Dies To Removal Episode 10: Dealing With Magic: The Gathering Burnout

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Vince from Pleasant Kenobi and The Professor from Tolarian Community College discuss what to do when you start to feel burned out on Magic. Magic: The Gathering can sometimes become overwhelming or players can just become apathetic. What to do if this happens to you?
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@pinballwitch5256 5 лет назад

"I eat literal trash." - Vince, Confirmed Raccoon

@nupidkid1530 5 лет назад

I can see myself getting burnt out if I was playing competitively all the time but I don't think i can get too bored just playing commander. Any time I get bored of a deck I tear apart that deck and try to play a fresh new deck. It helps that I tend to play with my really good friends and we are fine drinking a few beers, ordering a few pizzas and just jamming games and talking magic for hours.

@GreatKingOfLipnice 5 лет назад

I put my Hancock under this.

@jamespooh2 5 лет назад

^same

@harrywheldon207 5 лет назад

So true. EDH is always fun

@captaingildor6884 5 лет назад

I like this post. I think the heart of it is: if you get burned out playing competitive, which is just like anything else in life that is truly competitive, take a step back and have some fun. The beauty of magic is that the minute you aren't enjoying it, you can build a pointless deck and play some VERY casual games where your objective might not even be to win, only to annoy. You can't always do that with other competitive things, its hard to take a step back from your olympic parallel bars career and just have some fun on the parallel bars, but magic is, at its core, a game that is so fun you should be comfortable losing at over and over as long as you aren't too invested.

@jamespooh2 5 лет назад

@@captaingildor6884 I agree. Yes play to win. But winning is never my ultimate goal. My goal is to have the most fun and do the most fun things as I can. That resolves most of my burnout

@draheim90 5 лет назад

Last video: “Magic players overuse jokes way too much.” Every Dies to Removal episode: “Oh Vince you have a RU-vid channel? You’ve never mentioned that.”

@Hidewrath 5 лет назад

The timing of this episode could not have been better. Many thanks from Germany =).

@outofthemox 5 лет назад

100% with you on this one. I didn't really get on board the hype train everyone else did with the new Ravnica sets, and with so many products being announced in quick succession, as well as the constant revisions to gameplay/design and bland art, I just got so overwhelmed. The game is stale for me right now as well (shocking since Dominaria was such a fun set) and I think it's appropriate for a bit of a break.

@MTGStrategist 5 лет назад

This show had everything...good advice, bad advice, freestyle rapping....great show.

@philliptyler1265 5 лет назад

Having gone 0-20 at prereleases definitely teaches you to be realistic about what expectations should be.

@Volkbrecht 5 лет назад

0-20?! That's not even incompetence any more, that's Lady Luck kicking your bottom with a running start. In 20 games, there should have been at least one where your opponent's screwed enough for you to score. That run probably needs to be treated with beer ;)

@markmason2216 5 лет назад

I didn't hear either of you mention. However, one thing I find helps with renewing the vigor of Magic is to shift playgroups from time to time. Drive 30 mins or 1 hour sometimes to go to a shop you've never played at. Learn how they do it there from "FNM" in general to Prize support to the local culture. Chat with the players there with whom you have no particular history to see how they view magic differently. Finally, I think Vince hinted at this, but the coffee table art books are a great way to get light into the Vorthos thing and even share the game with others.

@jeffersonderrickson5371 5 лет назад

Sometimes sitting in that tank we can forget that it is a gathering. Great perspectives guys.

@PonyBoy2792 5 лет назад

Honestly the toxicity of competitive players had me burnt out when I was grinding events. Even at fnm modern with the Friday night heroes or wanna be pros had me hating the modern format and standard format. Biggest change that got me back into the game was legacy cause most players to me felt excited cause a new player was joining in. Even at 1k or higher paying events, legacy players always had a smile on their face and it was welcoming. I may not be able to play fnm every week cause of access to legacy but when I travel to events for the format, I never had a bad time and have met many great ppl doing so.

@christophercronkhite5694 5 лет назад

Ryan Hallock I agree. Where I live there are two stores, with two totally different atmospheres. One is a VERY clean and organized corporate feeling game store, with a competitive crowd it seems like at most events. I’ve had some less than enjoyable experiences, including a match where my first round opponent seemed very frustrated, lost and dropped immediately.(maybe he was experiencing burnout) 🤷‍♂️ The other store is much more relaxed, and that includes the store and the employees, as well as the regulars that play. I’ve stopped playing at the other store because my experience at the more laid back store has almost always been better. The community makes a huge difference.

@lxUn1c0 5 лет назад

I've felt burnt out on Magic many times in my life. When that happens, I just take a break from the game until I'm feeling nostalgic about it again.

@joelowdon1615 5 лет назад

Imagine running over a Vintage deck in Burnout's Crash Mode.

@Wiseguy150 5 лет назад

for the small price of a ford focus... YOU TOO can enjoy budget vintage!

@jekanyika 5 лет назад

That's how you get the big combos

@fentonx3520 5 лет назад

Amazing content guys. I've been really enjoying these podcasts as a returning magic player. It's been tough to get back into it and these videos help, especially this one. I liked the point about focusing your decks and collections, I have too many decks that need a couple cards to be complete

@Ironic_daemonic 5 лет назад

I'm painting warhammer models while listening lol. War gaming is a life style. I enjoy magic a lot but my collection of 9 commander decks fit in a toolbox and I don't really interact with them until I play. My warhammer habit takes an entire room in my house, requires a multitude of specialized tools, hard earned artistic skills, a fully furnished table for playing. Wargaming is an all consuming hobby and I'm a little disappointed he just hand waved it in the beginning of the conversation.

@skooma970 5 лет назад

Cody Lee my best friend’s entire house is pretty much dedicated to warhammer. Totally see where you are coming from. Lol

@DoomBringerDANTE 5 лет назад

RPGs too. I can fill multiple bookshelfs with various DnD, Deadlands, Pathfinder, DC Adventures, Vampire the Masquerade, Requiem, Apocalypse, Awakening .etc.

@andrewlaverghetta715 5 лет назад

Have you every tried altering magic cards? I haven't done anything warhammer related, but I've seen info about people using the same kind of paint you uses for models to do mtg alters.

@Ironic_daemonic 5 лет назад

@@andrewlaverghetta715 I haven't but I've done paintings on a large scale. I'd be interested in trying alters after I finished painting my army.

@DarkPaladin1130 5 лет назад

Wargammer is far greater time consuming than Magic. Just as exspensive, and with the modeling and painting, it's a lifestyle.

@Eramiserasmus 5 лет назад

The easiest way to avoid burnout is to simply step away sometimes. I'm primarily a Limited player, so I got into Commander. When my obsession with building Commander decks got too big, I switched into Modern. I rotate between these every two to three weeks and haven't burned out or been consumed by any one format.

@MrJeffJep 5 лет назад

This podcast came at a great time for me. I’ve been on a pretty bad losing streak right now and this has helped me put things into perspective. Thanks Prof and PK.

@matthewlarson7207 5 лет назад

I built my first cube last year because of this channel and my friends say its the most fun they have had playing magic since Tempest. Thank you for that!

@JWAL1983 5 лет назад

I just built my first cube as well. My kids love it.

@klauzJamfield 5 лет назад

Right now I'm not enjoying Magic so much but the problem is that I don't feel comfortable in the game stores anymore so maybe I can try to host some events and see how that comes out

@thegreenman136 5 лет назад

Thanks professor , as much as i love this game im burn out with it something hard and this helps

@calvinsidle6509 5 лет назад

I started journaling my commander games a couple of months ago and it definitely helps whenever I start thinking I lose too much

@willgooch3645 5 лет назад

"I don't know if people let it [Warhammer] take over their life in the same way". Oh Vince, you're funny...

@kenshjiarson2204 5 лет назад

The Inquisition would like to know your location.

@Ironic_daemonic 5 лет назад

I just ranted about that. Dude I paint, build, convert, sculpt, build terrain, or something *EVERY* day, before and after work. My wife and I are on different shifts so weekends are together the week is for warhammer.

@W1DO 5 лет назад

I suppose it's less common since Age of Sigmar :)

@brianslusher1375 5 лет назад

Great video! I am in the process of downsizing because I hit a stall and had 5 budget commander decks but now I have 2 highly tuned ones that I actually play! Great advice, great content!

@tulius123 5 лет назад

Very good episode! I am currently going through a burnout...I play EDH everyday and I’m starting to get bored...to refresh I’m going for the first time to a GP, I am SO hyped to attend a GP! For me is working!

@christophercronkhite5694 5 лет назад

On the topic of getting better, I totally agree with the Prof about keeping a log, and taking an introspective look at your performance and the factors that went into it. I’ve trained for long road races and having a fixed goal, and keeping track of my progress towards that goal and seeing that progress helped fuel my motivation. Not only that, but if you analyze why you performed how you did, then you can identify where you can improve and take steps to do that.

@christophercronkhite5694 5 лет назад

I’ve never kept a log for magic, but I think I’ll start doing that. Thanks for that idea.

@vlagtr 5 лет назад

"I was with it once. Then "it" changed and then I wasn't with it. It happened to me, and it'll happen to you." - Abe Simpson

@williamalbright4774 5 лет назад

Read this in Abe's voice .

@ibanezplayer8080 5 лет назад

I've been meaning to build a spreadsheet and luckily I always jot down the deck I'm playing going into an event, and each of my opponents decks. Every game and who went first

@_donny_9473 5 лет назад

This has been a great video, I have been really trying to increase my win - loss ratio and be a better player, learn from my mistakes and play better in the standard format. I am burntout for sure but you have to stay motivated. And I just enjoy playing too. I feel like my shift is going from standard aggressive development to just playing some commander or old school with my wife.

@AnarkiBarsity 5 лет назад

My personal burnout on standard and commander is why I convinced my LGS to try and do a non-standard FNM at least once a month. We have been doing Chaos Draft, Pauper, and my All-Ravnica Sets Singleton Peasant Cube. I highly recommend pauper for anyone who is feeling standard burnout... Inexpensive, powerful, and interesting. Also funny when your pauper deck gets wins against standard decks.

@alexwilson4542 5 лет назад

Thanks a bunch for doing this episode guys! Refocusing/downsizing and hosting social magic events are two of the main things I'm constantly advocating! I have fetchlands and a few modern decks I thought I'd never be able to afford because of selling edh and standard chaf! Plus I've made countless friends through organising oddball social magic events etc. So yeah follow this advice XD

@andrewlaverghetta715 5 лет назад

I really enjoy variety, that definitely helps. I've got the Card Kingdom starter cube and it's been great. I also am...getting closer...to 10 commander decks. I've got some budget standard decks and 1 casual modern bogles deck that's had fetches and paths taken out to go into commander decks. The problem is that I also like playing traditional irish flute and whitle, I enjoy painting with acrylics and oils, and I also enjoy linocut printmaking. Too many hobbies...

@dallasfischer6164 5 лет назад

Ok this gave me some idea to help get me back into magic. Thanks for the ideas guys I hope to get back into the game fully soon. :)

@timmyd.8737 5 лет назад

Prof needs to team up with Dev for that mixtape 35:10

@antoniomarino9444 5 лет назад

Best collaboration possible

@andrewlaverghetta715 5 лет назад

Oh man, Prof's been streaming a bit recently, every so often going into a rhyming tantrum with rap-esque tones.

@Jaebird88 5 лет назад

Started playing Magic at the tail-end of Mirrodin block, and I dealt with burnout back in the middle of the Lorwyn block and stayed away from the game for more than ten years. It wasn't until Dominaria came out that I jumped back in, and stuck with mainly participating in pre-releases. I'll occasionally play with a friend, but it's not to the same degree as it was for me in high school.

@berndb3141 5 лет назад

Great episode you guys. Thanks a lot.

@Ashen-Crow 5 лет назад

I'm surprised you didn't mention lore, it got me neck deep back into Magic after a really long break

@JIWelles 4 года назад

One of the best times I've ever had was the chaosdraft my friends and I organised. A combination of kamigawa, unstable, dragons gate and ixalan was very weird but super fun!

@GoodMorningHikers 5 лет назад

You don’t have to change much to avoid burnout sometimes. Sometimes all you need is a change of play style. I got bored as hell of all of my endless control decks, got bored, built a silly goblin deck for fun and had a blast

@themaddhadder4826 5 лет назад

I get decision fatigue pretty hard, so this really speaks to me

@GatheringtheMagic 5 лет назад

I love these episodes! Would love to do this for one of my MtG videos.

@gokoly_f8498 5 лет назад

This is all great advise, recently I’ve been abit burnt out so I’ve been building commander decks so me and my friends can all play, many of which can’t afford edh decks but love the game, I’m also going to a magicfest over summer to freshen things up. I’m planning on just drafting, playing commander and chatting and since this even being organised I’ve had the energy for standard because it reminds me of why I play

@richardoaks8333 5 лет назад

Great episode!

@AceDRoses 5 лет назад

I just felt this yesterday!

@SidneyGutteridge 5 лет назад

Warhammer has a very similar thing, as it costs an arm and a leg. I quit both Warhammer and magic for about 10 years before jumping back in. No regrets

@malkavian6275 5 лет назад

I just don't play or look at the game for a few months, then I go back into a commander game loving it again. Just take breaks.

@RyeFields 5 лет назад

I love how you guys mentioned commander... It's all my shop runs and I wish somebody else would build a modern deck...

@aidennoir597 5 лет назад

As a Commander player with 7 diverse decks that I all love to play, the thought of breaking any of them apart makes me feel very sad. 😔 It does help though that my LGS has Commander nights on Monday and runs Commander for FNM, so I have plenty of opportunities to play each one.

@ibanezplayer8080 5 лет назад

As someone who got burnt out from grinding I kinda took a step back for a while, focused down on a deck or 2 and worked on general archetypes. (I mainly play GY decks.) I started limiting how far I would drive for events. (this one was huge since I do events alone primarily so a 3 hour drive to an event that you likely don't day 2 is brutal when you do the drive back the same day.) The other thing I really started doing was brewing my own deck. The hope isn't to win but just to see what you can build and how to build it best. Makes the game a lot more fun when you start futzing around with cards you haven't looked at in ages. I've been on BR Vampires and even brought it to an open and had a huge amount of fun. You go in expecting nothing but learning and research not to win necessarily but to have fun. I personally liked testing my own creation against people playing their hardest and best because it's a larger event.

@kursna 2 года назад

I've been playing mtg for 14 years and just came back from a couple years break. The point of looking through old tubs of cards is very relevant as I was able to find about $600 in cards that were worthless at the time but now some of them were 20x the price they were when I threw them in tubs. I was able to build a brand new commander deck off mostly trades because I looked through my old stuff

@RobertsonUku 5 лет назад

My first experience of full on Magic burnout was at GP Toronto. My friends and I drove down, left at 5:30am, arrived in Toronto at 10am, played side events and on demand events until 10pm, got dinner, and then played more EDH back at the AirBnB. The exhaustion I felt that night was REAL... But then we spent the next two days doing the same. The burnout was worth it!

@tevinsigl3978 5 лет назад

When do you guys post the podcasts to apple podcast? I want to listen to it while I’m at work.

@trytoxania7020 5 лет назад

I’m still getting into magic and it feels like I’m being sucked down a whirlpool, I don’t want it to be my identity but I’m becoming more and more obsessed and it feels like I have no choice in the matter. 🤷‍♂️

@daltongrimes7850 5 лет назад

“Some of the rap.” 😂😂 Thank you, Professor!

@LordXypherious 5 лет назад

Well timed, this is. I'll be backing off of standard for the foreseeable future- the expense and there being little room to brew my own decks greatly reduce my enjoyment of the format. Next time I'm in my LGS I think I'll make a suggestion or two about holding events for pauper...... @Vince- go have a gander at a 40k forum called Dakkadakka and prepare to be AMAZED. I swear, the MTG subreddits are actually an IMPROVEMENT.

@JpDubbed 5 лет назад

This resonated with me so much. I have 4 CMDR decks and I even feel like it's too many resources spread thin, too many options, and it's not really focused. Gonna break apart 1 now....to finish the manabase for one of the other ones 😂😂😂

@gwalden 5 лет назад

2:35 professor's smile was freaking me out

@sethmasters2147 5 лет назад

Any suggestions for cost? For example I really want to play the new sultai phoenix deck in legacy, which seems sweet and right up my playstyle, but most of my friends are casuals, and no one else want to put effort into trying new things.

@Pastlebox 5 лет назад

I really need to watch this when I get home. Only playing commander and having a need to build crazy good versions of decks means burning out happened recently. Commander is good but if your playgroup isn't used to your style or level or play, alienation occurs. Burning out because people are negative towards you wanting to make great (not winning on turn 3) decks

@jamespooh2 5 лет назад

Sounds like you're at a higher level than your meta, friend if they don't want to go up in level that's cool. Best thing to do is build a deck for their level of play and find a group that plays at that level that you like. Keep your friends and play the way you want

@imdavid78 5 лет назад

I am definitely kindof burnt out on arena, while the system itself is great. Paper magic is so much more fun and standard get boring quickly.

@darkjigoo 5 лет назад

Oblivionator36 I relate. Really looking forward to when arena modern comes around though.

@Lexender 5 лет назад

Thats because you play a few games in paper in the weekends, in Arena you can easily play 50+ games in a week even if you play like 30-45 minutes a day.

@GF102463 5 лет назад

What the hell?! You're getting burnt out on Arena? It's so much fun(tm)! Don't you love leaving one monored game to go into another opponent's on the play T1 Mountain + Fanatical Firebrand?

@DaveMartinCanuck 4 года назад

Use Arena to build a deck, then buy the paper cards you need. ARENA Can be a great deck building tool

@elvisalcomb2098 5 лет назад

thank you for this video

@tobiaskainer4685 5 лет назад

I had a little burnout when i discovered edhrec and other great sources for deckbuilding. Never fell in love for a commander deck i build since then and deck building was never the same for me

@maxbloomfield540 5 лет назад

Herr Kainer the trick is to brew on pen and paper and putting on some 80s pop. Just time warp yourself back to pre-internet and let your creativity run wild

@bookstooge5294 5 лет назад

That's a real problem for me too. Too easy to net-deck and lose all the fun of brewing. i tend to just search Gatherer for certain keywords and write down all 200+ cards in a word file. Then I can start trimming for what I really want the deck to do.

@maxbloomfield540 5 лет назад

If you’re going to use the internet to deckbuild, you could limit it to gatherer advanced search. That’s a really fun way of doing it. You kinda feel like a student studying at the library trying to put together a set of spells for a journey

@faultier1158 5 лет назад

@@maxbloomfield540 That's what I have been doing, too! The result was a Zur the Enchanter reanimator deck. A commander that has the reputation of creating super dreadful gameplay actually enabled a super fun reanimator deck. Just open a deckbuilder on one screen and Scryfall on another screen and let your creativity do its thing!

@brianmeeker162 5 лет назад

I relate to this discussion a lot. I recently spent a couple of weeks grinding leagues on MTGO in the evening to prep for SCG Cincinnati. In the week after the event I repeatedly thought how funny it was that I thought that I needed to relax during the evening. I had been spending my free time playing Magic. Why did I need to relax? Why did I need a week "off" from a hobby?

@Giby86 5 лет назад

I feel the opposite about the number of decks to maintain. The way I don't get burnout playing Commander is I constantly build and rebuild decks. I now have the full chromatic spectrum, 32 decks, one for every possible color combination, plus my "pet" deck that I never even consider unsleeving, plus my "travel deck" that I always bring along, just in case, plus 6 pauper commander decks. They are all ready to go and I rotate them every Magic night. Oh, and I'm not rich: turns out you can absolutely play Commander without expensive manabases. It's a multiplayer format, basic lands and cheap duals work just fine.

@dohc16vturbo4g63 3 года назад

One question: how do you shuffle so many cards? I can barely shuffle 60 😂

@Giby86 3 года назад

@@dohc16vturbo4g63 I usually make two piles, shuffle each, then grab half of each and make two different piles and shuffle those, and I rinse and repeat a few times, so I basically always shuffle 50 cards each time.

@dohc16vturbo4g63 3 года назад

@@Giby86 that makes sense, but I bet it's tedious if you have to mulligan lol

@Giby86 3 года назад

@@dohc16vturbo4g63 not really... I mean it takes up time during the game, for tutoring and stuff... We usually shortcut the tutoring and shuffling by announcing what we're going to get and then actually doing it during others' turns

@Escapist26 5 лет назад

That rap was horrific! I'm a commander player and sometimes find it overwhelming with how much there is to the game; standard/arena, modern, the periodic "outrage". I can definitely see how this can burn people out. I'm just taking it slow- dipping my toes into standard/arena and continuing to play our periodic commander game

@FANTAVISION 5 лет назад

"That was a piece of crap, Brian." I laughed way too hard at that.

@eusouzoom 5 лет назад

I really love that you had this discussion. I must ask: How much time of the day/week is healthy for a person to dedicate to Magic (content included)?? For people that doesn't work with it, I mean.

@noxouphe4370 5 лет назад

I play between 1 and 6 hours a week.

@eusouzoom 5 лет назад

I have a list of creators I always watch, so I watch 2+hours of Magic content daily and normally one game night of 6~8 hours pwr week. Let aside the time i'm browsing for good prices to buy Cards... I honestly think I have an addiction problem

@Kattywagon29 5 лет назад

Professor, my mom likes to play and collect magic cards. Every set that comes out prompts her to have drafts at the house with food and stuff. She always orders a variety pack from our LGS and she uses this as a way to open her booster boxes. She keeps all the cards of course, but its a fun way to draft when you can make different choices than you might at your shop. You are never tempted to money or rare draft and hate drafting isn't a thing...well except this one time that I took a slimefoot I didn't need because I knew I couldn't deal with the saproling deck that I could see was being built. I'm a degenerate, I know, but that's not the point! LOL

@lordsoth-en4nb 5 лет назад

I found that building a deck that is the complete opposite of what you normally play can do it. I usually play decks with black or green so I built a Narset edh deck. It was the most fun I have had in a while.

@xx_resinent.sage_xx7373 5 лет назад

I find that playing base level mtg or hearthstone can help

@zimzyma 5 лет назад

This is an interesting topic, which I come across a lot with mentees in my career. It’s different than a hobby like mtg, they are getting paid in a career they chose, but the advice is the same: ask yourself why you are there. Understanding what drives you is key to getting the most out of everything you do. If you enjoy winning and being competitive, then I like their advice of tracking your results, taking notes on your mistakes or weaknesses (key: without judging yourself harshly) so you can see your progress along the way and keep motivated. Me, I’ve discovered I actually enjoy the intellectual exercise of deck building more than anything else, so I play commander. It doesn’t matter if I win, as long as I did something cool and maybe even unique. I actually rarely play - maybe a couple of games, one day a month, and not every month. But I watch a lot of content and I enjoy that. Find out what drives your enjoyment, and focus on that to avoid burning out. And if you do burn out, step away give yourself a break, and check in once a month on the happenings in the game, new sets, etc. if something doesn’t pique your interest to come back to MTG, find something new that you will enjoy!

@Cotten55 4 года назад

I totally agree, switching hit can help in not just just magic the gathering, but also in so many areas of you're life. If you're constantly doing the same things over and over again yea life is going to get dull and boring really quick. Do everything in moderation!

@Robert-iz5fu 5 лет назад

I'm only starting to get into paper MTG but what I'm starting to think about to break the mold is just to bring regular Skat cards for an inbetween round of Skat, Mau or Offizierskat, when you have to wait for your next game. I, however, don't know how popular or common these games are outside of Germany.

@benhensley3621 3 года назад

This is one of the best intros, for sure.

@LocdOut82 5 лет назад

I'm glad I don't feel burnout on stuff I truly love. This DTR has been amazing anyways though. I absolutely love this series. I wish there were like 2 a week lol.

@akararora6954 5 лет назад

Oh look! It's Dies To Removal, the bi-annual Magic : The Gathering podcast, with The professor and PleasantKenobi.

@sneakysquirrel1990 5 лет назад

At least the episodes are more frequent than when wedge was on

@s.a.hellenbrand8450 5 лет назад

Fantastic episode, gentlemen. I love magic because there are so many different ways to enjoy it. Daniel: I'm just scared. You know, the tournament and everything.. Mr. Miyagi: You remember lesson about balance? Daniel: Yeah. Mr. Miyagi: Lesson not just karate only. Lesson for whole life. Whole life have a balance. Everything be better.

@capoa2 5 лет назад

Playing modern doesnt burn me out too much. I always run into different decks and because I often lose, I seek and practice ways I can improve my choices. Even during a long magic weekend, I try to evaluate my games and improve

@sloth9669 5 лет назад

A while back at a gp I player team limited. Got a hotel Friday into Saturday. Saturday I played 13 hours and qualified for day two. 2 hour drive each way so 6 hours sleep and another 8 hours of playing on day two. I didn’t want to play again for weeks.

@Civera89 5 лет назад

Traded all of my standard cards for modern and am having a blast.

@zackmorris1144 5 лет назад

Yes!

@dohc16vturbo4g63 3 года назад

I took my old decks from 2012/2013 when I first started playing and modified them to run modern. They may not be Tier 1 or 2, but they're fairly competitive while still maintaining the casualness element.

@GanicoGSx 5 лет назад

Sorry that isn't Magic-related but it still relates to burnout because that is what I still felt with Cardfight Vanguard (CFV) atm. And not wanting the same to happen to Magic. Being stuck with only a single deck to work with and unable to change it much because of being on a budget. Then you start to get envious about how other people are playing multiple decks, especially with the latest set. Unlike Magic, the pressure kinda builds up when booster sets are being released on a monthly basis. I guess I find MTG somewhat refreshing after getting back into it in Fall of 2018. I want to get into Commander but kinda struggling to build a Temur deck from scratch since the 2011 pre-con is currently going for $100 (USD), including shipping.

@dakotadoak7665 5 лет назад

When I have the beginning feeling of burnout I build a new deck something that goes against my typical play style. The only time I had a serious case of burnout was right after Journey into Nyx block and it took me years to get out of the funk.

@iiGiacomo 5 лет назад

How long does a co-host stay on dies to removal? I love listening to Vince & Prof’s conversations and would like to continue to hear them.

@PleasantKenobi 5 лет назад

I'm here to stay my friend.

@Insanonaga 5 лет назад

James Stevens I think before it was an issue of timing for wedge. Already, prof and vince have more than double the amount of content than prof and wedge did. Good sign.

@Sedyneb 5 лет назад

Solid comedy timing on the opening skit.

@astranger934 5 лет назад

I'm not burnt out but I am helping in hosting an online magic tournament. We have a 64 player tournament set on discord played on arena, and I'm very much looking forward to how it pans out!

@astranger934 5 лет назад

@@Lock2002ful We're using an online service called Toornament in addition to the discord server

@tylerkaune9070 5 лет назад

Oof. That Commander section really got to me lol. I don't always agree with ya, Prof and Kenobi. But I really appreciate what y'all try to do, and I appreciate that ya get into those hard to talk about conversations. I'm gonna try (as best I can lol) to downsize from my 20 (!) Commander decks. It's hard when you love deck building

@allistercain6591 5 лет назад

I never got burned out but life took me away from the game. I am coming back to it after ten years and excited to get back into it.

@BlinkyFizz 5 лет назад

The Burnout series was great. My favourites were the first one and Revenge. Good times.

@anthonyaquariusmontoya1157 5 лет назад

I just sold all of my bulk binders so glad I’ve downsized I’ve been on break form MTG for a few months

@ethanfordford6621 5 лет назад

I mean I take 6 months breaks when I am burned out by playing legacy, modern, and cube... but I am going to try out standard actually now and it’s kinda exciting

@ethanfordford6621 5 лет назад

Pumpin George for me it’s exciting as I haven’t played standard in years and I’m not quitting the other formats just taking a break from them and trying out standard as it looks fun to me

@SRH420Gaming-ql9vp 2 дня назад

Im so glad i quite making RU-vid videos myself this past year. In hindsight I dont think that I could handled blowing up to the level TCC and LRR, and Pleasant Kenobi. I had a heart attack in Dec of 2022 and was in the hospital until Jan of 2023 from making content 3 times a week for each of my 3 old RU-vid channels. So traveling and meeting people would probably have killed me.

@nrocp0p424 5 лет назад

Just took a 2 month hiatus. Played EDH every week 1-2 times a week for almost 3 years. Just couldn't get excited about anything related to magic at all. I put everything away and didn't think about magic for a while. The first thing I did when I came back was throwing away all the jank I amassed over all those years. It felt so good.

@antoniopaolitto2181 5 лет назад

I have been hosting fnm for more then ten years, every friday rain or shine. The best this is that you build your own group (over 50 people) and weed out the undesirables. Apart for having to deal with that, it has been great therapy for me and the people coming over. Btw i say build all the decks you want and use proxies, who cares anyways. Personally i own all my proxies but i dont care if others do. :) Great show thanx. :)

@bernardovetrano7571 5 лет назад

Professor could you cover something about Magic in south america? i mean the vlog from brazil was great! but maybe something that helps to put the rest of the region community here on the map, last year luis Salvatto from my country Argentina was player of the year, maybe is the beginning of something...Thank you!!

@TheEzzran 5 лет назад

In this intro: The Professor and PleasantKenobi Die To Removal.

@luliby2309 4 года назад

I love how the Prof uses his awkwardness and older age for comical effect. Listen to some of "the rap music" and while they're "busting rhymes" you should "bust with them". XD

@emdub9679 5 лет назад

Focusing is something I am doing, I start making a deck then I change my mind. WASTING MONEY! So now I am working on the one deck I was super close to finishing, everything else I will sell up my unused cards.

@danacoleman4007 5 лет назад

I'll tell you right now I'm burnt out on playing arena! I really want to love this game but I'm really sick and tired of getting hosed by the shuffler with not getting enough land. When I build a deck I typically use the land package suggested by the computer. And yet, very often I'll get stuck on 3 lands through sometimes as many as eight turns which means of course I lose the game. Pretty sick of it.

@JasperJanssen 5 лет назад

Maybe you should take the lesson that you should get a few more lands on there than the computer thinks.

@adamreece5498 5 лет назад

This was a killer dies to removal love this podcast

@UpsidedownHandshake 5 лет назад

I am actually in the middle of a magic burnout. This video is fantastic

@SslashFlex 2 года назад

"Some of the rap music" 🤣🤣 The prof's old man explanations are the best

@Caabooose 5 лет назад

I am a pretty good magic player, I get burnt out when im just not interested or bored. after my first RPTQ (bant coco days) I went even, which is all I really try for tbh, I like to try to win my money back but even is acceptable. but i digress, after the RPTQ I just had no interest in getting back to it, it was fun but I just didn't care about that anymore, so I still went to FNM's and such for almost a year before going to PPTQ's again and ended up going to a few more RPTQ's (to be fair I have to fly or drive 10+ hours to get to the nearest RPTQ so its a bit rough here for that) even as someone who has won or done well at bigger tournaments like F2F Opens or Nationals I only ever go in looking to go 50% if I do that or better im feeling great if I do worse well there is always next time sometimes im down because I know I made a mistake that cost me a game/a match that I should know better about at this point, or feel bad when a game goes super long and despite 2 for 1ing my opponent multiple times they have drawn 2-3 more times the spells and its just impossible to keep up with that variance lol but that's magic and nothing you can do but play as well as you can with the cards given to you and your opponent.

@howdoifixmyspacebar 5 лет назад

D&D (RPGs in general) can absolutely be a lifestyle game, or you can play it once every few years and have a good time. It can be just as expensive as MTG though if you DM or just want to bring new campaigns/settings to your group. The reason that RPGs don't have as much of a burnout factor as CCGs is that they're open-ended game systems with a ton of freedom to vary each play session : you can play whatever campaign you can think up or dig up online. Even if you're a powergamer and only play vanilla-ass Forgotten Realms, just rolling a different class, on top of the variance from checks and DM choices, makes replaying the same campaign a very different experience. Whereas, with any CCG constructed format, you're going to be playing one of a few decks against the same dozen decks for months at a time.