wow

@OfficialNakatsuMegami Год назад

This is another reason why I only use E Cores. Plastic Cage cores in my filters or traditional Hole style if I am in a pinch. Thanks tons for the great video Boss.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome👍

@lorenray9479 6 месяцев назад

Goodeye!

@faxmen09 Год назад

I would like to see another shot of those louvers in a completely dark room with light down one end of tube viewing louvers light on outside. While louvers not as open as last Mexico Bosch, I'm very doubtful they pose a flow or bypass issue.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi faxmen09, I"ll have and do it at night because even with my shades down it's still rather light in the room. I'll see if I can do it tonight.

@faxmen09 Год назад

@@WhipCityWrencher Sounds like a plan. I think it would be interesting to see. When you can get to it.

@cr2158 Год назад

Why chance it go with open cage style better safe than sorry plus no long mileage oil changes that been drumed up by oil companies

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

@@faxmen09 8:45pm 👍

@faxmen09 Год назад

@@cr2158 Because one outlier does not a rule make. Oil filter companies like Champ Labs have been using louvers for a very long time. And, more manufacturers are moving to them. Just the way it is.

@MidNightRider2001 Год назад

That's what I love about this channel: insight into unthought of things.

@clydeespinosa6286 Год назад

Thanks for the heads up Whip

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

👍

@josephstarnes8747 Год назад

This is something I had never even thought of. I bet this guy is going to use nothing but SuperTech with the plastic cage from now on. :))

@jamesplotkin4674 Год назад

I prefer the plastic cage design, as they flow very freely.

@WrenchingMafia Год назад

Great video going to send you a filter ve expecting it soon

@PRO4XKEV Год назад

Drinking to many Corona beers at the assembly plant in Mexico.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

LOL

@SlikLizrd Год назад

Chad drinks Corona. Men drink Modelo.

@kirkpalmer1709 Год назад

I've noticed this on the Wix. I've been using the Napa Gold 1734 for my 7.3 diesel and I usually check for this. I've looked at the Wix 51734 at O'reileys which is supposed to be the exact same filter, and I noticed that quite a few of the louvers were pinched closed on the Wix. I looked at several that were on the shelf and they were all about the same. I've never seen this problem on the Napa Gold. Maybe Wix just had a bad batch go to O'reileys and I just happened to check them out at the right, or wrong time.

@philipfarnam6013 Год назад

Good on ya! Would never have expected. Easy exam before installation...something I will be doing each time, now. A little scary, actually.

@kirkkohnen5050 Год назад

The louvers were partially open. Some oil would have flowed through them. Any excess restriction would cause the bypass to open. So, would that have destroyed the engine? No, but you'd have an oil change worth of poor filtering. The most worrisome part of this to me would be if the louvers release metal fragments into the "clean" side of the oil. THAT could have damaged the engine, and you'd have virtually no way to prove that it was Bosch's fault. Bosch definitely owes the user community a response. I've just removed Bosch from my vendor list for oil filters.

@lg9853 Год назад

I have a couple of those same filters for my Corolla. Should have stayed with the Toyota filter. I never thought of looking at the inside holes.

@27dmarshall Год назад

Just had this issue on a WIX 57002 (made in Mexico) yesterday. Caught it before installation!! Other WIX designs I've used are excellent. No more louvered filter designs for me.

@CORVAIRWILD Год назад

3rd rainy South Carolina view

@RicArmstrong Год назад

That's why I prefer filters with round holes inside.

@altonrowell613 Год назад

That is something else. Wow 😳 I will watch out.

@GainingDespair Год назад

I hate louvers, but hey probably saves them a nickel every 10,000 they make so bean counters will count.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

Back in late 2000s to about 2014 that Bosch and M1 Extended were identical.

@faxmen09 Год назад

I think it may have been before 2014. Bosch used to be made by Champ Labs but that was before Bosch and Mann both bought Purolator from Arvin Meritor back in 2006. After that Bosch US made by Purolator.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

@@faxmen09 Hard to tell. Bought the last ones for that vehicle both on sale for 5.77 from Oreillys March 2014. They looked the same as all the ones prior. 8.1 Big block filters.

@faxmen09 Год назад

@@GT-mn3bx Without seeing can't definitively say, but after the 06 purchase of Purolator, the ones I've seen, Bosch moved to Puro made.

@jensenwilliam5434 Год назад

Thank you!

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome👍

@cskiles318 Год назад

Great info thanks for sharing 👍

@yas2733 Год назад

Even the good filter didn't look all that free flowing and it isn't easy seeing inside an oil filter to start with.

@poolmotorrepairguyFL Год назад

Jay the Florida pool pump motor repair guy. When Service Calls Longwood approved ! that was good info 2 see & know👨‍🔧good job !! WOW WCW

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks Jay👍

@davidcampbell1899 Год назад

i work in Mfg and even though there are a lot of quality control "safeguards" built into the process in mass manufacturing, there is the odd product that slip through the cracks. Checking your filters when you buy them, like this person did is a good idea, "a second set of eyes". I hope the guys from Mann and Hummel see this video.

@opera93 Год назад

Thanks, great ideas… Anyways,I generally inspect things ( parts,replacements,new) reasonably closely, Save (or store temporary)the new Wrappper/box/container for info:, Warranty’s,the Replaced/old/new items……in summary, will inspect filters/etc closer& with high intensity light, etc.!

@404notfound..... Год назад

Wow great catch and interesting video. Thanks Pete for posting this video and thank you to the viewer for sending it. 👍🇨🇦

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome drum👍

@TargaWheels Год назад

Quality control. I mean you've seen the areas they make some oil filters. Not only dirty conditions but they just assemble without looking if the parts are ok. Maybe call or email the company and refer them to your video?

@twinforce_fusion6560 Год назад

Look and shake them all the time. That's a good catch.

@bravo510ss Год назад

I've been checking the louvers for a few years now. This is very common on the WIX 10255. I go through every box on the shelf before i purchase.

@kruelzombieful Год назад

And that's why I love E-core filters.

@marketingmajor8126 Год назад

I've received two filters like this in the past. Both times I ended up sending them back for a replacement directly from the manufacturer. I could have returned them to the place of purchase but I wanted the manufacturer to see for themselves what they were churning out lol. One was a WIX, the other was a Purolator. Because of the potential of this occurring with even the slightest of manufacturing variance to louvers, I now avoid oil filters that have louvers. Seeing is believing. When the E-cores first started hitting the market, a lot of people (including myself to a certain degree) suspected it was the manufacturers trying to scrape a few extra pennies in profit but the actual testing I've seen done on the E-cores confirms they are stronger than the metal cages and one thing for sure and without any doubt, the E-cores offer dramatically less resistance to flow versus louvers, not to even mention louvers that haven't been stamped open properly. I don't mind the metal cages that have drill holes instead of louvers, as I've never seen one with drill holes that's anywhere near as restrictive as incorrectly stamped (not fully opened) louvers can be. Whichever way you think about it though, you'll NEVER have to worry about improperly stamped louvers with an E-core!

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

That's for sure😊👍

@enricohyppolito6454 Год назад

Thank you very much!

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome Enrico👍

@27dmarshall Год назад

I had this EXACT issue yesterday (100% closed louvers on 2/3 of them, other louvers slightly, barely open) WIX 57002 (Made in Mexico). First oil change on wife's 2.5L Turbo Mazda CX-50. Thank the Lord I caught it!!! VERY VERY disappointed in WIX about this!! HUGE quality control issue!!! Other WIX designs tend to be excellent. No more louvered filters for me here on out. I tend to order filters online, so I won't be able to inspect them prior to purchase. So, it's not worth buying louvered filters in my opinion.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Dustin, The more I see and hear about the closed louvers the more I'm liking the Nylon cage. Haven't seen a defective one yet. Thanks for Sharing👍

@biffmalibu3052 Год назад

I recently bought a Bosch 3311 Premium oil filter from Home Depot online for $6 plus tax with free shipping, made in Mexico. Yes, Home Depot. Apparently, they sell a limited line of auto parts online. Parts are hit & miss. Anyway, the same thing happened to me. I looked inside, and most of the louvers looked closed. I returned it to my local store. I wound up buying a dozen Champ 2840XL oil filters on Rock Auto. $3.47 each plus $10.99 shipping plus 6% tax, $55.79 total or $4.65 each, bottom line. I've watched MANY of your videos and Champ XL seems like the most bang for the buck to me for my 2001 Toyota Echo with 214,000 miles on it. Automatic 4 speed and I still get around 40 mpg highway. Runs like a top.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Biff Yep, RockAuto's oil filters are reasonable and if you buy a bunch as you did it offsets the shipping cost. Thanks for Sharing👍

@Antimortem 9 месяцев назад

👍

@bobjoatmon1993 Год назад

Huh, that's the filter I use and interestingly enough my oil pressure dropped 5 or 6 PSI after my last oil change. It's not low but now I'm wondering if I should replace it anyway

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

Maybe your old filter was plugged.

@bobjoatmon1993 Год назад

@@GT-mn3bx no, it had always been a certain pressure at a temp & RPM since I bought the car new. Always used the same oil and changed every 5k. So it was this last filter. Note I went out after posting and changed the filter with a new Bosch I had on the shelf for the next oil change (didn't change the oil, just replaced the filter 'early' ) Drove the car to warm it up and check and see I regained the missing oil pressure - so it WAS something about the filter!

@cr2158 Год назад

Get open style cage nice free flow design be safe not sorry

@freedomliberty7611 Год назад

Great job Pete

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks Dwayne

@John115Yonkers Год назад

Good catch Pete. This is why I like HOLES. Napa Platinum😚.

@dogewisdom9921 Год назад

Garbage filter

@PapiDoesIt Год назад

That's a good catch! I always prefer a nylon cage to perforated metal, and now I have another reason.

@scottymoondogjakubin4766 Год назад

There are a few good reasons to look down the center of a new filter ! One napa gold i bought had large dead stink bug in it and one filter i bought new had engine oil already in it ! Must have been a return ? but ya thanks the video whip ! 🍺

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks scotty, stink bug, wow, Good catch!👍

@HEAVY_B Год назад

I just looked through a pile of Bosch 3500 filters (same size as Ford FL1a and Fram PH8a) that I bought. I use them in several vehicles. Out of 28 Bosch 3500, 17 had louvers and 11 had drilled holes. The date code on filters is greek so I can’t tell which ones are newer. I used one of these Bosch 3500 filter on my 1994 Nissan Pathfinder as I use a remote oil filter setup. I failed emissions last week in AZ. I was told that dirty old oil can cause you to fail. So I changed it after just 2,000 miles. Oil was BLACK AF. I thought I had a plugged EGR etc. Just spent 30 minutes digging through the trash. The one I pulled off of Pathfinder was louvered! I ordered an oil filter cutter last week after watching a bunch of these videos. I will take it apart and see. Louvers look kinda closed from outside but not sure if that is the black oil causing it to only look closed. Stay tuned…

@jensenwilliam5434 Год назад

Send me your reply if you can . I would like to see what you find. Thank you

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Let me know what you find out, Thanks!

@HEAVY_B Год назад

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@HEAVY_B Год назад

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@fike301 Год назад

I notice wix Xp now has this design instead of round holes

@marshmower Год назад

I been looking inside them for a long time. Final QC is on the end user.

@SimpleTastyFood2024 Год назад

Very interesting and informative! Good catch! TFS Merri :)

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Merri, Thanks, have a great week👍

@mutantryeff Год назад

Wow!!! I have a relative that works on heavy equipment. He says they have been finding metal filings inside filters from major manufacturers like CAT. They now borescope all of the filters before installing them as those particles would go directly into the engine and can plug oil cooling jets at the bottom of cylinders and do other damage.

@Haffschlappe Месяц назад

Industrial sabotage

@mph6502 Год назад

You would think their quality control would have caught that. Another view from the outside with the light shining inside would be interesting.

@marshmower Год назад

Would you even put it on your riding mower? I'm sure we have one sitting around with crappy louvers.

@mooseman3136 Год назад

Pandemic build quality?!? A lot of stuff has had a declining build quality since the pandemic. I had a helluva time to get a new working fridge last year and they were made in Mexico as well.

@SlikLizrd Год назад

YEP. America took a hellish hit from that COVID catastrophe. Too bad that NOTHING was done until President Joe Biden took control. American-made appliances (Refrigerators, Stoves, Washing Machines, TVs), and just about ALL manufactured goods are no longer made here. Americans refused to work for slave wages, so THE MANUFACTURERS SENT OUR JOBS to "3rd World" countries. Fortunately, President Biden also signed into law the "CHIPS Act", which brings Chip-making jobs BACK to America's shores.

@ED-ti5tc Год назад

Great video and great catch! I've always looked in the filter for trash or debris. But this is something new to look out for. Thanks!

@tomtheplummer7322 Год назад

Gotta put in on a test machine on every oil change. WTF.

@davidtate166 Год назад

I hope fram motor craft don't have this problem 😬

@daewooparts Год назад

I seen 2 Bosch filters with suspect closed holes, complained to Bosch & then promptly crushed both Bosch oil filters in the filter crusher instead of returning them to the autoparts store where they would have ended back up on the shelf & destroy someone else's engine.....these should have not gotten past quality control at the factory....but then again it's a Mexican factory

@dwheeler016 Год назад

Anything made in Mexico or China is suspect

@davidcampbell1899 Год назад

Blaming the problem on a Mexican factory is stupid! You obviously don't know anything about quality control prosses in an automated mass manufacturing facility. Do you think they pay some flunkie to sit there and personally EYE BALL every cage. They stamp out tens of thousands of those things in an hour and even computers don't catch all the problems.

@faxmen09 Год назад

The "but then again" portion says it all.

@Haffschlappe Месяц назад

Fake Bosch filters

@daewooparts Месяц назад

@@Haffschlappe ,they was original Bosch filters that was made in Mexico & was sold thru legitimate parts suppliers thru Bosch for the North American market,Bosch even refunded the purchases & took the information off the filter that I took pictures of ,they also sent me a jobber pack of 12 replacement filters a few weeks later

@milespritchard2018 Год назад

What are the disadvantages of louvers vs holes?

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

None, if they are opened up

@budblack3588 Год назад

another great Mann & Hummel products! 😆

@dwheeler016 Год назад

Thanks to Mr. Anon Y. Mous that he found this. I will bash Bosch for having their filters made in Mexico to save money. It can happen to anyone, but more likely with items made in China and Mexico.

@faxmen09 Год назад

Yeah, I'm not a zealot about it, but the move from made in US to hencho en Mexico, not a change for the better.

@christiancarlson5770 Год назад

Maybe a reason to prefer cartridge style?

@wildmanofthewynooch7028 Год назад

It’s upside down

@Boodieman72 Год назад

Things like this are the reason I went to K&P Engineering reusable filters.

@Boodieman72 Год назад

@@faxmen09 What are you talking about?

@dwendt44 Год назад

Never was a fan of louvers. Prefer holes or even better those nylon cage center tubes. High flowing.

@charleshines7282 Год назад

Must have been from a bad batch

@cr2158 Год назад

Some times people all ways go for most expensive filters the more the higher filter rating some times you get low flow but super tech ac Delco motor craft every 3000 or 3500 max you usually never end up with problems

@todd5082 Год назад

Wasn’t easy to see either. Not good.

@warrenself Год назад

Average of what I’d expect from a Bosch product even if they don’t produce it. Never had much luck with their products.

@rjrrtheis1 Год назад

Not good. That would definitely hinder oil flow, and starve the engine for lubrication. I’m not a fan of louvers, and I always check to make sure the louvers are open before I put it on my car/truck.

@jeremynelson8496 Год назад

Screw worrying about bashing Bosch. That filter could ruin your 100k truck in hurry. Dang that's scary in 30 years I have never checked that. I will be now.

@Charkatak Год назад

Installing an oil filter like this could cost someone an engine. Videos like this emphasize the importance of at least glancing over and checking the filter's construction. On top of that, I see the sloppy glue...prices go up, quality goes down. Probably a new factory in MX as these filters were made in the USA before.

@nadineherrell5426 Год назад

Good show.. Crap filter again poor quality control Michael Herrell

@spankyham9607 Год назад

Quality control is sad. I would not expect this from Bosch, but being made in Mexico, i guess it is to be expected.

@defaultdriftco00 Год назад

To me, there isn’t a product that Bosch makes that I trust… other than trust inconsistencies and failure rates!

@bigjim5551212 Год назад

Very interesting. No flow.

@93sundance Год назад

Wonder why the guy didn't just return it and get refunded? I'll stick with the plastic cage ACDELCO.

@faxmen09 Год назад

Good question.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

Those are 6-8 bucks. Honeslty, probably would have sent to Pete Also.

@OfficialNakatsuMegami Год назад

I agree, Plastic Cage, also known as E Cores, are the superior construction. AC Delco, Super Tech.. really good set of filters. Though I like the better end caps and Silicone ADV from the Super Tech MP series

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

He wanted to let Bosch know about it and they basically ignored him so he gave it to me so that I could inform all that watch the channel.

@HEAVY_B Год назад

Maybe I should send you my used one that I mentioned in comments…