@@stowlicters8362rich people rarely act like compassionate humans or humans who can change the world, the fact that they can is usually oblivious to them.
lots of caucasian people have this kind of mentality.especially on trumps sides.lazy people who doesn't want to do any hard work but still complain about getting replaced by more skilled workers.
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 Just beacuse Pixar works under Disney dosent mean their one in the same. Its like saying since Marvel movies are owned by Disney its also worked on by Pixar.
It's becoming increasingly difficult to act the adult in this ever growing society of elderly toddlers. They want to promote explosive anger because they are terrified of all the people who know how to focus their anger like welding torches.
One not clearly visible outcome of anger issue is that you can't get better things in life if you can't control your emotions. You will f up your good relationships, you will not be able to take more responsible jobs where you would be required to deal with difficult people. This is a crucial problem for growing people, and what does D do? They say it is ok, it is a strength not a weakness. We live in amazing time where all the worst of humanity is pout on a pedestal like a trophy. Then people are invited to celebrate human shittiness and instead of working on your problems to become a better human being. Disney is evil. They are not far away to do the last thing, announce that good is evil and evil is good. And knowing how many perverts there are in their circles, I do not doubt a lot of them would.
Nowadays acting like a good person is better than being a good person, if your a actually good person you wouldn’t tell people about it and need constant validation
@@Azurethewolf168 Being a good person takes effort. If you can get the dopamine of a good person without the effort, it would almost seem foolish to actually put in the energy to be a one. To these narcissists, genuine people are as fake as could be, as they choose to take the less efficient route to what they falsely perceive as the same reward. They have inoculated themselves from ever knowing what that feeling even is.
Also ummm "water girls" going out w/ ummm "fire guys" because society says it is moral and cool... eventhough the fire guy will at best leave the water girl with a bastard fatherless kid At worst, killed
I heard Tim Allen actually REFUSED to be in Lightyear because he read the script, and straight away phoned his agent and said "I'm not reading this shit!" EDIT: As a few have misinterpreted what I wrote, he refused to read the script and say it as Buzz Lightyear as it was crap.
What would the baby be like, a half water half fire stillborn or just a steam cloud that's constantly screaming in agony as it endlessly consumes itself?
Peter Sohn, the _Korean_ film director behind this movie, said that if they ever had a baby, it be made out of steam. So like Air. Smoky air. At the end, their hypothetical baby was actually supposed to make an appearance, but their baby was cut because it might have been too much. Like the rest of this movie wasn’t too much already.
I understand why some guys do it. White women and Afro American women are the most difficult women to date and endure thus hundreds of thousands of White and Afro American men are flooding into Asia. But the kids they make will obviously have issues plus this dating mass migration isn’t fair of the native Asian male populations that now has to compete with men from all over.
You know, your initial complaining about this fits my impressions of the very first trailer Portraying an immigrant minority as *literally being the most destructive and dangerous force in the world* seems like something a hardcore racist would do. Another example of horse shoe theory being real, I guess.
Making the father racist was the true cherry on top. A story of how fire isnt welcome because everyone is racist just for the fire to be racist themselves. Additionally the writers idea that the fires little neighborhood is a ghetto and not a normal society js racist isnt it? They act like the "fire" people would not be able to create a respectable community between themselves without the other "elements" helping out. That seems incredibly racist to me idk
Not only that, but their "racism is bad" angle goes out of the window with this poor allegory because the fire elements are indeed a danger to the other elements, therefore their fear for the fire girl is based on reality, because she can literally kill everything by just being there.
@SammEater yea that i found stupid as well. Not liking fire people or at least avoiding them seems absolutely reasonsble if they can kill you at any point even on accident or burn down your house. Thats like saying its racist to avoid predators like bears or poisonous animals
@@geox8485considering that you are so keen on defending this movie, I have a bomb for you, Since "elements cannot mix" how do cloud people exist? It's basic science to know that clouds are made from water particles Tbh for me the idea of creating a world of sentient elements is a hella cool premise, but making it out to be a love story sided with a racism allegory is wasting that premise
@@darialomurno05 Well they look like clouds and they seem as if they’re just clouds but in the movie they’re actually just called air and that’s what they are air. They’re not the actual clouds themselves and yeah when you think about it then it starts to sound a little confusing but again it’s a kids movie and it isn’t even relevant to the plot. They’re air not clouds. The racism allegory still works in this movie. As we see in the end the different elements can’t actually hurt eachother atleast not on a serious level so at that point all the fear and prejudice and racism or whatever all comes from nothing except the fire people speaking a different language and doing things differently. But even then I feel like racism isn’t even a big part of the movie. At the end the movie focuses more on romance and I guess emotions. This is probably Pixar’s most romantic movie and my favourite scenes is when the Ember and Wade just spend time together since they genuinely work together and seem real.
2:46 my question in this scene was, if glass can only be made by fire and sand (as we're shown in the movie) and no fire people were in Element City beforehand (as we can see with Ember's dad and mom arriving there), then how did they make the glass buildings? I don't remember the movie ever explaining that, much like not exploring the fact that that's how fire could be incorporated in Element City
The world-building in this movie makes so little sense. Like when Wade is eating the food of the Fire-people, it’s too hot for him to handle. So he pours a little bit of himself in a mug to water down the heat of the food.
the worldbuilding in this movie is basically nonexistent. Peter Sohn wanted only to talk about his korean family's quandaries in NY, simple as that. He never wrote this movie with the idea of crafting a whole world, just sell out the cheapest romcom. And to say it would've taken so little: 1) make the fire people live in the glass ghetto, apparently beautiful but fragile in its core. 2) Wade and the warer people taking a 'protection' to become temporarily ice and stay with Ember for a few precious moments without nothing more than a minor melt. 3) INTERNET! By the ancient gods' sake! how can a movie be so CHILDISH as to present E&W as the ONLY mixed couple in the whole Element City?!?!? Even without internet and the possibility to meet other couples online, at least write a scene where E&W go to the library and learn that yes, other mixed couple existed! Dear LORD, this movie is 'the racism explained to my son', Teletubby-level! 4) Air, the greatest lost occasion: since little children cannot understand the idea of air being impalpable and invisible, you can only show them clouds and tell them "See? AIR!" Peter Sohn needed a co-writer, an expert one...
@@Crusader316 Even better. thei are small happy gales until they lose their temper and become ugly, destructive thing. The story could've gone with an air element enamored of Ember but, seeing her going toward a water (the shame!) he builds up is rage and in the end threates to absorb the whole fire people community and become a firenado! Ember seeing herself in that element's uncontrolled rage, works with the water people to stop the firenado and then realizes she can keep Wade around as her other, calming half...
It really hurts to see how terribly animation is being treated. Infinite possibilities and yet talentless hacks with no imagination keep getting hired. At least Puss in Boots the last wish was great.
A simple suggestion: We want to make him a brave guy. Disney: Is that MASCULINITY?! YOU'RE FIRED, sexist pig! A simple suggestion: This is why I work for Sony.😑😑
A stronk female character that is already perfect? No way! A weak, pathetic male character that is good for nothing? No way! The whole movie is an allegory for critical race theory? No way! Who would've expected that?
Except Wade isn’t weak and leads the relationship multiple times and even calls her out when she turns on him calling her afraid and weak. And she is nowhere near perfect at all lmao and she shows she needs him multiple times because otherwise she explodes with anger… that was literally apart of the plot…
Exactly, these criticisms of Ember being perfect and Wade being weak are simply not true. Wade proves himself to be quite useful and is willing to confront Ember about her issues. It’s a toxic view in itself to say that men are weak losers because they show emotion. Wade demonstrated nicely that being sensitive and caring doesn’t mean you can’t also have strength and bravery
@@Showman_87 Thank you. In my opinion Wade is even stronger and braver than Ember as like he says for most of the movie she hides behind anger and it too scared to say what she wants to say whereas he’s confident to do whatever he wants. And again the whole criticism of saying Ember doesn’t need anybody just isn’t true as she clearly needs Wade and he clearly needs her.
@@geox8485that’s not my biggest problem with the movie and people saying it’s the worst things this year or just assuming it’s bad after things like light year aired and instant assume it’s woke (which has lost it meaning from how many times), people can be in different sue terms and families can form in many different ways. So in short there’s bigger fish to fry.
Remember when Pixar movies were fun and wholesome? Remember Woody and Buzz (the original), Flik, The Incredibles, Wall E and all those other fun characters? Good times 😢
The movie was just a love story not a Romeo and Juliet type of one. In fact the father in that movie was the only one against it and he didn’t even find out until the third act.
True. It is not the early 2000s anymore, CG is no longer impressive, no matter how much Pixar makes those crappy tech demo videos showing a billion polligons on someone's mustache, it is all for nothing with a crappy movie like Elemental. 2D hand draw animation still is the superior form.
We need a balance in the animation industry. 2D and Stop-Motion movies should be made more often and that’s coming from someone that adores 3D animation. That’s why i love Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots 2, Arcane, Klaus and The Bad Guys. They use the best of both worlds (2D and 3D) and proves why 2D should come back alongside with 3D. But at the same time, bringing back 2D won’t matter if the story is not good, because my biggest fear is that the big next 2D movie flops because of bad storytelling.
“That’s right LittLe Timmy! When your pos dad loses his mind cos of something inane and curses you out and breaks shit, it’s your job to figure out the “real” thing he’s trying to say! Isn’t that magical Timmy? Why are you crying Timmy? Timmy?”
@@KingSquirtle999 yo g-dawg, you iz right. They would never make an movie like the incredibles that shows a white family in a positive light again. (in the sequel the dad was a fuk up, the daughter was an ahole.)
There are many reasons why I don't like this movie: - First of all, the racism allegory doesn't work. Usually when people say ''You don't mix.'' they mean that because of your different personalities, cultures, political views, religions, etc., you won't make a good couple because you'll argue all the time. It would've been much more interesting if they tackled those topics. Maybe they would come to the conclusion they are good people but too different to make it work. - The whole world-building doesn't work. Remember how in Zootopia the city was built to accommodate all animals and their needs? Well, in Element City there's a water rail tracks that spill water just over Fire Town. Why? The explanation is supposed to be that because Water people were first and Fire people were last the city isn't for the latter. But most Elements aren't shown being mean to each other on purpose. Why would the city build it like that? Why would the Fire people move to a place that is so dangerous for them? If Water people founded Element City it means they created it with the idea in mind to bring other elements together, so why would they be so careless with the city design? They even lampshade the problem with Wade asking ''Why do they even have these?'' in regards to fences that are unable to stop 3 out of 4 Elemental races. - The whole elements can not mix mantra doesn't work because all other elements mix just fine. The fire is the odd one out. Also, Ember says ''Elements don't mix.'' to a CHILD who is asking her out. Really? Don't you think that the fact that he's a kid and you're an adult is more important? - The whole subplot with finding the leak is so stupid and contrived. Let the one guy and an unauthorized random person just look for it. And, when they eventually find it the idea that it wasn't noticed before is pure nonsense. - The whole movie tries way too hard to make you cry. Especially the crying game and Wade's death fake-out. - ''We changed each other chemistry.'' Except throughout the whole movie before and after Ember is constantly touching things that should catch fire but don't. Unless he means they can only touch each other through the power of love which is the laziest and cheesiest explanation ever but really? They're the first fire and water couple ever, or at least the ones who figured out they could touch each other with no problem. - Also, I hate Wade. Can movies stop showing that being in tune with your emotions means that you're an emotional wreck who makes emotional decisions without thinking about consequences and showing them as a good thing? So many of the movie's conflicts would've been over if Wade would just shut the fuck up and thought before making a scene that makes Ember angry.
Well, atleast Ember is more likeable than Rey from Star Wars, and Helena Shaw from that Indie 5 movie, also, Ember being this emotionally angry is kinda part of her personality as a Fire People, so yeah, she is not a Mary Sue, but still, she is not my favorite female character as that title goes to whatever iconic female character before mid 2010s, though atleast she is better than Rey though
@@geox8485 when I watch it, Ember doesn't seem to have any form of similarities with those perfect female characters like Rey, and Wade being crying kinda make sense for him being a water guy
@@curious5887 Yeah I don’t even know what the guys on about, Firstly a dumb sentimental guy paired with a more serious women has been a thing since the Simpsons and you could probably go back even further and isn’t even really a bad thing on its own. Secondly, Wade never relies on Ember and really he takes control of the relationship multiple times pushing her to do what she wants and follow her dreams and even calls her out and calls her afraid when she turns on him. And like you say Ember isn’t portrayed as “perfect” at all neither is she portrayed as someone who doesn’t need a man. Actually it would be the opposite since in the beginning she has anger issues and explodes with anger but after her date with Wade there’s literally a scene of her getting angry again before thinking about him and calming down. The movie shows both people need eachother and help eachother it’s nothing like how this guy portrays it to be.
Wait, so... what happened to the Bodega? The father is too old to run the store, and Ember doesn't want it anymore. Maybe turning the gas on isn't a bad idea...
I just love how disney predicted the failure of this film. It shined through from the flat marketing to the plans to take it out of cinemas after weeks of viewing.
Imagine you live in a city with a community that only causes trouble, and you can't say anything about it for fear of being reprimanded by people blind to the obvious social problems... Wouldn't that be a sight...
The fire community didn’t cause any trouble tho and the movie didn’t even focus on any social problems just personal problems between the main characters. They don’t try to solve racism in the movie they just solve their own problems. And there’s no one trying to reprimand the fire people
Correction: Turning Red was first, released on Disney Plus. Then Lightyear, and then Strange World, which was made in house by Walt Disney Animation Studios.
I was also wondering: given that Wade could recover from complete evaporation, exactly HOW THE HECK does an elemental die?? They have no organs, nothing that can get old, and they can recover from dispersion (see the scene of Ember's father with the cloud). So...what's the point of Wade cheering for the athlete in the stadium "Oh, he lost a parent, let's root guys!", if water can't die at all?
It just seems that none of the elements can kill eachother. I can’t imagine Water, Earth or Air being able to kill eachother in the first place and with Fire they were new to the town and everyone already decided to not mix the elements out of fear hence why before Ember and Wade touch they have no idea what will happen but it turns out they don’t kill eachother. I don’t think they can even if they tried.
@@geox8485 It would make sense, I like it... But it would be also totally a fact of life at Element City. If Elements can't possibly destroy each other, then there is no problem with interaction. All the whining of Ember makes no sense altogether -or it would, had SHE lived in an underground shelter or had never set foot in Element City.
@@valeriopastore7310 You forget that Embers parents seem to be the first fire people to move into fire town or even the entire city. And considering the fact that the water people were surprised Ember could speak English it makes sense to believe they are the first ever fire people to enter the city and obviously the other elements wouldn’t know if they were dangerous or not so just decided to not take the risk and not mix. And Ember whines because she doesn’t seem to know either. Ember and Wade seem to be the first Fire and Water people to touch and nothing bad happened so I assume that means all fire people and water people can touch, they just didn’t know beforehand.
@@geox8485 Now THAT would make for an excellent point... But you forgot that by the time the events of the movie are taking place, the fire community is well established, and that obviously took time. The racism factor must then have played a much more severe weight in the movie's background, for fire people being excluded from everyday living to the point of negating any possible kind of contact, be it physical or cultural. So yes, I can accept your reasoning if we were talking about a deeply racist society and a complete cultural and physical segregation of fire people. Not about love, but about truth being hidden in plain sight all this time.
@@valeriopastore7310 Yeah that would make sense. In the movie Ember literally says she had never left fire town and her first time ever leaving was when she met Wade and chased after him. If Ember never left fire town and spent her entire life there up until that point it’s safe to assume so did every other fire person hence why no Fire or Water person had touched before. And yeah the society is definitely racist and segregated. As we see with the movie when Ember and her father wanted to see the flower fire people were not allowed inside so it’s also safe to assume fire people are restricted from visiting a lot of places in the city. Which is probably what would make them want to stay in fire town even more.
@@silashurd3597 it isn’t the same people in charge of every decision made. Not hiring him probably wasn’t a demand from super high up, just some of the people in charge of casting were a little too woke, and the ones for that show aren’t.
It was never a Romeo and Juliet story to begin with, since when the hell did Ember’s and Wade’s family have a generation long feud? Other citizens of Element City are just rude to the Fire People because of how hazardous they are.
One detail among this pile of garbage: Wade happily walking among a thick crowd of supposedly distrustful if not openly hostile to water people. I mean, man, the raw heat generated by that crowd shoiuld make him evaporate before he even reached the stage!
The whole anger thing seems less like the writers trying to make anger ok, but the reason FOR anger being ok, much like inside out explaining why Sadness is important in telling you what you need. It could’ve been explained better.
Tbh Ember is not portrayed as perfect at all. She's completely detached from her own feelings and wishes and doesn't even consider herself important enough to have her own dreams. She puts her father and his shop before anything else and therefore neglecting herself. Her anger issues are not portrayed as a good thing either. Her anger issues originated from her bottled up repressed feelings regarding her future. So no, she is definitely NOT portrayed as perfect. Wade is way too sentimental to the point where is pretty annoying, but he isn't weak either. He's the only one who confronts Ember and her temper and challenges Ember's status quo. Yeah, he's portrayed as overly sentimental, but it seems like all water people are like that. Saying that Wade is "weak" and "pathetic" because he cries a lot is part of the reason why animation studios are portraying male characters as more sensitive to begin with, because that's a really toxic stereotype: men can be sensible and that doesnt mean they are weak or pathetic. I don't have a problem with the love story, to me, the main issue is that the movie doesn't provide a single good reason for the elements to not be segregated. Fire people are constantly on the edge of dying or setting everything on fire, evaporating water people or burning earth people. The analogy doesnt work at all. That's honestly my main complain, also, the world building was kinda disappointing. And the plot itself was pretty weak. In other words, it was a cute love story, but the racism analogy didn't work at all and the story felt too simple at times. Wouldn't say it was a disaster, it's way better than Lightyear and Strangeworld. A 7/10 for me, the animation was absolutely gorgeous, and it was the first Pixar movie about an adult romance, which I think it's pretty cool. People are way too harsh on this movie, lol.
Zootopia did basically the same concept, but there was an actual PLOT moving the ACTION. And it wasn't that on the nose, you could take it however you want, there's no human parallels like here.
Also, notice how at the end, instead of getting married, they just go travelling the world? Just like the little mermaid remake. "Coincidence? I think not."
Yeah there was so much plot holes that writers left lol. I was wondering why the city was built by glass when fire elementals are the only ones who can make glass lol. Also Wade was really annoying charactar that pissed me off and i didn't like the fact that he was such a loser that always cries
As a Deadpool fan, I am appalled that he has the same name. The editor in my head has been stitching in Wade Wilson to preserve my sanity. The explosions make much more sense, there is less crying, and every time the 'woe is me' starts, someone gets slapped in the face.
So she leaves her aging father and mother to run the business until they can no longer. Letting their livelihood/home close down? Disney really hates the idea of a traditional family dynamic, don’t they?
Didn’t you watch the movie? The whole entire plot was that she would rather focus on bigger jobs and work than just running a shop. There’s nothing wrong with that. Also the shop doesn’t close down the father just employs a random fire guy what do you mean
No she didn't, she decided to chase her own dreams and aspirations and her dad retired, two other fire people of their trust are running the shop at the end. Didn't you watch the movie?
I'm glad I follow so many reviewers on RU-vid. You and others have saved me so much from seeing too many sub-part or downright garbage movies. Truly, I thank you!
@@Showman_87Yeah, from the trailers and reviews I thought Elemental was going to be bad but after watching it for yourself you realise it’s actually a quality movie.
@@geox8485 Yes it was very surprising, the trailers didn't grab me either but I'm glad I gave it a chance. It had pretty much everything I want in a Disney/Pixar movie :D
I suggest watching the movie yourself to form your own opinions, rather than just blindly following others and blindly repeating their opinions as if they were your own.
It's funny, but Elemental's story probably would have been done better as a live action movie, perhaps a period piece set in 1920's New York. The animation is great, but the city was a nightmare. The fire people are dangerous? The city looks to be made to kill the fire people. From trains drenching the sidewalk as they travel to the overflow sewers funneling right into the fire ghetto. And Wade's Mom designed it that way... Marketing dropped the ball. I watched the sneak peak trailer with Ember on the train. It felt like it was made for a different movie.
The morale of the story is that mass immigration has horrific consequences that destroy a nation from within. And these policies are all lobbied by a certain tribe.
I think that Elemental could work as a movie or at least a short movie because this movie had such untapped potential. If I am going to write the movie, I would made this story about the immigration of the fire people to element city, and I would made the main characters both of Ember's parents and their struggles of trying survive in the big city, and I make them less then they were in the movie and they kinda understand of why the elements act somewhat prejudice towards them and to the other fire people, at the end both Ronnie and Shila managed help both them and the fire community to find jobs and they finally managed to fit with the other elements by becoming glassmiths or sustaining the energy and fire people can be friends with the other elements and could a flash forward of both Ronnie and Shila living happily in their young Ember as a kid and they are happy to see their daughter who just made friends with a young and shy Wade.
To be clear, I hate all of them, and the woke Disney overlords had a hand in all of them as well, but the order was Turning Red, Lightyear, Strange World, and Strange World was Walt Disney Feature Animation, not Pixar.
I love how this movie, ironically enough, suggests that black people set everything they touch on fire. I thought Disney was against racial stereotypes.
12:30 It would've been better if a heavy storm broke the dam instead. As it was the reason why Ember's parents left their homeland in the first place. Also, seeing Ember looking out at a heavy rain in the night would complement her mood.
@@hunterolaughlin But those films weren't released after each other consecutively. Plus , Coco and Inside out are good but I can think of much better films than them.
Angry british man, can you please reap apart Turning Red in your video, please? I have my personal vendeta on this piece of pedobear media, so I would love to see how you bring this abomination crumbling to the ground.
Zootopia was the better way to portray race relations. Theres nuance and gray areas and no side is fully right or wrong. Theres even a prey and predator villain. Its a very underrated movie
@@damonlam9145 yeah but no one talks about it! I know it did well but for whatever reason it's not a classic like it should be. I loved how they switched villains mid movie. Probably the last good disney movie that came out. (Including mcu but excluding infinity war and end game and guardians if you count those)
7:12 Same. I want some ruthless editors to come in and keep in check. Even great animes NEEDED editors to give critic and knock down ideas. It’s necessary to get a 3rd opinion or you get creative ideas like “element city”.
Everything you say in your reviews is saldy and hilariously true. there are far too many movies like this one that both try hard and not hard enough to place a specific message. These talentless directors are tragically deaf and blind to their failures, so they continue on and on... Reaper, I had a hard day of work, but this review gave me a good smile on my face. Keep it up!
Zootopia deals with racism and the story of a female rabbit striving to improve the world. Elemental attempts to be like Zootopia but lacks proper storytelling and character development.
Hold up, Pixar didn't even make Strange World, that was a Disney Animations product. Also, Pixar made Soul and Luca just a few years ago, both of which were great. So while Lightyear and Turning Red are awful, I wouldn't exactly call two movies a "losing streak". Also, Romeo and Juliet story implies it's about two people who are in love but their families are both against the relationship, but Wade's family was all in favour of it. The story is focused on Ember so there's too little plot? Ember is the protagonist of the movie, which is about her trying to figure out whether she should stick with her family or strike out on her own, and how she doesn't want to disappoint her father, who built a new life for his new family at the cost of losing his own. All the while she's trying to make a relationship that was "never meant to be" work. I'd say that's quite a lot of plot, that was executed pretty well too. The immigration aspect, while a pretty bad allegory, is certainly not just padding. Sure, there's probably some parts added for Hollywood brownie points, but it also adds to Ember's character, and explains why her and her family's culture is so different from the local one, aside from being a different element. As for the racism, they also portray Ember's father as being racist, if not even more so than everyone else. It's never something that's portrayed as being exclusively done by the other elementals. In fact, most of the other elementals are pretty friendly and accepting towards Ember, as well as her and Wade's relationship. The plot-point about her using her skills for working with glass is never mentioned? It's the main plot-point that drives her to admit she does not want to take over the family business, and want to have a different life. It's a crucial plot-point, that leads to the movie ending with her moving away to take up the internship Wade's mother set up for her. How do you miss that? How can you be so wrong so efficiently, in such a short amount of time? I'm only three minutes into this video, and it already feels like you haven't even actually watched this movie, and just making this review based on hearsay. There are plenty more you've gotten wrong further down, but I think I'm gonna stop there. Man, I enjoy your commentary on Open Bar, but god damn, this review is bad.
Reaper is what Drinker wishes he was - he got too big and has to justify his views. Reaper can open up a review with 'it's fucking shit', and call a character a cunt. absolute 🔥
I agree with most of this - only issue I have is, you can cry in front of women lol - no one likes emotionally uncontrolled people - so just be emotionally aware but you can indeed cry in front of women and they will still love you if they already do. 😂
Okay, but his point was clearly about how Wade just cries and cries and cries and cries. Male tears are fine, when earned, but this dude is literally a baby.
You know what I'm always surprised about with sh*t movies in general. Behind the scenes, people who are recording lines, animators, producers, the movie company. All watched this film and thought... wow this is a great movie 😃
My suggestion for the story would have been that Ember's parents were invited with open arms by naive tree people(Hippie) into their house, since they wanted to be open to all new elements, even ones they didn't know about. Of which the parents happened to start a big fire, which led to the Water people having to put out the fire. with the result that the Tree people became skeptical of the fire people as more and more Fire arose due of the same thing happend over and over. Ending with the creation of the Water Firefighters and the fire people getting there own area to live after a protracted conflict between water,fire and Earth/Tree. Then just sprinkle in the story of doesnt wanna follow in your parents Fotsteps... Which leads us to Wade encountering Ember during a fire, which happened to start due to an accident caused by Ember, Because Ember wanted to create Art to get out frustration after similar debate with her parents about" Follow in your parents' Footsteps"
What would be the point of that? Then the movie actively would be making fire people a issue to live around and would justify them not seeing the flower which is the opposite of what they’re trying to do and would be a horrible message
@@geox8485 To give the other elements a clear reason why they don't want anything to do with the fire people as they have a history around them. But also give the fire people a proper reason why they dont wanna be around the other elements...Aka they tried diversity with zero knowledge about each other Differences. Which would have been better than the story we got..Aka everyone is racist (Especially against the fire people) in a society that advocates diversity.
@@zebare726 Yeah but there’s no valid reason for racism. Giving them a valid reason just kinda messes up the message. I do get what you mean tho, the fact no water or fire people have touched ever until Ember and Wade is weird and from the start the water people seemed too scared of fire
@@zebare726 But that’s kinda how racism works in the real word. There’s no real reason for being racist beside just not liking them for looking and acting different
I just realized how racist disney's depiction of ember's parents first giving their names to the immigration officer is. They understand whatever language they speak in element city and yet act stupidly oblivious to how spelling works? And in the case they didn't know how to spell in the language, they wouldn't be stupid enough to not anticipate that they'd need a form of their name for the documents and would've prepared anyway or could've just asked for aid in a "romanized" spelling like wtf was the awful royalty free sound effect mashup. Literally thought it was edited in by someone else
While I have been your watcher since the release of that terrible Netflix "Documentary" about Cleopatra, but this one, you kinda almost lost my respect on this one, when I watch this movie, Ember is not like those unlikeable and always perfect female characters like Rey from Star Wars, as she has an actual flaw of anger issues, and Wade is not a weak crying man, when Ember turned on him, Wade reaction is not crying, but straight shock with a bit of anger there, which was pay off by Ember cry when Wade still won't give up his love for Ember, and Wade reasoning for crying is because he missed his father, and as for Ashfa being hateful towards other elements, you have to remember that his wife was almost put out by that one water guy, which I suspect, is Wade father, because he kinda looks like Wade in a lot of way, and to top it all off, this is a personal story of the director, I don't care if the story followed the common structure of generic storyline, but if it's entertaining, and still has passion for it, then it's worth it, I don't treat Elemental as masterpiece like Across of the Spider-Verse, or in Pixar context, as The Incredibles and Cars, but it is a genuine movies, I feel like this movie is the only one with a genuine love story of today movies, not here to diss you for having an opinion of your own, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize you though
This story is first draft material compared to early Pixar I can see something here but in the end, all the creativity and charm is ruined by it being overshadowed by the same tireless minds that work in these films Wall e was both a romance and environment all film but the charm and story and creativity was given priority
1:12 Yeah reaper I wouldn’t exactly call meeting the love of your life and realizing just how much you love them to the point of dying for them as not growing
What I want toknow is...If much of Element City is built from glass...How did they make it without Fire Elementals? Since as the movie shows, you get glass by using FIRE.
@@PlanetZoidstar Do you think people touch fire with their bare hands when making glass? They will use it exactly the same way we use it why are you trying to make it more complicated
@@PlanetZoidstar Besides fire people could still make the Glass anyway, Ember gets accepted into a glass making job away from the city and that’s where they both leave on the boat in the end. The place they go to might have lots of fire people who make the glass and sell it to elemental city. There’s 100s of valid ways this could work just put 2 and 2 together
That fire is harmful to the other species is also one of the many reasons that Zootopia is a terrible movie (shame it made so much money). Of course the bunny should be afraid of a fox, she's a bunny and he's a fox! Foxes eat rabbits. You can't muddle your metaphors and allegories like that and not expect your message to suffer.
