Every Time Vince McMahon Screwed Over The UFC 

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It was in 2000 actually. Seven years after the first UFC event.

Shane was actually very much ahead of his time. Had also so many good ideas and visions for the company back then (like about ecw). But also made his mistakes too.

​@@gregorsamsa2271 Unlike the majority, I was one of the few who loved Shane's "Raw Underground" segment. He has always been the one I hoped would take over some part of WWE even if his idea to win the royal rumble a few years ago was a schizophrenic idea.

@hout13 Yep, that one truly broke his neck. I just wonder what he was actually thinking there? I'm wondered if he'll make ever a comeback. But it will be tough, since the WWE is not in the hands of the McMahon's anymore. For the first time.

almost positive WWE owns the UFC now

Wdfdym? Dana is so so vanilla compared to vince

@@gagagugu1018 Is he though? I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana has had people killed 😂

@@gagagugu1018 That's character Vince. IRL Dana is a better businessman. The UFC is bigger than WWE.

@@heavyartillery-qm5hu ofc i know that dude. That's why they aren't brothers. They are very different. Dana is a good man and vince is not. Like the dark counterpart of dana

​​@@heavyartillery-qm5huVince is absolutely the better businessman, don't kid yourself. Under his dad, the WWWF was the THIRD biggest wrestling brand in the US. Vince Jr stole the biggest wrestling star in the world at the time in Hulk Hogan, bought out all the other territories and made the first and only ever wrestling monopoly, which lasted for over 3 decades, and at its peak, WWF was about the hottest thing ON THE PLANET. He's an irredeemable scumbag of a human being but he was a phenomenal businessman

Probably got offered a bag if he could make McNuggets show

It’s gonna happen at WM

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@@jabrone.destoroyahWhy? Does everything have to be cynical boring edge material for you

@@hsthatzo8063It wasn't even good. If Chandler actually gave a good speech, the crowd would have reacted differently

When he left I started to notice that he wasn't really a good commentator. But you're right, the way UFC did this man was dirty. Not even a single acknowledgement about him leaving during his last UFC broadcast

also jim Ross who Vince screwed

They should have fired him much much earlier. He was a bumbling idiot who had no idea what he was talking about. All he had was a few stupid catchphrases. He should be glad he pulled off the gimmick as long as he did.

I feel like that kinda who Dana is as a person...very little loyalty

​@@LongDongJohnson0705 Dana has a ton of loyalty which is how he keeps high profile figures around him.

Meh that had it coming 🤷

McCain was married to the heir of Ann Heiser Busch which did a lot of promo on boxing and he didn't wanna pass legislation that might get in the way of that Busch money. That's how I understood it 🤷🏻‍♂️

Was gonna write exactly that He was a warmonger, he didnt hated violence, but the ufc was in the way of their family stock in bud wiesser 😂😂😂​@@louisvelazquez29

McCain is a warmonger the fact he was bashing the ufc for being violent was just virtue signaling.

​@@louisvelazquez29that's a much much more likely explanation. Politics

Imagine if he was black, the outrage would be insane ... Don't get mad..just think about it ...

Why did he even get kicked out? I really doubt it was over some damn Twitter comments.

​@@bipolarkeyboardTold Ariel Helwani about Brock Lesnar's UFC 200 comeback

Dang. Was this ever really confirmed though? That would throw all he had done out the window ​@hanzo7616

@@hanzo7616 well knowing that especially after watching this video about Dana vs Vince, yeah I can see how Dana would hate him for that.

Lies again? Secret Admirer USD SGD

I think you mean the other way around

Vince would be the one down on the ground

Haha yeah, Vince's plan was completely contingent on him winning the second fight with Anderson and becoming champ.

Sonnen would’ve fit right in at wwe. Very entertaining guy and for the most part he doesn’t say curse words or anything. He’s just naturally funny. I think they should still offer him a contract even if it’s as a preshow guy or Commentator.

@@The_Bigot he's Kurt angle with hair, so yea I agree lol.

That guy representing the 69th district is just something else

Crazy we are already approaching 10 years on that happening.

@@howamidriving27you can't make that shit up 😂😂

It’s definitely weird seeing them cooperate

Same

So far..?

It's weird to me that Vince considered the UFC a threat because I've long enjoyed both. If I want to see real "pro wrestling" I watch the UFC. The WWE's product is built more on storytelling in and out of the ring so even if it's "fake" it can still more than hold my attention.

I agree on their lineage, but I feel like as kayfabe has gone away and the embracing of the 'sports entertainment' slogan has come around in the several decades since, those old shoot days are almost entirely gone and it's pretty solidified. The entertainment facet is much more defined in WWE, UFC is less bloodsport and now actual sport. Feels like two totally separate lanes. But that's me speaking from my perspective as someone who really enjoys the nostalgia of the Attitude era and feeling like the modern stuff pretty distinctly isn't for me. (Nothing against WWE, I don't enjoy action movies much either) I know a lot of older fans feel the same way.

I would agree with the first point if you're talking about Japanese MMA and Pro Wrestling(a whole) being one linage since Lot of Famous MMA legends has came out of the Wrestling dojos more specifically NJPW Dojo

MMA as we know it wouldn't be possible if not for the original Tiger Mask and the creation of Shooto.

​@@brandonselitetv1436Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki.

Me too, dude. 100%. I remember hearing about his brother Frank back then and it blowing my mind Frank was considered better (beating Tito and all.)

@@MMAOnPoint I remember watching the original UFC on the "black box" and then seeing Ken show up in the WWF and I was like "I KNOW THAT GUY!!!"

@MMAOnPoint haha did you just see Rey Mysterio Jr on the Mexico Fight Night?

Yes haha! That was really cool to see!@@BranDamBlagg

Plus Dan "The Beast" Severn

He is a fossil

It was weird period when it was still called "no holds barred" where lots of publications would have a journalist that covered mma and pro wrestling.

That happened to me. I used to watch WWE as a kid and had toy wrestlers. But then in highschool I got interested in MMA with Conor and Aldo

WWE has been an up n down rollercoaster (been a fan since 2007), I got into UFC in 2016 and 2017 I stopped watching WWE full time and became a more casual fan of the product, 2018 I somewhat got back into WWE and was watching UFC a lot as well, 2019 WWE became very unwatchable again and UFC was still getting better, 2019-mid 2022 WWE been sooo damn unwatchable I just only watch the Royal Rumbles and get lost cuz I don't recognize most of the participants, while 2020-2022 I hit my peak fandom for UFC even went to a PPV in Vegas in '22, but in mid 2022 Vince stepped down and WWE became watchable again I even went to WrestleMania last year... WWE has really got a Renaissance now it's been really good, now my fandom for UFC feels kinda like a casual's but I still enjoy it, in the end of the day I'm a fan of both it's just WWE gets more downs than UFC does

WWE is bigger then it ever was yes

What do you mean? 😆

@@MMAOnPoint If not a cupid stunt then certainly a pucking fervert, I'd imagine...

@jabrone.destoroyah well, there's a lot of money on the line for a lot of parties involved in something like that. State, County, lawyers, hell you name it... As the saying goes, the show must go on. For instance, The isle of man Road race has multiple people die every year there. But the races just keep going.

Thanks, dude! Sincerely appreciate you taking the time to say that. Had a blast putting it together! 👊

More of these episodes or series about ufc history should be done!

Thanks, William! Really fascinating topic from my own perspective. Great to hear others feel the same!

Definitely not though

​Yeah he should hear or look up the nestle and pepsi water beef and baby formula that got 1.5 million infants dying ​@@phobosex7504

Ever heard of F1?

Lol not even close

Pepsi and Coke? Adidas and Puma? GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK?

Vince was already a billionaire. Dana might have been worth a couple of million and his business was bleeding money. Of course he was gonna walk on eggshells, he didn’t have the resources to back him up.

Lmao espically White refering to him as a competitive maniac 💀

I have no idea why Dana didn’t agree to that fight. Vince would have had no chance.

Now Dana is the king now that’s life just wait patiently for your moves to play out.

@@Volatile-Tortoise Probably because Vince would not want to get in USADA testing pool :P

I THREW IT ON THE GROOOOOUUUUUND

You want to see Tommy Lee jones shit on people?

Nah Greatest Showman 2 WWE Boogaloo

Is that suppose to be a joke ? That man is losing his memory smh

@@da_1nvad3r67who is?

Play him in a documentary? I assume you mean a biopic?

Imagine if Goldberg was a minority, imagine the backlash? But yeah ...white privilege

Not without Vince.

Thanks, Michael! Super appreciate it!

Makes mickey kicking his ass so badly in the octagon so much sweeter

😂 be honest, you are vaacinated with a booster ... Aren't ya ?

@@TVee-nu2gb and what would that even have to do with anything at all concerning Vince and him (literally) shitting on some girl?

@@TVee-nu2gb boy you dumb as hell with this

@@TVee-nu2gb Don't start acting like the communist libs dude. Sometimes accusations are true, you can't fall into a 1 track mind then you're just a hypocrite. Just as bad as the booster people. Vince would sell you and your family out so illegals can move into your house.

Actual bot behaviour ​@@TVee-nu2gb

Crazy thing is Jared from Subway was once in WWE as well. They all forming an offender alliance 😂

The only wrestling channel worth watching ...well Otrs is the goat when he uploads .. But yeah everyone is a propagandist with a highschool mentality...

As a near-exclusive Attitude era fan, that dude's channel is perfect for me. 😆

Yeah I didn't really touch on Paul Heyman's perspective and definitely could have. Of course, did mention Vince had the ability to shoot them down on Spike during the NBC section. Interesting how Heyman's perspective switched much sooner than Vince towards seeing them as a parallel instead of a threat.

A slogan above my desk. 😆

Who knew it would lead to breaking the streak? Lol

When I first heard it, I thought him saying "you wanna go?" was in regards to leaving the arena and having a beer or something.

Bro, Brock was suffering from multiple internal health conditions so Vince sent Undertaker to tease Brock to come back to WWE. He came to WWE a year later, with a condition that Brock would receive full time payment for working part time. You know the rest.

UFC is fine. WWE is not

WWE is trying it's best, they kinda are trying to emulate UFC a bit (with all the press conferences, which is pretty cool). They're doing better now compared to a few years ago, but it still won't change the outcome. The signs of the times have changed, even Vince couldn't change that. Finally, he lost this one. And even better to see, that he fucked off for good, for all the awful things he did behind the scenes. Dude might be a “genius”, but an absolute scumbag as a human being. Always was! Also destroyed pro wrestling by killing the territories, and making it a monopoly. No wonder this industry sucks today in general, since besides WWE there's nothing interesting to watch.

​@@gregorsamsa2271yeah it has nothing to do with wokeness... It's not like Hollywood is dead for the same reason kid ... Nah it's just Vince man ...just Vince ... 😂😂😂😂

@@TVee-nu2gb Wokeness? Seriously? That's childish. Ironic, how you call me the kid here 🙄

@@gregorsamsa2271 don't engage in the conversation you might lose, that's what you were trained like a circus animals to do ...great job Also I love how you don't even try and challenge my Hollywood comment ? Why not ? Wokeness isn't real ... You got nothing to hide ... So be a man and engage ...stop running away

I personally don't watch the newer stuff. Really just an old school Attitude era fan, but I also recognize WWE is doing really well. I don't like half the movies out there either, but doesn't mean everyone else has to dislike it too. I'm totally cool with it.

It'd weird because I think there is at least some overlap in the audiences but watching one has never made me dislike the other. MMA is basically pro wrestling if the in-ring action was "real" but actual pro wrestling is more about the story (in ring and out) than the "fight" itself.

Vince is also known for the statement "everything is competition". I think I lean towards the idea that the sport was on its deathbed when the UFC signed with Spike. Vince just thought it would fail. So he started to see it as competition once it found success.

​@@MMAOnPoint i dont think the sport was on its deathbed since PrideFC was on Top and that was more in line with Vince is trying to put: A Spectacle

I always thought it was funny that with Brawl for All, the WWE tried to script it so they could get the guy they wanted to win to win.For instance,Steve Blackman had legit martial arts skills and was easily the best kicker of the bunch.He said before his fight that a WWF official came to him in the dressing room and told him that no kicks were allowed.Many of the wrestlers did not know all the rules and the WWF would change them week to week.The whole thing was a disaster right up to Bart Gunn getting KTFO by Butterbean at Wrestlemania!

Brock’s always been Vince’s little good boy lmao

Cause they took a shit on the same women chest

And if the stories are true he could get a indictment from the Fed for attempted $ex trafficking or prostitution with what happened with Janel Grant.

If the stories are true he could be indicted by the FEDS for attempted $ex trafficking or prostitution for what happened with Janel Grant.

Tbf, not sure it would have been a great fit. 😆 Vince would have been a terrible boss and considering what he did to JR on multiple occasions... might have gotten let go in a bad way there too.

But also correct

Yeah. That’s a weird look he had out of nowhere

@@oldironsides4107 especially considering for years Vince HATED facial hair. Jim Cornette said when he'd ride in a limo with Vince, he'd shave along the drive, almost attacking his face with the razor. When the pictures first surfaced of Vince with the 'stash, a lot of fans thought is was a doctored pic.

Who is that?

@@paulkendrick4153 Google Pink Flamingos director

Aww, simp

Appreciate you dude! Popping my joints thinking about your legendary vids. 😆

How?

@@hakr1298JS notoriously held fighters back when they didn’t comply w what he wanted or tried to negotiate. Would freeze fighters out leaving them sat there for ages without a contract or offer them fights way below their ranking knowing they’d sit out. He was a spiteful and malicious little man by MANY accounts. There’s a reason you hear a lot of fighters big up Hunter, you never heard them mention Joe.

I think he participated in some ruthless business tactics for sure. I think it helped em in a ton of ways from a sadly unethical strategy. I think more of the harm he's done to the UFC is coming forward in the Anti-Trust case. At the time though, I think it absolutely helped them.

Goldberg was terrible

Legendary moment in gaming. 😆

I definitely watch a fair few of them that cover the Attitude Era stuff. I would be interested in their perspective as well.

And yet WWE is still more entertaining at times 😂

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