DO NARCISSISTS TREAT THE NEW SUPPLY BETTER? Is the Narcissist Happy with the new supply? 

True. Everything is black or it's white ❤🙏

You paraphrased what I say to myself all the time. "It was fun while it was fun, and then it wasn't" Unfortunately "wasn't" was the reality.

sophie morrison 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

sophie morrison I love how you put your words 💯

@@CommonEgo what if their new supply is an overt narcissist and makes a decent amount of money? My ex narc left me because her and her family are broke and money is a dire essential for them. He lives in a different state and flies her out or will fly out to her. He get's to have his space and other women while shoveling a little money for another woman on the list

I think that's probably one of the first things that's obvious. They *really* aren't happy people. And thank you! Love your channel too! Congrats on the 2k milestone ❤🙏🎉

Thanks to you both for your channels. So much valuable information for us in this community ❤️❤️ Much love and healing to us all. Please keep the videos coming, they are so valuable and helpful!!!!

At the core, they are unhappy with themselves. And the only thing that makes them feel better is making you feel bad.

And its all your fault why she wasn’t happy. Nothing she did or didn’t do made her unhappy. The lie i was also told. I talked to my ex on the ph three weeks ago before i went no contact. And yes she is not happy. Has got nothing, yet., Her old guy new target is not treating her like a god Yet.

But they sure pretend well...

This is true, they are serial daters most of the time. Moving on quickly, I ignored the red flags from her friend who told me she always needed to have a guy in her life for validation and self worth.

My EX would reminded me constantly how she was always lonely, and miserable when I wouldn't stay the night. She would remind me she always feels lonely and sad even after we had amazing day together.

Same here!!! And he never posted me on social media all 3 years we were on and off. I don’t think he’s posting her but she has their relationship all over her page. Little does she know, I her blocked voicemails and calls from his daily asking to see me again and hook up. Complete fraud.

@@sarahford5532 Omg same! my ex posted me twice in four years 🙂 fuck them! She will learn his true ways eventually! we are free from abuse and a life of misery!!

@@sarahford5532 word. It's the worst...

I wish to give you a hug because I went and felt the sane way as you, but I live and let love fly free I live by that.

@@Ayixlia ❤️❤️❤️

Its so hard because my kids go over her house on weekends and always come back with a story buy im praying for healing

lol plagiarized! I had a similar experience. my former spouse liked to write very romantic poems to catch his prey. I feel unhappy with myself for falling for it, but no contact works great. I just wish all his monkeys would get a clue!

Dwyane and Deanne Garman At last my husband had a heart attack and died. Talk about no contact.

Wooow sicko

They gave romantic song for his new supply on FB..n made that new supply feeling as princes.. She mocked there

They are not particularly smart or talented, so of course he stole a poem and claimed it as his own. They are thieves in every sense.

Omg yess exactly! Just went through this🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

💯 Down right true!

My one has no close friends. She is so low self esteem she took advice from an old couple, without telling them the full story. It was dumb what she has done in my opinion. I will sit back and watch the train wreck unfold. Bad times are coming. Not just for her. And I don’t want her back after what she did and said to me. Am happy when she left she took my family demons with her.

Very try im still in the hurt process and why her and not me but I'm slowly adjusting to its all bs this new girl and it's now her crazy

@@lenda211 why her and not me? Keep reminding yourself...she's the one getting cheated on and lied to. Don't buy into the illusion. Behind closed doors he is giving her the silent treatment and disrespect. Bet he's on his phone watching porn and ignoring her. So think thank God it's not you. You deserve better.

Great advice for anyone who can swing it! ❤🙏

That is the most concise summary ever. Perfect. I think that troubled nature was always visible; drawing the "white knight" inside us into a rescue mission. Lesson learnt.

Imagine your whole life as a never ending defense mechanism. We all use them. But we don't become them. A denial so strong that makes you behave like a lunatic (narcissistic rage) whenever you feel it threatened.

NO CONTACT ova here !

Hard to go no contact with kids

It's a great feeling 🙏❤

God bless you for having the strength and wish you nothing but the best moving forward

Amen

This is a great comment. It went from 100 down to zero in two years.

this is so true, but u know, I can't help but blame myself for the failure of our relationship. My ex said that if I had acted a certain way and hadn't had sex with him too early in the relationship, he wouldn't have disrespected me and would've treated me better. I kinda believe him but I have my doubts, I low key don't know what's real and who's to blame anymore

@@anya4304 They will say whatever they have to in order to hit a nerve with their blame-shifting. "If only this, if only that" - don't listen to a word of it. It comes back to him - "if only he was more respectful, if only he treated you the way that you deserve to be treated". You are not to blame for his shitty behaviour, so please redirect it back to its rightful owner. Be kind to yourself. Always. :)

@@anya4304 part of their game. Its just to hurt you and fill you with self doubt and take the focus of of THEM. You are wrong, do NOT blame yourself. Nothing was real. Nothing will ever be real for them, you have to pity them.

More love and power to you I just did the same !

@@kaylacharles4930 I am so proud of you, you can do it!

Naidza Sky thank you so much!

Thank you for sharing. I am in a good space finally and this gives me hope🙏🏽

He don't post her on social media but he do try to introduce her to are kids and keep bringing her up to his family and want everyone to meet her which indicates to me he's very much into het and has fallen in love what's bothering me is how fast he jumped in this relationship when we was together the entire 5 months we was separated we was very much still together he would invite me over say he miss me and then boom he cut off all contact and started telling people he in a relationship keep in mine prior before are separation we was married for 25 yrs so while its hard for me to move on and I'm still emotionally invested not because of my history with this man but to know through are 5 month separation he kep playing in my face telling me we can work on us and inviting me over for meals conversations and making me think he was very much still interested when in reality he has moved on but had me on the side in case it didn't work out with his new supply so I don't know if he's really happy if she's a rebound or if he's really inlove or was just using me until he was ready to be with her dud he really love me?? Why was it so quick for him to throw me away and completely cut off all contact he barley reach out to are kids anymore he's a completely different person he went out and brought all new clothes foot wear new phone he did a complete make over and for the 25 yrs I been with him he refused to ever wear any name brand sneakers or clothes im struggling with so many questions why?? How and I will never get closure because he told me it was all my fault he been hurting and unhappy for 25 yrs he been with me but the last 5 months of are separation he told me he missed me loved me and invited me constantly to his home even got mad sometimes when I would decline

That's can be true! I wouldn't go out of my way to explain it to someone who hasn't seen it firsthand. It's too hard for people to understand the mind of the narcissist, and it's much easier for them to believe you're exaggerating. But most of us here have seen it and experienced it, and we know you're not crazy. It's straight out of their playbook ❤🙏

Common Ego thank god I am not alone!

@@FROSTYFEET874 Hey...trust me Karnell, your far from alone here and it's totally mind blowing just how many other's are going through similar horrendously debilitating and heartless situations likewise. Obviously we've all heard of Narcissism, but I'd no idea so many even exist out there & the untold damage and purposeful heartbreak they are causing & yet just walk away and keep on starting over again & again. I swear they are soulless monsters in a fake human body!!! Take good care of yourself and any genuine loved one's!!! Fastereft.com may help recovery also a fab Neuroscientist called Dr. Joe Dispenza is worth looking up! shalowm 🌈🙂👍💜

Angie Jackson thank you

Angie Jackson thank you so much honestly , really have been a tough couple of months but what makes this so weird and unusual this isn’t the first time I was discarded but like the 2 or 3rd time . She never sees what she does wrong but loves to point the finger at you.

I did the same with my ex gf. They are very sick ppl.

Same here

Mine was furious that I did not stick around and was the one to petition for divorce almost immediately upon discovering his infidelity.

@Katrin Hoffmann my husband cut my credit cards cut my cell phone closed the joint accounts to hold the money out so I could have nothing His main aim was to prevent me from getting a lawyer and to starve me out to force me to comply with his alimony demands but my twin sister sent me money and I now have a very good lawyer who is an expert at dealing with narcissists thank God

@@sylviaking8866 mine blamed me for everything

Amen

Got one already it’s tore me up

it's a game for sure. my ex overt narc used to tell me "the one who cares more, loses." what a sicko. he was infatuated with WINNING at all cost. he went on to get multiple new "supplies" until his early death. karma got him! i have no doubt.

@@fooled_twice4668 how'd he die

@@joey_youtube he started going schizoid- alone in most ways- plus he had alcohol abuse, probably narcotic abuse, bad hips requiring surgery followed by falls, multiple hip infections, a post-op complication, anoxic brain injury, then another 4 years in nursing homes. seriously ironic, as he had been an orthopedic surgeon in life! he literally self-destructed. and alienated his wife (me) then our 3 kids as his ship sank.

@@fooled_twice4668 holy fucking christ BABAHAHAHAHA THIS MAN WENT THROUGH LIKE 10 PEOPLE'S KARMA JESUS FUCK

Omg same as my experience

Same. I learn that too. I was like I'm way prettier and smarter than this clown. They always go for downgrades sometimes. My thing was she did real estate and she wasn't really good at it what I seen not to say just because. I just could tell from the editing and stuff. Yes I was the why and what was he thinking? But, it all started to make sense now. Do not get me wrong some can make good money and some don't make good money but, settle what they got. She settles what she got and she already had 4 to 5 kids before then. She was looking for a figure for her kids. She pick the wrong one. He only using her for a place to stay because I kicked him out. Plus, she believes his lies. She end up pregnant like a fool she is acting like they happy now? He abandoned the kids he had and she knew about me before I knew she even existed. She was a side. 🤔 A back up plan he not into but, uses when needed like the rest. He also, had 3 kids before me and I had one. We had two later on. I found out I was pregnant he knew and didn't bother to help out but, play fake family with her now. It's wild. I hope she knows she a homewrecker and he ain't nothing. He uses her for things he needs and now act like he has a business all of a sudden? He is using her. She will learn. I'm free from it. Thank you moron. Me and my kids will just be fine. Who's laughing now. Don't be surprised he leave one day and get more fools like you pregnant. I had to learn the hard way. She knew better then I did. She knew about me and knew not to get involved.

Thank you so much for this post! It is helping me get through this Christmas. Broke up September of 21, Left Dec. 12th 21, Last Contact (an accident he showed up to my ex husbands and was shooed off eventually) anyway been NO Contact since July 22, the pain IS starting to pass finally, but still struggling with the aftermath of the abuse. So thank you for these words of encouragement!

I definitely agree..... And foolish me taught him so much about narcissism.... Guess what is more dangerous than a narc?? An educated narc.....

HD Tudor states that the average narc does what they do as defense mechanisms or instinct. There are those who know who they are and what they do and they don't care how they impact others. The rest act out of instinct that they developed as children to get a small percentage of the needs the adults in their lives were not meeting met. Do to George Simmons material I had adopted the belief Narcs knew exactly what they were doing and did it on purpose. I think there are those who indeed do, but the large number of them do not. I do think they do know what has worked to get them their way and they do some things with the knowledge, but it's more because they are entitled to get their way and have things there way because their way is so superior. They are aware that society doesn't approve of their behavior, but that's because society just understand.

Yessss!!! I agree, manipulation at it's finest!

Yep we unknowingly perpetuate pain.

I actually "bonded" with my narc's ex-boyfriend to learn how he dealt with the smear campaign. She'd been running the same smear on him for years that she was now running on me. I told him "I think she's cluster B", and he chuckled and told me all about it....he had become a walking encyclopedia on this subject. Now her new supply is a former friend of mine, so that's how she tried to hurt me- by taking away a friend circle. I have her blocked on social media so can't see them doing anything to trigger me. He should be joining our little club soon, although he's lasted a bit longer than I have

Im the ex who put aware to the new girl, of my covert narc but they are calling me crazy, I just left that as it is and move on...she will learn with experience!

I apologized to her. I really felt bad. She was one of the people that helped me move on and to feel better. She knew what I was feeling. She helped me a lot.

Exactly

The more the NARC gives them, the more they will lose in the end and aftermath of the relationship, they give and get supply, they take each thing and destroy it for the negative fuel and supply !

That's an accurate description. Except narc candy is more like those BeanBoozled jelly beans. They look normal on the outside, but after a bite or two you realize you got swindled 😅

Their candy rots your teeth in nanoseconds

Oh wow..mine said the very same thing...strange indeed..didn’t realize it then though..”I was being love bombed”..better believe I’m FULLY AWAKE NOW..and I’m also Divorcing that.

@@alesiafoster7750 yes, me too, divorcing after 26 yrs of lies. I know, I should have done it years ago but did not know there was a name for his abuse until after final breakup. They need to educate college students. Mandatory!!

yep mine always reminded me how good he treated me and how I won't find anyone to treat me as good

@@user-cf4jj8gb8p my ex said the same thing to me. Wow

I remember how angry the ex boyfriend acted towards me, and her. She told me they had broken up, but he, like me now, would never have had closure. Perhaps I expect, she been sleeping with him while she found me. I'm so thankful for these series of videos. To understand what happened, and to be prepared for what's coming. I'd have never believed someone could treat a lover so cruel.

That's incredibly heartless. I'm sorry you went through that ❤🙏

Common Ego 🙏🏻thank you. i’m just so grateful to be free from him. never again!

Inbelievable, stay strong!

Rositsa Росица thank you💖 🙏🏻i am surprised to say i am! and grateful for the most difficult lesson, now i know it’ll NEVER happen again.

@@Alpinewild444 Well Done You "wildflower" 🌹🌈😍you can be very proud of what you've achieved!!! Much Love 💝

Thank you

My ex-husband married a woman he met while she was in medical school. He was in his 40s, with two kids, and in the middle of a child-custody trial. I feel so sorry for her, because I know he will destroy her. I am just thankful that when she is there, he pretends he is the perfect father, and thus treats my children better. She is now 28; he is 46.

i do. its easier to do this by sticking to no contact. & its easier to listen to her when she doesnt act like shes got sneaky alterior motives. easier but its still hard. me kind of... letting him & his fam. treat me like crap, now i just dc how his mom reacts when i keep my residency private. im not being crazy. its crazy to enable your son when u know hes been abusive in all the above ways. ill never forget the day when she asked me to do more of my part +and told me thats what it was like being a woman, a wife. i told her dont ever dare me what its like to be a woman when u couldnt ever teach your sons to be men. but im sure she had no part in that 1. if i wanted to be real ugly i shouldve said is thats y are your marriages failed? bc even tho id like to think im completely cut off & independent from my toxic family i def still think they affect me in alotta ways i didnt even see coming. like if they can make it work, sh anyone could. & even tho i dont like them tho, i do admire the courage they always had to face adversity. mustve been scary. but i guess when ur kids turn out to be like u... in ways. anyways, im just so bad at bold face lying, me in the moment, trying to be vague: describes what the whole damn n.hood looks like. & its like in the middle of no where ... :/ is that throw offish enough? bc i still said the city, ugh. i know his mom legit wont keep her mouth shut even if she claims she does. shes just the horrible liar type that cant even keep up w/ her own bs. the main thing for me is that i had a baby w/ this d.bag. anything relative to my innocent baby is like wth can i even do w/ out collecting charges? bc in all truth, thats the only tie i have to these toxic ppl .. if i didnt have this baby i wouldve been long gone not even bothering w/ his mom & them. unfortunately, im stuck thinking about these ppl for the rest of my life. as far as the other woman .. girl! she really ignorantly thought that by saying well youre the 1 whos stuck w/ him lol, was some come kind of knock. like youre a damn knock off is what u r. wearing stuff i threw to the side, listening to his same lines he prob tells everyone, giving him the experience hell prob ignorantly gain to use on someone else... bc no, were not actually all the same. so like what youre implying is that youre ignorantly desperate & easy, right? bc not sure which direction youre going w/ that. i bet it is easier "being" w/ her ... but good luck w/ that anyways. shes such a creep to me. no 1 asked rapey vibes. my kid would hate her, duh. like her own predictably will. bc as far as my side, my pov of things, them kids r not mine! i have enough of my actual Own responsibilities, you prob really wouldnt ever want to leave your kids w/ me knowing how they (him & her) operate. im not heartless but ill see it for what it actually is. stranger kids. id leave them at a daycare or shove em in a box at the fire dpt or something :/. im just overdue ranting now but im so sick of em. id be lying if i said i never had thoughts of just burning the bridge on them entirely. like im a runaway kid. this isnt new to me... yeah i can get caught up in my head. what my next move is tho... theyll find out .. hahaha w/ a hunded wives & kids tho. like nah dawg, send them to that cult place. like johava witnesses or wever. bc im out. these other bishes, more the power to ya .. bc yall deserve each other, truly. its laughable to me, the masks.

My husband moved on while we were separated. Didn’t bother to get a divorce. I had to divorce him

Same here, boyfriend of 18 years is marrying not even a year after our separation… he abused me badly the last 10 years. Ive been so depressed about this but after watching all theese clips I feel sorry for the new girl.

Yep new supply was already being groomed even before the divorce proceedings started. Got the divorce in April he married in May. Pathetic parasites.

Same omg she's great right on time

It's so sad when kids are involved, but I'm glad to hear you're out. I find the trauma bond fascinating too. Wild how this all works ❤🙏

What is trauma bonding?

@@lilaclavender1989 The video went out yesterday, so you can watch for an explanation ❤🙏

Thank you i'm actually watching the video right now!

@@lilaclavender1989 awesome... hope you like it! ❤

Same. It's a fine line between taking ownership for your role and taking responsibility for things you don't own. And when you're trauma bonded, that line is very blurry ❤🙏

@@CommonEgo thank you for that! Yes it was trauma bonding even though it was a long-distance relationship, meeting perhaps 8 days a month. I tied to break it off probably 6 times over the year. But she did just enough to keep me trapped. That juju was powerful stuff!

The problem is that the individual who is showing up is so far different then the person in the love bombing stage who we thought was a real individual, and the decline into devaluation is a slow one, with minor small incidents that seem so tiny and inconsistent with who we know them to be we explain away the behavior as accidental. We all know that at times we are inconsistent, and we so want to believe the person we thought them to be that to resolve the cognitive dissonance we explain away things, until finally the behavior is so inconsistent it hits us like a ton of bricks and we can see everything clear as night and day. What I've learned is if someone is treating me in a way that is stressful, regardless of the reason why ( abuse, bad childhood), I need to cut them from my life or give them a wide birth by not allowing them to be part of any type of intimate relationship. That was my bad explaining away the last narcs behavior due to her "childhood abuse."

The narc picked you! They picked you because you are a strong, good, kind, caring, empathetic person. Because you were a very good supply for them. Yes, you must look at your part in it. Whatever it may be. I will tell you though. If you were only in the relationship for a year. Thank whoever it is you pray to man!!! And consider yourself very lucky! I spent 7 years with a Covert narc. And she destroyed my life in every way possible, before a truly horrible discard. Remember , especially with a Covert narc, that the good traits in you will attract a narc. Because they don't posses those traits, or the ability to cultivate them. And the person they presented to you wasn't a real person. Only bait, to convince you to care for them. If you are a good trusting person. You wouldn't think of doing anything like that. And therfore, don't typically consider someone else to be doing that to you! Hope you're doing well.

@@barthk3640 I spent 6yrs and have 2 kids and was engaged and I felt every word they will fuck you up

U are gorgeous n deserve better

Hope you better now

Same happened to me refused to lend him money like usual then he left

That's true, and I'm glad to hear you're out now 🙏❤

This is known as calling their bluff. Narcissists need to blame someone for their own self loathing. Once the victim realizes the narcissist seems to hate everything about them they suggest the only sensible thing to do which is end the relationship. The narcissist can't have that. They need a scapegoat. It's really crazy when you think about it. The narcissist needs a person to fill a specific role as human punching bag because they can't face themselves.

How did he even get you in the first place? What qualities did you fall for?

That backend hell.. Big price to pay

Because all narcissists are following the same pattern that’s why they are so predictable and can easily read them if you look closer!

It's such a great feeling when you can sit back with the popcorn because it means they're out of your life ❤🙏

@@CommonEgo Yes it is. I've been enjoying the lies they're putting out. I also just saw him as I was walking to a friends apartment next to the new supply, and he turned and watched me walk down the hall for a few moments. They are so predictable and they totally underestimate us

@@warriorempathshealingfromn5625 so incredibly predictable!

Ugh, I'd move. Even if it doesn't bother you, why would one want to remain in the same physical proximity as a narc. They're like a black cloud hovering.

@@aquariusrising7019 Yes, I should but my 92 year old father has an apartment here and that is why I am still here. This narc is nefarious and he has many flying monkeys here. I have been harassed, verbally attacked by these individuals and as of Sunday I realized that he has manipulated a mentally disabled woman to use a key for my apartment that went missing about a month and a half ago to come into my apartment when I'm gone. This woman has stole 2 debit cards from me in 2 seperate episodes. My inhaler and some hand cream went missing about a month ago and the inhaler suddenly appeared in plain site on Saturday night. I had my new debit card on Friday evening and on Sunday when I was out I noticed it was gone. This woman has been going in when I am doing laundry and or when I am at my dads or visiting a friend in the building. Locks were changed yesterday, I called the police when I noticed the new card missing again but of course I am not believed by the police but they took the report and suggested I get a order of protection and management has now assured me that I can brake the lease under these circumstances. It certainly is unfair that I need to move again because of this asshole and his flying monkeys but I am looking and tying to figure out what the best answer is for me. I feel violated and they are not using the debit cards they are doing this to play mind games and keep me unbalanced. My father is unwilling to move so even if I move I will have return almost daily to make sure he is ok. These narcs are sick, sick SICK.

The narc thinks with each new relationship that maybe they have met the perfect person. They take a snapshot of us in their mind of that perfect person, and from then on they relate to that perfect snapshot of who they believe us to be. Inevitably the new supply ends up disappointing them, and showing them they are not the perfect person who will love them regardless of their horrible behavior.

@@brendakauffman2222 The comparison to that "snapshot" does happen early and that's when by any standard one is at their best. Not unrealistic, just well groomed, dressed, etc. Still the suggestions start yet I or we do not return the banter. Its impolite and usually and should be a turn off. It may be why they keep a harem. A little bit of every personality and type. I kinda think the serial cerebral narc can reflect somewhat yet the habituality, probably ingrained from childhood of living on a pedestal has done them more harm than good. But I'm sure that's not their opinion, it's always everyone else inadequacies. But, you do get educated in the early clues not to miss again.

I’m so sorry. Check out Rejoice Marriage Ministries or Standers United for another page that’s helped me.

That makes me sad. I hope you are doing better now.

@@amyw4216 much better!

@@BC-dm5bi Glad to hear it!💕

I’m writing this a year later and went through exactly the same thing this year. Social media is his playground and he just married his affair partner. I’ve been learning about NPD for 6 months and I’m finally letting go of the trauma bond. Bottom line: the new supply is with HIM! I know him and he’s moody and an alcoholic with sex/porn addictions. I’d never wish to be in her place. She wanted him so bad,,,,, she won! 🤣

😑☹️

Oh my god

Same here 😄😄🤪✌

Is it bad

Are they still together?

I'm so glad you've made it there. It's a great place to be 🙏❤

Brenda Hoel I was married for 21 years to a narcissist. In less than 3 months had new pawn. In less than 6 months had bought a house together. I am pretty sure he was cheating on me cuz before we split he accused me of cheating. I didn’t put 2 and 2 together until later. But just wanted to comment that my ex and his new pawn are traveling around and going to places I wanted to go but we never did. Now I’m thinking he only held back traveling to hurt me cuz it was what I wanted to do. Now he is trying to hurt me by doing it with his new pawn. Maybe that’s what is happening to you too.

Same here Brenda, after 26 yrs, finally filed for divorce. I did not know this term narcissist until I threw him out. Thank goodness for these videos, now I know and can move forward. Peace

Good job!! Hope you are doing even better now❤

Any update?

They really do. And it's usually not until you're out that you see it for what it is. I'm so glad to hear you're out. It's a great place to be! 🙏❤

@@CommonEgo you're so right about what it's like to look back on what used to bother me. I can't believe I ever believed a fraction of the crap I took at face value. Never again that's for sure!

These are tough lessons, but there's SO much you can learn. Despite it all, I'm thankful for the experience 🙏❤

@@CommonEgo Sometimes I think you have to interact with multiple ones before you truly recognize the red flags cause each narc. really does present differently. My take now is, if someone is treating me in a way that is causing me stress or distress, whether it is intentional, non intentional, because of childhood abuse, or whatever I need to give them a wide birth and allow them to be responsible for healing themselves. Once I see patterns that are causing distress, even from someone who's been a friend for a long time ( they often don't treat tertiary sources really badly, they reserve this for primary and secondary sources), you believe what they are showing you and allow them to be responsible for their own healing. If you happen to be a tertiary source, and then they move you to a primary or secondary source, that is when they begin to mistreat you. Another friend and I see this pattern in two friendships where it all was fairly ok until primary or secondary sources were removed and they moved us into that role.

Any update?

No the narc usually is not done when you are done. I broke off the relationship with the narc "friend". She had made things abundantly clear by upping her behavior because I was calling her to accountability for her behavior. She began the gaslighting in Ernest ( which confirmed in my mind who she was and what she was doing). She lied to someone else committing me to something I told her I hadn't agreed to and thought I'd simply go along with that. When I didn't, she began to play more games, and started taking credit for things I made, and when I called her out publicly, she saw rage. I handed her back something we were doing together ( which she was using to gaslight) and that made her angry. She tried and tried to get me to assist again. She has been hoovering ever since, trying and trying with apologies and gifts to express her well intentions for me, and her well wishes for me. I'm not falling for it.

It's true. It's like a weight off!

Dead right there Robert !!

sounds like she was trying to make you jealous & hurt you. With my ex narc-my pain was his pleasure

They suffer under the radar or to get supply. They boast to prove to the world that they're good enough.

Are they still together now? (Probably not lol)

they dont even give a f about their own kids ... sad thing, mines going through her da da da da phase bc its just easier to say. but its like ahhhh, of course. why cant momma be easier to say. but everything about her is so precious, just her entire existence is stil just awww. baby babble. she switched to lala as i type this tho w/ rasberry bubbles in between ha

Thank you ❤